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I Know 孤独のせい said:
I personally don't really like the earlier records. As far as Sigh is concerned Gallows Gallery it not only their best album but also one of the best Heavy Metal records in general.
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I briefly checked it out but Sigh's discography usually takes a while to grow on me. The record I recommended took about eight months to "click". Sounds good, though; I like the more prominent snare and the organ is a welcome addition. Why don't you like their earlier stuff? I suppose there's something impulsive or, dare I say, haphazard about the sampling and instrument use during some instances in Hail Horror Hail; there's definitely a "throwing all the shit we have at the wall" vibe in some sections that would understandably put some people off.
 
Sirfaggot said:
Why don't you like their earlier stuff? I suppose there's something impulsive or, dare I say, haphazard about the sampling and instrument use during some instances in Hail Horror Hail; there's definitely a "throwing all the shit we have at the wall" vibe in some sections that would understandably put some people off.
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The "art" of just throwing random shit together and see if it works didn't really come together to form a coherent mess until Gallows Gallery. That's were the songwriting and all the random instrumentation not only started to work on a per-song basis but also for the entire album. The band in general for me tends to whiplash constantly, and you never know if the album will turn out good or just as an incoherent mess. I think the issue with Sigh is less just outright bad music but more often than not they just can't trim all the unnecessary fat so their music works.
I think they have four albums were they were able to contain their madness just enough to record some great music. Everything else mostly just stumbles under its own weight.
 
Dan of Steel said:
Youtube has sent me down a 90s death metal rabbit hole once again:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xcn1X3IFR-8https://youtube.com/watch?v=NmSoK_9lupshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=zSDjR4PuNfUhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=mbq9igB4QVchttps://youtube.com/watch?v=w8lGSdZMA3Ehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=3TP_r9OnMl0https://youtube.com/watch?v=l0_PILa5PfYhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=8wLFqTUy6pcinject this shit directly into my veins bro
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The LordStormcrow channel has to be one of the most important uploaders on old Youtube. The algorithm is great at helping dig up deep cuts, but it was this guy who uploaded so many of them in the first place.

Some of those uploads you listed are iconic to me as a Youtube metal sperg, these ones too:

 
Man vs persistent rats said:
The LordStormcrow channel has to be one of the most important uploaders on old Youtube. The algorithm is great at helping dig up deep cuts, but it was this guy who uploaded so many of them in the first place.
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Yeah I remember 15+ years ago before channels like that if you wanted to find obscure bands that had only released like one in the 90s and that was it, you either had to find blogspots with Mediafire/MegaUpload links, or torrents of some kind like Soulseek. I preferred the blogspots because the good ones would usually have the album/demo art and a little bit about the band to get you interested.
That’s how I found Catacomb and Immortalis and a bunch of others but thankfully because of the amount of people that use YT, some bands can blow up in the algo which is great. That Catacomb upload having half a million views is nuts. It’s nice to see old bands get recognition like that especially since I’ve been on a big death/doom kick lately:
 
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Dan of Steel said:
Yeah I remember 15+ years ago before channels like that if you wanted to find obscure bands that had only released like one in the 90s and that was it, you either had to find blogspots with Mediafire/MegaUpload links, or torrents of some kind like Soulseek. I preferred the blogspots because the good ones would usually have the album/demo art and a little bit about the band to get you interested.
That’s how I found Catacomb and Immortalis and a bunch of others but thankfully because of the amount of people that use YT, some bands can blow up in the algo which is great. That Catacomb upload having half a million views is nuts. It’s nice to see old bands get recognition like that especially since I’ve been on a big death/doom kick lately:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qpaBLRqmkA8
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God Forsaken and Decomposed were big discoveries for me when I found out that death metal was allowed to be slow. Bands like Cianide were quite obscure 15 years ago compared to how respected they are now.

The issue with death/doom is that it seems to mean two different things: the genre of Anathema, Saturnus, Morgion, etc, but also simultaneously refers to death metal that is either slow or has doomy elements. Bands in the latter category rarely come up in death/doom discussions and tend only to be listened to OSDM fans, but they aren't necessarily easy to identify until you actually listen to them.

Some other things you may well already know, but I include in this "slow DM" category:

I also like the earliest material of the better known death/doom bands, as they tend to be considered "too death metal" by doom fans, so are often overlooked by both sides. My Dying Bride used to be sickos.

 
Man vs persistent rats said:
My Dying Bride used to be sickos.
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Out of interest, what do you think of 34.788%... Complete? It's my favourite of theirs, because they did some different stuff on it, but everyone went fucking mental at them. So they eventually wrote Songs of Darkness, Words of Light, which was deliberately the most generic, forgettable doomy death possible... and people loved it.

They always seemed to be trapped by expectations, and never managed to get away from them, unlike Anathema whose mid-period albums (Fine Day and Natural Disaster) did really well for a Music For Nations band.

Until Sony bought it, obv.
 
Gian-Luca Caluga said:
Out of interest, what do you think of 34.788%... Complete? It's my favourite of theirs, because they did some different stuff on it, but everyone went fucking mental at them. So they eventually wrote Songs of Darkness, Words of Light, which was deliberately the most generic, forgettable doomy death possible... and people loved it.
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I wasn't a fan of it at the time, but I agree that since The Light at the End of the World they became very formulaic. Have you heard High Parasite? It's where they may have ended up if they went down the alt metal pipeline that so many other bands at the time did (Amorphis, Katatonia, Sentenced, Paradise Lost...).


I did like alt-rock Anathema for a while but lost track of them after A Fine Day to Exit.
 
It's been over 13 years since I last saw Iron Maiden live, but I finally will see them again on tour. It probably will be fun and I can sort of treat it like a farewell tour. No idea how many years the band will still tour or even record music and I wouldn't be surprised if they just fizzle out without a proper goodbye. The only really disappointing thing is that I can't catch the Eddfest performance of Blaze.
 
New Elder album is out (prog):


Really a continuation of where they left of on Omens. Some really great parts, but a lot of keyboard/guitar synth shit in between. Also, kind of falling into that BTBAM trap where it almost seems like they are recycling riffs. I think I like this album better than Omens, cause it still has more raw/heavier parts, but it's nothing on their classics. I mean I saw them play Lore in full live just last year and I just wish they'd re-discover that and continue down that path.



Also new Monolord (stoner):


Basically the opposite of Elder. Sounds like Monolord has been listening to a ton of sludge or something. It's still distinctly them, but damn this has a ton more edge than even Rust did. Only listened through once, but they've expanded their sound in the right direction with shit like Inside a Collider. Seeing them in August, and can't wait to hear a bunch of these live. I mean how often do you say that about a band that has classic albums you love.
 
These dudes rip Flaming Ouroboros to shreds and I have to concede that they’re pretty much correct but I’m still bopping my head at every sample they play to hate on. I think I understand now though that Flaming Ouroboros just scratches an itch when I want to listen to emo.
 
A Pale Shadow said:
Helloween
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Like the chud I am, I only care for the first three albums, with the occasional Deris album (Time Of the Oath mainly).
FPTMIU said:
What's some good power metal? Preferably with overt progressive rock influence. It's the main kind of metal I like because I'm a larper

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If you like Rhapsody, I recommend Ancient Bards.

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If you want a more US Power Metal band that has prog influences, Savatage (at least Gutter Ballet and the following records).

Angra's also relatively prog-heavy, and I recommend Angels Cry and Holy Land.
 
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FPTMIU said:
What's some good power metal? Preferably with overt progressive rock influence. It's the main kind of metal I like because I'm a larper

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TbVnjcXpppI
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Power-prog:


More conventonal epic power metal:


The power-prog section is a total crapshoot as it's a weird genre. I'm tempted to list a bunch of flower metal bands that Rhapsody is usually categorised with, but I assume they'll lack the spice you're looking for. There's also a bunch in the power/speed metal direction (Rage, Helloween, Running Wild, Persuader, etc) or other chunky stuff (Tad Morose, Morgana LeFay, Angel Dust, Brainstorm) that may or may not fit.
 
I think Death or Glory by Running Wild is the best starting point for someone wanting to get into the genre. I’m a little bias though, I think Running Wild is one of the greatest bands of all time. Land of the Free by Gamma Ray too. I don’t listen to much of the genre anymore, but I still go back and listen to those frequently. RAGE from Germany is a favorite of mine and also quite underrated. They have a million albums but Trapped! from the early 90’s might be their best front to back. End of All Days, Black in Mind, Soundchaser, and the all timer Perfect Man are hard to miss too. Also listen to Tunes of War by Grave Digger.

Not a power metal band (although Jörg Michael is on drums here), but one of the best power metal songs of all time:

 
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