The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join - Pentagon scrambles to retain the main pipeline for new service members as disillusioned families steer young people away

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Sky Nisperos’s grandfather came to the U.S. from Mexico, and became an American citizen by serving in the U.S. Navy. Her father, Ernest Nisperos, is an active-duty officer in the Air Force with two decades of service. For years, Sky planned to follow a similar path. “I wanted to be a fighter pilot,” the 22-year-old said. “It was stuck in my head.” Now, one of the most influential people in her life—her father—is telling her that a military career may not be the right thing. The children of military families make up the majority of new recruits in the U.S. military. That pipeline is now under threat, which is bad news for the Pentagon’s already acute recruitment problems, as well as America’s military readiness. “Influencers are not telling them to go into the military,” said Adm. Mike Mullen, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in an interview.

“Moms and dads, uncles, coaches and pastors don’t see it as a good choice.” After the patriotic boost to recruiting that followed 9/11, the U.S. military has endured 20 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan with no decisive victories, scandals over shoddy military housing and healthcare, poor pay for lower ranks that forces many military families to turn to food stamps, and rising rates of post-traumatic stress disorder and suicide. At the same time, the labor market is the tightest it has been in decades, meaning plenty of other options exist for young people right out of school. U.S. recruiting shortfalls represent a long-term problem that, if not resolved, would compel the military to reduce its force size. With America embarking on a new era of great-power competition with China and Russia, that problem has become more serious. China, which has around two million serving personnel, versus a little under 1.4 million in the U.S., has steadily expanded its military capabilities in recent decades, especially in the South China Sea.



The most immediate threat is a possible conflict with China over Taiwan, which would require a rapid and sustained response from all parts of the U.S. armed forces. “I’ve been studying the recruiting market for about 15 years, and we’ve never seen a condition quite like this,” said a senior Defense Department official. Toughest year The U.S. Army in 2022 had its toughest recruiting year since the advent of the all-volunteer military in 1973 and missed its goal by 25%. This year, it expects to end up about 15,000 short of its target of 65,000 recruits. The Navy expects to fall short by as many as 10,000 of its goal of nearly 38,000 recruits this year, and the Air Force has said it is anticipating coming in at 3,000 below its goal of nearly 27,000. The Marine Corps met its target last year of sending 33,000 to boot camp, and expects to meet its goals this year, but its leaders described recruitment as challenging. Only 9% of young people ages 16-21 said last year they would consider military service, down from 13% before the pandemic, according to Pentagon data. Pentagon officials see recruitment shortfalls as a crisis and pledge to hit their targets in the future to stave off making changes to the force structure. Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said she expects within weeks to begin drafting a proposal for a recruiting overhaul so sweeping that Congress might need to pass legislation to enact all of it. She declined to provide details but said a key element will be to coordinate with veterans’ groups. “Right now we are not in a comprehensive, structured way leveraging our relationships with veterans organizations,” Wormuth said. The Army has stepped up and modernized its marketing, launched remedial courses to bring unqualified young people to a level where they can join and revised some benefits. Army recruiters spoke with members of the National FFA Organization, formerly called Future Farmers of America, at an FFA convention in Indianapolis, Ind., in October. PHOTO: KAITI SULLIVAN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Defense officials said they aren’t doing a good job of battling what they call misperceptions. They said many families want their children to go on to higher education after high school, considering the military a stumbling block instead of a steppingstone. Once a young person is on a path to a career, they aren’t as likely to put on a uniform, they said. When the draft ended at the close of the Vietnam War, the military fostered recruitment with the promise of a good career with retirement benefits and healthcare, as well as education benefits to prepare soldiers for life after the military.


That strategy worked, and the Army typically met its overall needs. It did so by relying heavily on veterans and military families to develop the next generation of recruits, especially in the region known in the military as the “Southern Smile,” a curving region from the mid-Atlantic and down across the southern U.S. Today, nearly 80% of all new Army recruits have a family member who has served in uniform, according to the service. That can be a good thing, said Col. Mark Crow, director of the Office of Economic and Manpower Analysis at West Point, because “people who know the most about it stick around.” Depending too much on military families could create a “warrior caste,” Wormuth said. Her plans seek to draw in people who have no real connection to the military and to broaden the appeal of service. Sky Nisperos, who moved around the world as a military brat, said that as a teen she began to see the effect of her father’s nearly dozen deployments and tours away from his family.


Ernest Nisperos said he remembers being asleep when one of his kids jabbed him in the ribs to wake him. He put Sky’s sister in a wrestling ankle lock before he realized he was back home. “My sister and I would say, ‘It’s just drill sergeant-dad mode,’ especially for the month he came back,” Sky said. Ernest Nisperos realized his deployments, which involved battle planning and top secret intelligence, were taking a toll. In 2019, after he returned from Afghanistan, he took the family to Disneyland. During the nightly fireworks extravaganza, he cowered in the fetal position while his family and “Toy Story” characters looked on. Sky worried her father would end up like her grandfather, the military patriarch, who in the years since he retired from the Navy started to have what the family describes as flashbacks to his time in Ramadi, Iraq, in 2005, sometimes yelling that he needed to take cover from a nonexistent attack. Her father decided he didn’t want that life for Sky and her two siblings. ‘What was it all for?’ Some on the left see the military as a redoubt of fringe conservatism. Oath Keepers, the militia group involved in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol whose leaders were found guilty of seditious conspiracy, and other extremists have touted their veteran credentials.

Those on the right have expressed concerns about the military focusing on progressive issues, or in the terms of some Republican lawmakers, being too “woke.” The sudden and unpopular conclusion to the war in Afghanistan in 2021 added to the disenchantment of some veterans, including Catalina Gasper, who served in the Navy. Gasper said she and her husband, who spent more than two decades in the Army, used to talk to their boys, now 7 and 10, about their future service, asking them if they wanted to be Navy SEALs. In July 2019, on her last combat deployment to Afghanistan, she was stationed at a base in Kabul when the Taliban launched an attack. The blast battered Gasper’s body and she was transported back to the U.S. for treatment and recovery. She was left with lingering damage from a traumatic brain injury. She is sensitive to loud sounds and bright lights. She has recurrent dizziness and forgets words. She also has bad knees and herniated discs in her back. The U.S. pulled out of Afghanistan in the summer of 2021, precipitating Kabul’s fall to the Taliban. “We’re left with the gut-wrenching feeling of, ‘What was it all for?’ ” she said. She said she was a patriot but decided she would do everything she could to make sure her kids never enter the military. “I just don’t see how it’s sustainable if the machine keeps chewing up and spitting out” our young people, she said.


Katherine Kuzminski, head of the Military, Veterans and Society Program at Center for a New American Security, a bipartisan security think tank, said the pandemic exacerbated the military’s long-term recruiting problems. “You can’t underestimate the fact we didn’t have recruiters on college and high school campuses for two years,” she said. “Recruiters are the only military access point for many people” without family or friends in the military. Potential Army recruits at the FFA convention used virtual reality headsets. PHOTO: KAITI SULLIVAN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Wormuth, the Army secretary, said she is working with the Department of Education to streamline access to schools. Even with federal laws in place that guarantee military recruiters access to high school and college students, school administrators can limit the scope of visits and restrict recruiters’ movements and activities in schools. Recruiters are competing with some of the lowest unemployment numbers in decades, and entry-level jobs in the service industry that can promise quick paychecks, no commitments and no wait times to start. “To be honest with you it’s Wendy’s, it’s Carl’s Jr., it’s every single job that a young person can go up against because now they are offering the same incentives that we are offering, so that’s our competition right now,” said Sgt. Maj. Marco Irenze, of the Nevada Army National Guard. Defense officials said the military pay scale was designed for single teenage men content to live in barracks and who joined to seek adventure, among other reasons.


But the military has seen a shift from teens to people in their 20s, who come in later in life with greater expectations for benefits, pay and marketable skills and who pay more attention to the job market. The lowest-ranking troops make less than $2,000 a month, although pay is bolstered by benefits including healthcare, food and housing, leaving them few out-of-pocket expenses. Families or those who live off base can find expenses outstrip income. More than 20,000 active-duty troops are on SNAP benefits, otherwise known as food stamps, according to federal data. When service members move to a new base they often have to spend money out of pocket—even though the Army is supposed to cover all costs, according to Kathy Roth-Douquet, CEO of Blue Star Families, a military-family advocacy group that is currently asking Congress to mandate more funding for troops’ housing. “If it’s too expensive to serve in the military, families won’t recommend service,” she said. “This hurts the main pipeline of recruitment.” The promise of a pension down the line isn’t as attractive as it once was, said West Point’s Crow. Only 19% of active-duty troops stayed until retirement age in 2017, according to the Pentagon. To tackle that problem, the military started a system in 2018 that allows troops to invest in what is essentially a 401(k) program, so if they leave the military before full retirement they can still benefit. Prep courses The Department of Defense said 77% of American youth are disqualified from military service due to a lack of physical fitness, low test scores, criminal records including drug use or other problems. In 2013, about 71% of youth were ineligible.



The Army estimates that pandemic pressures on education including remote learning, illness, lack of internet access and social isolation lowered scores on the ASVAB, the military’s standardized test for potential recruits, by as much as 9%. Those who score below a certain level on the test and on physical readiness tests can’t join without improving their scores. Lt. Col. Dan Hayes, a Green Beret who once taught Special Forces captains, some of the highest-performing soldiers in the Army, took charge of the Future Soldier Prep Course in Fort Jackson, S.C. The course takes Army recruits who can’t perform academically or physically and gets them up to standards that allow them to join the service. Other programs help new soldiers raise scores. “We’re looking at the problems in society and recruiting and realizing we have to meet people half way,” said Hayes. The Army is adapting marketing techniques from the private sector. One early lesson: The Cold War-era slogan, “Be All You Can Be,” performed better than a recent one, “Army of One,” which didn’t reflect the teamwork the service thinks appeals to current teenagers. The slogan also emphasizes that the military offers career development and a broader sense of purpose, some of its strongest selling points. Maj. Gen. Deborah Kotulich, the director of the Army’s recruiting and retention task force, a unit convened to address recent shortfalls, said potential recruits should know the Army has more than 150 different job fields available.


Maj. General Alex Fink is just as likely to wear a business suit as camouflage fatigues at the Army Enterprise Marketing Office based in Chicago. The Army put Fink, a reservist with a marketing background, in Chicago so he can be in the heart of one of the nation’s advertising and marketing hubs. “It hadn’t evolved for the last 15 or 20 years,” he said in an interview. “We really couldn’t measure the effectiveness of marketing.” Fink’s office is now gathering data on every potential recruit. If an Army ad runs on Facebook and a link gets clicked, the service can follow that anonymous user digitally. “We don’t know your name, but we can start serving you ads,” he said. And if that user eventually fills out an Army questionnaire, the service has a name to go with that data and can know what kinds of ads work best. “Literally we can track this all the way until a kid signs a contract,” he said. Restructuring units Deeper problems soldiers report include moldy barracks, harassment, lack of adequate child care and not enough support for mental health issues such as suicide. “Parents have concerns about, hey, if my kid joins the military are they going to have good places to live?” Wormuth said. “If my kid joins the military are they going to be sexually harassed, or are they going to be more prone to suicidal ideations?” She said the Army has encouraged recruiters to be forthright about addressing what might have once been taboo issues in order to dispel those concerns


. The service says it has worked to encourage troops to report abuse and harassment and cracked down on such behavior, and has also expanded parental-leave benefits. Department of Defense officials have said they will have to address the total combat power of the military if the recruiting crisis continues, but that they aren’t ready to yet talk about whether strength will ultimately be affected. Readiness shortfalls can be masked when units aren’t headed into war, but a full-scale response, such as what would be needed in the Pacific, could expose undermanned units that can’t be deployed or aren’t effective, and ships and aircraft that aren’t combat ready due to a lack of personnel to maintain them. The military faces decisions on either cutting the size of units or reconfiguring them, or making choices that could hurt the quality of the current forces. Working to retain existing soldiers is an option. But retention can mean low performers aren’t let go, said Gil Barndollar, a senior research fellow at the Center for the Study of Statesmanship at Catholic University of America. “If you’re not cutting your bottom 10% after their initial contracts it’s going to have a long-term effect on high performers,” he said. Last year, the Army’s top officer, Gen. James McConville, told reporters the service was prepared to eliminate redundancies in the Army’s key fighting units, which are called brigade combat teams.


The Army would maintain the number of the units by reducing the personnel in each of them, a restructuring that was prompted by the recruiting crunch, according to one defense official. Potential recruits at the FFA convention tried a fitness challenge. PHOTO: KAITI SULLIVAN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a nonpartisan think tank, said the Army might end up making cuts that leave too few soldiers in platoons and other units. During peacetime and training this may go unnoticed, but if those units have to deploy, the Army would have to take troops from other units to fill in gaps. Undermanned units aren’t ready to respond quickly, Cancian said, and units with fill-in soldiers don’t have the same effectiveness as a unit whose members trained together for months or years. “What you’re going to see in the Army are hollow units,” he said. Wormuth, the Army secretary, has said units will get cuts but hasn’t made public her plan. She has for months hinted at broader force reductions. “If you look at us over the course of the last 50 years of history, the Army is a little bit like an accordion.


We tend to expand in times of war,” Wormuth said. “Frankly that’s how the Founding Fathers thought about the military, they didn’t want a large standing militia.” Still, she said, the Army is “very, very focused” on turning around the recruiting numbers. Changes may come too late for those about to graduate from high school or college. Sky Nisperos, who once dreamed of becoming an Air Force pilot, graduated from the University of Oklahoma in May. Her plan now, she said, is to become a graphic designer.


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My Oldest son was in the Navy for 4 years. Other than the friends he made, he has nothing good to say about it. He was depressed the entire time he was in, drank heavily, and ate so much that he put on 60 lbs (that one blew my mind), and he GTFO at the nearest opportunity. He won't talk about it now beyond saying how much he hated it. The only positive from my perspective is he does have a good job now which he got due to the fact that his boss was also in the Navy.

Edit: FWIW, my son lost all the weight he put on in the Navy, and some. He was so happy when he got out, lol.
 
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My old man, having served in Vietnam, literally gets flagged every single time before going on an airplane for "random checks" and always gets treated like absolute dogshit by the TSA. He's literally been visited by the feds over "suspicions" twice despite never having once done anything wrong. It's actually insane how much contempt the government has for the people they sent off to die for them.

My dad was in Vietnam, as well. Did yours ever fly off the handle at being treated that way? Mine did more than I care to remember. After years of taking shit for things he never did, he one day he just decided he wasn't going to stand for it anymore. It was nice to see him unleash now and then, but I don't think he ever learned how to dial it back when he should have. He was always in fight or flight, and he loved to fight.

The 'yellow ribbon' and 'support the troops' stuff that came after 9/11 really blew his mind. Suddenly people had gone from hating him, to making jokes about him, to forgetting he existed, and now to loving him. He didn't beat on his chest with pride over it, though. It really stunned him. Maybe it even tamed him a bit.

My Oldest son was in the Navy for 4 years. Other than the friends he made, he has nothing good to say about it. He was depressed the entire time he was in, drank heavily, and ate so much that he put on 60 lbs (that one blew my mind), and he GTFO at the nearest opportunity. He won't talk about it now beyond saying how much he hated it. The only positive from my perspective is he does have a good job now which he got due to the fact that his boss was also in the Navy.
A good friend of mine was a Nuke (nuclear reactor mechanic) and doesn't have anything good to say about it either. Things were off at first, but he put it all behind him and just kept moving on. Stuff would get darker and weirder, but he kept pushing forward. It all came to a head when he found one of his friends on ship had committed suicide. The Nuke program, as he told it, would chew you up and spit you out. It was difficult for good reason, but some people in that program, both in school and in the fleet, took a sick joy in just fucking with you. His friend, he figured, had just had enough of it and found his out.
 
"You’ve spent 15 years enlisted in the military. You’ve been on 8 combat tours, have a few KIA bracelets on your wrists, & you missed your 2nd child’s birth because you were overseas. In walks your new commander, Major “Rachel” Jones."
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The military is activity using this person as a ad. I want to take this video on loop and just play it outside of any recruiting table/office for any one dumb enough to show up.
This man is a faggot.

This man is overweight. That alone should shame anyone who wears our colors. Look at that soft gut, protruding selfishly outwards from his weakened beta male frame. The unkempt hair slithering down from his balding, pudgy head. He only passes PT by barely passing womens' fitness standards, and never could for his own sex.

This is a man who bombastically claimed to be what half our population is, effortlessly - a woman - and thus became an officer, more well-paid with an easier career than I ever got as an enlisted man. He does not fight - he cannot. He does not lead - he cannot. He does not even work - he cannot.

This is the body, speech, and face of a man who will get those under his command killed in conflict. And he will not care, he will panic instead, a selfish cross of fear of punishment from above and that he is to be shot next by the enemy. This man deserves to be fragged and killed by his own troops before he, essentially, kills them.

This is the man the military sent to entice you to join it for.

Will you?
 
This man is a faggot.

This man is overweight. That alone should shame anyone who wears our colors. Look at that soft gut, protruding selfishly outwards from his weakened beta male frame. The unkempt hair slithering down from his balding, pudgy head. He only passes PT by barely passing womens' fitness standards, and never could for his own sex.

This is a man who bombastically claimed to be what half our population is, effortlessly - a woman - and thus became an officer, more well-paid with an easier career than I ever got as an enlisted man. He does not fight - he cannot. He does not lead - he cannot. He does not even work - he cannot.

This is the body, speech, and face of a man who will get those under his command killed in conflict. And he will not care, he will panic instead, a selfish cross of fear of punishment from above and that he is to be shot next by the enemy. This man deserves to be fragged and killed by his own troops before he, essentially, kills them.

This is the man the military sent to entice you to join it for.

Will you?
Dude looks like he will fit in with the rest of the current military leadership.

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Here is an story on some vets that decided to continue their service in other ways.

Americans Who Fought Putin Share ‘Horrifying’ War Surprises (Archive)

In the days preceding Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, David Bramlette found himself in a classroom in Washington, D.C. discussing whether Russia might invade Ukraine. He was in the middle of earning a master’s degree from Johns Hopkins in international affairs. At the time, he admits, he found the prospect of a Russian invasion implausible.

But when Russia eventually pulled the trigger and invaded Ukraine in February last year, David, who had previously completed stints working for the U.S. military as a Green Beret on a counter-Russia mission and as an Army Ranger in Iraq and Afghanistan, felt compelled to go fight the Russians.

“It’s good and evil in my mind,” Bramlette told The Daily Beast in an interview from Kyiv this week.

“I’m sitting in class, and I’m like, I could sit here and finish my degree and go work in some office job, and have a tiny iota of impact on the world working in some government office, right?” Bramlette recounted. “I have the knowledge and the skills and abilities to go help. So I basically took a leave of absence from my master’s program and went over.”

By early March Bramlette, who goes by “Bam,” was en route to Warsaw, Poland to get his bearings before joining the foreign legion in Ukraine. While boarding the plane to Poland, Bam said he sent his parents a quick email explaining why he was going to war for another country.

“I sent my parents an email that says like… This is the most righteous war that I think my generation will see in our lifetime. This is straight up good versus evil,” Bramlette told The Daily Beast. “That’s why I went. I was like, I can’t put up with this shit.”

Like Bramlette, former Marine Troy Offenbecker was compelled to join the fight against Russia’s invasion early on in the war. He told The Daily Beast that Russian atrocities against Ukrainians reported in the news were part of the final straw that got him geared up to go to war.

“Last March I’d seen everything that was happening, and when I heard about the international legion, I knew I was going to come,” Offenbecker told The Daily Beast in an interview from Kyiv. “But at the time I had some obligations that were holding me there. It took me two months… I had to sell my house, I sold my vehicles.”

Offenbecker spent time preparing, conditioning, and getting in better physical shape to fight.

When he saw images of mass graves and Ukrainian civilians murdered execution-style in Bucha, Offenbecker was livid.

“It really made me furious that you could do that to someone so innocent,” he said. “It really pissed me off.”

“I have a skillset that I learned, I had six years in the Marine Corps, I was instructing other Marines, I instructed other countries on how to fight. I just thought it wouldn’t be right if I sat at home,” Offenbecker said.

The urge to go for Bramlette was also personal.

In 2014, just two months before Russia illegally annexed Crimea from Ukraine, he arrived to work for the 1st battalion 10th Special Forces Group in Stuttgart, Germany. When Russia moved in, it was go time for him.

“When Crimea happened, all of our emphasis went to defending Eastern Europe, essentially. So my three years in Special Forces was basically doing… partner training all over Central and Eastern Europe and western Europe too,” Bam said. “But I never really felt like we were accomplishing very much.”

And while Bramlette has previously been on combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, there are a whole slew of service members or veterans throughout the world who prepared to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, and who, for whatever reason, didn’t get to. From the vets he has seen gearing up in Ukraine, many have felt the pull to fill that gap, Bam said.

“There’s nothing more frustrating than training and training, training for something your whole life, or for years on end, and then never actually getting to sort of test your mettle,” he said. “A lot of those guys, that was kind of the vibe.”

Offenbecker shared similar sentiments. “I’ve encountered some guys where maybe they were here for some sense of purpose, they’ve seen their buddies go through war and they never did,” he said.

Once in Ukraine, the wartime preparations in Lviv and Kyiv involved a little bit of luck and a little bit of chaos, Bramlette said.

First, Bramlette was caught off guard by how many people picked up and went to Ukraine to help fight without having any military experience.

“There’s a lot of really dumb-ass volunteers over here who have no business being in a war,” he said.

After arriving in Poland in early March of 2022, he took a train to Lviv to meet up with other volunteer fighters. But on the way, he found several other foreigners he didn’t want to fight side-by-side with, he said.

“I met three other foreigners on a train. One was a German, and he had no military experience. He was a carpenter or something like that,” Bramlette said. “He had shot a gun—like a little bit. And it was a hunting rifle.”

Once in Ukraine, Bramlette sized up some different groups of foreign volunteers, but found their military background similarly lacking. He was “equally unhappy with the quality of foreigners there,” he said.

A few days later, he hooked up with two other Green Berets to form a multi-national squad of about 12 people to form a small unit tactics team, or a special operations team.

“And then essentially, they give us orders for Kharkiv and said, ‘Go kill as many Russians as you can,’” he said.

After some training and preparation, with guns and ammunition from Ukraine’s supplies, the squad was off.

“We did all our own recruiting from foreigners who were already in Kyiv. And we did all our own resourcing, funding, like buying our own cars, funding our own safe houses,” Bam said.

In Kharkiv, their missions were largely self-driven. The Ukrainian government didn’t link them up with Ukrainian or other foreign volunteer units to coordinate, so they took it on themselves, introducing themselves to territorial defense forces, regular army units, airborne units, and Ukrainian Special Operations units.

After making connections near the front, Bam’s squad would get a brief on the latest on the Russians, and determine what kind of a mission they should run for the Ukrainians, from running reconnaissance on enemy positions to mining.

Offenbecker, the former Marine, also had to organize his fighting team on the fly. He had applied to the international legion but hadn’t heard anything back in about a week. Instead of waiting around for final plans, he told a few family members and close friends, packed up, and got himself to Ukraine.

“I didn’t hear anything so I just flew… anyways. I figured I would volunteer and help some other way,” Offenbecker said.

Once in Ukraine, he connected with the right people to join the international legion and was soon fighting with them in the Donbas in Eastern Ukraine.

Even in those early days, he started seeing some foreign volunteers that didn’t have any clue what they were in for.

“This is my third war I’ve fought in, and this is by far the worst one,” Offenbecker told The Daily Beast. “You’re getting fucking smashed with artillery, tanks. Last week I had a plane drop a bomb next to us, like 300 meters away. It’s horrifying shit.”

Once he was there, some of his buddies from the military started messaging him asking for information on how to join up, too. But he ignored messages for months.

“To be honest it was pretty bad so I didn’t want to bring anyone else into it,” he said.

The missions were grueling, Bramlette said. In Iraq or Afghanistan, Bramlette had air support, or supporting ISR, or intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. “The worst day in Afghanistan and Iraq is a great day in Ukraine,” he said. “Even when we thought it wasn’t, we were always in control of the situation… versus as a commander of a team in Ukraine,” where there are more unknowns.

On reconnaissance missions in Ukraine, you just have to wait until the team members come back, since comms aren’t reliable. “I would always send a reconnaissance element out first… as soon as those guys leave my side, I’m not gonna really hear from them until they’re back within eyesight. And that may be 24 hours later, maybe 48 hours later,” he explained. “If two of them get injured… there’s no helicopter coming to get you… shit can go south really, really frickin’ quickly. And that’s the kind of stuff that is pretty hard.”

When the wintertime set in, Bramlette made the call to send members of his small unit home to take a break. Their thermal signatures were popping more than in the summertime, giving away their positions. Staying out of Russian troops’ sights was growing harder each day, as leafy coverage disappeared. In addition to those issues, the squad’s vehicles kept breaking down, and they were running out of money.

“Since we’re a small unit tactics team… you’re running around… in front of the Ukrainian line and in front of the Russian line. You don’t have leaves on the trees, the bushes are bare, the trees are bare, and it’s colder… It’s really bad news bears,” Bramlette said. “You can’t hide.”

Without drastically changing their approach, they were setting themselves up for failure. “I was just afraid we would go out and do what we normally do and we’d all basically die,” he added.

And while the plan was to plug back in come January, Bam couldn’t bring himself to do it once he got to remove himself from the fog of war.

“When I came back in December it sort of gave me the distance, the space to sort of reevaluate everything that had happened because if I’m in charge of a whole team you don’t have time to really think about everything,” he said. “I kind of shut down a little bit, but it gave me the decompression space to reassess. And so I came to the conclusion that I’m not going to go back and fight.”

Bam is still working on helping the war effort from Kyiv through his work for The Weatherman Foundation, which has recently been working on locating and transferring the remains of Americans killed fighting in Ukraine.

Offenbecker is currently working on switching to a new team in Ukraine’s foreign legion, and has plans to continue fighting in Ukraine.

“I look at these children, and I have my own child and niece and nephews. If that were a circumstance for them, I would hope people from all over the world would come and try to help keep them safe and protected as well,” Offenbecker said. “That’s what keeps me here.”

But if the global community isn’t willing to properly address Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, Moscow will only continue its territorial expansion tear, Bramlette warned.

“If we don’t get serious about how we think about Russia, and we don’t stop Russia here, the next step is… Belarus gets folded into Russia. Or Moldova gets folded into Russia. Ukraine gets folded into Russia,” Bramlette said. “Russia is a rabid dog. The Kremlin needs to get put down.”
 
Here is an story on some vets that decided to continue their service in other ways.

Americans Who Fought Putin Share ‘Horrifying’ War Surprises (Archive)

I couldn't stop giggling.

"OH NOES! NO AIR SUPPORT! NO CHOPPERS! OH FUCK IT ISN'T LIKE FIGHTING GOAT HERDERS!"

NO shit, faggot.

Why do you think there was like a million of us there.

It's hilarious how for all their EIGHT YEARS CRAYON EATER! and GREEN BERET SNAKE EATING SUPERSTAR these two faggots had no idea how to fight against near peer.

They couldn't even do basic bitch winter fighting.

BUT...

The funnies thing?

The VA will now deny ALL their claims. They will no longer get any VA compensation or anything else, the VA will reevaluate them, and every single medical condition they have or will develop will be credited to their time playing Wolverines.

Source: Retard at the VA I go to went to the Ukraine to fight. He's lost all his compensation. He doesn't even qualify for fucking injuries that happened in service. ALL of it is being blamed on Ukrainian fighting.

The best part is just how shocked, SHOCKED I SAY that Ivan dropped artillery on them.

I giggle my ass off when I realize these hard charging faggots have no idea how to fight and don't realize they don't know.

Plus, going to Ukraine and trusting the slavs?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHA.

I love how you can hear the saltiness that they weren't treated like they were special and basically had to form their own little merc units.

Thanks for the article, it really made my afternoon so much better.
 
Quick! Lower the standards just a little more. We need to get them numbers up! More Emma and her 2 mom's ads!

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The military is activity using this person as a ad. I want to take this video on loop and just play it outside of any recruiting table/office for any one dumb enough to show up.
Lets compare that to the Russian and Chyna ad campaigns...
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It was difficult for good reason, but some people in that program, both in school and in the fleet, took a sick joy in just fucking with you. His friend, he figured, had just had enough of it and found his out.
It's not just nukes; as one of my friends who's still current Air Force found out, the Navy and Marine Corps have a bit of a "hazing problem," especially on the maintenance side. I'm not sure where he went, but he somewhat recently had to share space with them; and when he got back he called and asked what the fuck is wrong with our SNCOs.

I've bitched about it plenty in other threads; but I'll just leave with one of my favorite events. Staff Sergeant is a fat piece of shit, but he's the SNCOIC of his department, and he makes it his life's work to fuck with one particular Lance Corporal. Lance Corporal starts losing his weekends due to extra duties and all sorts of other shit, his leave get pulled for no reason, just all sorts of administrative fuckery because this Staff Sergeant is a massive fucking piece of shit and he can. Then finally one day, I'm in the workbay and hear a loud crash followed by yelling every swear word in the language and how he'll slit the Staff Sergeants throat with his pen and let him bleed out like a fucking pig and all other sorts of shit. Everyone in the building could hear this, so there's no mistake about what's going on. But long story short, nothing happens, they just put a new SNCOIC in the office, but didn't remove the old one, and pretended life went on as normal.

Of course when your contract is up, they're the first ones in line to try and guilt you into re-enlisting. The SNCO Corps needs to be fucking cleaned out, violently if necessary.
 
This man is a faggot.

This man is overweight. That alone should shame anyone who wears our colors. Look at that soft gut, protruding selfishly outwards from his weakened beta male frame. The unkempt hair slithering down from his balding, pudgy head. He only passes PT by barely passing womens' fitness standards, and never could for his own sex.

This is a man who bombastically claimed to be what half our population is, effortlessly - a woman - and thus became an officer, more well-paid with an easier career than I ever got as an enlisted man. He does not fight - he cannot. He does not lead - he cannot. He does not even work - he cannot.

This is the body, speech, and face of a man who will get those under his command killed in conflict. And he will not care, he will panic instead, a selfish cross of fear of punishment from above and that he is to be shot next by the enemy. This man deserves to be fragged and killed by his own troops before he, essentially, kills them.

This is the man the military sent to entice you to join it for.

Will you?
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It's not just nukes; as one of my friends who's still current Air Force found out, the Navy and Marine Corps have a bit of a "hazing problem," especially on the maintenance side. I'm not sure where he went, but he somewhat recently had to share space with them; and when he got back he called and asked what the fuck is wrong with our SNCOs.

I've bitched about it plenty in other threads; but I'll just leave with one of my favorite events. Staff Sergeant is a fat piece of shit, but he's the SNCOIC of his department, and he makes it his life's work to fuck with one particular Lance Corporal. Lance Corporal starts losing his weekends due to extra duties and all sorts of other shit, his leave get pulled for no reason, just all sorts of administrative fuckery because this Staff Sergeant is a massive fucking piece of shit and he can. Then finally one day, I'm in the workbay and hear a loud crash followed by yelling every swear word in the language and how he'll slit the Staff Sergeants throat with his pen and let him bleed out like a fucking pig and all other sorts of shit. Everyone in the building could hear this, so there's no mistake about what's going on. But long story short, nothing happens, they just put a new SNCOIC in the office, but didn't remove the old one, and pretended life went on as normal.

Of course when your contract is up, they're the first ones in line to try and guilt you into re-enlisting. The SNCO Corps needs to be fucking cleaned out, violently if necessary.
Then they wonder why re-up rates are so poor, then they keep spending the same money over and over to recruit and train new people, when good leadership would keep many more troops. Problem across all services. Saw it big-time at the Defense Language Institute, both as a student and later as an associate dean.
 
I drove through Temple the other day and noticed they had changed all the street signs to read "Ft. Cavazos", the new name of Fort Hood in the wave of neo-iconoclasm we have going on.

But this is all an underlying problem. You're spending all this money and resources on petty renaming bullshit as your organization continues to crumble.
 
Here is an story on some vets that decided to continue their service in other ways.

Americans Who Fought Putin Share ‘Horrifying’ War Surprises (Archive)

I couldn't stop giggling.

"OH NOES! NO AIR SUPPORT! NO CHOPPERS! OH FUCK IT ISN'T LIKE FIGHTING GOAT HERDERS!"

NO shit, faggot.

Why do you think there was like a million of us there.

It's hilarious how for all their EIGHT YEARS CRAYON EATER! and GREEN BERET SNAKE EATING SUPERSTAR these two faggots had no idea how to fight against near peer.

They couldn't even do basic bitch winter fighting.

BUT...

The funnies thing?

The VA will now deny ALL their claims. They will no longer get any VA compensation or anything else, the VA will reevaluate them, and every single medical condition they have or will develop will be credited to their time playing Wolverines.

Source: Retard at the VA I go to went to the Ukraine to fight. He's lost all his compensation. He doesn't even qualify for fucking injuries that happened in service. ALL of it is being blamed on Ukrainian fighting.

The best part is just how shocked, SHOCKED I SAY that Ivan dropped artillery on them.

I giggle my ass off when I realize these hard charging faggots have no idea how to fight and don't realize they don't know.

Plus, going to Ukraine and trusting the slavs?

AHAHAHAHAHHAHA.

I love how you can hear the saltiness that they weren't treated like they were special and basically had to form their own little merc units.

Thanks for the article, it really made my afternoon so much better.
Guy buys into propaganda, finds out he's fighting a near-peer adversary, that he's treated as expendable because he's foreign...

Yeah, no shit. You ate propaganda for a proxy war? Good vs. Evil? Shut the fuck up faggot. That doesn't exist in wars. Fucking thinking good vs. evil in a proxy war, good christ.
 
Lol we are so fucked in the next conflict it's not even funny. Retards think we will swoop in like always and just bomb everything to shit, USA USA USA!
I genuinely don't think we'd fare well against Grenada in our current state. It's not a matter of what we have - we still have some of the best tech and munitions in the world and a lot of them. But when that fancy drone is being piloted by a 41%er amped up on HRT or your commanding officer in the field is too afraid to lead because that would involve talking down to the uppity loud sheboon in his squad, that all just amounts to shiny toys.
 
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