am currently reading a study by some autistic Japanese "lesbian" (lol no) fujoshi, "Reading and Living Yaoi: Male-Male Narratives as Women's Sexual Subculture in Japan" and she often mentions how BL is something gender-transcending and liberating, a perfect world where two people love each other without ties to their sex. At the same time, female characters only exist to be a stock background to highlight the male character's masculinity and get the chance to become valid in the narrative only if they themselves are lesbians or otherwise queer.
You are not transcending gender if males are the default sex; and you definitely aren't doing it if the "bottom" is the smaller, more feminine one. Going off that "history of yaoi" YouTube video, here are some more comments I didn't post in the general sideshows thread:
Porn made by men for men will have a "faceless man" as men are visually oriented and want to imagine themselves as the ones fucking those women. But not all hentai is done by men for men; a lot of women draw it as well, and focus more on the characters and relationships.
The complaints about "flooding the market" when most BL has the exact same shitty plots as heterosexual romances is not lost on me. They're token NLOGs.
By contrast, here's a more critical comment:
Complaints about the male gaze:
"I can place myself as one of the males and I'M EQUAL!"
Also, lmao at "the female view has too much fantasy at how a relationship pans out" while consuming yaoi, and admitting it's a fantasy for her. "It doesn't shove a partner into a role!" Seme/uke. The more masculine character is the top and you can see this with Western animation as well. If a male character is a "twink" he's the bottom. They're fucking hypocrites.
"I don't like the heteronormative dynamics because they're cliched but I don't like the problematic top/bottom dynamics but it's DIFFERENT "
"People should stop saying two close male friends are gay. Anyways, let me talk about the BL where that's a plotline."
This is what they're basing their "manhood" off of: sweet, cliched romances explicitly made for women. They don't seem to get the irony that them saying men are the only ones who can be equal with each other proves radfems and right wingers right .
@Bastet they love body hair because they think it's manly. They just end up with Tarzan bushes and a Kodiak bear coat.
A loathsome piece of shit woman seeks assurance that it is okay for her to transition even though her four year old daughter has developed severe anxiety about the prospect and doesn't want to let her mother out of her sight in case it happens.
Notice it sounds like dad isn't around for whatever reason either, so this poor kid will have no one in her corner as her narc mother traumatizes her egregiously.
This poor little girl, her primary female role model in life is doing this. It would be better if her mother abandoned her.
And when this stupid woman "detransitions," she won't even have the decency to take responsibility for what she's done and will make it all about how SHE is the victim.
Saw this in the Autism Culture thread (which naturally has a lot of crossover with pooners) and laughed so, so, so very much at one specific line. You'll probably be able to spot it without me even specifying which one, but, hint: it's in the screen grab.
Holy shit, everything this young woman says screams "I am a heterosexual woman!!!", but she has been gaslighted and lied to for years by the media, social media, society, ect. ect., making her believe that there is some mystical thing called gender she just has to figure out, and sex is simply meaningless. She is grasping at straws, ruminating and overthinking, trying so hard to make sense of the superficial woke liberal feminism, gender ideology and her own extremely common feelings and thoughts that only emphasize even further how much she is obviously a woman. If only she has the fortune to had been born merely 15 years prior, the thought that she is not a woman would have never crossed her mind even for a second. But she didn't have this luck, so. Agonizing over gender nonsense it is.
I mean, just listen to this:
When I started to think of my sexual preferences... The fact I hate penetration,
Many women don't like penetration, it's uncomfortable feeling for many women. Ask women and you will see many feel the same. Read books and you will see many women throughout history had felt the same. This is a very common woman thing. That does not make you a man.
the fact I had on multiple occasions thought it must be so much better to be a man during sex,
Yeah, I had these thoughts too and I bet many other women had it as well. The issue of women's difficulties with sex compared to men's is well known. This is a very common woman thing. That does not make you a man.
the fact I'm obsessed with Yaoi and BL and never got the same level of identification with any GLs despite trying to read a bunch...
Yes, this is because you are a heterosexual woman. Yaoi and BL's target audience is heterosexual women.
Things I failed to properly think about, because I'd attribute my lack of interest in lesbian media to misogyny, that I should just try to find better stories and I'd find one I'd be obsessed with. And yeah, there's some works I like, but I never got really into any of them like I do with BLs or even shoujos... I thought that was some sort of rooted misogyny I couldn't get rid of, but now I see even the media I consume was telling me things... I wouldn't see myself in a lesbian relationship if I'm a man....
The media you consume was telling you you are a heterosexual woman. You are not as interested in lesbian media because you are not a lesbian, but a heterosexual woman. You are interested in BL and shojo because you are a heterosexual woman.
But you don't have to believe me. Let's see what Wikipedia says.
"It is typically created by women for a female audience"
"targeting an audience of adolescent females and young adult women"
and what made me get to that conclusion was shaving my head
True. But I think for some of them, there is something else, too. Not going through the time consuming, painful and annoying, never-ending ritual of removing your body hair could be such a huge relief. The fact that you finally, finally stop doing this hated chore and don't think "oh my god, I have a bit of hair on my legs, everything will be disgusted by me because I'm a woman with hair on her legs!!" - this could be such a potent feeling of relief and power, it could be intoxicating. Sometimes women and teenage girls feel the same feeling when they cut their hair short, too. Finally, no more hours of taking care of this lump of dead cells to look presentable, what a relief. Add in "I'm not doing things for the male gaze anymore, I am doing things for myself" (expressing my true gender = taking care of myself), and you get a feeling of intense empowering. That is a really good feeling.
This is why I want to bang my head against a wall every time I read about some teenage girl or very young women saying "I shaved my head and I really like it, and that made me rethink my gender". You fucking idiot, most people, including teenage girls and women, don't like the hassle of taking care of long hair. The reason we don't all just shave our heads is because usually it is considered unattractive for girls and women, and nobody wants to be unattractive, especially when you are a girl/woman, because women and girls are judged on the basis of their attractiveness a lot.
Enjoying your shaved head, feeling empowered, feeling great relief, this is a natural response to deliberately not going through with the extreme beauty standards society put on women. Plus the natural relief of being freed from a time consuming chore. Same with not removing your body hair. That does not mean you are not a woman, you absolute moron. Women usually don't actually like doing this, they are doing this because they feel they have no real choice on the matter. You fucking moron.
"Gender identity" is just taking social expectations and stereotypes about women/girls and men/boys and internalize it. "I don't like this social expectation/stereotype about women, I don't feel connection to it - I must not be a woman then!" Regressive as fuck. I hate this shit so much.
A loathsome piece of shit woman seeks assurance that it is okay for her to transition even though her four year old daughter has developed severe anxiety about the prospect and doesn't want to let her mother out of her sight in case it happens.
Four years old is when people start to create concrete memories and have formative experiences. If she goes through with this, this little girl’s earliest memories will be her mother essentially killing herself by going through hormones and surgery, and dismissing her concerns as her being a whiny brat. This selfish cunt is establishing trust issues and early trauma for her young child by forcing her to endure this, all for a lie.
A loathsome piece of shit woman seeks assurance that it is okay for her to transition even though her four year old daughter has developed severe anxiety about the prospect and doesn't want to let her mother out of her sight in case it happens.
loathsome piece of shit woman seeks assurance that it is okay for her to transition even though her four year old daughter has developed severe anxiety about the prospect and doesn't want to let her mother out of her sight in case it happens.
That is fucking horrifying. That poor kid.
"A Mother is God in the eyes of a child" and this kids Mom is trying to gaslight her child into being happy her Mom is turning into Slaanesh.
It is unbelievably selfish for this fucking cunt to do that to her child, kids fucking four years old ffs, she doesn't want her Mom to become some weird frog voiced, smelly monster with acne and a beard the other kids will laugh at and bully her for.
She's uprooting and destroying this child's entire sense of stability and she knows it.
The selfishness on display here is sickening, she knows what she's doing is fucked up, that's why she's running to the other self centered degenerate pervert fucks on pReddit to give her asspats, she doesn't want advice, she knows those sick fucks will tell her she's more important than her child's mental health.
That kid shouldn't be anywhere near that sick fucking Poonerizing cunt. Where's the Father?
CPS is a fucking mess, it's 50/50 if the kid goes into care she won't end up molested.
This situation is so fucked.
This bitch should be ashamed of herself. What she is doing is evil and will have destructive effects on her child's outlook on life and ability to trust forever.
What a monster.
Some people don't deserve kids. Theres people who struggle to conceive that would be great parents and never get the chance then there are people like her that just waste it.
That is fucking horrifying. That poor kid.
"A Mother is God in the eyes of a child" and this kids Mom is trying to gaslight her child into being happy her Mom is turning into Slaanesh.
It is unbelievably selfish for this fucking cunt to do that to her child, kids fucking four years old ffs, she doesn't want her Mom to become some weird frog voiced, smelly monster with acne and a beard the other kids will laugh at and bully her for.
She's uprooting and destroying this child's entire sense of stability and she knows it.
The selfishness on display here is sickening, she knows what she's doing is fucked up, that's why she's running to the other self centered degenerate pervert fucks on pReddit to give her asspats, she doesn't want advice, she knows those sick fucks will tell her she's more important than her child's mental health.
The mother is the worst kind of moral reprobate. Her instincts tell her she is doing something wrong, but she does not want to listen to those instincts. That chorus of unconditional positive regard from other degenerate women she knows will be loud enough to drown out her lone Jiminy Cricket conscience.
That kid shouldn't be anywhere near that sick fucking Poonerizing cunt. Where's the Father?
CPS is a fucking mess, it's 50/50 if the kid goes into care she won't end up molested.
This situation is so fucked.
This bitch should be ashamed of herself. What she is doing is evil and will have destructive effects on her child's outlook on life and ability to trust forever.
What a monster.
Some people don't deserve kids. Theres people who struggle to conceive that would be great parents and never get the chance then there are people like her that just waste it.
Trans madness is ingrained in social work, so CPS would never remove a child just because her mother decided to affirm her own gender and traumatise the child. However, they might remove a child if a parent did not affirm that child's gender identity.
Send upon me your finest of tophats: in my opinion, trans parents of either sex are the most despicable trannies of all. Forcing their children to learn in crucial developmental stages not to trust their own eyes and instincts, they present a sexist, illogical world in which stereotypes are what define people - not actions - and that the answer to insecurity is mutilation. A horrible inheritance that spells a grim future for later generations, if one takes generational trauma seriously as a facet of familial abuse.
If you've had a child, you owe yourself to them, because they never once asked to be here, much less to be your child in particular. Yes, you're still permitted to be a person, but transgenderism as an ideology is so twisted and abusive that just to expose kids to it is honestly a cruelty in and of itself: little girls made to call perverted fathers "Mommy" and little boys who can no longer seek comfort from a mother because she's mutated herself into a facsimile of him is, innately, fucked up. This isn't even covering how other children and families will mock them or ostracize them for having aberrant freaks for parents, which would only worsen the psychological damage in a kid. Depressing stuff!
Anyway, time for some laughs: a pooner goes to an LGBT+ center and is upset that everyone sorts her into the T instead of respecting her identity as a real gay mayun. The "stealth" ones are my favorite, because something about a little garden gnome-ette squeaking out "I'm a real boy!" just amuses me endlessly. Link | Archive
Every time I go, I always get seen as a trans guy. I always get pushed to be more active and come by more often and go to all these trans events and groups. No matter how many times I've told the people I talk to normally that I'm stealth and extremely dysphoric about being seen as trans and reminded of my unfortunate birth circumstance. I had a bad day today and I'm so tired of my job, so I asked about what kind of jobs they have, and I was told I should volunteer to help with a trans day of visibility thing and I should apply specifically to the trans section of the center. I was even introduced to some people as a trans guy.
Why can nobody accept that I don't want people to know I was born without a penis!? Why do they not take no for an answer?
I literally just want to be a man. Full stop. Nothing else. No addatives. Nothing different. It's not fair t hat not only was I born with a fucked up body, but nobody, not transphobes, not allies, not other trans people, wants me to put it behind me and move on with my life. I am chained to this bullshit.
And it's not even like I'm not passing or something. They just knew me pre-transition, and I kept getting introduced as a trans man, and I came to them one time for help with a transition thing. Everyone there knows I'm trans because nobody understands stealth I guess :/
The FTM fixation on impregnating women genuinely leaves me unsettled, but I've never been able to quite pinpoint why. Something about the mockery of nature itself, or perhaps it's because I just think it's crazy for lesbians to be focused on something they do not have the ability to do whatsoever - I just find it creepy. Link | Archive
Hey everyone thanks for allowing me into the community group (I'm new to reddit been here >30 days and still learning). What products are out there that I can use for reproductive purposes with my partner? Ideally, I want something I can feel and actually... y'know, ejaculate. Please advise and I am open to discussion
A fucking virgin is thinking of getting a vaginectomy. Am I insane for thinking you should have sex at least once before being eligible for these kinds of procedures? There would be no way to verify a patient was telling the truth, but my God. Link | Archive
Hello, not sure how to phrase this. I'm pretty sure I want to go for phallo with UL and if I did UL I'd want to have a vaginectomy to reduce complications (trying to speedrun healing through school). I am a total virgin 0 experience in anything so I don't know what PiV feels like so I don't think I'd miss out on it but I don't want a total lack of future opportunity for sexual pleasure. My worry is that I'd be unable to do the do while being on the receiving/penetrated end and actually feel it. I know anal is an option but I heard its different for everyone and I don't know if it'll actually feel good for me or not, because again 0 experience in anything and I want 0 experience with a partner until I can get phallo done. Even without UL in mind I'd still want to go for a vaginectomy because I just don't want it and the butthole is an option too... but maybe the butthole isn't an option if it doesn't end up feeling good and I won't know until it's done because I'm not looking for a partner or having sex until it's done... without having ever tested anal or being able to test that kind of thing I don't know what to do or how to go about making this decision? (????) qwq help me out Does anyone have any input or can share their experiences? What do I do?
Guys ever since going on T my underwear smells so bad . It has gotten so far that people around me noticed it. Like yesterday I was just chilling when someone came in and said: damn it smells like rotten eggs in here (wrong kind of eggs buddy) what should I do? I already shower everyday, is there some kind of special dong deodorant?
Every time I go, I always get seen as a trans guy. I always get pushed to be more active and come by more often and go to all these trans events and groups. No matter how many times I've told the people I talk to normally that I'm stealth and extremely dysphoric about being seen as trans and reminded of my unfortunate birth circumstance. I had a bad day today and I'm so tired of my job, so I asked about what kind of jobs they have, and I was told I should volunteer to help with a trans day of visibility thing and I should apply specifically to the trans section of the center. I was even introduced to some people as a trans guy.
Why can nobody accept that I don't want people to know I was born without a penis!? Why do they not take no for an answer?
I literally just want to be a man.
Hey, misogynist clown, you weren't born with a fucked up body (though obviously your brain, at the moment, is quite fucked up). You were born with a female body, like about the 15 billion girls who have ever lived, and they didn't have fucked up bodies just by being female.
The absolute fucking gall for someone born (presumably) without an actual fucked up body, without some life-limiting congenital defect, to describe her body as fucked up.
I want her to go to one of those trans support circles where she complains about having a vagina and then getting told off by the jealous trans-identified males in the room for her insensitivity.
but nobody, not transphobes, not allies, not other trans people, wants me to put it behind me and move on with my life.
They just knew me pre-transition, and I kept getting introduced as a trans man, and I came to them one time for help with a transition thing. Everyone there knows I'm trans because nobody understands stealth I guess :/
Anyway, time for some laughs: a pooner goes to an LGBT+ center and is upset that everyone sorts her into the T instead of respecting her identity as a real gay mayun. The "stealth" ones are my favorite, because something about a little garden gnome-ette squeaking out "I'm a real boy!" just amuses me endlessly.
I was watching this video and I don't really know most of the people this guy is talking about as I don't follow that stuff, but this guy stuck out to me. Is this a pooner? A butch? A male? What is this, who is this?
Sorry if this is a stupid post. I'd be surprised if this is in fact a biological male.
Over on r/FTMMen, a heated debate arises: should transgender activists mention the foxes in the henhouses amongst them? The TiFs that reply say nay, which makes one question the integrity of their intentions if they're so insistent that their ruses remain intact. To share society with such willful con artists is chilling at times. Link | Archive
This has sprung out of a discussion I've had over and over with cis allies, "I know that the trans people you see online are out and proud, but not all of us are like that."
I feel that if these visibly trans activists (with a cis audience) would mention every once in a while that not every trans person is OK with being outed, and that out is not the default, then this would be more frequently avoided.
That being said, the fact that cis people often can't fathom trans people being stealth is also a sort of protection against some of the crazier transphobes in the world.
Thoughts?
[–]Educational_Turn8736
Please, no. The less they know, the safer we are. I don't want them to even think about us because then they will be more on the lookout for us and we won't be safe. I went stealth for safety, and I would be crushed if activists started mentioning us stealth men. I'm trying to fly under the radar. I don't want to die. Remember, knowledge is power. The more they know about us, the more ammunition they have to use against us.
You can say "please don't out trans people" without mentioning stealth men.
[–]ehhhchimatsu It's been infuriating enough how visible we've become the past few years. Now transphobes know what to "look for" - top surgery scars, the T voice, height differences, hell, I've seen them mention phallo arm/thigh scars. The more visible we become, the harder it is to remain stealth.
[–]Stealthftmmmmm
Imo no. There’s nothing stealth trans men can get from activism mentioning us that open trans men won’t. Also it can be a double edged sword at times, as in a lot more cis people knowing what top surgery. Stealth men also aren’t typically in a position where they have to tell a friend “hey don’t out me” because they’re stealth
As an elderly woman prepares to meet her maker in the wake of a lung cancer diagnosis, her wretched pooner granddaughter still finds a way to make everything all about her. Link | Archive
Possible Trigger warning for transphobia and mild mentions of violence and death.
My grandmother is reaching the end of her days, she has lung cancer and things aren’t looking too good for her. She grew up in a time where segregation was still acceptable and law and is very old fashioned to put it politely. She found out I started testosterone, told the entire family, and has said she’s afraid I will hurt my mother because trans people are “violent and unstable” due to hrt. I feel like I’m not allowed to say anything to her because well she’s dying. Everyone has always said “she’s old what do you expect” when it comes to my grandmothers problematic views and opinions. I wasn’t expecting her to accept me, but telling my business and accusing me of being violent crosses an entirely different line. In my mother’s defense, she did shut it down as soon as my grandmother decided to spout that nonsense but she could not stop her from telling everyone about my transition.
I guess I’m just at a loss of what to do, she’s dying I get it but that’s no excuse to disrespect me to such a severe level. If anyone else has been in a similar situation, please give some advice
A stealth TiF worries that if she takes a stand against twansfobia, then she will be properly identified as the female impostor she is and removed from the all-boys school that she works at. Those who enjoy frequenting the SRS thread will likely be amused to know this post is brought to you today by RedRockWulf, who we last saw with a really nasty looking glansplasty. Weird how getting a fake dick installed didn't give her any balls. Link | Archive
I moved to a new town I’ve always wanted to live in, where no one knows I’m trans.. I’ve made friends with quite a few people and love the area, nature, food and culture of the town.
The school is extremely right wing and as I’ve been here longer, professors / students have gotten comfortable with each other and nearly every professor I’ve had has managed to make some kind of trans joke.
Now, I’m not surprised at all by this, but I am surprised it’s bothering me a bit. To preface, I’ve been fully transitioned for a while and had thought I completely parted from my trans identity a while ago - especially since no one aside from my SO knows I’m trans. It’s not something I think about and since being fully transitioned, I don’t really see myself as trans, even though I know that’s what I am. Many of the comments are geared towards nonbinary and MTF people, but it still bothers me when it comes up and it makes me wonder how they’d treat me if I told them I was trans, especially the friends I’ve made.
I’m not new at being stealth, but when I’m in a room with a professor making these comments and everyone laughing about it, I get more on guard / edge. It’s a bit of a new feeling. Leaving the school or reporting the professor isn’t an option though. I really love where I am and the professors aside from the comments they make. It’s also a small community where if I say anything, it would 100% be brought back to me and potentially lead people to clocking me then getting kicked out since it’s an all boys school and trans people aren’t allowed.
Not really sure what I’m looking for, just wanted to vent. I haven’t been in touch with any LGBT community in a long time, but these experiences make me want to feel like I’d be accepted somewhere which feels strange to me since I thought I could convince myself that I don’t view myself as trans, but now I’m realizing even if I’m stealth, I guess I want to be accepted where I am.
Posting here in case it gets taken down or something, the most horrifying part in all this is how she mentions taking off with her KID. She has a CHILD and is acting like this.
Prayed to God this was a troll, but I don't think it is. Here's her top surgery.
Despite having a kid somehow, she's apparently a lesbian. So a BPD bifoid confirmed.
I could give her the benefit of the doubt and say she probably realized she didn't like men until after it was too late, ie accidentally getting pregnant. But I doubt it.
Overcompensating Pooners are always hilarious.
They always seem to think "manly" means being a hyperaggressive asshole.
She needs to be careful because if she tries that shit to the wrong guy its a matter of time before she gets absolutely rocked.
She might feel like a "manly trans dad" (lol) but she's still a female.
Trying to fucking square up to dudes like she's a fucking shit kicker is gonna get her in trouble. I worry about her kid. If she really was a man she'd fucking know better than trying to start shit when she has her kid with her because some dudes don't give a fuck, and the last thing that poor kid needs is to see her wierd, angry Mom getting stomped out.
Jumping counters because people are laughing at her when she has her kid with her ffs.
Bitch, be so for real. You weren't born female in China in the 1980s, in Africa or an Arab country at any time in history, or into a brothel in Kolkata. You don't have cerebral palsy or a terminal genetic condition and aren't physically disabled. You didn't get trapped in your mom's vagina during birth and stuck there deprived of oxygen for three days while she yelled at your dad not to dare take her to the hospital, therefore your brain didn't immediately turn into a wheel of necrotic Swiss cheese filled with fluid that is constantly pushing at the boundaries of your disintegrating skull as your ghoulish mother parades your braindead near-corpse for morbid social media asspats.
You were just born a woman. That's okay.
Especially since it's 2025, and at least in the western world, we have a lot of options to live full lives of our own choosing without needing to pretend we are actually men.
So trans “dad” has no biological ties to the kid. She’s not the mom and obviously not the father. Of course new boyfriend (and hopefully mom) wants to keep this mentally ill woman away from their kid.
. It has gotten so far that people around me noticed it. Like yesterday I was just chilling when someone came in and said: damn it smells like rotten eggs in here (wrong kind of eggs buddy) what should I do? I already shower everyday, is there some kind of special dong deodorant?
