The Tenacious Unicorn Ranch / @TenaciousRanch / Steampunk Penny / Penellope Logue / Phillip Matthew Logue - Don't cry because it ended, laugh because it's still getting worse.

[HackerX]

Schizo theory: she went inpatient so she'd eventually start having benzo withdrawal seizures - but just neglected to inform them she just stopped benzos.

That would be some prime real estate of her brain taken up by some bizarre Machiavellian thinking.

I'm ready and willing to believe.

 

[0 0]

I'm sorry but even to this day, I can't get over this.

The tranchers brag about unity, sexual freedoms within their polycule, how being trans is the future of humanity. And then it collapsed from within. Solely because a real live woman showed up and they all were tripping over each other to sleep with her first like a gaggle of nerds in a road trip comedy movie.

And, through coincidence alone, it was the alpha nerd, the owner of the tranch, who won the race. Envy spreads across the others who didn't get a whiff of fresh, natal womanhood despite all their posturing of the superiority of the trans perfection, and tempers rise. Seeing this woman as tainted goods, they put up with her nonsense not a second longer and exhile her along with the nerd who scored but forgot that he's the one calling the shots, deciding to later take petty revenge against them by shutting down the tranch entirely out of spite alone.

The tranchers don't make great women, but they fail at being men, too, since they broke the ultimate man code: xisters before sisters. There was a comparison that the trans panic is to nerds today what crack cocaine was to inner cities in the 80's. This whole ordeal goes to show that while they're jabbing synthetic estrogen into their veins and parading about in dresses two sizes off, they're still nerds at their core and fall victim to the same trappings inherent in their nerd DNA: a profound weakness to even the lowest quality woman within eyeshot.

 

[AfghanBlue]

brother man that shit saps your testostorone regardless. even if you had a nurse giving you the right dose with narcan there to resuscitate you!

ah yeah that's true.
I'm not sure what the score is regarding that, for women.
if it messes with your hormone levels, I guess it will tweak them a little anyway, as women need testosterone a little too.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I'm sorry but even to this day, I can't get over this.

tl;dr

 

[S.C.U.D.]

tl;dr
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Using the term "beauty" very loosely, I see.

 

[AprilRains]

Using the term "beauty" very loosely, I see.

She wasn't bad before her goblinification.

 

[FinnSven]

I can't think of anything other than acute antifreeze poisoning, is there any ongoing legit uses for it? Or do you mean like self-medicate pstd?

Self medicating PTSD, social anxiety (most common widespread use), depression (ill advised but people do it), basically loads of fairly mild things which sensible behavior can resolve or help, but alcohol can be a shortcut.

Other than acute antifreeze poisoning, the only thing I can think of is once an alcoholic has become so dependent, the DTs and cold turkey can actually kill them.

However, a strong argument that such a condition is caused by alcohol in the first place and so doesn’t count can easily be made.

But then there is the comparison of weed and weed induced schizophrenia.

Anyway, Kevvie and the gang should really have put in some back breaking labor and then eventually allowed themselves some drugs, not put in some serious dedicated drug taking followed by reluctant work.

 

[HackerX]

I'm sorry but even to this day, I can't get over this.

The tranchers brag about unity, sexual freedoms within their polycule, how being trans is the future of humanity. And then it collapsed from within. Solely because a real live woman showed up and they all were tripping over each other to sleep with her first like a gaggle of nerds in a road trip comedy movie.

And, through coincidence alone, it was the alpha nerd, the owner of the tranch, who won the race. Envy spreads across the others who didn't get a whiff of fresh, natal womanhood despite all their posturing of the superiority of the trans perfection, and tempers rise. Seeing this woman as tainted goods, they put up with her nonsense not a second longer and exhile her along with the nerd who scored but forgot that he's the one calling the shots, deciding to later take petty revenge against them by shutting down the tranch entirely out of spite alone.

The tranchers don't make great women, but they fail at being men, too, since they broke the ultimate man code: xisters before sisters. There was a comparison that the trans panic is to nerds today what crack cocaine was to inner cities in the 80's. This whole ordeal goes to show that while they're jabbing synthetic estrogen into their veins and parading about in dresses two sizes off, they're still nerds at their core and fall victim to the same trappings inherent in their nerd DNA: a profound weakness to even the lowest quality woman within eyeshot.

I remember watching that plotline become reality from the beginning. The most obvious, yet fucking hilarious, end to the Tranch.

 

[Law]

Smack is unironically less bad on the body than weed. Apart from how addictive it is- if you could theoretically get an unimpeded supply, so u don’t have to deal with withdrawal-say a lifelong opiate prescription- you wil find the actual chemical that is diamorphine doesn’t really do anything negative.

It causes respiratory depression. Long-term users get that raspy, croaky voice because of it.
Plus you can't lethally overdose on weed like you can on opioids.

Doctors are leery of issuing pain med prescriptions to fucked up weirdos these days. There will always be Dr. Feelgoods out there, but most docs will take one look at these guys and think "drug seekers, must avoid".

Unless the drugs they're seeking are synthetic hormones, breast implants, and amholeification. Then the customer is always right.

The tranchers brag about unity, sexual freedoms within their polycule, how being trans is the future of humanity. And then it collapsed from within. Solely because a real live woman showed up

TERF Queen Alyssa has the new high score. Step your game, J.K. Rowling.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Smack is unironically less bad on the body than weed. Apart from how addictive it is- if you could theoretically get an unimpeded supply, so u don’t have to deal with withdrawal-say a lifelong opiate prescription- you wil find the actual chemical that is diamorphine doesn’t really do anything negative.
Unlike weed which makes you schizophrenic paranoid.
Route of administration is equally prone to heath damage in both cases.
Smoking either will hurt your lungs. Other means are fine.

How about chronic constipation that at times results in you going to shit like 3 times/month? You know what that does to your bowels? I do, cause I see them on Xrays lmao.
Now, add to that endless supply, so you don't get the diarrhea when you're off the opiate.
Add to this the unrealistic expectations that your gear will be clean and sterile, and your high will always be moderate enough that you're not gonna mess up your IVs.
Because you WILL mainline, as it's the only path that gives you the desired rush, and as tolerance increases (and it will increase tremendously with endless supply), you will want it delivered directly in the bloodstream.
How about damaging your veins from repeated, multiple injections each day? You'll run out of veins in the arms in merely a year. You'll get to legs, neck, and you'll be out of everything soon enough.
How about the damage to your mental health? You'll be lacking emotions and living in an eternal cocoon of numbness. Those around you will perceive you as a vegetable.
You will neglect sports and healthy food. Your body will be in disarray. You will suffer from renal and hepatic impairment in time. Your muscles will atrophy. Your pupils will forever be pinpoints of miosis. You will be itching almost all the time, and won't be able to urinate for many hours.

 

[glass_houses]

I'm sorry but even to this day, I can't get over this.

The tranchers brag about unity, sexual freedoms within their polycule, how being trans is the future of humanity. And then it collapsed from within. Solely because a real live woman showed up and they all were tripping over each other to sleep with her first like a gaggle of nerds in a road trip comedy movie.

She might have been the catalyst for the ending, but they absolutely would have ended in exactly the same manner eventually. Infighting, bludging, high levels of pointless consooming against a business making a loss, hoarding of both animals and plastic tat, paranoid fantasies, sexual deviancy, more personality disorders than you can shake a DSM at, certain individual's obcessive need to control others, vast quantities of chemicals both legal and illicit, freedom fighter militia larping, and above all, a lot of very mentally unstable people crammed together in a very small space, with nothing to do except watch alpacas starve and Kevin dilate.

The Tranch was always going to crash and burn spectacularly. That's maybe part of the reason Bonnie latched onto Alyssa so hard and fast, he wanted an excuse to leave town before he ended up in a gunfight with Penny.

 

[AnOminous]

I guarantee you that the article for Trump sites his social media posts. It doesn't matter that he used a cellphone and an app to say it, they're still his words. He's a primary source. Again, citing his posts is not an endorsement of whatever he's saying, it's just pointing out that he said a thing, and here's where he said it.

They actually don't cite any tweets directly. They're all from "reliable sources" writing stories about his every single tweet. After all, virtually everything he said got endless hand-wringing from the fake news.

The Tranch was always going to crash and burn spectacularly.

As we all said from day one. The Farms never loses.

But you know what is an immediate mood upper? Meth.

It's probably Adderall. She's been munching at ADHD.

 

[Oxyjen]

The Tranch was always going to crash and burn spectacularly. That's maybe part of the reason Bonnie latched onto Alyssa so hard and fast, he wanted an excuse to leave town before he ended up in a gunfight with Penny.

How much of the deciding factor for Bonnie was that they banned him from wearing his gun inside the house, after he accidentally shot a hole in the dome?
Muh heckin 2nd amendment rights!

 

[Temperance]

More Wikipedia stuff.

Someone tried to make some good-faith edits, but both of their edits were reverted within a minute for no explained reason. No wonder people usually quickly give up on editing Wikipedia...
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tenacious_Unicorn_Ranch&action=history


Someone else added disclaimers about the Tranch website & official twitter account being privated, and these edits have manged to stay up.



Yesterday, another person undid a previous reversion to restore the info about the Tranchers being evicted. It's currently still up, but we'll see how long that lasts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_Unicorn_Ranch

They cited a tweet from the official Tranch twitter account and brought up the "WPRIMARY" rule that allows it. Who knows if it will actually be effective though.

Something else interesting... The Tranch article's talk page had previously been dead since 2021, but someone left a couple new comments a few days ago. Most notably, they replied to an old comment from GorillaWarfare (Molly White), so she might get involved soon.

Going to have to agree with 98 here, we have no idea whether these threats are legitimate or a falsification if the only account we have is members of the Tenacious Ranch itself, not even a police report confirming that they're under threat. GorillaWarfare, I'd ask you to please consider this a possibility instead of writing it off as nothing. It makes it seem like you're being biased in this situation. 199.58.83.11 (talk) 12:54, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome to personally doubt the veracity, that's your own opinion and you're obviously entitled to it. But unless reliable sources introduce doubt as to the veracity (and no sources in this article do, nor have I been able to find any that aren't yet used here that do), we report it as a simple statement of fact. If you have these sources, feel free to suggest them. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 15:19, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

As 98.227.21.14 has stated multiple times, the news article you are citing clearly DOES NOT substantiate the claim you are making. The burden is on YOU to prove it is true by citing the news article. If someone claims to see a leprechaun, and the local news reports on it as "man claims to see leprechaun". Should wikipedia be able to cite this as "man sees leprechaun" unless someone can find evidence that leprechauns don't exist? Of course not. Furthermore, you are muddling the situation by confusing "online harrasement" (which is more nebulous, but is substantiated by Reuters) and actual harassment (which is the point of contention).

This is clearly wrong and you are publishing misinformation. You are creating a "circular reporting"-type of situation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reporting). This is why people don't trust wikipedia anymore on issues that are even vaguely social or political. Now, I do not have a personal grudge against transgender people, but am I supposed to believe that it is merely a coincidence that a transgender person would go out of their way to editorialize articles with a pro-transgender slant?

To be fair, the existence of is whole situation is embarrassing and perhaps a stain on the public perception of transgender people. But if your goal is to improve that image, then this shouldn't even be an article in the first place. Who cares about this random farm of weirdos in the middle of nowhere? The reason is that there is a certain right-wing site that has decided to make spectacle out of these people. So of course, reactionaries must leap to correct the all-important "facts" about this very important group of nobodies who have apparently been unanimously nominated to represent transgender people in the public eye!

What you choose to discuss and what you choose not to discuss is the greatest source of bias. I can't help but notice there isn't an entire section on the allegations of animal abuse that (may?) have taken place this farm, seeing as they are about as relevant and substantiated as the existence of right-wing terrorists that are being cited.

The type of normal, sane people who are able to write neutral articles don't have time to deal with this type of stuff. This is why Wikipedia is a boon for the neurotic nerds of the world who want to re-write the facts in their favor. I hope you are banned from this website, but this will likely never happen because you academic types have a stranglehold on wikipedia's bureaucracy, which is why you are able to passive-aggressively bully others into conceding all the time.

Please have some respect for the readers, and the truth. 2605:AD80:AF:A005B7A:2259:3FB7:578 (talk) 22:42, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

It's funny because this new person criticizes Molly for her biased editing and defense of the Tranch's outlandish claims, and this new person doesn't appear to be a KFer or even a transphobe. In fact, they seem to be a liberal who's embarrassed about the Tranchers damaging the credibility/reputation of the trans community online.

This line makes me think they'd prefer the Tranch article to be deleted entirely for notability reason, which would be a neat way of memory-holing the Tranch disaster, tbh:

Who cares about this random farm of weirdos in the middle of nowhere?

This actually tracks pretty well with what I've seen on Twitter & Reddit. There's definitely an undercurrent of resentment/irritability among lefties & troons who know the Tranch was a disaster, but they feel pressured to stay silent and ignore it. You can't criticize troons without risking becoming a pariah in the community.
A big part of that resentment is from people who are bitter that the Tranch sucked up so much media attention and grift / "mutual aid" money that could have gone to more deserving troons or projects. Understandable.

 

[Temperance]

I saw that Robert Evans and Paul Liistro have been attacking Jesse Singal on twitter.

• Robert Evans is a journalist who runs the It Could Happen Here podcast, which did a four-part special last year glorifying the Tranch and spreading lies about the Tranch "siege". Apparently Evans used to do war zone reporting in the Middle East, but nowadays he's a schizo anarchist who thinks there's an imminent genocide by fascists just over the horizon.
• Paul Liistro is the extremely suspicious "former fed" who now claims to be an anarchist, literally makes bombs for a living, and is close friends with the Tranchers.
• Jesse Singal is, of course, one of the journalists who runs Blocked and Reported, the podcast which just recently criticized the Tranch. Singal is widely hated by troons and anarchists, despite being a leftist himself.

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• TracingWoodgrains is a gay furry and a Blocked and Reported employee. He apparently did most of the info-collection work for the Tranch episode.

In the screenshot above, TracingWoodgrains is pissed that his work on the episode is being dismissed as "based off a kiwifarms hate thread", and he also calls out Robert Evans (@IwriteOK) for his Tranch hagiography (the four-part special I mentioned earlier).

Paul Liistro's response to this is kinda funny. He's a huge douchebag who can only argue in bad faith.

Starts off by calling TracingWoodgrains awful. TWg asks if Paul has any actual disputes/critiques with the BAR episode about the Tranch. Paul mentions that he pirated the episode (), but he would have to listen to it again to critique it. Apparently he can't think of any info in the episode he disagrees with off the top of his head? Even though the episode came out less than a week ago? Sure, buddy.
So Paul dodges the question of what he disagrees with, and he also asks TWg for a transcript of the episode and TWg's personal notes on it. TWg replies saying it's a free episode that includes show notes on the website, and he also spoonfeeds Paul with a tool to grab a transcript of the episode.


It continues. Paul again brings up how he pirated the episode, just to be a dick, I guess. Paul makes more demands of TWg before he will deign to offer any critique. TWg is unimpressed but still wants to know what Paul disagrees with (aside from how BAR talked to Bonnie). Paul promises to respond later () with his critiques, but still insists that the episode had "extraordinarily bad research" and that Bonnie is a bad source.
...but somehow Paul can't name a single thing in the episode that was wrong. How curious!


This is the last bit. Paul basically argues like a Redditor.
Always in bad faith, always making demands, wanting to be spoonfed, attacking the other person's sources rather than the actual argument, and refusing to just speak plainly.

Robert Evans also made a single response in this twitter thread:

This is referring to the It Could Happen Here podcast episodes on the Tranch. Apparently Evans wasn't involved in those episodes - it was James Stout and Hungrybowtie who interviewed the Tranchers. But then that just raises the question of why Robert Evans is suddenly attacking Jesse Singal... LOL, obviously Evans was involved, and now he's mad that he has egg on his face since the Tranch collapsed less than a year after Evans' podcast prominently featured & praised the Tranch.

If Robert Evans had any journalistic integrity, he would write an update piece on the Tranch. Or at least he should address the issue in some way... but no, he hasn't done anything like this.
Someone called him out on it, but he ignored it:
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[Temperance]

My bad, there was actually more to the argument between Paul Liistro and TracingWoodgrains. [I hate how Twitter threads work... easy to miss stuff.]

TracingWoodgrains kinda foolishly allowed himself to be interrogated, but the best that Paul Liistro could do is "clarify" that Harlequin (aka Wedge) wasn't a Tranch resident - merely a frequent visitor and one of Kevin's lovers. That still doesn't cast any doubt on Wedge's claim that he was threatened by Penny. And Paul still hasn't said what information he believes Blocked and Reported got wrong. As TWg said, they're just reporting on Bonnie's claims, and they tried reaching out to Penny & co, but the Tranchers haven't responded.

There's also more arguing going on as I type this.

(Holy shit, these guys are pathetic...)

Spoiler: Some archives

https://archive.ph/rRoaY
https://archive.ph/AFEBB
https://archive.ph/IIdCN

This tweet by Robert Evans is especially thunk-full:

One of his reporters was present at the siege? The only person who supposedly witnessed the "fascists" trying to trespass on the Tranch was the mysterious Aldo:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-t...gue-phillip-matthew-logue.86681/post-15288546
Is Robert Evans saying that Aldo is his employee/reporter?
Also, for the record, Paul Liistro wasn't at the Tranch during the siege. He showed up like two weeks afterward.
Paul Liistro and Aldo are also close associates, btw. See this KF post from 2021:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-t...ogue-phillip-matthew-logue.86681/post-8598827
It sounds like they were selling weapons to the Tranchers.

 

[Oxyjen]

There’s definitely a close connection between those guys, and they’re very concerned about any info coming out that breaks their fictional portrayal of the Tranch. Or exposes crimes they’re complicit in, or both.

He, Paulho and that podcast guy are in this up to their fucking necks though, I know that much.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

A big part of that resentment is from people who are bitter that the Tranch sucked up so much media attention and grift / "mutual aid" money that could have gone to more deserving troons or projects. Understandable.

So it's not that the attempted commune was a failure, or that the New Zealand Bird Enthusiasts were right again. It's that they, personally, didn't get the thousands of dollars and fawning attention that the Tranchers got.

 

[Law]

this new person doesn't appear to be a KFer or even a transphobe.

Yet.

 

[HackerX]

How much of the deciding factor for Bonnie was that they banned him from wearing his gun inside the house, after he accidentally shot a hole in the dome?
Muh heckin 2nd amendment rights!

I'm still in absolutely aww of this part.

One side makes it seem Bonnie may have done it on purpose to fuck with Penny.

The other side implies it was just a ND from a dude who was sitting on the john.

Either take is beyond me, because it means Bonnie was literally playing around with his gun in the background. There is no way to tell this story without coming off as insane and ridiculous.