The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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DickoTheClown said:
I wouldn't consider it an investor scam to compromise the kernel so that it can be installed on machines it really shouldn't be so they can make those numbers go up. Wildly irresponsible, yes (and it did end up bricking some end user machines), but investor scam, not really. It's not the boring answer of "Proctor & Gamble demanded it" but the even more boring answer of "we want to have good numbers and will make bad decisions about our product to do so" (so, par for the course for Big Tech). Most people aren't tech literate enough to understand what Microsoft is doing - they just see Win11 is suddenly compatible with their machine, think "MS must have fixed it" and install it.

As far as everything else you said, yeah, those are good points that I'm not even going to dispute lol.
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The number of poorfags with old computers who are savvy enough to run the workarounds needed to install Win 11 (grandmas just see the "no you cannot upgrade" message and continue playing Solitaire and watching cat videos on Win 10) on an old machine and who insist on Win 11 is one of those rounding-error-of-a-rounding-error miniscule slivers of a market that doesn't affect your numbers one way or the other. More likely is one of their big enterprise customers said, "We're upgrading the site to Windows 11. We have 100 Cascade Lake generation Xeon-W workstations that we're not going to replace for 2 years yet, because those machines cost twenty fucking thousand dollars to replace, and insist that you provide a way to run Windows 11 on them or we will just keep the other 10,000 computers we have on Windows 10 until we refresh them." Enough large customers saying something like that, and Microsoft builds an exception into the OS just for them.
 
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Jace on ice said:
Like 90% of Microsoft's revenue is Enterprise shit for corpos. The wants and concerns of individual consumers probably isn't even on their radar.
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The vast majority of consumers obtain Windows through OEM licenses. They're not even the primary buyers. Microsoft doesn't really care what they think; they care what Lenovo, HP and Dell think.

They're cramming AI into everything because of pure FOMO. I don't think people in general understand how irrational and panicked AI has made your typical corporate C-suite & board room. We've got the winning combination for setting piles of capital on fire:
  • Almost nobody understands what AI does
  • Almost nobody has any idea what AI is good for
  • They're all certain AI is the next big thing
  • They all see that AI made NVIDIA a trillion-dollar company
  • They're all terrified that if they don't make big investments in AI NOW NOW NOW, they'll be out of business in 5 years
If you want a peek into the panic, look at Google's AI-"enhanced" search, where your search results are now pushed down half a page as you wait for a GPU somewhere to write out an incorrect summary of them that you could have gleaned yourself by reading the two-line teasers under each link. It's not just that the feature is broken shit. When has Google ever unrolled a new feature to Search that was this broken? This is far worse than any of their algorithm tweaks. It just outright doesn't work correctly. They're panicking.
 
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Baraka Obama said:
My main Windows XP box is a Sandy Bridge era dell SFF I got for next to nothing, and then added a half height GTX 750ti and a cheap SSD. I has all the ports, has native support & drivers still on Dell's website, boots in like 10 seconds, and nothing ever goes wrong with it.

I don't get why anyone uses VMs, they are miserable.
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They're fine for anything that doesn't require a GPU to function properly - I was able to run iTunes in a virtual machine just fine - but trying to run anything that uses a GPU is infuriating.

I'm rebuilding a newer Dell SFF PC for a similar purpose, since while I was able to get the Sims games themselves running on Linux their mod creation tools are a whole other kettle of fish and seem to only want to work on an actual Windows machine. Will probably also go for the half height 750ti as well. I'm going to put Windows 7 on it though, since if I'm making an actual windows machine I might as well put iTunes on there so I can free up the space the VM is taking up on my main PC, and I wasn't able to log in to my account when I tried running an ancient version of iTunes on an XP virtual machine (the Win7 version still works though).

Have you seen those listings for brand new hot pink low profile 750tis?
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I'm like 90% sure this is some kind of scam, but then again chinese sweatshops do sometimes make obsolete hardware for third world countries that can't afford the good stuff. I managed to find a brand new battery for my late 2000s HP mini netbook on Aliexpress. If I'm gonna get a hot pink GPU though, I'd rather it be the Hello Kitty 980ti (with matching motherboard!).
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Baraka Obama said:
My main Windows XP box is a Sandy Bridge era dell SFF I got for next to nothing, and then added a half height GTX 750ti and a cheap SSD. I has all the ports, has native support & drivers still on Dell's website, boots in like 10 seconds, and nothing ever goes wrong with it.

I don't get why anyone uses VMs, they are miserable.
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VMware workstation is free for private use, and it works really well. Plug and play.
 
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Elysian said:
They're fine for anything that doesn't require a GPU to function properly - I was able to run iTunes in a virtual machine just fine - but trying to run anything that uses a GPU is infuriating.
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You can partition datacenter GPUs and assign fractions of them to VMs. Only problem is the ones that aren't eye-wateringly expensive are also out of support for new drivers.
 
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Elysian said:
Will probably also go for the half height 750ti as well. I'm going to put Windows 7 on it though,
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Consider the Quadro P1000 4GB. It is similar to a GTX 1050 with more RAM and is easy to find half height.

If you havent bought yet there are good deals for Coffee Lake era hardware right now and that natively supports Win7. The Precision 3430 for example.
Kuroyuri said:
VMware workstation is free for private use, and it works really well. Plug and play.
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It kinda works, as long as you accept input lag or don't want to play games, and don't need to use any external stuff. Even passing through USB I have had issues.
 
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Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Not really if you modify the Windows ISO when you install it. If it's a prebuilt I'd prep an ISO and install your own version of windows over whatever your builder put on it. That will also remove all the pre-built bloatware.
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Its a laptop, so I guess that makes it a prebuilt in a way. It just arrived so I'll see about the ISO and such.

The Ugly One said:
It's fine after you disable the rainbow flag by removing the poz-feed:
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Thanks for the tip, I wouldn't want news on my task bar anyway.
 
Fcret said:
You speak as if .exe is a universal way to install shit except it isn't. There's hundreds of different little installation frameworks behind the scenes and Windows continues to have a problem with uninstalling things because the install process for applications is so inconsistent.

You don't want a single, universal way to install things but instead a variety of mechanisms that hide the complexity of the install process from you. Most Linux distros have had that since the 00s.
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What about linkin park numb.exe
 
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My dad is having a heart surgery tomorrow and is going to be bedridden for a while.

He wanted to buy himself a laptop, so he can entertain himself with writing short stories and playing chess. I told him "sure, dad, buy yourself an old ThinkPad and I'll set it up for you".

He bought himself an old ThinkPad, alright. I thought he was going to get a X220 or something like that, but it turns out he wasn't willing to spend more than $15.

He got an 11e. The shitbooks they used to give to Australian school children. It's fucking miserable. Core M at barely (maybe) 1 Ghz.

It's way too underpowered to run Windows 7 smoothly and way too new for XP. XP straight up does not want to install.

What the fuck do I put on it? What is the lightest, debloatest possible version of 7 that's in existence? Or an XP that runs on post 2015 hardware? Some autist should have made something like this, surely?

Sure, if push comes to shove I can always try Linux Mint, but I don't want my dad to express a desire to cut his cock off and call himself Susan.
 
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Whitney Houston On Crack said:
Sure, if push comes to shove I can always try Linux Mint, but I don't want my dad to express a desire to cut his cock off and call himself Susan.
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Then he'll have to suffer with barely working Win7 if you're so stuck-up you refuse to put Mint on it where LibreOffice and whichever most popular FOSS chess and solitaire game is on the app store is too dirty for you. Or keep trying to install Windows XP on it out of some ideological retardation. You'd be doing yourself and your dad a favor with Mint, but you do you.
 
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Whitney Houston On Crack said:
My dad is having a heart surgery tomorrow and is going to be bedridden for a while.

He wanted to buy himself a laptop, so he can entertain himself with writing short stories and playing chess. I told him "sure, dad, buy yourself an old ThinkPad and I'll set it up for you".

He bought himself an old ThinkPad, alright. I thought he was going to get a X220 or something like that, but it turns out he wasn't willing to spend more than $15.

He got an 11e. The shitbooks they used to give to Australian school children. It's fucking miserable. Core M at barely (maybe) 1 Ghz.

It's way too underpowered to run Windows 7 smoothly and way too new for XP. XP straight up does not want to install.

What the fuck do I put on it? What is the lightest, debloatest possible version of 7 that's in existence? Or an XP that runs on post 2015 hardware? Some autist should have made something like this, surely?

Sure, if push comes to shove I can always try Linux Mint, but I don't want my dad to express a desire to cut his cock off and call himself Susan.
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Suppose you could try Tiny7 if it absolutely has to be Windows. But I second just trying Linux.
 
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Jang Joo said:
Suppose you could try Tiny7 if it absolutely has to be Windows. But I second just trying Linux.
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Tiny7 was exactly what I was looking for. Boots quick, it's snappy and responsive. It's only 32 bits, but who gives a shit, Word 2007 and Chessmaster 10 run flawlessly. Thank you very much!
 
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How does one Ol' Yeller Windows Update for 11? It's waking a laptop even when it's unplugged, killing my batteries. This seemed to work yesterday but when I went to turn on the machine today it updated. Although I'm not 100% sure it wasn't because it was already losing its shit because it didn't update a couple weeks ago because it'd already killed the battery.

If you're going to tell me I need these updates, you are the worst kind of niggercattle and should join the other Windows ball-clingers on Reddit or the Windows forums.
 
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