The Windows OS Thread - Formerly THE OS for gamers and normies, now sadly ruined by Pajeets

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Betonhaus said:
Not to mention that Microsoft is now a pajeet company and pajeets respect scammers more than people who follow the rules, so they will likely leave those using activator scripts alone.
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Letting people use pirated Windows so that they become dependent on it was Microsoft's MO back when Billy G ran the show and Windows 95 was their flagship product. Going "muh jeets" here just reeks of ignorance and overdosing on the modern day online cyanide.
 
Windows just refuses to stay asleep, doesn't it? I'll put it to sleep and walk away, and when I'm back again my rgb keyboard and mouse are on and the computer lights say it's awake
 
Betonhaus said:
I don't think you can even permanently activate windows with a random key, not since Windows 7. Every version after that phones the Microsoft servers to submit a fingerprint of the computer, and if it doesn't match the one submitted before the activation gets invalidated and requires manual intervention
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There are ways around this using a generic key.

Betonhaus said:
Windows just refuses to stay asleep, doesn't it? I'll put it to sleep and walk away, and when I'm back again my rgb keyboard and mouse are on and the computer lights say it's awake
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Check Power Options. In the power plans, there is a line where it allows wake timers. Turn that off.
 
Get Phobo said:
There are ways around this using a generic key.
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Can you provide a source for that? All the sources i can find say that the generic keys are only for the installation process and will not permanently activate Windows. If there was some super secret generic key that permanently activated it then everyone would be using it instead of massgrave

Check Power Options. In the power plans, there is a line where it allows wake timers. Turn that off.
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Oh thanks I turned that off, and it seems that the last was was due to the ethernet port so i disabled wake on lan. Hopefully that helps otherwise i'll go back to Mint as this is a bedroom PC and having all the lights going is annoying.
 
Betonhaus said:
Can you provide a source for that? All the sources i can find say that the generic keys are only for the installation process and will not permanently activate Windows. If there was some super secret generic key that permanently activated it then everyone would be using it instead of massgrave
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Massgrave actually is the source here. It's possible that not all cases are covered, just specific ones.

Betonhaus said:
Oh thanks I turned that off, and it seems that the last was was due to the ethernet port so i disabled wake on lan. Hopefully that helps otherwise i'll go back to Mint as this is a bedroom PC and having all the lights going is annoying.
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IIRC, Wake on LAN should happen on a Magic Packet only, but go ahead and turn off whatever you can. A PC on standby shouldn't keep all kinds of devices powered.
 
Get Phobo said:
Massgrave actually is the source here. It's possible that not all cases are covered, just specific ones.
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Are you referring to the manual hwid activation? there's a corresponding ticket file you have to download and move to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket, it's not just the key itself
 
Betonhaus said:
Are you referring to the manual hwid activation? there's a corresponding ticket file you have to download and move to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket, it's not just the key itself
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Yes, and it works using a generic activation key where the source is the Microsoft website itself. That's what I meant. Of course, this may be just as illegal as KMS38 and whathaveyou.
 
Get Phobo said:
Yes, and it works using a generic activation key where the source is the Microsoft website itself. That's what I meant. Of course, this may be just as illegal as KMS38 and whathaveyou.
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Still the ticket file is the important bit needed to prevent the computer from eventually de-activating itself.
 
Tremolo said:
I do have to wonder if they'll do anything at all if a non-significant amount of people switch to iot ltsc post W10 EOS though
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They won't because nobody gives a shit the esoterica weirdos on the internet cry about.

Normies don't care:
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Gamers don't care (Win 10 usage was at 70% in 2022):
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I don't know where anyone gets the belief that there are millions and millions of people who refuse to use a computer that requires internet access, an account signup, and is loaded down with telemetry when the majority of all computing devices are either Android are iOS.

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It's not that Microsoft is a wonderful company, it's that nobody actually cares about this non-issue that has nerd forums shitting their pants. And Microsoft definitely doesn't care if people who used to pirate Windows Home start pirating Windows IoT instead. That doesn't actually change their bottom line at all.

Betonhaus said:
Windows just refuses to stay asleep, doesn't it? I'll put it to sleep and walk away, and when I'm back again my rgb keyboard and mouse are on and the computer lights say it's awake
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I know my gay-ass RGB speaker bar will cause Windows to wake up. There are way too many things that make your computer refuse to go the fuck to sleep.
 
The Ugly One said:
It's not that Microsoft is a wonderful company, it's that nobody actually cares about this non-issue that has nerd forums shitting their pants. And Microsoft definitely doesn't care if people who used to pirate Windows Home start pirating Windows IoT instead. That doesn't actually change their bottom line at all
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When Windows 7 was end of life it only had 10% marketshare right? 10 still has 40%
 
Betonhaus said:
When Windows 7 was end of life it only had 10% marketshare right? 10 still has 40%
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There's also another side of that coin: by the time Windows 7 was EOL, Windows 10 was a completely different beast from 7 and most software already dropped support for 7. In this case, the differences "under the hood" between 10 and 11 aren't nearly as big, so there wasn't a major incentive for people to switch, and nothing is a bigger incentive than your shit no longer working.

Add that on top of other reasons why Microsoft bumblefucked the 10 to 11 transition period, like making 11 just a shittier 10 not giving a valid reason to "upgrade", coming up with Recall then tripling down on it after backlash because screaming "AI" to investors short term is more important than making your customers trust your products long term, retarded arbitrary hardware requirements that boil down to "we force TPM 2.0 because lol buy a new PC" and the list goes on.

I don't think it's malice. I think that at this point Microsoft is a headless chicken, running around aimlessly. Everything is completely arbitrary and makes no sense as long as the board of directors sees the green line go up.
 
Betonhaus said:
I don't think you can even permanently activate windows with a random key, not since Windows 7. Every version after that phones the Microsoft servers to submit a fingerprint of the computer, and if it doesn't match the one submitted before the activation gets invalidated and requires manual intervention
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There are multiple activation keys (MAK) through a few different sources which will work with some # of installs. If dudebro and his friends reused the same key < 5 times I could see it working if it was one of those.
 
The Ugly One said:
They won't because nobody gives a shit the esoterica weirdos on the internet cry about.

Normies don't care:
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Gamers don't care (Win 10 usage was at 70% in 2022):
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I don't know where anyone gets the belief that there are millions and millions of people who refuse to use a computer that requires internet access, an account signup, and is loaded down with telemetry when the majority of all computing devices are either Android are iOS.

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It's not that Microsoft is a wonderful company, it's that nobody actually cares about this non-issue that has nerd forums shitting their pants. And Microsoft definitely doesn't care if people who used to pirate Windows Home start pirating Windows IoT instead. That doesn't actually change their bottom line at all.


I know my gay-ass RGB speaker bar will cause Windows to wake up. There are way too many things that make your computer refuse to go the fuck to sleep.
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Yeah my computer decided to wake itself up again. Nope I'm not dealing with a haunted box next to my bed I'm going back to Mint
 
Slav Power said:
The answer is NO! Again, the only version of Windows 11 that is affected by these changes is Windows 11 Home! But absolutely no news article, no YouTube video, not even Chris Titus who unfucks Windows for a living, absolutely no one seems to care to make this very important clarification that Microsoft is closing own only on Windows 11 Home versions! Consider me fucking shocked, could not see that one coming! People? Blatantly omitting details in a Windows news story to make it look way worse than it actually is, just so that people hate click articles and videos? Can't be!

>b-but pro costs more
Just pirate it! If you're tech savvy enough to install Windows or Linux, you're tech savvy enough to find out about Microsoft Activation Scripts and use them! Legality be damned, Microsoft doesn't give a shit and allows MAS to be #1 PowerShell project on GitHub, and according to some rumors, they use it internally in Redmond! And if you get used business laptops, guess what, they already had Windows Pro license keys on them, so you'll be able to make your local account no problem!
>b-but muh company legality
Then either suck it up or switch to Linux! You can't? Well, too fucking bad, you'll have to pay either way! And guess what? You won't be paying for Home licenses so these restrictions don't affect you, you can still make local domain accounts! Microsoft didn't take that away from you! And if you're not the one paying for the software and hardware, why would you care? Hell, if your employer is going to be selling old business hardware for cheap because of 11's arbitrary restrictions, consider yourself lucky! Grab a nice laptop to tinker with!
>b-but you still need interwebz to install it
You know what also needs an active Internet connection to be installed? Most Linux distros like Debian and Arch! But they give you the option to install it offline you say? Well do you use that option? Or do you use the online installer? Oh, you use the online installer? So you're perfectly fine with that requirement after all, it's a non-issue in 99.9% of modern day scenarios, who would've thought!

At this point you might as well just make up blatant lies about Microsoft and Windows and people will gladly eat it up. Fuck it, let's start a rumor that Windows actively sends all of your local files to Microsoft even though you could easily verify it's a load of bullshit and you'll have all the big media outlets openly presenting it as truth. This is the current state of Windows, people don't care to verify anything and overblow any negative news to cosmic proportions to the point they'll believe in lies as well.
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crazy how Windows users instantly believe without proof that Microsoft would fuck them over on a whim. what an unfair assumption. so sad to think how deeply Windows' commercial success could be affected by this
 
Figured I do a full reinstall of Win11 before this online account thing becomes unavoidable. Used this guide to create a fully patched 24h2, then Chris Titus' microwin to create an image, then spent about an hour customizing everything and fully disabling updates.

Am now not changing a single thing for at least 5 years.
 
Slav Power said:
Letting people use pirated Windows so that they become dependent on it was Microsoft's MO back when Billy G ran the show and Windows 95 was their flagship product. Going "muh jeets" here just reeks of ignorance and overdosing on the modern day online cyanide.
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It's the same strat as winRAR. They only strictly enforce licensing against businesses.
 
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