Cultcow Thomas Lloyd / SolidMario / Blueraccoon27 / DarthChaos / CrimsonTuba1069 & many more #2 - Alt accounts, bad liar, self admitted pedo. Thread 2, discussion edition (Read OP before you post!)

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Two things. Neg rate me to oblivion, this is not proof you could use to win in a court with and we both know it. Any halfway competent asshole with a sound program can fake this shit, and since the socks are not able to prove it's him except based of patterns used in the past, not recently (and that is circumstantial), your only remaining proof is this sound recording, which can be falsified.

So unless you can present evidence you could nail Nixon with, I stand by my belief this is bullshit.

It's more evidence than you given us about Thomas.

 

[GethN7]

Sure, I will when it's justified.



Good thing this isn't a court, then.



This is some Alex Jones level shit.

Really the question is which of the following sources of evidence is more credible:

-An audio recording that sounds exactly like Thomas's voice, and screens of tons of alleged sockpuppet behaviour that all aligns exactly with what he had previously done repeatedly in the past for years.

or...

-The words of a demonstrated compulsive liar, with a history of lying about this exact behaviour, and baseless conjecture that the audio was doctored by a high-tech, dedicated ween.

This isn't a tough call for me.

Well, I will give you all this much, got this from the accused himself.

He has every intention of keeping his mouth shut. He feels no obligation to attempt to defend himself here or anywhere else against this shit, and if it comes out he lied in a way that can't be denied or explained away, so be it, I was wrong, but until then, he's chosen silence.

Guilty or not, that's his wisest course of action if you ask me.

Past that, I stand by my convictions on this, and I will not be convinced of my error until you all can bring better proof than this to the table, proof that cannot be explained away as anything other than absolute fact.

And that is my final word on this.

 

[DuckSucker]

Two things. Neg rate me to oblivion, this is not proof you could use to win in a court with and we both know it. Any halfway competent asshole with a sound program can fake this shit, and since the socks are not able to prove it's him except based of patterns used in the past, not recently (and that is circumstantial), your only remaining proof is this sound recording, which can be falsified.

So unless you can present evidence you could nail Nixon with, I stand by my belief this is bullshit.

I fall in line with the DSP escort saga with this shit.

The dude's retarded. One voice clip doesnt prove shit. This forum has proven itself a few times to be thirsty enough to believe anything as long as they want to believe badly enough and it sems plausible. If a source is smart enough to verify one thing idiots believr everything that source says is the truth. And this post itself is guilty of that but you also have to include context. The dude gains nothing by sperging out, even on socks, not even Chris chan would go that far--though Chris chan has numerous attention whore teir faggots who would go as far to sock for him in order to create drama and feel good about msking sick burns on this straw man theyve created so they can feel like one of the cool kids.

Half of the halaled members here are actual ass weens and real fucking a-log type dudes a la Michael J Hirtes.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

I miss @Ulfric Stormcloak
Is this thread about @SolidMario , or about the retards here?

 

[Cato]

-Snip-

I appreciate, and even to some extent admire, that you are going out on a limb for someone you consider to be a friend at this point. Your reaction to this--that you honestly believe a professional-level ween conspiracy is more likely than Thomas bullshitting--still baffles me though.

I must concede I was wrong about this, apparently:

Congrats Thomas; you've exhausted your goodwill and nobody here will put their rep on the line with misplaced faith in you ever again.

 

[sbm1990]

All I have to say in regards to the direction that this thread is going towards is well.......evidence doesn't lie.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I don't think people really care too much about Thomas socking again, but we all know how far he will escalate things. That is the more troubling thing.

 

[RK 672]

Whether or not the voice clip is him or not (I believe it is), continuing to deny that the socks aren't his is delusional. Guy Incognito has been used before on his older videos like on his Ground Zeroes videos. redbuffalo113, green leader, and green4 were all registered on the same date for the purpose of praising Tom on the videos. redbuffalo made a comment on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJO-WgzYArY saying "I have a warrant for your arrest." which is something he'd say. This is someone he's fought with on DA in the past: https://channeleven.deviantart.com/journal/Just-a-recap-519465734. As for the sound clip, I don't believe the person who received the threat's account has been posted in the thread so far making it unlikely for a ween to specifically target this person.

 

[Done]

One question really bugs me about all this: Why?

Why would Thomas start doing that stuff unprovoked? He had a much bigger (and actually existent) call to action when the SolidMario impostor (or was it not? I honestly don't know anymore) joined Coolbreeze88's STOATS and we didn't hear a peep.

Someone mentioned the DSP fake hooker saga, and I second their reminder: As someone who was deep in that vat of collective autism, trust me when I say that we have a tendency to make strange assumptions because we lean towards the funnier possibilities. This is also a reminder to @GethN7 : Don't make assumptions because you want to believe in Thomas, look at the facts and be neutral in assessing them.

TL;DR: Thomas has no apparent reason in doing this, and confirmation bias is a mega bitch.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

One question really bugs me about all this: Why?

Why would Thomas start doing that stuff unprovoked? He had a much bigger (and actually existent) call to action when the SolidMario impostor (or was it not? I honestly don't know anymore) joined Coolbreeze88's STOATS and we didn't hear a peep.

Someone mentioned the DSP fake hooker saga, and I second their reminder: As someone who was deep in that vat of collective autism, trust me when I say that we have a tendency to make strange assumptions because we lean towards the funnier possibilities. This is also a reminder to @GethN7 : Don't make assumptions because you want to believe in Thomas, look at the facts and be neutral in assessing them.

TL;DR: Thomas has no apparent reason in doing this, and confirmation bias is a mega bitch.

Could be lonely, could be wanting attention.

 

[Done]

Could be lonely, could be wanting attention.

I don't think that our attention is something he wants, as evidenced by his own behavior here.

But with autism, anything is possible.

 

[Cato]

we have a tendency to make strange assumptions because we lean towards the funnier possibilities. .

I think it would be far funnier if some idiot ween actually put in the effort to not only create sockpuppet accounts to frame Thomas, but also produced some professional-level doctored audio. If that could actually be demonstrated, the person responsible would be a grade-A lolcow.

I discounted that as being probable not because it's unfunny, but because it's preposterous.

Absolutely nobody here would be doubting the authenticity of this if someone of @GethN7's respected stature wasn't leading the charge of the skeptics.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I don't think that our attention is something he wants, as evidenced by his own behavior here.

But with autism, anything is possible.

I doubt he thought anyone was paying attention after four months. I was going to make a comment about how quiet he's been but I didn't want to bump the thread just for that. Would be better to bump it with evidence of him doing better or what something akin to what Ride posted. Also, I had other cows to check up on.

 

[Slick Bridges]

Not being on DA probably made him feel a little safer. He has at least been smart enough not to reactivate any of his old socks from there.

 

[Done]

I think it would be far funnier if some idiot ween actually put in the effort to not only create sockpuppet accounts to frame Thomas, but also produced some professional-level doctored audio. If that could actually be demonstrated, the person responsible would be a grade-A lolcow.

I discounted that as being probable not because it's unfunny, but because it's preposterous.

Absolutely nobody here would be doubting the authenticity of this if someone of @GethN7's respected stature wasn't leading the charge of the skeptics.

Oh, that kind of ween plot is indeed preposterous and unlikely, but still possible, and yes, it was extremely funny when it happened once.

My friends, I have seen a lot of weird shit on this site, and I am still getting surprised every couple of days/weeks, so for me, all possibilites remains on the table, the only constant is that it will be hilarious to behold.

And I agree about the factor of an esteemed member like Geth leading the skepticism, that's why I took the effort of reminding him too.

I doubt he thought anyone was paying attention after four months. I was going to make a comment about how quiet he's been but I didn't want to bump the thread just for that. Would be better to bump it with evidence of him doing better or what something akin to what Ride posted. Also, I had other cows to check up on.

Like I said, it is possible, but I am still kinda skeptical of the threat in particular, it isn't hard to imitate any aspect of Thomas's writing style, personality, screennames or voice.

 

[Cato]

Oh, that kind of ween plot is indeed preposterous and unlikely, but still possible, and yes, it was extremely funny when it happened once.

DSP is something of an Internet celebrity, known beyond this site. Nobody cares about Thomas enough to do that.

My friends, I have seen a lot of weird shit on this site, and I am still getting surprised every couple of days/weeks, so for me, all possibilites remains on the table, the only constant is that it will be hilarious to behold.

You use this to justify not ruling out elaborate and unlikely possibilities, and yet for some reason you are skeptical of what is by far the most likely possibility here.

I'll shut up now, I'm repeating myself and it seems no minds are going to be changed. I just appreciate @WeeGee and @Ride for providing content, and think it's bonkers that people refuse to believe the obvious because the cow involved happens to be friends with @GethN7.

 

[Done]

DSP is something of an Internet celebrity, known beyond this site. Nobody cares about Thomas enough to do that.

Oh, I am not ruling out any possibility, I am more puzzled than anything right now, Occam's razor would dictate that Solid is lying to Geth, simple as, but how much of what goes on in KF falls under Occam's Razor? I would say very little.

Also, I remind you that we had a person who cared enough to impersonate Solid for months on dA, check Geth's initial post about Solid's "reformation" for possible proof of that. (Geth, I'll keep this in quotations if you don't mind, Cato and all the other Kiwis still have a point).

If I am trying to do anything in this discussion, it's to push both the "pro" and "anti" camps to confront their possible biases, no more, no less.

I'll shut up now, I'm repeating myself and it seems no minds are going to be changed. I just appreciate @WeeGee and @Ride for providing content, and think it's bonkers that people refuse to believe the obvious because the cow involved happens to be friends with @GethN7.

Oh I am deeply thankful to anyone who provides content, because I think any outcome here is guaranteed to be a hilarious one.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

I guess it is better to be a mother fucker than a Bart fucker.


Also that video @WeeGee posted of him complaining about Disney's prices had a vibe to it

 

[Calooby]

No matter what happens, he will always be on the naughty list.

 

[Ido]

I think this whole conspiracy theory is stupid. As I've shown before, I've had correspondence with SolidMario and "DarthChaos", it was interesting to see him pretend to be himself and someone else at the same time and it gave me a good insight into how he uses socks and how his mind works. I'm pretty sure those are from him @GethN7, even without the audio.

I mean, either way he found himself back on the internet and is posting videos of himself playing with a Pinocchio doll (I don't really care but it's kinda creepy in the context of this thread imo) and therefore we have more content. Not much, but this cow is CLEARLY not capable of staying away. I honestly think you should just take yourself out of the situation Geth, no offense but he's feeding you exactly what he knows you want to hear (like he tried to do with BBC, and in the PM chain with me) and doing his same old shit, he's more trouble then he's worth.

tl;dr: He's not worth the mental gymnastics it takes to try to defend him.