User
U/throwRAgpp is a prime example of why mental health evaluations should be done. Severe OCD that affects their perception of self, severe depression, severe denial. Claims to be stealth.
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The stealth tranny has provided selfies. Hugbox tells him he looks cis. Which totally means he passes in the real world!
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Post op hole not living to expectations. Of course it’s vaginismus… I wonder how many users in this sub, and the healthyhooha sub, are men.
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Found this kid on
/r/depression.
Needless to say, he is fully aware of his porn sickness and he has been posting a lot of mental health stuff on a couple of depression/loneliness related subreddits as well as /r/mtf
I DM'd him because I'm a fucking retard who thinks she can save the world
I'm tying these two together because I wanted to dissent a little on the porn comments above. Not to say that I think troons don't have porn issues but instead to say that I think it's not truly identifying the actual issue. Nor will I go so far as to say this second guys thoughts are healthy but instead that his conclusions stem from faulty premises. And both these guys, and many if not all troons, seem to suffer from the same ones. Namely that they express their frustration with themselves as a fault of their gender and conclude that changing their gender will resolve the frustrations by making what they feel shame about into a positive trait as a woman. In reality all they are doing is obsessively focusing on their own presumptions about gender.
To illustrate, the first guy and then the second guy both explain their frustration in the same regard:
"i also have bad dysphoria [about] the fact i can't have kids and the fact i just don't feel normal or anything like my female friend. i feel like i'm a failure of a girl bc i can't do makeup or anything cool with my hair ... i just wish i could be a cis girl .... i'm so lonely and it feels like no guy is ever gonna love me when he could have a cis girl instead"
"I have no confidence, no hopes for a relationship ... It turned me into a bitch. The only thing I can get off to now, is being humiliated, degraded and shit like that. Im even questioning my sexuality and gender because of it ... I went from wanting to be a successful boxer to wanting to be a sissy housewife ... My motivation, ambition, self respect are all gone"
I wanted to dissent on the porn stuff because of
how the second guy goes about in his logic, we can see how porn informs his position but I think it's important to recognize that the porn is not
why he does. He, like the first guy, have placed all their impressions of value into "girl" vs "man" and they cannot escape it. (The ironic position because troonery supposedly informs us about the social construct of gender.) He wanted to be a
successful boxer (male) and now he wants to be humiliated and degraded sexually, except these traits do not necessarily contradict! They aren't necessarily opposed to one another and there's no reason to think they do without his presumptions. And there definitely is no reason to jump completely to
sissy housewife as the resultant desire and
life. Porn may inform this view of women but it doesn't demand it as can be shown by the ample amounts of porn that show women dominating the man we can surely turn up. That framing was entirely his own doing, his assumes the
successful male must be dominant sexually and since he wishes to be degraded sexually and has lost his motivation clearly he must now be the housewife (no career, unlike the boxer) even though popular culture, not porn, has itself ample counter presentations to this!
The second guy is somewhat more aware than the first in that he seems to show some signs, though perhaps it is just the low self-image, of the futility of what he thinks he seeks. He can't become the sissy housewife, thus no purpose in life. Similarly the first guy views his failure to be a GIRL because he can't have kids, can't get fucked in his vagina and can't do makeup. If they didn't have these presumptions about what it "means" to be female, and if they didn't view female as necessarily completely opposite from male, they wouldn't reach these conclusions. And since their self-image is so obviously poor (and they outright say it as well) we can easily connect their wound to feeling insufficient as a man (sounds not just sex related but also "entering the real world" related, as if 18-21 year olds never have these issues otherwise) due to a general insecurity about their
individual traits then seeing the "simple fix" of adopting the opposite sex as the easy and more "natural" path.
Their hangups are in the gender roles, the second cannot conceive of a "man" being treated sexually the way he would like to be. But even if we fix the gender role hangups it wouldn't resolve the issue because that's what they're choosing to focus on. The problem is the self-image and sense of self, they outsource it, hence the emphasis on being
treated as a woman but which are only self-reflections of their own hangups. If your insecurities are not about your sex you don't try to change your sex, but your insecurities (or at least the ones that drive you) are a product of where the gaps between reality and aspiration become most evident. By placing your insecurities in your sex and adherence to what you believe are gender roles by how you interpret others are responding to and thus treating you ensures that you will only ever increase your insecurities by troonery.
I think the irony of the troon is that they essentially have a rather arrogant presumption about themselves, hence why they all seem to be narcissists who can't take any criticism, which leads them to believe the only "flaw" is how others are "treating" the rather superficial trait of their sex. They simply alter that and all will fall into place. But the absurdity of the "fix" is comforting because it provides an endless focus on chasing it rather than dealing with the only actual way to improve their depression by changing the one thing you can actually control: yourself. But that requires accepting a personal flaw
about yourself. Why do that when the problem can be anything else? Your sex, everyone who refuses to accept you're a girl, J. K. Rowling, etc.
Or maybe this is all shitposter bullshit and it really is heckin valid to post on the internet about how concerned you are about enjoying being buttfucked due to the vaginismus in your deliberately mangled genitals. I mean, everyone tells me pass, so I do right? Please tell me how much I pass. You wouldn't want to genocide me would you?