Just a pooner upset that her parents refuse to play along with her fantasies.
Of course other pooner's have also cut contact with their families for that reason or arguing on why their identity has to be respected.
How do I get my parents to validate my gender?
Wait a minute. A heart attack? I went to look at this person's posts. She is indeed a pooner. A young one. Only started taking T like 8 months ago (had "top surgery" about 5 weeks ago). What the hell? She is like in her 20's, and she had a heart attack? This is very unusual. Does she know that cross-sex hormones are strongly linked to vascular diseases? They probably told her and she doesn't care. That, if she isn't lying about getting an heart attack. Weird.
Anyway, remember how they started demanding we call pregnant women pregnant people, and how when people were angry about this, they played innocent, saying "do you say women are not people? Transphobes are so stupid".
Are you not their kid? You are? So what is the problem?
It's always "rules for thee, not for me" with these people.
This has to be because of the testosterone, and knowing these people there's a non-zero chance that she snuck in some HRT to be a hecking valid m-preg dooderino.
I also thought about this. Such early birth when you are 18 years old... it's possible that it has nothing to do with any substance, especially with twins, but let's just say I wouldn't be suprised in the slightest if it turned out that she have been using testosterone and maybe other substances during the pregnancy, and it triggered early birth.
This case is so awful I kinda hope it's all a lie and this is just a troll, but sadly, it's probably real... If the poor babies survive, I expect that they would be taken from the mother if I'm being honest. No way she and her boyfriend will be deemed fit to handle two babies who will probably have some disabilities. At least I hope they will be taken from them.
By the way, it always kills me that they call themselves men yet have penis-to-vagina sex. This of all things doesn't cause you dysphoria? This thing that gay men can't do with each other, this you don't care about? But going to the gynecologist, that's a problem. Having being called "ma'am", that's major dysphoria inducing. Vaginal sex? No problem.
Her account of the events and especially what she says about her family and her boyfriend's family are all sus to me. Her grandfather invited her boyfriend to stay with them then kick them out after a week for no reason. Their families are all abusive, her family just want to keep her locked up, I don't know... I mean it is possible that it's true, there are horrifyingly abusive families out there... But there are also many people who lie and omit certain truths when it fits them, and some trans identified people are very prone to do it. Anyway, this is all so terrible. It's all fun and games until babies and children are involved. God.
Society has a responsibility to bend a bit for people who have some sort of medical problem, but there are limits. No one would think it was reasonable for disabled people to demand that stairs be done away with and every building replace them with ramps. Or that every food producer stop using any ingredient that people are allergic to, rather than labeling allergens. What mainstream trans advocates are demanding is like those examples, where society doesn't make space for them but changes to suit them in a way that's not-beneficial-to-detrimental to everyone else.
That's what I keep saying. I'm all for finding special solutions and accommodations for them. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if this is a genuine psychological condition or not, from the perspective of society, imo. That's for the medical/psychological fields to decide. The fact is, they are here right now, and the situation requires solution. But they don't want special accomodations and other solutions. By "them", I mean the current trans movement and the ones who follow it. They specifically want access to the sex-segregated space
they want to use, and everyone else can go to hell. When we tell them we don't agree to this, our feelings and rights matter too, they start gaslighting, use logic fallacies, use DARVO tactics, etc.
I mean, let's take the bathroom issue. We say, "we don't want men in women's bathrooms".
Their answer? "Good, because there are no men in women's bathrooms! Trans women are women
"
Which is already gaslighting, because they know we mean "males" when we say "men" and they know that bathrooms are segregated based on sex. But whatever. So we clarify:
"We don't want
males in women's bathrooms."
Their reply?
"Trans women are females. Sex is bimodel and HRT changes secondary sex characteristics, and some trans women changed their primary sex characteristics with surgry as well, that makes them females."
"Trans women are females."
"What about intersex?"
"Why are you so obsessed with other people's genitals?"
"This will harm cis women too - non-white women, gender non-confirming women, intersex women, women who don't meet the beauty standards." [and I swear to god, once I also saw: "and infertile women."]
"How can you tell someone's sex? Are you going to demand everyone to show you their genitals?"
"How can you tell someone's sex? You can't see chromosomes."
"Trans women have always accessed women's spaces and you didn't even know it."
"Trans women have always accessed women's spaces and there was no problem, why do you care now?"
"You want segregation? This is exactly like the Apartheid and what the Nazis did."
"In Scandinavia they use gender neutral bathrooms and nobody is thinking about other people's genitals."
"Do you know where you have gender neutral bathrooms? In your home."
"There is no proof that trans women attack women in the bathrooms."
"Trans women just want to pee. Let them pee."
"People just use the bathroom to to pee and poop. I don't know what else do you think they are doing there."
"If men want to sexually assault women, a sign on the door isn't going to stop them. They don't need to dress like a woman in order to get in."
"The truth is, cis people use the bathroom of the other sex all the time. Women who don't want to wait in line for the women's bathrooms, use the men's. Fathers who want to change their toddlers, use the changing mat in the women's bathrooms. It's only when they are trans people that you suddenly have a problem."
"You just don't care about trans women. You don't care that they will be assaulted and raped in the men's bathrooms."
"These are closed stalls, what do you care?"
"It's really weird that you care about the sex of the people who use the bathroom."
"All bathrooms should be gender neutral. I don't know why people care about who is using the bathroom."
"Trans women are women. You are just a transphobe, a bigot and a Nazi."
[These are all things I have seen people say, in a video or in writing, by the way. I didn't invent a single one. I probably forgot a few.]
At some point, I just don't care anymore. Go pee behind a bush outside and leave us the hell alone. I don't give a shit about your comfort or dysphoria. Go fuck yourselves.
All I ask is that they respect others' feelings and rights and be considerate toward others the way they expect people to be considerate toward them. But they refuse to follow this basic decency, instead they gaslight us and try to emotionally manipulate us. So at this point, I just don't care what they do. Hold it and pee at home. Pee into a bottle. I don't care. Stay the hell away from women's spaces, troons.
you can't make this shit up
