Off-Topic Transgender Legislation and Litigation

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No, they did not Kermit. The outlawed pseudoscientific practices that have no legitimate medical or scientific basis.

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SCOTUS JUST RULED THAT TROONERY IS NOT HEALTHCARE KERMIT.

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Transgender Puerto Ricans younger than 21 no longer will have access to gender-affirming hormone therapy or surgeries under legislation signed this week by the U.S. territory’s Republican Gov. Jenniffer González-Colón that threatens doctors with criminal penalties.

The law approved late Wednesday would punish health care professionals who provide gender-affirming care to minors and young adults with a $50,000 fine per violation and a determinate prison sentence of 15 years. Doctors also would lose their licenses and permits and be permanently barred from conducting business in Puerto Rico.

“Minors, having not yet reached the necessary emotional, cognitive, and physical maturity, are particularly vulnerable to making decisions that can have irreversible consequences,” reads the law, set to take effect in October. “Therefore, it is the State’s duty to ensure their comprehensive well-being.”

Under Puerto Rican law, the age of majority, or legal adulthood, begins at 21, making the island’s ban on gender-affirming care for minors one of the most restrictive of any U.S. state or territory. Roughly half the nation has adopted laws since 2021 that limit access to prescription medications, such as hormones and puberty blockers, and gender-affirming surgical procedures, typically for children and teens younger than 18."

Puerto Rico bans gender-affirming care for trans people younger than 21
This is a surprising level of self-awareness from Mr. Wu so far as mapping out what largely contributed to the gradual pendulum swing that's occurred over the last few years.

What he fails to grasp is that he's in no way better than the "porn-posting 20 year old dipshits" he wants to disavow. Women are also uncomfortable with you in their bathrooms, Kermit.
 
What he fails to grasp is that he's in no way better than the "porn-posting 20 year old dipshits" he wants to disavow. Women are also uncomfortable with you in their bathrooms, Kermit.

Kermit's entire fallacious argument is "yea, but that doesn't apply to me."

One thing John definitely does not understand is the "troonery is healthcare" ship sailed about two years ago.
 
Shame there's not video, because this looks like a great troon spergout

Countdown contestant sent string of death threats to Rachel Riley​

Laura Greenwood ranted: 'When I'm ready, it's him and Riley first and then as many as I can possibly take before I go to prison'​


Adam Everett Crown Court Reporter
19:03, 17 Jul 2025
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Laura Greenwood appearing on Countdown(Image: Countdown/Channel 4)
A former Countdown contestant sent a string of death threats to presenter Rachel Riley after developing a menacing grudge. Laura Greenwood made it to the quarter finals of the Channel 4 game show before being sectioned, after which the convicted arsonist began bombarding online fan forums with vile posts.

These criticised the programme for descending into "kid's stuff and b****cks" and accused a long serving producer of being a paedophile and a "slimy weirdo". A string of further abusive messages then threatened it was a "question of when, not if" he and Ms Riley would be murdered, with one ranting diatribe stating: "When I'm ready, it's him and Riley first and then as many as I can possibly take before I go to prison."

Liverpool Crown Court heard this afternoon, Thursday, that Greenwood, formerly of Bedford Street South in Liverpool city centre's Georgian Quarter, appeared on five episodes of Countdown during 2012 and 2013. The 42-year-old, who was then known as Rachel Moran, was initially said to have completed the filming process "with no issues".

But Jonathan Keane, prosecuting, described how producer Damian Eadie received a two-page "ranting" letter from Greenwood around two months later. This note, which had a return address of mental health inpatient facility the Broad Oak Unit, was ultimately disposed of by staff, with no further action being taken at this stage.

More than 10 years later, during December 2023, Greenwood then posted on an online forum on Channel 4's website "accusing Mr Eadie of spying on her and accusing him of editing her final episode in a very peculiar way". The producer of 28 years was also branded a "paedophile", a "nasty fat c***" and a "slimy weirdo".

This was followed by a further post on January 18 last year, when Greenwood again criticised the editing of the Countdown episode and called him a paedophile, as well as a "fat, baldy c*** who she would beat the living s*** out of any day", adding: "Nine out of 10 bald men are like that, in my experience. Strange, weak, pervert sex pests. Apologies if you happen to be an exceedingly rare good baldy."

A further two messages were then posted to the website on January 20 2024. In one, at 1.25am, Greenwood "said she would love to see Mr Eadie again to f***ing smack him in person" and warned: "It's the end of the f***ing world anyway, so f*** you all, you weird, fat c***s. Up yours."

The second post, at 1.53am, read: "They don't want to play Countdown anymore, it's kid's stuff and b****cks. I'm going to kill any bad nonce, with Mr Eadie being top of that list. I'd really rather just bite the c*** to death to be honest."

Months later, in the early hours of July 11, Greenwood went on to complete a contact form on Channel 4's website. Using the contact name "Suck My Fat One" alongside the fake email address "suckmyfatone@tragic.dead.moron", the accompanying message read: "I will be killing that mountainous psychopath Eadie and Riley and anyone else I can find connected to Channel 4. Make sure the fat c*** knows. Mission from the purple god mate. F***ing believe."

Another message was then sent via the same means on July 12. This time using the contact name "Doctor Lecter" and the email address of "get@f***ked.c***", Greenwood wrote: "We f***ing well will be killing Eadie and Riley and whomsoever else clearly does not belong in this, or any other, cosmos.

"Make sure that fat c*** knows and make sure the little fat paedophile c*** knows too, and the little skinny paedophile c*** and the taller, fundamentally utterly repugnant, skinny paedophile c***. Its not a question of if, it's a question of when.

"F***ing make sure, that disgusting, horrifically fat, mad c*** paedophile parasite knows. Dead meat. All of the sausage brain network. Not a f***ing whack job effort. We will kill as many as we possibly can and, mark our words, we are very f***ing hard and skilful indeed mate. Mate sure that fat c*** psycho moron super baldy knows."

A third contact form, under the name "Granite Lecter" and using the email address "f***@you.zombiepaedophiles", on July 19 said: "Make sure that tragic, morbidly obese, super baldy paedophile moron f***ing knows. I will be coming to kill him and Riley first.

"Make sure that horrendously evil, bad p***y fat c*** f***ing knows. When I'm ready, it's him and Riley first and then as many as I can possibly take before I go to prison, which I don’t give a f*** about because going to prison would be a huge move up in the world for me. Make sure that terrible, evil fat c*** f***ing knows."

Police subsequently visited the then HMP Altcourse inmate on December 13 2024 in relation to the messages, at which stage Greenwood told officers that Mr Eadie "drove her mad" and alleged he had "spied on her", adding: "I'm the victim. I have ranted, I flipped my lid. Absolute zombie, never hurt anybody in my life."

Greenwood has two previous convictions for seven offences. This includes a two year and eight month sentence handed down in March this year for arson, criminal damage, harassment and malicious communications matters, in which a gas engineer who attended the defendant's property was called a "fat paedophile" and warned that his "face would be smashed in".

Isabella Denn-White, defending, told the court: "Ms Greenwood was on Countdown in 2012. She made it into the quarter final, but was sectioned before she could get any further. She blamed being sectioned on the producer and the actions of those on the show. She thought that this was to get her off the show and felt like she was being hypnotised while on the show.

"Her life spiralled negatively. She became homeless and moved between hostels. She tells me that she was over what happened on the show, but things she has suffered since, she says, caused her to explode and tip over again. She felt that people were wronging her from all aspects of life. She ended up committing these offences and other offences spanning the same period.

"She says, now, that she is in a better place. She is going through counselling. She is at the point of forgiving and not having the same feelings of grievances. She does want to get out of prison and move on with her life.

"She has suffered adversity throughout her adult life. She suffered significant trauma, and this resulted in suicide attempts. She transitioned in her adult life from male to female and has suffered a number of difficulties in relation to that, including being remanded for a period of time in a male prison.

"She is much happier and more settled in the place that she is in now. She does wish to express her remorse. She assures me that she will not do anything like this again.

"Given that nothing seemed to arise from this, I would suggest that they were empty threats. She has never done anything physically to them, more expressing her anger and hatred to them over the computer."

Greenwood, who appeared via video link to HMP Downview wearing a blue cardigan over a grey t-shirt and sporting long brown hair and glasses, admitted three counts of sending a communication conveying an offensive communication and three of sending a message threatening death or serious harm. Judge Brian Cummings KC imposed a further prison sentence of six months, which will run consecutively to the current prison term of two years and eight months.
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Laura Greenwood(Image: Merseyside Police)
 
No, they did not Kermit. The outlawed pseudoscientific practices that have no legitimate medical or scientific basis.

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Lol at "I would just tell my doctor I'm menopausal and get my HRT anyways." You don't have a cervix, Kermit, your doctor would still be able to tell based on a basic pelvic exam.
 
No, they did not Kermit. The outlawed pseudoscientific practices that have no legitimate medical or scientific basis.

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SCOTUS JUST RULED THAT TROONERY IS NOT HEALTHCARE KERMIT.

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Transgender Puerto Ricans younger than 21 no longer will have access to gender-affirming hormone therapy or surgeries under legislation signed this week by the U.S. territory’s Republican Gov. Jenniffer González-Colón that threatens doctors with criminal penalties.

The law approved late Wednesday would punish health care professionals who provide gender-affirming care to minors and young adults with a $50,000 fine per violation and a determinate prison sentence of 15 years. Doctors also would lose their licenses and permits and be permanently barred from conducting business in Puerto Rico.

“Minors, having not yet reached the necessary emotional, cognitive, and physical maturity, are particularly vulnerable to making decisions that can have irreversible consequences,” reads the law, set to take effect in October. “Therefore, it is the State’s duty to ensure their comprehensive well-being.”

Under Puerto Rican law, the age of majority, or legal adulthood, begins at 21, making the island’s ban on gender-affirming care for minors one of the most restrictive of any U.S. state or territory. Roughly half the nation has adopted laws since 2021 that limit access to prescription medications, such as hormones and puberty blockers, and gender-affirming surgical procedures, typically for children and teens younger than 18."

Puerto Rico bans gender-affirming care for trans people younger than 21
All is forgiven, Puerto Ricans. I support your statehood.
 
alexander, having someone's name next to "intentional" or "unintentional" is not going to get them into heaven or not. the very fact that troons believe this shows that they don't even understand the religious beliefs they hate. he's just making shit up because it sounds nice in his little oppressed fantasy world.
 
"Alice" was not included because "Alice" has never trooned out in the first place.

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CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE DEATH

Alice Litman, a 20 year old trans female, was found on the 26th May 2022 [REDACTED] Brighton, having died as a result of a descent from height. From her early teens it was apparent that Ms Litman had struggled with her mental health. At the age of 17, Ms Litman had made previous attempts to take her own life and was for a time under the care of the Community Adolescent Mental Health Services until she was discharged at the age of 18. At the time she was not considered to meet the threshold for adult mental health services and Ms Litman never sought further assistance from the community mental health services. At the time of her death Alice had been on the waiting list for Gender Identity Services for 1023 days which contributed to a decline in her mental health.

Alice Litman: Prevention of future deaths repor


Claims​

The claims have been led by the legal campaign group the Good Law Project, who are challenging the decision by the previous Health Secretary to end the prescription of puberty-blocking drugs by private clinics to children and young people with gender dysphoria.

The central claim, made on X (formerly known as Twitter), is that there has been a large rise in suicide by current and recent patients of the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) service at the Tavistock since an earlier restriction of puberty-blocking drugs that followed a High Court decision in a case (Bell v Tavistock) in December 2020. The rise is described as a “surge” in suicides and “an explosion”, indicating a substantial and, by implication, unequivocal increase. There are multiple references to children dying in future because they are unable to access puberty-blocking drugs.

This claim is said to be based on unpublished data provided by 2 members of staff at the Tavistock, described as whistleblowers. On Twitter/X the evidence is presented in screenshots of extracts from the records of Tavistock Board meetings and other documents. These variously refer to suicides, deaths from unspecified causes and “safety incidents”. A specific claim is that there was one suicide by a patient on the GIDS waiting list in the 3 years before the High Court judgment, and 16 deaths (rather than suicides) in the 3 years after the judgment. The whistleblowers are said to have alleged a cover-up by NHSE.

These claims have been retweeted thousands of times by other campaigners and members of the public. They have been repeated by some leading journalists, though there is nothing to suggest that they have examined the evidence for themselves. They too have adopted the language of “dying children”.

Conclusions​

1. The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide by young patients attending the gender services at the Tavistock since the High Court ruling in 2020 or after any other recent date. The figures for the 6 years covered in this review are 12 suicides in total, 2 per year on average, of whom half were under 18. With small numbers, single-figure differences can be expected and causal explanations are unreliable.

The patients who died were in different points in the care system, including post-discharge, suggesting no consistent link to any one aspect of care. They had multiple social and clinical risk factors for suicide.

However, it is likely that there has been a rise over a longer period as young people at risk have increasingly presented with gender dysphoria and referrals to GIDS have risen.

There is a degree of uncertainty about the deaths recorded as “suicide not confirmed”. It is possible that more information on these cases would result in amended figures for individual years but the numbers remain too small to affect my conclusions.

2. The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide. One risk is that young people and their families will be terrified by predictions of suicide as inevitable without puberty blockers - some of the responses on social media show this.

Another is identification, already-distressed adolescents hearing the message that “people like you, facing similar problems, are killing themselves”, leading to imitative suicide or self-harm, to which young people are particularly susceptible.

Then there is the insensitivity of the “dead child” rhetoric. Suicide should not be a slogan or a means to winning an argument. To the families of 200 teenagers a year in England, it is devastating and all too real.

3. The claims that have been placed in the public domain do not meet basic standards for statistical evidence. To be reliable, evidence should be objective, unbiased and open to independent scrutiny. It should admit uncertainty.

Campaign groups are often selective about evidence - there is nothing wrong with this until it becomes misleading and potentially harmful. The evidence put into the public domain for an “explosion” of suicides is not unbiased nor has it been independently verified. There seems to be no suicide expertise behind the claims.

4. Suicide by any young person is a profound tragedy: it should be seen as an indictment of our society. Young people with gender dysphoria may well have experienced ostracism and abuse, and their distress is likely to be heightened if services are perceived as rejecting. It is unfortunate that puberty-blocking drugs have come to be seen as the touchstone issue, the difference between acceptance and non-acceptance. We need to move away from this perception among patients, staff and the public.

This is a group of young people who need compassion and security, skilled clinical assessment, early treatment for mental illnesses such as depression, support within their families and schools and online, and an expectation of recovery and a fulfilling future. It is vital that these are the assurances the NHS and its partner agencies are able to convey.

5. In the end this is about a group of young people at risk of suicide and our collective responsibility to their safety. This means specialist health services with the capacity to respond to rising demand and appropriate skills in general services. It means a measured public discourse, making sure we do not stoke up prejudice or cause unnecessary alarm to the young people and their families.

We need to ensure also that we have high quality data in which everyone has confidence. The number of deaths should be monitored, not only in gender services but other mainstream databases, as is now happening in NCMD and in my own unit, the National Confidential Inquiry. Future prevention will depend on it.

Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report
 
Another is identification, already-distressed adolescents hearing the message that “people like you, facing similar problems, are killing themselves”, leading to imitative suicide or self-harm, to which young people are particularly susceptible.

Then there is the insensitivity of the “dead child” rhetoric. Suicide should not be a slogan or a means to winning an argument. To the families of 200 teenagers a year in England, it is devastating and all too real.
holy shit. louis appleby is fucking incredible. i will be reading everything else this man ever publishes. thank you for bringing his work to my attention.
 
So the legal mastermind is claiming that two deaths that were excluded for the perfectly sensible rationale of not inflating the figures with spurious data, is now a tell tale sign of a conspiracy whilst the whole tranny biology\science\history is perfectly sensible and valid?

It's almost like Harvard ran out of DEI candidates and had to scrape the underside of the barrel.
 
So the legal mastermind is claiming that two deaths that were excluded for the perfectly sensible rationale of not inflating the figures with spurious data, is now a tell tale sign of a conspiracy whilst the whole tranny biology\science\history is perfectly sensible and valid?
Ben-Gay is going to have some fun with this one on Twitter, I suspect.
 
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