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Should be a wild four years.

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Serious question, how does one tell a leftist account from a groyper account?

Leftists are all hysterical brown homosexuals that love crossdressing and sucking cock

Groypers are also hysterical brown homosexuals that love crossdressing and sucking cock.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
They watch those videos of sovereign citizens being so obstinately annoying that the judge either throws out the case or at least passes the buck to someone who can be bothered and think they have the magic ticket to escaping all consequences.
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ime no, specifically with family law and landlord-tenant law people are just absolutely certain that their cause is so just that it doesn't even occur to them that legal procedure applies to them

honestly as insanely frustrating as it is to deal with these people it's *so common* that it's a problem with the system, not individuals


we ought to have high school level education on basic legal procedure, but even most people's parents don't teach them this stuff, even if you have the kinds of parents who teach you how to talk to cops. but if you shoehorned enough of this into people's brains? you'd take a lot of money away from lawyers
 
Jace on ice said:
Serious question, how does one tell a leftist account from a groyper account?

Leftists are all hysterical brown homosexuals that love crossdressing and sucking cock

Groypers are also hysterical brown homosexuals that love crossdressing and sucking cock.
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The only one I can think of is that Nick Fuentes hasn't trooned out. That could still be in the cards when twink death turns into early mid life crisis though.
 
Jace on ice said:
Serious question, how does one tell a leftist account from a groyper account?

Leftists are all hysterical brown homosexuals that love crossdressing and sucking cock

Groypers are also hysterical brown homosexuals that love crossdressing and sucking cock.
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Leftists are whiter
 
The Ugly One said:
It was a civil suit, not a criminal trial. He was being sued for defamation by people he accused of being crisis actors. If you trash somebody's reputation, they actually can sue you, totally legal. They might even win. You know how you can make sure they win? Refuse to participate in the lawsuit.
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Who did he defame? Adam Lanza? Can you even prove whatever Alex Jones said was wrong? Probably not because I've never seen anything that proves what he said was wrong, you just get pearl clutching about what he said being controversial, and it is pretty controversial for sure. But who cares because Alex Jones lost the lawsuit right? What about all the shit Trump said about the Democrats that they could and have claimed was defamation. Well can you prove what Trump said is correct? Probably, but try to convince the corrupt judges of that. Try to convince the corrupt Democrats that rule the justice system that Hunter Biden's laptop is real or that Republican claims about Ashley Biden's diary isn't defamation.

How often are the Democrats guilty of "defamation"? Oh yeah that's right, all the fucking time. Every time they open their mouths it's literal defamation, do they face consequences for that? Nope. Do they go to court and have their entire lives ruined for it? Nope. Never. Do you support that too? It's all up to these corrupt judges right? What they say goes and they get to be the arbiter of what's defamation and what's not and who gets to have constitutional rights and who doesn't and we must be happy with that because Alex Jones is "a dick". Donald Trump is a dick too but I doubt you talk about how Trump made his bed and he deserves it for being a dick to corrupt judges, and I'm sure you are absolutely innocent of any defamatory statements about any corrupt judges.

In fact, I guarantee that the only reason you're so happy about Alex Jones having his constitutional rights stripped from him is because Alex Jones has criticized Trump before and it pisses you off that someone would ever dare. Probably the same reason Donald Trump himself has more interest in Bibi Netanyahu getting pardoned than he does pardoning the very people who got him into office in the first place.
 
BullfrogBill said:
In fact, I guarantee that the only reason you're so happy about Alex Jones having his constitutional rights stripped from him is because Alex Jones has criticized Trump before and it pisses you off that someone would ever dare. Probably the same reason Donald Trump himself has more interest in Bibi Netanyahu getting pardoned than he does pardoning the very people who got him into office in the first place.
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who's happy about it?
 
3-2-1836 said:
No you don't, here's photos I took of advertisements on major streets and metro stations on my travels in Europe.
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Now you cross the water into the 'third world muslim shitholes' in Africa

You don't see a single hijab or black on any advertisement
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You turn on Arab news here's state media in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia and UAE, not a single Hijab
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Here's French and Russian state media arabic services
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Here's the US state propaganda TV broadcasted to Arabs under Biden
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I think it's against the rules somewhere to own a nigga like this.
 
BullfrogBill said:
Can either of you actually tell me what Alex Jones' crimes actually were? He said an opinion that pissed off the elites and for that he deserves to have his life ruined and you are in support of Jones having his life ruined by the elite because you think he was a dick to said elites? Everything you are saying can apply to Donald Trump when he was getting reamed in court too.
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He refused to fucking become an Anti-Life herald for Obama, spewing whatever talking points he demanded he spew on demand in exchange for Obama's media cronies making him the male Rachel Maddow.

He turned down the silver and exposed Obama conspiring with the media and got the proverbial lead instead.
 
MirrorNoir said:
He refused to fucking become an Anti-Life herald for Obama, spewing whatever talking points he demanded he spew on demand in exchange for Obama's media cronies making him the male Rachel Maddow.

He turned down the silver and exposed Obama conspiring with the media and got the proverbial lead instead.
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Really? I thought the civil case he lost was because he insisted the children killed at Sandy Hook weren't real and everyone from the police, the school and the parents were all crisis actors.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I think it's against the rules somewhere to own a nigga like this.
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Witness him
MirrorNoir said:
He refused to fucking become an Anti-Life herald for Obama, spewing whatever talking points he demanded he spew on demand in exchange for Obama's media cronies making him the male Rachel Maddow.

He turned down the silver and exposed Obama conspiring with the media and got the proverbial lead instead.
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If the Obama stooges tried to flip Alex Jones what the fuck were they thinking? He's breaking the conditioning! And of the shenannigans that Alex and his legal team pulled to exacerbate the situation: What the fuck were they thinking?
 
not william stenchever said:
Witness him

If the Obama stooges tried to flip Alex Jones what the fuck were they thinking? He's breaking the conditioning! And of the shenannigans that Alex and his legal team pulled to exacerbate the situation: What the fuck were they thinking?
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Alex jones maybe a schizophrenic maniac but you know what. He’s funny and entertaining in terms of his batshit craziness.
 
The Ugly One said:
He didn't, you can read the entire judgment against him online. Here's a rundown:

  1. During discovery, Jones claimed he had no access to Google Analytics data. Testimony by his employees revealed they did in fact have access to that data.
  2. He also refused to request the data from Google, and didn't raise this objection until the data was due. (note that you have only a very short window to object to a discovery request, waiting until the due date is not allowed)
  3. He claimed he emailed the analytics data to the plaintiffs; he lied
  4. A general pattern of not objecting to a discovery request until right before it's due, months or even years later, there are at least 3 separate incidents in the doc
  5. Ranting about the plaintiff's lawyers on air, violating a court order
  6. Tried to delay the lawsuit by demanding Hillary Clinton(!!!) be brought in for a deposition and putting confidential information in it (it's a public document).
  7. Claimed they didn't maintain or utilize a particular sort of ledger which they absolutely did
Etc.

People seem to struggle with this idea, but lying to a judge, refusing to comply with orders, or playing games with requests is a lot like responding to a cop by shouting, "Fuck you, pig!" and grabbing for your waistband. Don't do it. You will get raped.
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A subpoena cannot compel a person to produce information they do not possess or control, even if they could potentially obtain it from a third party.
 
There is no need for Democrats to shut down the federal government for weeks on end. If they want taxpayers to be forced to provide free healthcare to illegal aliens, they could just move to Oregon:
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Oregon officials expect to spend $1.5 billion in combined state and federal taxpayer dollars on a program that offers health benefits to illegal aliens from 2025 to 2027. They expect to spend $717 million on Oregon State Police over the same period…
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Those of us lucky enough not to live in Oregon get to help pick up the tab for the free healthcare:
The federal government will supply 25% of the funding to provide health benefits to illegal aliens in Oregon, the [Oregon Health Authority] told the [Daily Caller News Foundation].
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Technically, illegal aliens are not allowed to cash in on Medicaid.

But some blue states have innovated creative accounting methods to extract federal dollars without the federal restrictions, according to the Paragon Health Institute, a non-partisan policy research group. Blue states will issue taxes on Medicaid insurers and providers, obtain a bundle of federal matching dollars for those funds, then return the taxed money to those institutions, the think tank points out.

Spending on health services for illegal aliens in Oregon has climbed by at least 1100% since the program’s introduction roughly four years ago.
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This is not merely wasteful but actively damaging, as it draws hordes of unlawful moochers from all over the world. Nonetheless,
The policy demands congressional Democrats in DC have named as a prerequisite for reopening the government include dismantling barriers preventing Medicaid dollars from flowing to illegal aliens.
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https://xcancel.com/SpeakerJohnson/status/1975635502448443450
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As police protection is deprioritized in favor of free healthcae for illegal aliens, public order is collapsing under neoliberal rule in Oregon, necessitating the deployment of the National Guard — which has been held up in court.

Speaking of Oregon, only one thing could be more revolting than the shitlib freaks infesting Portland : namely, those same freaks with no clothes on.

As forewarned, Naked Bike Ride was deployed against federal officers defending human civilization on Sunday. The scene was not pretty (NSFW WARNING: click for video at your own risk).

Neoliberalism has bred whole armies of exhibitionist libfags to wage war against humanity. Check out the turnout for their die-in blocking Portland’s Burnside Bridge: https://xcancel.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1977547095679828461
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The only reaction any normal person would have to is to think someone had finally applied a giant can of Raid.
 
MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti said:
You asked how someone could abuse a VPN, and we answered how someone could abuse a VPN. Nobody claimed using the VPN itself was a crime, and the context was Twitter Indians being outed as Indian unless they use a VPN to obscure that information (implying they are using the service maliciously and need to cover their tracks).
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They just dont we to be found out while they larp as a white
 
The journalists are upset about the Pentagon Press Change because that's where a bunch of 5 and 6/10 women go in their journalism career early on to honeytrap and sleep around to get info to report on. They literally can't go door to door and try and solicit themselves or get simps to help them and are big mad.
 
mandatorylurk said:
The journalists are upset about the Pentagon Press Change because that's where a bunch of 5 and 6/10 women go in their journalism career early on to honeytrap and sleep around to get info to report on. They literally can't go door to door and try and solicit themselves or get simps to help them and are big mad.
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If the admin plays hardball and just doesnt let them into the briefings for awhile I bet that paper gets signed.
 
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First, do no harm.
this thread is about the doctors and surgeries, complications and bad responses from both the medical and broader trans community to people with troubles. It's not meant to debate the need/use of the surgeries, or just to post cursed images.

Doctors and surgeons have been trying for a hundred years or more to perfect, or at least get acceptable results from, genital reassignment surgery. There are multiple issues with this surgery, even in its most basic forms. Early surgeons performed fairly simple, brutal surgeries- one MtF patient died as a result of an attempted uterus transplant, but for the most part, surgeons just removed unwanted organs and structures. They weren't attempting to build functional vaginas or penises, at most, just something that looked about right from a distance.

The surgeons who are currently performing many of these surgeries are seemingly constrained by no medical ethics. Patients are routinely brushed off, ignored, or told to move on to a different doctor if they have complications. This is an issue as there are no doctors outside these little networks who practice these experimental procedures.

I'm posting this thread to watch for the doctors' responses to their patients, which are incredibly unprofessional and dismissive, and for reviews and problems with surgeries. Several Reddit forums that once compiled the issues and problems of these patients have been removed. Many of these patients are terrified that their surgeon will recognize them, if they ask for help, and ban them from further treatment. Many have been told to shut up about their problems, pressured by the community to downplay the side effects and difficulties so they don't "scare people off" of surgery.

This pressure extends to any media coverage of people who had serious issues with their surgeries or transition:

I do not think any patient deserves to be treated this way, especially those suffering from a disability/illness like this. Whether you think it's mental illness, physical mismatch with the true self, or just a fun thing people can do- no surgeon should be posting these kind of results, with this much damage done to people, and this kind of treatment. These people do not have other doctors to turn to, for complications, because these are not standard surgeries. It's possible to see ten vaginal construction surgeries and see ten completely different procedures. There is no other type of surgery that is done this way.

Whether or not you like or believe in the condition of transgender people, they are human and are being treated as guinea pigs.

post about puberty blockers and the history of medical ethics regarding them

a vivid text-based post that sums up the intent and meaning of this thread, excellent summary, excellent post

These doctors are taking advantage of this community. The amount of drama and saltiness this causes is incredible, when it can be found.
/r/neovaginas and /r/detrans are where a lot of the victims of these experiments post, seeking advice. There's no advice. The trans community has no support for these problems. Side effects of testosterone and estrogen/progesterone are not even being fully researched. Many trans people have had cancer of the prostate, uterus, cervix, and heart problems, or other issues, due to their treatment.

Again, the doctors encourage the community to quash dissent or questioning.
The doctors have a stranglehold, there are damn few of them and the people who want the surgery know better than to speak up.

I'm posting just a few quotes to start and reserving the second post for images. I'll add to this OP as I find more.

Jess Ting, Marci Bowers, Suporn, Rumer, Raphael...

A link describing the various basic bottom surgeries. Orchiectomy, mastectomy, hysterectomy and penectomy are the simplest and oldest, safest procedures. All the rest will vary depending on surgeon, time of day, if they had decaf for breakfast, what the weather's like...
Peaches Demure said:
Jazz' second dick butcher surgeon, Dr. Jess Ting, is being accused of having botched someone badly on r/Transgender_Surgeries.

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Tasty Tatty said:
These kind of surgeries are never going to be anything but botched because they're never gonna have the result they expect: a real vagina.

Gonna post the thumbnails for reference only and to have an idea of what's what they've done with Jazz specifically.

I apologize in advance for the horror:

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WarpedTourWasFun said:
Jess Ting is well known in the transgender community as the doctor you DON'T want to go to.
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Dr. Rumer:
Behavioral Sink said:
If anyone does end up making a thread about SRS surgeons, don't forget to include Dr Rumer:


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Lack of informed consent:

There's no going back/HUSH YOU'LL SCARE THE EGGS:

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It's not that they're talking about their own experience, they're literally killing people.

Home cutters (unlicensed random people performing surgery)
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Jakandiro said:
Not all is well in paradise it seems like with extra blood coming out of his netherbits as of late. (What do you mean extra blood? Does it just spill blood everytime you dilate?)
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After doing some digging on who this Dr. Hyer was I found out that apparently Colorado is a trans surgery capital in the US, with Denver Health holding 30 to 15% of all vaginoplasty surgeons in America.
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Now, apparently, Jennifer Hyer does both FTM and MTF surgeries and really does seem to believe in the cause, and if my research tells me anything i.e a reddit thread (post-GRS AMA w/Hyer / 7week postop update), she's a former student of Marci Bowers, whom you may know as Jazz Jenning's surgeon.
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Although if you've kept up with that series you'd know that ended up hellishly awful so God knows what Kevin has going on down if she really goes along with Bower's instructions. And if Google is anything to go by, she isn't a very good doctor herself either.
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All in all, he's beyond fucked even if this shit heals somehow, I wouldn't trust a doctor like this with my life.
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afternoon_tea said:
I don't want to PL too much but I know exactly where they're talking about, I was internet aquaintences with the tranny who started it back in the day, it was in Shelton, WA. It wasn't actually a farm, although it was a farm style house and he had a handful of chickens and a sheep. The only other person who lived there was his super psycho tranny gf who 41%ed like 9 years ago. The doc who did the operations didn't live there but would come up when a surgery was scheduled (he was also another tranny)

The OR and electrology station was in a shed they built specifically for that purpose.

Steampunk Phil actually reminds me a lot of the tranny who started that clinic, although I think the bootleg clinic tranny was a little too misanthropic to ever want to start a commune. His name is Beth Flannagan, also known as "Beth X"
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An acceptable, safe alternative that usually has less complications is zero-depth, this is just using the existing skin to make a vulva (external women's genitalia) without trying to build-in a vagina (internal structures)

r/Transgender_Surgeries - Comment by u/vernlove on ”Straight and zero depth GRS. People who underwent zero depth, insight ?”

45 votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit
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It's less common because these doctors build up expectations and refuse to be honest with patients, but the people who've had it done aren't getting harmed, and seem all right with it. For a lot of them it's about getting rid of the things that "make" them the other sex, this does that very effectively.

ETA: The community of people who want or need this medical care is not to blame for the unsound medical practices or the neglect of patients at all. They are held to their silence as much by the doctors doing this as by anything else.
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