Valorant

[scubain]

and all the slopes have to start somewhere, and thats because people tend to agree that certain measures are beneficial even though further down the line they could result in negative consequences.
take niggers for example, things went from gathering cotton to the modern pavement ape - and yet even on the farms i bet some people will say that the abolition of slavery and segregation werent mistakes.

Slavery is objectively retarded from an economic standpoint. It's an absolutely dogshit way to run an economy.
What do you think is better? A system that encourages skill growth, allows for economic returns (via wages, therefore growing the economy), a productive workforce through incentive structures, and allows for free-market adjustments via workplace mobility and labor supply/demand, or a system that requires you keep a ton of costly, low IQ, unskilled workers you have to spend a hell of a lot of money on keeping alive and in line while still only being ~30-60% as productive as paid labor? Why do you think the South barely industrialized while operating under a slave economy? It encourages short-term gains over long-term success, which is the exact mindset that keeps Africa in the stone age.

 

[Indrick Boreale]

i mean the western video game industry is focused on idpol shit, something chyna and india don't give a shit about, not to mention 1b+ people which translates to alot of sales but yeah you are right....

I mean, character designs on Western games are mostly tokenism and/or mystery meat special.

Chinese have gachawaifus/lolis.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

nothing will happen because china, not because it's something so fucked up that a game company shouldn't fucking do.
the rest of your post ignores the point of fucking video game companies needing to have a new asshole tore on them for doing that.

I have stopped playing any type of FPS game online, despite them being my personal favorite for over 25 years, because of cheaters ruining every single FPS game I have tried.

I think all cheaters need to have their PC burned to the ground, preferably including their house, and them inside.
I do not fucking care how morally bankrupt it is that games companies can do that. If the result is that I can play a game of PUBG without being insta-gibbed by a cheater from 500m with a LMG through 5 walls, then it is completely worth it for me personally.

The issues arising from software companies having this much direct access to computers and the data contained within are entirely different topic.
But I personally do not fucking care if computers across the world are irreparably bricked because the teenager retard is not good enough at games and bought chinese cheat hardware. Well deserved punishment.

 

[Carrier Pigeon]

Are there even people still playing this game other than simps, slut streamers and cheaters?

 

[Pew_Pew_Slash]

At first I thought "Wow, this is terrible, an anti-cheat shouldn't brick someone's PC", but then I saw that it bricked the hardware of retards that spent $6000 on hardware specifically made for cheating in online games and I stopped caring, and I don't care about the hypotheticals of "but what if it gets a false positive and bricks the PC of an innocent person!", we don't even know if that can happen, and it won't destroy the PC, it just makes $6000 hardware made for cheating un-usable, so what's the issue exactly? I think it's pretty based, if you read just the headline it sounds bad, once you actually know what happened I don't see why it's controversial.

I just thought of an analogy, imagine you have a guy that has an ASIC crypto miner hardawre plugged to the electric grid illegally, stealing electricity and not paying, the electric company finds out and somehow alters the electricity being used by that ASIC crypto miner, turning it into a brick, and then you have people online saying: "This is horrible! A company should not be able to destroy my electronics!", not the best analogy but you get the idea.

Hello boiling frog, enjoying your pot?

 

[Nick Gars]

I was legit close to relapsing and reinstalling league of legends the other day but vanguard simply refused to install, so thank you Rito games my favorite small indie company from saving me from playing one of your games. Anyways the existence of DMA cheats was a mystery to me until now, it's kind of nigger behavior but I do find the programming/development aspect really interesting.

If you really need a MOBA fix, pick up a mobile one. They're all chink slop at the end of the day, but unlike LoL, you don't have to put up with 30-60 minutes of wanting to kill yourself, your team, and your computer. They usually only run 10-20 minutes. Plus since you have experience, you'll practically be smurfing up until the higher ranks.

They all have their pros and cons, but I find myself getting a lot less tilted and stressed when a match lasts all of 15 minutes on average. I'm playing a game to have fun, not to be so furious with my wasted time that my thoughts border on fedposts.

 

[Weebburner]

Next step is bricking your console/computer instead of just being muted if you say nigger. Anyone claiming to be okay with this shit is retarded.

 

[StacticShock]

If you really need a MOBA fix, pick up a mobile one. They're all chink slop at the end of the day, but unlike LoL, you don't have to put up with 30-60 minutes of wanting to kill yourself, your team, and your computer. They usually only run 10-20 minutes. Plus since you have experience, you'll practically be smurfing up until the higher ranks.

They all have their pros and cons, but I find myself getting a lot less tilted and stressed when a match lasts all of 15 minutes on average. I'm playing a game to have fun, not to be so furious with my wasted time that my thoughts border on fedposts.

not to mention that most of the time you will be playing against bots because some thirdie with macdonalds wifi disconnected.

 

[RapeYourLocalFed]

Chink slop includes malware, imagine my shock.

 

[Psyker]

Are there even people still playing this game other than simps, slut streamers and cheaters?

You could ask that about most online games released after like 2015.

 

[Judex Meus]

The most sophisticated cheat software & hardware behaves exactly like malware.

That's half true, but kernel anti-cheat does not equate to "sophisticated." A lot of them use the same techniques such as instruction obfuscation, debugger detection, runtime decryption...none of which inherently require ring 0, but most malware relies on either the user blithely running a malicious executable and giving it permission inadvertently or an exploit that grants ring 0/elevated permissions. There's plenty of anti-cheat solutions that don't require kernel access, particularly in the mobile space.

* Although, there has been at least one case of sensitive apps relying on sandbox escapes on iOS for tamper detection. In general though this is extremely rare.

 

[I ♥ Wiggers]

 

[Johnny’s Backpack Nuke]

I'm sure this only targeted cheater hardware and in no way will ever fry a legitimate system...

If they're forcing faults along the PCIe bus and it interacts with the NVME in the wrong way, the nvme drive can go into a lockdown/protection mode that only the manufacturer can recover from. There is actual malware that is less harmful than ring 0 anti-cheat.

If i were a Microsoft saar, I would blacklist their anticheat code signing for this. Reminds me of Sony installing Rootkits to keep people from copying music off of a CD

Riot Games on a random day for no particular reason at all: “I’m going to make BonziBuddy look like a fucking joke”

 

[Anime Waifu NFT collector]

Hello boiling frog, enjoying your pot?

You are not replying to anything of what I said with an argument, using mockery is the sign of someone who is not smart enough to engage in serious conversation, it's called appeal to ridicule and it's used all the time as a way to pretend that you won the argument without saying anything of substance, and it's an easy way to win the crowd who are not interested in thinking, you see it all the time when leftists reply "bootlicker" instead of making arguments, and it's what you are doing now.

 

[Dipodomys]

It's property damage, isn't it? How the fuck is that not illegal?

 

[Thiletonomics]

Next step is bricking your console/computer instead of just being muted if you say nigger. Anyone claiming to be okay with this shit is retarded.

Or even just interacting with a "Chud" IRL once, voting for the "wrong" politician (like how some people want to mass exterminate people that voted for Orange Man), or visiting a "problematic" site like KF once, even if it's due to a prank or a malware redirection, i.e. your official bank site gets hacked and redirects users to KF. Some countries like China and South Korea requiring a SSN to play games, and the recent push for ID verification (but not for voting in the US), is one more step towards that being a possibility.

Or even worse, you get your computer bricked because a family member or friend did one of those "sinful" acts, with the push to also punish family and friends for someone going against the current thing, North Korea-style.

 

[scubain]

It's property damage, isn't it? How the fuck is that not illegal?

Since it's just corrupting the firmware as opposed to "CHEAT DETECTED - EXPLODING YOUR FUCKING COMPUTER", is being done defensively to protect their game's value as a product for others, and is meant to ward off cheaters who are blatantly violating the ToS they agreed to, I doubt this would ever get off the ground as an actual lawsuit. The only way anything like that would have a chance is if there was an issue with false positives which, as far as we know, there isn't.

 

[Fats McGee]

You are not replying to anything of what I said with an argument, using mockery is the sign of someone who is not smart enough to engage in serious conversation, it's called appeal to ridicule and

"Ackshually, it's called (insert buzzword debate terminology)" Boiling the frog is a very real thing and so is the slippery slope. It's clear your stance is that this is okay, and that stance won't be changed, hence why you just get snarky replies. Nobody is wasting time arguing with someone who's mind is made up.

Anyway, on to my actual comment about this. I refuse to install anything that uses kernel-level anything, and steam adding a warning in the details tab about a game containing it is a god send. No, I will not give you - and by extension anyone who hacks your chingchong chink company - uninhibited access to my PC so that you can make sure I'm being a good boy and not cheating. I might, if anti-cheat was ever proven to do it's job with a high level of success, but they don't. The reason I don't play CoD or similar shooters anymore is because I see people doing questionable shit in one out of every three lobbies I'm in. Back in the days of MW2 and BO1, I saw maybe one or two genuine cheaters over years of playing. The anti-cheat is more invasive, and the cheaters are more pervasive. So in short, I get ass-fucked by anti-cheat, and then get ass-fucked by cheaters all in one go. Forgive me for passing on this deal.

I understand that the people effected by this are only the retards who spent big money on specific cheater hardware, but it's still an extremely bad look for the company and to brag about it like a smarmy redditor makes me wonder if they have anyone in their circle who's actually business minded and not just a retarded yes-man.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's my problem, not Windows'. Windows can warn me - it does - and I can tell it to go fuck itself.

RCE exploits happen faster than humans can respond, which is why "wait for user intervention" isn't a viable approach. However, if you don't like your operating system determining what devices aren't allowed, you can disable the IOMMU in the BIOS.

And it should be illegal for any game, Valorant or no, to have the same level of privilege as your O.S.

Should it be illegal for all software, or should Congress pass a law specifying what types of drivers a kernel is allowed to load? Wouldn't such a law also ban devices like this $6000 valorant cheat card? After all, the cheats themselves rely on ring 0 privilege to bypass userspace detection mechanisms. Are you okay with companies selling privileged software for cheating, but not privileged software for preventing cheating?

I'm not being sarcastic. I suspect you have not thought about this.

Aside from the security implications it's also extremely fucking lazy on the developers' part.

What sort of techniques could a developer who isn't lazy use to detect a low level device intrusion without low-level access?

or instance - on mobile devices it's usually impossible BY DESIGN for an app to get ring 0 unless your device is rooted or jailbroken, yet most major apps like banking or popular games still have fairly robust protection against hackers and reverse engineering.

The reason you can't get ring 0 access on an aarch64 processor is it doesn't exist. Ring 0 is part of the x86 architecture. One of the basic vulnerabilities of x86 is too much functionality lives on ring 0. aarch64 separates these levels of access into three separate exception levels, and there are mechanisms for moving between them and trapping malicious exploits that don't exist on x86, either.

1. Ban places like Russia, China and India who wouldn't allow you to sue people developing harmful software.
2. Sue people who develop harmful software.

"Just make crime illegal" isn't viable.

I refuse to install anything that uses kernel-level anything

Your computer would literally not work if this were true. Lots of things don't live in userspace.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's always the same argument, isn't it? Someone is bending the rules or abusing something and that's the valid* excuse for everyone suffering some new, invasive rule as a consequence. It doesn't matter if it's the Patriot Act, gun control or allowing a video game company to zap your PC like a wizard for suspected cheating.

Would you like to know the "solution" to cheating in online games?

1. Make everyone realize matchmaking ranked MMR bullshit is gay, manipulative and pointless.
2. Allow players to host community servers where they can ban people (like cheaters) and foster communities.
3. Ban places like Russia, China and India who wouldn't allow you to sue people developing harmful software.
4. Sue people who develop harmful software.

*retarded

Oh, so just make malware illegal. Why hadn't anyone thought of that before.