Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Procrastinhater]

anyone who'd go deeper than nicely telling him to fuck off would be chastized and immidiately exiled for transphobia and bigotry. I feel like I've been roped into playing pretend with a shut-in sexual deviant

Thats why you need mods who hate the fucking creatures and you can't let them get a foot in the door or they bring in more like roaches.
They deliberately seek out mod positions too and then start enforcing their ideology.
Thats why I love this place. Troons that get loud about their bullshit here get nothing but the derision and contempt they deserve. We're the last sane place on the Internet thats not explicitly GC Forums like Ovarit or somewhere that are for women.

 

[Not A Bunny]

I'm really, really, really tired of the troonshine fucking up kids.

• Fat gender blobs wonder why they're lonely.
• Pooners wonder why they're clocked on Grindr.
• All of them wonder why their underlying problems aren't getting better, and now on top of it, people avoid them and don't tell them anything, instead just placating, while calling anyone who gives them feedback a bigot.

All I can do right now is fucking watch.

It makes me sad that this is the eventual end result of a generation that has been told all of their precious feelings are valid and everyone should be made to care about them, that you're a winner no matter what and you deserve "respect".

More kids need to be told "suck it up, nobody cares and objective reality exists".

I guess what made me all triggered and spergy over transing is that if I were a couple decades younger, I'd probably be part of this lost generation looking for a big, life-altering solution. Part of the allure is the enormity of the change: if you feel like everything sucks, logically, if you make a change that big, then chances are good, something positive will come out of it, especially when every indication is that you're going to get your own fucking parade over it.

Personally, when it comes to being trans, a lot of parents should have that same South Park conversation that Randy had with Stan about joining Scientology, where Randy shuts down giving Stan money because Stan was convinced he was "depressed" and "needed" Scientology to cure his ills. Because transgenderism is just as big a cult/flim-flam scam.

 

[Procrastinhater]

That's what India did with the hijras, precisely because they literally kidnapped and mutilated kids. They of course now have state legitimacy, and still do their grooming.

Ironically, the Western troons look more like hijras than transsexuals now, in both appearance and demeanor.

I forgot all about the Hijras, thats a great comparison, although if we're gonna take examples from Indian history on how to deal with Troons I'd vote treating them like the Thugee.
They're both a Death Cult.

 

[quackrock]

That's what India did with the hijras, precisely because they literally kidnapped and mutilated kids. They of course now have state legitimacy, and still do their grooming.

My jaw dropped at this part of the wiki page, in part because I'm amazed troon editors let it stand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)#British_colonialism_and_the_anti-Hijra_campaign_(1858%E2%80%931947)

 

[RollinDoobiesUp]

My jaw dropped at this part of the hijra wiki page, in part because I'm amazed the troon editors let it stand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)#British_colonialism_and_the_anti-Hijra_campaign_(1858%E2%80%931947)

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Confounds me that this is considered colonial oppression instead of actual stewardship.

 

[TruffleSpark]

I've also heard some behind closed doors complaints that those types aren't putting enough effort into "acting or speaking like a woman" and that also increases skepticism.

Even the concept of "acting or speaking like a woman" is retarded. You shouldn't have to act or speak a certain way to be considered a woman. The only requirement should be to, y'know, be a woman.

 

[LimeRikki]

Even the concept of "acting or speaking like a woman" is retarded. You shouldn't have to act or speak a certain way to be considered a woman. The only requirement should be to, y'know, be a woman.

Fully agreed, but if that's what peaks them I'll take it.

These are older folks, some of whom, even on the left, still ascribe to certain ideas of how men and women ought to behave.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

-Read about a Tim at a woman’s workplace who would chastise her for not being feminine enough, like wearing flat shoes and no makeup. Meanwhile she had three children lol.

Someone made an astute observation about troons…things they fetishize and can obtain (however distorted) like breast implants are feminine and proof that they’re “women” . Things that troons can’t obtain like a female reproductive systems are “irrelevant” because “uhhhh some woman was once born without ovaries probably.”

-I unno even the HSTS who usually don’t bother me too much seem to have an issue with things surrounding this…maybe some of them look attractive but they complain men aren’t interested in them.

well besides straight men not being attracted to biological males, I think procrastinhater is correct that they act like sassy faggots, not women. And grown men who are serious about settling down with a woman and starting a family want a feminine woman…there’s more to being a feminine woman than wearing makeup and looking nice in yoga pants, something the HSTS will never get.

Oh and to be on topic, I’ve long disliked the troons, even back into early 2010s. I stopped having ANY sympathy and thinking majority are just porn sick agps fairly recently though. What caused that change? Literally just take a moment to look at r/mtf and tell me those people don’t have a fetish. And that’s the stuff they think is fine to post in public. In their discords and such they are even worse.

I think seeing their total lack of compromise made me really hit peak. If they were reasonable ppl with medical disorders like they claim, they would be happy with accommodations like third spaces. But nope, anything less than some middle aged troon pervert changing in the locker room with the little girls is bigotry.

 

[Procrastinhater]

they act like sassy faggots, not women

The problem they have is they have no frame of reference for how a woman behaves because they aren't and can never be women, all they have is a subjective interpretation based on the media they consume, stereotypes, and personal observation that is clouded by seething jealousy. They also don't understand that actual women don't "act" like women, they just are. A woman is still a woman wether she's dressed up for a dinner party or throwing on a set of baggy jogging bottoms and a hair bobble and running down to the store for more orange juice.
Troons can't do that, they don't even get that, so everything is an over exaggerated parody, and because they're men and even they know they're men, they overdo it because they need to make sure people recognize them as "women."
And it makes it even worse and more obnoxious because the main reference they use for femininity is porn.
A woman doesn't have to put on this freakish pantomime to make sure people know she's a woman.
A Troon has nothing but the pantomime, and because of the things they use to construct it, (porn and anime) it comes across as oversexualized, creepy, and off putting.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

Well the AGPs…honestly I don’t know what they act like. The ones I’ve known irl just seem like kinda awkward, incel men (which is what most of them are of course). I think their ideals of what women are come from anime and porn but they don’t even act it out irl lol. Too much effort?? Same as how they all wear bad wigs and makeup that looks nothing like what women look like I guess.

Fuck I was just on Reddit and saw a post that said “as a lesbian blah blah”. I went and looked at their profile and of course it was a troon who only posted about overwatch, mcu, and other male nerd crap.

The HSTS like Blaire white if you don’t think about it seem to act femininely, but no they actually act like sassy queens.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The HSTS like Blaire white if you don’t think about it seem to act femininely, but no they actually act like sassy queens.

He acts like a bitchy twink, which is what he is and why he decided to troon out when twink death started setting in. Same for Dylan Mulvaney.

 

[RollinDoobiesUp]

Had a mild peak recently while noticing that a notable fraction of the homeless in the area have trooned out. At first I thought they were just wearing whatever was clean or on hand. Then I noticed all the wigs, the faux 'feminine' body language (usually extremely exaggerated walking), and layers of cheap makeup.

Just made me have a nightmare scenario playing through my head because I've dealt with very aggressive homeless people before. Add in some Ma'amzilla factors and it just made me genuinely repulsed.

Eugenics program.

 

[Jacques1194]

Someone made an astute observation about troons…things they fetishize and can obtain (however distorted) like breast implants are feminine and proof that they’re “women” . Things that troons can’t obtain like a female reproductive systems are “irrelevant” because “uhhhh some woman was once born without ovaries probably.”

This goes back into what i said a few pages ago.Some TIFs are ok with getting pregnant and giving birth because according to them, doing those things dont define womanhood, and yet some TIMs have a desire to get womb transplants because it would be gender affirming to them.According to them it would without a doubt prove that they're women.Only in the TIP's world is where pregnancy has simultaneously nothing to do with being a woman, but womb transplants that allow trans women to give birth would be so gender affirming to them.

 

[Not A Bunny]

The problem they have is they have no frame of reference for how a woman behaves because they aren't and can never be women, all they have is a subjective interpretation based on the media they consume, stereotypes, and personal observation that is clouded by seething jealousy.

Yep. Imagine they're air-dropped into a third-world country where being a woman isn't an attractive prospect.

Never mind being subject to far worse ridicule than they'd get in a first-world country for not having the sense nature gave the common sloth, their cultural reference for being female really isn't all that attractive. What they want is to be a first world woman. Not a woman in any other cultural context.

 

[doodoocaca]

It makes me sad that this is the eventual end result of a generation that has been told all of their precious feelings are valid and everyone should be made to care about them, that you're a winner no matter what and you deserve "respect".

More kids need to be told "suck it up, nobody cares and objective reality exists".

Kids do need support, not just "fuck you". "Fuck you figure it out" is how you get incels and MtFs lmao. Sucks that people can't seem to find the middle between enabling and extreme austerity but hooray current year.

I guess what made me all triggered and spergy over transing is that if I were a couple decades younger, I'd probably be part of this lost generation looking for a big, life-altering solution. Part of the allure is the enormity of the change: if you feel like everything sucks, logically, if you make a change that big, then chances are good, something positive will come out of it, especially when every indication is that you're going to get your own fucking parade over it.

This is older than the bible. Lol mystery religions, etc.

Personally, when it comes to being trans, a lot of parents should have that same South Park conversation that Randy had with Stan about joining Scientology, where Randy shuts down giving Stan money because Stan was convinced he was "depressed" and "needed" Scientology to cure his ills. Because transgenderism is just as big a cult/flim-flam scam.

If only we could without being literally outlaws for it.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Kids do need support, not just "fuck you". "Fuck you figure it out" is how you get incels and MtFs lmao. Sucks that people can't seem to find the middle between enabling and extreme austerity but hooray current year.

I didn't say kids need to be told that all the time and for all reasons. Just when they're acting up and bringing the drama while trying to "find themselves". I get that kids need to be taught to regulate their emotions, but some of those emotions need to be met with equal and opposite emotions.

"You think you're not what you were born as? And you think emotional blackmail will get me to believe that? Then what after that? Threaten to self-delete every time you don't get what you want?"

Gentle parenting isn't going to quiet that shit. Not when you have a whole world telling kids that their parents are old and outdated, and the glorious new religion of self-discovery is where a fabulous new person, praise and accolades await. Parents who know that this is wrong have practically the whole unregulated world to fight.

I know someone who when his girly-girl daughter came home claiming to be "non-binary", he and his wife started homeschooling and guess what? No more non-binary. There are some snakes that you have to cut the head off of, immediately and decisively.

 

[doodoocaca]

I didn't say kids need to be told that all the time and for all reasons.

Didn't mean to imply you did. Society in general, absolutely, seems to just go to different extremes and generally act as retarded as possible.

Just when they're acting up and bringing the drama while trying to "find themselves". I get that kids need to be taught to regulate their emotions, but some of those emotions need to be met with equal and opposite emotions.

Emotional regulation involves both sharing your own and listening to other people, not just one or the other, and certainly not "hide that shit or we punish you." That makes them fucked up.

"You think you're not what you were born as? And you think emotional blackmail will get me to believe that? Then what after that? Threaten to self-delete every time you don't get what you want?"

That ain't enough for troonshine. If it was a manipulative kid coming up with it whole cloth, the original gender vampire back in the 90s, sure. The problem is they believe it's real, to them that's like "coming out" or your race or you religion or whatever the fuck. They believe it, and, their teachers and society at large is reinforcing it. It's a big lie they don't know is a lie yet. Kids are dumb, kids do shit like that, like believe in santa claus and shit.

Gentle parenting isn't going to quiet that shit. Not when you have a whole world telling kids that their parents are old and outdated, and the glorious new religion of self-discovery is where a fabulous new person, praise and accolades await. Parents who know that this is wrong have practically the whole unregulated world to fight.

I don't really know what gentle parenting is, and I don't care to carry its water.

I am going to say that you need to build trust and try to explain why society is drinking koolaid. Trying to explain that it's a big lie, and not fall into a trap that will make you look like a curmudgeon who is out of touch - one of the common ways to head off criticism of the gender cult - is going to work.

You also touched on the real reason people knowingly troon. Praise, accolades, mattering, or at least feeling like it. If your kid's depressed and miserable, that's a risk factor!

I know someone who when his girly-girl daughter came home claiming to be "non-binary", he and his wife started homeschooling and guess what? No more non-binary. There are some snakes that you have to cut the head off of, immediately and decisively.

1) Good
2) I want to see a study showing how genderbullshit varies across what schools kids go to now
3) I'm going to say good again, goddamn, I feel a little better. Thank you.

 

[deermeat]

I know someone who when his girly-girl daughter came home claiming to be "non-binary", he and his wife started homeschooling and guess what? No more non-binary. There are some snakes that you have to cut the head off of, immediately and decisively.

I feel bad for the parents who's kids started trooning out in their very early 20s, like damn they really can't do anything at that point. Just lost your child. So many simply chose to enable it or give them extreme tough love, both of which do nothing except push their kid further into the ideology. Imagine raising someone for that long and then right when they turn the legal age in where you can no longer protect them, they get taken away from you by a cult. Their kid had their whole life ahead of them, a whole future getting to witness so many triumphs and milestones as an adult, proud and happy to be their parent- all of which gone. Stripped away.
No wonder parents are upset. And the thing is, many of these idiots don't appreciate the love their family has for them. They don't appreciate the fact they even have a stable family when so many don't. Their parents suffer from wrongthink, therefore they must be "abusive" and need to be cut out. The guy I mentioned, his family was normal. They just didn't like what he was becoming and rightfully so. Such spoiled brats, honestly. I really wish some of them could be put in their place. Then again, a lot are literally willing to be homeless than accept their family because they are so delusional that they think their different beliefs will somehow put them in danger.

 

[Fapcop]

I feel bad for the parents who's kids started trooning out in their very early 20s, like damn they really can't do anything at that point. Just lost your child. So many simply chose to enable it or give them extreme tough love, both of which do nothing except push their kid further into the ideology. Imagine raising someone for that long and then right when they turn the legal age in where you can no longer protect them, they get taken away from you by a cult. Their kid had their whole life ahead of them, a whole future getting to witness so many triumphs and milestones as an adult, proud and happy to be their parent- all of which gone. Stripped away.
No wonder parents are upset. And the thing is, many of these idiots don't appreciate the love their family has for them. They don't appreciate the fact they even have a stable family when so many don't. Their parents suffer from wrongthink, therefore they must be "abusive" and need to be cut out. The guy I mentioned, his family was normal. They just didn't like what he was becoming and rightfully so. Such spoiled brats, honestly. I really wish some of them could be put in their place. Then again, a lot are literally willing to be homeless than accept their family because they are so delusional that they think their different beliefs will somehow put them in danger.

Fortunately, when you see that kind of “Muh parents are evil!” (And it isn’t just the kind of bratty, teenage whining you sometimes see), they’re already off the deep end and have been for a while.

It’s not something you get from a week of hanging out with “gebderqueers” on discord, but the result of a long ass time of grooming and self isolation.

And I know some decent parents suffer the misfortune of having their child turn troon, but in most cases you just think: “WUT?! Why did you let your kid sit in their room 24/7 and sperg with deviants? You never saw it coming? REALLY?!”

 

[Aunt Carol]

What they want is to be a first world woman. Not a woman in any other cultural context.

Except for the dudes who really, really want to wear a hijab and be a feminized slave to a strong Muslim man, and absolutely won't stop posting photos with fetish boomertext about it.