Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[The March Hare]

Probably when I had a severe breakdown during the lockdown. I became convinced that I was trans. It was an incredibly lonely time because I couldn't talk to anyone irl and people on the internet either said I was in denial or trannyphobic. Ended up being diagnosed with OCD like a year later after another breakdown (not related to trans stuff tho), but the fact that so many people tried to convince me (a very young and impressionable teenage girl) that I was a pooner and needed to transition disgusted me. I had actually been pretty open, though somewhat uncomfortable, towards transgenders and gay shit in general, but now? idk man, just thank God I have conservative parents that wouldn't put up with me pooning out or some shit.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

so many people tried to convince me (a very young and impressionable teenage girl) that I was a pooner and needed to transition disgusted me

They were all trying to groom you, and I hope you stay far away.

I have zero doubt that if I were a kid today, random strangers and teachers would have tried to do the same to me, and my parents eat up whatever the Democrats party line is this week so they wouldn't have put a stop to it.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Not a peaking moment (I've explained my "peak" reasons here before, essentially "I'm a fedora atheist who believes the world is purely material; no soul, no spirit, nothing inside, we are what our meat is, you have male meat? you're male, and viceversa, everything else is a mind that's wrong about its material reality, or a perversion") but I'm suddenly reminded of a conversation I had over a decade ago.

I used to work in an office where, for some reason, our "division" all fags and dykes except for me, one other girl, and the lady who was our direct superior. I suspect one of them got the job legitimately and managed to put in a good word for all the others. But I digress.
I remember this time where one of the dykes was telling us about this friend of hers that went FTM. She described the experience as being something so weird, and would say that, "yeah obviously I'm progressive and I support all of our sexuality stuff but... this is weird! It's shocking. I see her and it's still the woman I know but also another person... I don't know if I can get my head around it or support it".

The others tended to agree, though not in so many words. At the time I didn't know much about trans shit, much less pooner shit since most of what you saw back then was transvestites and so.
But I wonder what she and the other fagdykes think about it nowadays. I don't talk to them anymore, since I haven't worked with them in over a decade, but while the others I can imagine accepting it and celebrating it because current thing, the lesbian in question... she was a toad of a person, very harsh, kind of a dick, but she was always honest. I'd imagine if she saw the horrors of this stuff, both behavioral and surgical, I think she'd be horrified and wouldn't play pretend for the faggy points.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. It just came back to me for some reason.

I also had a few toad-ish lesbians in my life who could be so tone deaf to the point of rudeness. It's a phenotype I swear. But to a woman, these gals tend to be good honest people. I don't know how the ones I knew are currently dealing with this crap. One retired into the woods and only posts FB photos of campfires with her other old lesbian pals. The other one has never had a social media presence.
They're different from some of these other dykes though. There was one I knew about 20 years ago I'd be surprised to find out she didn't troon out. Even back then she was always such a try-hard about her masculinity and she preferred straight girls. She was such an incredible asshole too, that I'd wager she'd transition just to be a cunt about pronouns.

 

[RollinDoobiesUp]

The gender confusion grooming was a thing as early as the 2000's. I wanna kick my dumbass younger self for reaching out to Trevor back in the day

 

[Not A Bunny]

Probably when I had a severe breakdown during the lockdown. I became convinced that I was trans. It was an incredibly lonely time because I couldn't talk to anyone irl and people on the internet either said I was in denial or trannyphobic. Ended up being diagnosed with OCD like a year later after another breakdown (not related to trans stuff tho), but the fact that so many people tried to convince me (a very young and impressionable teenage girl) that I was a pooner and needed to transition disgusted me. I had actually been pretty open, though somewhat uncomfortable, towards transgenders and gay shit in general, but now? idk man, just thank God I have conservative parents that wouldn't put up with me pooning out or some shit.

There are a lot of people that were in that situation. There's even a name for it: "egg-cracking".

It's just another example of why lockdown was a catastrophically bad idea. Because too many people were alone with themselves and had to fill the space with something to quiet the internal voices that were telling them they were mediocre people.

Suddenly, there's this brand new, affirming lifestyle surrounded by publicly positive people. It became "good" to be that thing. I daresay people wanted to be trans more than they wanted to be the opposite gender because it offered them escape from the mid lives they were living; the one where nobody was telling them how wonderful they were and handed them a trophy for just showing up.

I predicted that in the wake of getting back to what we laughably would call normal, we'd see a lot more school shootings. I bet that even if someone dare speak the notion that it was connected to lockdowns, nobody would ever say the same thing about being trans, at least in the same negative light.

 

[glass_houses]

The gender confusion grooming was a thing as early as the 2000's. I wanna kick my dumbass younger self for reaching out to Trevor back in the day

Earlier. I had an online friend who was 'genderqueer' in the mid 1990s. Yes, she was from San Francisco and went to Berkeley.

Tbh looking back the whole relationship was wildly inappropriate. I was fifteen and she was twenty five and... yeah. Probably a good thing that gendercult grooming wasn't fashionable back then. That said, I'd spent a lot of time on farms and general nature watching at that age, so I was pretty clear that the vast majority of non fish vertebrates were split into two types and two types only.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Earlier. I had an online friend who was 'genderqueer' in the mid 1990s. Yes, she was from San Francisco and went to Berkeley.

Tbh looking back the whole relationship was wildly inappropriate. I was fifteen and she was twenty five and... yeah. Probably a good thing that gendercult grooming wasn't fashionable back then. That said, I'd spent a lot of time on farms and general nature watching at that age, so I was pretty clear that the vast majority of non fish vertebrates were split into two types and two types only.

I used to hang out on an obscure message board that used to make fun of weaboos back in the early aughts. It was bizarre how eventually people PL'ed and I found out a good third were retarded weaboos and older than I thought for their immature ideas, hobbies, and behavior. The way they got chummy with younger users was so weird too. I can reply to a 15 yo shit poster but you don't find me trying to slide in their DMs offering free con tickets.

 

[PandaChai]

Like many in the thread there's not been a singular peak but a series of ever growing crests of hatred & disgust, and quite honestly disbelief. I'm not sure what that first summit was, possibly some MatI or Jimothy Metokur segment, but the peaks just never seem to stop; I think the troons can't sink any lower into their shared depraved narcissism then they'll demand cosmetic surgery on the NHS or claim 3 year olds can be trans or God knows what else they'll come up with next! It is, to use a well known phrase, all so tiresome.

 

[FedPostalService]

Like many in the thread there's not been a singular peak but a series of ever growing crests of hatred & disgust, and quite honestly disbelief. I'm not sure what that first summit was, possibly some MatI or Jimothy Metokur segment, but the peaks just never seem to stop; I think the troons can't sink any lower into their shared depraved narcissism then they'll demand cosmetic surgery on the NHS or claim 3 year olds can be trans or God knows what else they'll come up with next! It is, to use a well known phrase, all so tiresome.

If you know any family lawyers they’re tell you than Munchausen’s by proxy has completely disappeared but the same types of demented mothers who did that to their kids now have “trans kids” and are applauded by liberal society as they try to surgical and chemically mutilate their kids.

 

[Sissyagamben]

Confounds me that this is considered colonial oppression instead of actual stewardship.

Spoiler: OT about hijra

Seems more like they are propping up Hijra in “anti-colonial” studies not because they truly believe everything was great in India before colonization, but that they can use it as an argument for how hecking valid trannies (or any other current day thing) are. You don’t see them say shit about widows stopped being burnt alive thanks to the Brits. Idk, ending sati seems pretty colonial to me.

Their arguments that Hijra were soooo respected and loved by Indians before are also so delusional. They were literally CASTRATED. They can’t have families, and in a traditional society you can’t just not have one. They were allowed to do some specific rituals or perform in theatres but seems like they can’t do anything else. To me it’s obvious these were effeminate gay men who weren’t seen as real men. Pajeets declared these faggots were not even worthy to have a penis. Hijra existing doesn’t mean pajeets were woke SJW who loved trans folx, it means they were so based they wouldn’t allow men to be faggots without getting they dick cut off. Indians also didn’t care about the “cleanliness” of public spaces, in both concrete and abstract senses. Seems perfectly reasonable that they didn’t care about castrated freaks wondering around town as much as the Brit’s.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

For me, peak trans is the stories I've seen the past 2 years where lesbians talk about being tricked into dating by MTF "lesbians" and then harassed or raped. Domestic violence is apparently okay if you claim you're no longer a male even if you're still the one in the relationship who's taller, stronger, and has unilateral physical advantage over your partner.

Peak trans is when "Lesbians don't want to suck a dick" is considered TERF rhetoric. Peak trans is I'm reading unironic statements of "lesbians who claim they don't like penises because of being raped by men are TERFS!!!!1."

I also want to add that recently, a LESBIAN dating app called "Her" banned actual lesbians for complaining about the male genderqueers and troons using the app, while equivalent services for gay men seem to have no problem with banning FTM manlets for having vaginas. Really makes you think.

I want to apologise for the previous response I made a few years ago that was in response to this post. I now feel that I have a better understanding of this situation.

Males in general are more aggressive than females and this doesn't change when they troon out. Transbians are so pornsick and their oppression olympics only fuels their sexual entitlement and belief that they deserve to have a "hot lesbian gf" who is their personal sex doll,


What really boils my piss about the transbians who torment lesbians is that the wealthy, influential gay men that hold lots of power and sway in large LGBT organisations and lobbies seem to have turned a complete blind eye to the shit like this that many trans people do constantly. I used to believe that these clueless gay men who had the girldick so far in their mouth were doing so only out of compassion and empathy having suffered from homophobia. Now I realise that these handmaiden vichy gay men have never talked to a troon IRL and probably wouldn't touch them with a pole. They only prop up pro troon propaganda out of maintaining social standing and are too scared to dissent for fear of backlash and disownment from the queer and trans activists who run the LGBT organisations now.

 

[Clovis]

I couldn't be any more peaked, but I am capable of being freshly disgusted and apalled by not just trannies, but the way the world has accomadated them at the expense of standards, decency and common sense.
And that's it, it's done, there's no coming back from that, you can't pretend we live in a world run by serious adults anymore, even if they cease pretending tomorrow that men in bad wigs are as much a woman as your mother.

I'm sure the decline of western civilisation was inevitable and inexorable, I just didn't think the killing blow would come from seedy men who watched too much sissyification porn and a few BPD women who thought they could identify out of objectification or whatever.
/chudjak

 

[Tony Hawk's Pro Skater]

Every day is a new peak. I try to ignore this stuff because it makes me mad and then I see troons infesting my workplace, escapist hobbies, friend groups, local government, local businesses, even my fucking doctor's office. I feel like that kid in The Emperor's New Clothes except the Emperor is trying to get me fired and un-personed. And they want to fuck up my kids. It is intolerable.

 

[shadowwizard]

I had a long PL post typed out, but basically I was live and let live until I actually started listening to TRA's and troons themselves (I've always avoided politics in general, so I'm late to the party). I successfully avoided it for years, but they continued to grow louder and louder until they could no longer be ignored. What eventually sent me over the edge was a woman I briefly dated (a mental health professional specializing in teen "care") being very involved in the lbtqymca, and detailing her approach to "providing care" for these wayward teens. It was nothing more than indoctrination, feeding them rehearsed lines that have been party-approved, and encouraging them to isolate from their peers that held opposing beliefs. From then on, that's all I've done, just listen. Sure enough, they continue to encroach into spaces that they're unwanted, and they have become more brazen in regards to "saying the quiet part". I eventually found this site and lurked for years, basically just reading screenshots of things they themselves are posting. The best argument against troons doesn't need to be made by anyone outside of the community, all you need to do is shine a spotlight on them (you know, make sure a marginalized group is heard!) to really showcase the levels of lunacy we're dealing with. The irony is, they themselves have pushed me into having a more conservative belief system. They asked for my empathy and for my ear, I gave them both, and they've convinced me that they should all face the wall.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Seeing the way they shit on detransitioners is peaking me all over again. Especially the ones who transitioned as kids. Those are the "trans kids" you freaks made such a big deal about wanting to protect. Yet you abandon them when they stop being "trans kids" and start being emotionally traumatised adults with permanent health damage from the "life saving care" you pressured them into.

 

[Mourning_Cloak]

gay men that hold lots of power and sway in large LGBT organisations and lobbies seem to have turned a complete blind eye to the shit

Spoiler alert: this is because a lot of gay men hate women, deep down, because we hog all of the masculine, non-effeminate straight men that they crave. They don't care if we get raped by the girldick.

even my fucking doctor's office.

We have a FTM patient at work. Her name in our system is still her birth name but she goes by a masculine form of it (at least it's not Aiden or Kai or some shit). She won't shut the fuck up about her various surgeries if we ever need to talk to her on the phone and she most recently got the coveted rotdog at one of the famous tranny hospitals. I have straight up refused to fax her in-house lab results to the hospital and made another coworker do it. Originally, when I first started getting exposed to trannyism online I was told that anything that reminds them of their biological sex will trigger them because of muh dysphoria...which makes you wonder why not shutting the fuck up about how trans they are apparently does not.

I can tell some of my coworkers aren't too thrilled with her but don't say anything out of fear from any woke coworkers. I can tell most of them are in the "live and let live it's their life uwu" camp but a couple months ago someone was brave enough to ask how healthcare is going to reconcile the push for trannyism with issues that are only associated with biological sex. I believe my coworker said something like, "They're still going to need mammograms and prostate exams." I wasn't thinking so I just blurted out that TPTB in healthcare will gladly sacrifice medical science in the name of being inclusive and not hurting any feefees. Nobody challenged me on this.

 

[Jacques1194]

Seeing the way they shit on detransitioners is peaking me all over again. Especially the ones who transitioned as kids. Those are the "trans kids" you freaks made such a big deal about wanting to protect. Yet you abandon them when they stop being "trans kids" and start being emotionally traumatised adults with permanent health damage from the "life saving care" you pressured them into.

What i hate about how they treat detrans people is aside from the obvious "Its your fault" attitude they have towards them, i hate how they then argue "They were never trans to begin with!".Like i said in another thread, these people can't go on talking about how much psychology backs up the idea of a "trans brain", but then whenever people suggest that maybe doctors should do MRI scans to be sure that the "right people" are getting treatment, they then give the excuse "Psychology isn’t as clear-cut as you think it is, and MRI scans have too many flaws."So then how can we know who's trans and who isn't to avoid detrans people then?

 

[TruffleSpark]

What i hate about how they treat detrans people is aside from the obvious "Its your fault" attitude they have towards them, i hate how they then argue "They were never trans to begin with!".Like i said in another thread, these people can't go on talking about how much psychology backs up the idea of a "trans brain", but then whenever people suggest that maybe doctors should do MRI scans to be sure that the "right people" are getting treatment, they then give the excuse "Psychology isn’t as clear-cut as you think it is, and MRI scans have too many flaws."So then how can we know who's trans and who isn't to avoid detrans people then?

Schrödinger's trans: a trans identified person is always in a superposition of being 100% trans and science says that you are a bigot for doubting them and also of being not trans and never trans to begin with. You can't know for sure if they are 100% trans or 0% trans until the waveform collapses at either their death or their detransition.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Probably when I had a severe breakdown during the lockdown. I became convinced that I was trans. It was an incredibly lonely time because I couldn't talk to anyone irl and people on the internet either said I was in denial or trannyphobic. Ended up being diagnosed with OCD like a year later after another breakdown (not related to trans stuff tho), but the fact that so many people tried to convince me (a very young and impressionable teenage girl) that I was a pooner and needed to transition disgusted me. I had actually been pretty open, though somewhat uncomfortable, towards transgenders and gay shit in general, but now? idk man, just thank God I have conservative parents that wouldn't put up with me pooning out or some shit.

Where was that and do you know who did this to you? I need more proof to slap people with when they claim being trans has no impact on anyone.

 

[The March Hare]

Where was that and do you know who did this to you? I need more proof to slap people with when they claim being trans has no impact on anyone.

This was mainly on Reddit (surprise, surprise lmao) so no one I knew irl. This happened nearly three years ago and I've since deleted my account. I hung out in the lgbt subreddits r/FtM, r/traaaaaans, and others to "test" myself (terrible idea), asked questions to the wrong people and some said that I was a pooner in denial, others a bigot, but some did genuinely believe that I wasn't trans (or a lesbian, that was also one of my OCD obsessions). This caused me to freak the fuck out (like I literally could not eat or sleep well for several days) until I found the HOCD subreddit. Honestly, at the time, I didn't even think that I could've been groomed and stuff. If I had, I probably would've documented it. I really wish more people would consider that maybe their psychiatric issues are what's causing their "gender dysphoria", not the reverse. But OCD (and other mental illnesses) are still misunderstood thing. Anyways, this reply has been a lot longer than I meant it to, but I felt like getting this stuff off my chest because I've been thinking about it a lot lately.