Why are Christians so fucking retarded?

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The Wickerman

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Their dead, non-existent kike God has been proven several times at this point to be fallible. Why trust a desert God with its adherents rapidly turning away? Most so-called "Christians" are actually mere nominals and are incapable of holding any true faith. (It's real, look it up.)
Which further begs the question, why are the few true Christians left still following a fallen God?
 
you all know where the Aryan race originated from?

The steppes of Ukraine
Ergo, they were not white.
Your faith will be extinct in a century, but the glorious, honourous Pagan Gods shall live life eternal.
We've been told this by countless heathens and powerful empires for the past two millenia. You're far from the first to taunt us this way, nor will you be the last. The blood of our martyrs is the seed of our faith. We endure in spite of being subjected to dungeon, fire, and sword.

The 12 Apostles had nothing worldly to gain from proclaiming Christ risen. They were ostracized, skinned alive, sawn in half, beheaded, stoned, beaten, and thrown off towers. John was the only one they failed to kill (not for lack of trying; they poisoned his wine and tried to boil him alive in hot oil, but the cauldron broke) and they exiled him to Patmos.

People don't endure that for what they know isn't true. If they had been bullshitting, then they'd have chickened out, and Christianity would've been little more than an obscure footnote in Near Eastern ancient history, rather than a movement that reshaped the world around.
 
We've been told this by countless heathens and powerful empires for the past two millenia. You're far from the first to taunt us this way, nor will you be the last. The blood of our martyrs is the seed of our faith. We endure in spite of being subjected to dungeon, fire, and sword.

pretty much every argument against Christianity is around 2000 years old
 
Ergo, they were not white.

We've been told this by countless heathens and powerful empires for the past two millenia. You're far from the first to taunt us this way, nor will you be the last. The blood of our martyrs is the seed of our faith. We endure in spite of being subjected to dungeon, fire, and sword.

The 12 Apostles had nothing worldly to gain from proclaiming Christ risen. They were ostracized, skinned alive, sawn in half, beheaded, stoned, beaten, and thrown off towers. John was the only one they failed to kill (not for lack of trying; they poisoned his wine and tried to boil him alive in hot oil, but the cauldron broke) and they exiled him to Patmos.

People don't endure that for what they know isn't true. If they had been bullshitting, then they'd have chickened out, and Christianity would've been little more than an obscure footnote in Near Eastern ancient history, rather than a movement that reshaped the world around.
The narrative you present is steeped in martyrdom and myth, designed to evoke emotion rather than reason. First, the notion that enduring persecution somehow validates the truth of a belief system is fallacious. Throughout history, numerous religions and ideologies have produced martyrs willing to die for their cause, from ancient cults to modern extremist groups. The willingness to suffer does not authenticate the claims being made.

As for the apostles, their supposed martyrdom is shrouded in legend and lacks reliable historical evidence. Many of the accounts of their deaths are found in texts written decades or even centuries after the events they purport to describe, making them highly suspect. Additionally, the idea that individuals would willingly endure torture and death for a lie overlooks the complex motivations that drive human behavior, including group identity, social pressure, and psychological factors.

Moreover, the spread of Christianity cannot solely be attributed to the steadfastness of its adherents. Political, social, and economic factors played significant roles in its expansion, including the patronage of Roman emperors, the co-opting of pagan rituals, and the use of military force. To attribute Christianity's success solely to the bravery of its early followers is to ignore a multitude of historical realities.

In essence, the appeal to martyrdom as evidence of truth is a rhetorical device that obscures the need for critical scrutiny and empirical evidence. It is a tactic often employed to silence dissent and reinforce orthodoxy, rather than engage in genuine dialogue and inquiry.
 
Franco remained in power 30 years after the downfall of the "Thousand Year Reich".

Since when were all of France, Russia, and the Baltics Germanic ancestral homelands?

Or for that matter, how did Himmler come to the conclusion that the "Aryan race" was Germanic, rather than Middle Eastern (IIRC, the closest surviving ethnic group we have to the OG Indo-Europeans is Persians; "Iran" is derived from the word "Aryan".)

Himmler's whole theory boils down to "we wuz camel jockeys from space an' sheeit".
The population today with the most PIE ancestry in the world is the Norwegians.
 
Germans were being genocided in Poland, thus the invasion was 100% justified in order to stop said genocide.
Even if true, they should've fucked the hell off over the border and have Aryan buttseks with their brothers.
This is the main flaw of this whole German adoration lunacy. It's not something that's actual ethnic and/or racial politics. It's just imperialism, and without the Germans that were the core of this expansion it cannot be replicated. Also, I might just not want to go freeze to death in the Russian winter nor do I want to genocide Slavs and take shit from them.
Not to mention filled with inconsistencies.
You want to take land from others, but seethe impotently when the dindus colonize West Europe. Our colonialism good, theirs bad. You think the Aryan German was the peak of humanity, and yet they were so fucking retarded that they managed to create an alliance of Americans, Russians, Chinese (and others) - on what parallel reality can you win against the largest 3 empires on the planet? Sent to their demise millions of German adolescents. Got two cities of the great Japanese civilization nuked. Made sure the whole planet sees ethnic nationalism as the most evil thing and that the libs of all kinds get to push their lies on race and sex.
Lastly, why even cry about a genocide? I thought getting rid of the Jews was good and sacred.
Oh right. Just one more inconsistency to swallow.
 
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A FAKEY FAKEY NOT REAL GOD DOESN'T APPROVE OF ME?! WHAT EVER SHALL I DO OH NOOOOOOOOOOO. We've already established that your God isn't real, threatening us with his absence accomplishes nothing.
Do you hate jews? If so, why? They're just following the religion of their ancestors, after all
 
The narrative you present is steeped in martyrdom and myth, designed to evoke emotion rather than reason. First, the notion that enduring persecution somehow validates the truth of a belief system is fallacious. Throughout history, numerous religions and ideologies have produced martyrs willing to die for their cause, from ancient cults to modern extremist groups. The willingness to qsuffer does not authenticate the claims being made.
You're missing the point. Movements with no truth behind them, or no future, die out sooner or later. Strike the shepherd, and the sheep will scatter 99 times out of 100.

People back then were rational actors, contrary to your position of chronological snobbery. Just because they didn't live in Current Year doesn't mean they were all gullible morons who believed whatever asinine tall tale they were told by strangers.

Plus, your assertion that they were just lying, or deluded fanatics high on copium also lacks evidence. Their willingness to die being due to sincere conviction is a less speculative and arbitrary guess.

What would be in it for them? If Jesus was just ancient George Floyd wrongfully condemned to death, why would He be any different? The Romans killed a lot of people just to make an example of their subjects.

And at the time, there had been plenty other self-proclaimed messiahs with fanatical followers and much better position to gain power. Their movements all died out.

Christianity's core tenets fly in the face of everything a self-serving, duplicitous, or crazy person would just make up. Even in the New Testament, St. Paul addresses that if there were no Resurrection, everything they're doing is lolcow behavior.
Many of the accounts of their deaths are found in texts written decades or even centuries
Which was lightning-fast in the time before the printing press. The written accounts of Alexander the Great didn't come around until centuries after his time, yet they are also considered accurate.

And the Apostles' lines of succession are well-documented, all the way down to present-day bishops.
Political, social, and economic factors played significant roles in its expansion, including the patronage of Roman emperors,
The Edict of Milan did not make Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire; Constantine merely decriminalized it, and that was after several centuries of violent persecutions.

You say it was adopted for its usefulness to the Empire, but how do you know that's true? How do you know that they didn't think it was a movement that had a life of its own? You're assuming they just woke up one day and decided to adopt the very thing they considered a nuisance to eradicate, because it was convenient for them at the time, and that people would just go along with it unquestioningly.
the co-opting of pagan rituals
An accusation from superficial similarity, which is popular, but doesn't hold up when you actually compare the belief systems.

For example, Devotion to the saints is not a practice that substituted the Greco-Roman pantheon. Asking the saints in Heaven to pray for you has its roots in the Book of Revelation, and evidence of it has been found inscribed on ancient Christian tombs.

The kind of "Coexist" syncretism you are asserting, once again, is often inconsistent and peters out after a while. It would result in the wishy-washy, no-convictions feel-good crap you see in Unitarian Universalism.

TLDR...

Overall, it's obvious why you automatically ascribe sordid and ignoble reasons to Christianity; as your first post ITT shows, you just don't want it to be true.
 
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Your faith will be extinct in a century, but the glorious, honourous Pagan Gods shall live life eternal.
Paganism is literally dead and unrevivable. Tribal religions have forever been touched by the imprint of Christ, and the only forms of paganism that can function in the modern age are celebrity worship, materialism, and homosexuality
 
Ergo, they were not white.

We've been told this by countless heathens and powerful empires for the past two millenia. You're far from the first to taunt us this way, nor will you be the last. The blood of our martyrs is the seed of our faith. We endure in spite of being subjected to dungeon, fire, and sword.

The 12 Apostles had nothing worldly to gain from proclaiming Christ risen. They were ostracized, skinned alive, sawn in half, beheaded, stoned, beaten, and thrown off towers. John was the only one they failed to kill (not for lack of trying; they poisoned his wine and tried to boil him alive in hot oil, but the cauldron broke) and they exiled him to Patmos.

People don't endure that for what they know isn't true. If they had been bullshitting, then they'd have chickened out, and Christianity would've been little more than an obscure footnote in Near Eastern ancient history, rather than a movement that reshaped the world around.
The narrative you present is steeped in martyrdom and myth, designed to evoke emotion rather than reason. First, the notion that enduring persecution somehow validates the truth of a belief system is fallacious. Throughout history, numerous religions and ideologies have produced martyrs willing to die for their cause, from ancient cults to modern extremist groups. The willingness to suffer does not authenticate the claims being made.

As for the apostles, their supposed martyrdom is shrouded in legend and lacks reliable historical evidence. Many of the accounts of their deaths are found in texts written decades or even centuries after the events they purport to describe, making them highly suspect. Additionally, the idea that individuals would willingly endure torture and death for a lie overlooks the complex motivations that drive human behavior, including group identity, social pressure, and psychological factors.

Moreover, the spread of Christianity cannot solely be attributed to the steadfastness of its adherents. Political, social, and economic factors played significant roles in its expansion, including the patronage of Roman emperors, the co-opting of pagan rituals, and the use of military force. To attribute Christianity's success solely to the bravery of its early followers is to ignore a multitude of historical realities.

Tldr, the appeal to martyrdom as evidence of truth is a rhetorical device that obscures the need for critical scrutiny and empirical evidence. It is a tactic often employed to silence dissent and reinforce orthodoxy, rather than engage in genuine dialogue and inquiry.
 
Varg Vikernes wannabes are fun to troll. They seethe and repeat their prepared lines when you goof on them and don't take their Internet Tough Guy act seriously.

Yeah. So much fun in ironically debating with an animal fucker who got banned for his degeneracy and run of to OF to cry about KF.
 
Yeah. So much fun in ironically debating with an animal fucker who got banned for his degeneracy and run of to OF to cry about KF.
Catler is also upset as well lol
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Now that the seething pagan has been outed as a degenerate furry, we can safely declare total Christian victory.

This further underscores my point, as a fedora-tipping Atheist, that religion is the only source of morality for ~95% of people. This MF started asking himself whether or not dogs can consent the second he blocked the light of Jesus out of his life.
 
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