Why do we put so much stock into loli/underaged characters as a direct link to being a pedo?

Hate to break it to you buddy but mana transfer is still canon. The franchise your character is associated with literally has an entire anime series of explicit lolicon shit too by the way.
Mana transfer was changed in realta nua as to not be sexual. As for Prisma Illia, only freaks watch that. How do you know so much about Fate by the way?
 
Your description about Yoko is to my point, it would make zero sense to call someone a lolicon for liking Yoko, but by definition, she is an underage character and porn of her underage self would be illegal if CP laws applied to hentai. It's a contradiction.
If CP laws applied I'm pretty sure 99% of hentai would be illegal. Almost every anime is set in high school and even third years are only 17 years old.
 
The first thing you see in the VN is a disclaimer that all characters are over the age of 18.
We've been over this already like 15 pages ago.
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Since these are cartoon characters and the common argument is "nuh uh the dragon maid isn't a child she's actually 900000 years old and an immortal dragon she just picked that human form" and we're either playing that game or we're not.
"Don't worry guys, she might age-frozen at 12 because of a magic sword but she's actually 18" is the same argument, and @WelperHelper99 has been arguing that all of this stuff should be banned for depicting children this whole thread, he has to pick a lane.

It can't only be excusable when it benefits him to not look like a pedophile by his own definitions. The argument that it's only lolicon if you jack off to it is retarded, but he seems to be making the argument that possessing what he would consider CP is okay because he "fast forwarded those scenes"
 
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If CP laws applied I'm pretty sure 99% of hentai would be illegal. Almost every anime is set in high school and even third years are only 17 years old.
Your post was in mod queue and it's a very suspect first post but I'll put this out here.

Hentai is basically illegal for the reason you listed. I say basically because the law is almost never used.

IIRC, this law has only been used in conjunction with other obscenity (namely, the only one legally enforceable: CSAM). That is to say, if you possess CSAM and lolicon, you may find yourself charged with obscenity for the lolicon because its context with actual CSAM.

This is also why a lot of sites block the term lolicon, like Twitter for example, but also porn sites. This notably doesn't include Japanese sites because 1) aforementioned law does not apply, 2) Japanese culture is extremely weird about children don't fucking @ me.

So even though it's not enforced a lot of sites do block specific terms and tags because nobody wants to be the first guy to catch that particular bullet. Nobody will help you in that situation.
 
We've been over this already like 15 pages ago.
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Since these are cartoon characters and the common argument is "nuh uh the dragon maid isn't a child she's actually 900000 years old and an immortal dragon she just picked that human form" and we're either playing that game or we're not.
"Don't worry guys, she might age-frozen at 12 because of a magic sword but she's actually 18" is the same argument, and @WelperHelper99 has been arguing that all of this stuff should be banned for depicting children this whole thread, he has to pick a lane.
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>sounds of retarded whaling and gnashing of teeth.

My lane is simple. I read Fate for the fights and skipped past the smut. As well as the great characters. A lot of people did. Enough that they eventually removed the sex scenes entirely because it was just that good. You can say I'm lying all you want pinky, it doesn't make it true. Cope and sneed.
 
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your pfp is a 15 year old who gets fingerblasted in the game you played, I don't need to address any of your hypocrisies lol

lol really? I can't keep track of all these new internet waifus. I should just assume every anime avatar is of a 12-15 yr old now.

I mean wasn't Rei and Asuka 14 back in the day?
 
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>sounds of retarded whaling and gnashing of teeth.

My lane is simple. I read Fate for the fights and skipped past the smut. As well as the great characters. A lot of people did. Enough that they eventually removed the sex scenes entirely because it was just that good. You can say I'm lying all I want pinky, it doesn't make it true. Cope and sneed.
I'm with you on that, but to be fair, the part where Sakura gets raped by her brother is extremely important to her character.
 
The fact that combination of words was said affirms my decision to never watch anime.
Most anime is perfectly fine, it's just certain shows that freaks (which I guess includes me kinda but I didn't get off on those scenes) attach themselves to.
 
The fact that combination of words was said affirms my decision to never watch anime.
You know... I can't even blame you. Nasu was... very edgy to put it lightly.
Most anime is perfectly fine, it's just certain shows that freaks (which I guess includes me kinda but I didn't get off on those scenes) attach themselves to.
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My guy. My nigga. Some things do not need to be said.
 
How come being sexually attracted to a (drawn) depiction of undeveloped body is being considered pedophilic?
We might never know.


600 years old mental gymnastics are in vain really, together with 'adult' depiction of underage/children characters. We know that you know that we know.
Now, I'm not really trying to moralfag here, just the level of cognitive dissonance on particularly this thing baffles me. Just from my limited personal experience the amount of oversharing men in their 30s and 40s lusting after 16-17 yo high-school girls indicates that ebephilia (or what the fuck is it called) is nothing out of ordinary in general population. So this all isn't really shocking in itself.
 
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Most anime is perfectly fine
Lots of millennials grew up with DBZ, Hellsing, Bebop etc and they are perfectly normal people. It's those weird 4chan types who want you to watch K-On to see what "They" took from you that raise the red flag for me.

Any grown man who watches coming of age high school girl cartoons belongs on a list.

If you date an adult who looks like a child, are you a pedophile?
If you date the adult *because* they look like a child, yes.
 
The legality of e.g. a video game hinging on whether the player is experiencing feelings of enjoyment that are in a category that is acceptable to you, is an insane basis for whether it should be illegal.
Do you think a hyperrealistic rape, torture, & murder VR simulator game would be insane to regulate because we don't like people feeling enjoyment of it?

I'd argue it'd be insane not to. You want to cultivate the good in people, not the bad.

Because porn is porn and not art. If it's meant to arouse the viewer or is obscene then it's not artistic, it's just gross smut with no value for society other than give men boners.
Hey now, there's plenty of women who are into porn. As pointed out by loli defenders, a lot of this stuff is allegedly drawn by women too.

No, you do not go from looking at lolicon to molesting children, that's not how it works.
Isn't it probable that they could graduate to cp, then become molesters after that? Theoretically some people may not be interested in anything beyond cartoons, but exceptions don't make the rule, and it's unreasonable to assume there's not a potential pipeline.

No, I don't need to cite a study, I don't outsource my thinking to The Science (tm), nor do lawmakers.

Works can be arousing or obscene and still be art which is something we see all throughout history.
Something obscene shouldn't be considered art, and thus doesn't deserve the protected status thereof.

we don't line up people who are born with a mental illness and shoot them in the head, because we as a society believe in rehabilitation of the retarded and not euthanization.
We have mental hospitals for the mentally ill, and there's no rehabilitation for some people, so they should have a permanent stay.

I always thought the drawings of children being disemboweled or decapitated was worse. But I guess thats what happens when everyones playing videogame shooters all the time.
It depends. Depictions of kids killed in media can be justified with consideration to certain factors, such as realism and context.

For example, killing kids in video games isn't problematic per se; if you could kill them in a game like Skyrim then it would make sense and isn't really any more concerning than killing other innocent characters and would just be a part of the larger, fairly cartoony game.

However, if it was a hyperrealistic game or solely about killing kids, that's infinitely worse than loli and should be banned all the more. But again, just showing kids die isn't an issue in and of itself, if you've ever lost in Zelda then you've watched a kid die, and it's not disturbing to anybody.

If you date an adult who looks like a child, are you a pedophile?
They don't exist, and no, the midgets and diseased people who age strangely don't actually look like children. It's an impossible question for reality, but if somehow such a person did exist, you'd need to be a pedophile to be aroused by such a strange adult.

You played video games with 11 year old perky tidded cat girls for memes so... pretty high and mighty words considering the source of them.
He claims to have played the censored version. If a game is bereft of nudity or sex scenes and otherwise good, you can just bypass/ignore any remaining suggestive elements and enjoy the rest of the game.

It's the Fate game that's the issue, as you've rather graphically explained several times.

Lots of millennials grew up with DBZ, Hellsing, Bebop etc and they are perfectly normal people.
I'll go a step further and say you're not normal if you don't like DBZ.
 
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