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Altissimo said:
And the reason why is I decided, after starting college, without realizing consciously my decision - that I am absolutely not going to be a NEET.

Had my parents pushed me a little bit less, or had I grown up with less drive, I could very well be sympathizing with the wizards, but from the female end of the spectrum.

I've got a similar story.

When I left high school in 2009, I had no idea what the fuck I wanted to do. I did what most people in my situation did; enrolled in my local community college and thought, "Eh, I'll figure out a major later." Well, as it turned out, 'later' never quite came. After my first semester, I started having issues getting motivated and my schoolwork suffered, which only led to falling into depression, which didn't help my motivation much. I spent the next two and a half years in that nasty downward spiral, basically doing nothing productive and wasting time and money.

Summer 2012: I'm a NEET, and had I stumbled across Wizardchan, I would have fit right in. 21 years old, absolutely zero prospects, strained relationships with family, almost no friends, could barely talk to pretty much anyone, and basically wanting to be forgotten by everyone and left to wallow in my own misery and feel sorry for myself. Around that time, I discovered Chris, and read the CWCki to take my mind off my horrible life. One night in early August, I made the fateful decision, and I can remember this like it was yesterday. I was reading the page about Chris' short-lived job at Wendy's, and thought, "What the hell, I'll fill out a few job applications." Four days later, my house got a phone call from a manager at a local Taco Bell.

After about a month of working, when it became clear I could hold this job down, I snapped out of my funk and started reconsidering my prospects and planning for a future I now knew I could reach. I quickly started hating almost everything about the job, and wanted nothing more than to go back to school. Come Fall 2013, I re-enrolled at my old community college.

Fast forward a few months, and I'm a Dean's List student making plans to major in Chemistry at my local four year school.

As for the wizards...they've mostly influenced me in other ways. I've always been kind of a reserved person, similar to the wizards, except I'm capable of social interaction and (according to my friends, anyway) am supposedly fairly entertaining. I laugh at these wizards for missing out on stuff, but I also feel like I've missed out on a lot of that same stuff. Lately, I've been trying to step outside of my comfort zone and do things I wouldn't normally do, just to be less like the wizards.

So thanks, Wizardchan. You're helping to make my life richer.

Also, I just noticed this thread has surpassed the Loveshy thread in page count.
 
I don't know if wizard chan does this, but I never got the concept taking pride in being NEET.
like they will claim to be free to do whatever they want and be free from "wage slaves". but do they realize they are sucking the tit off tugboat that is powered by these so called "wage slaves".
unless your living inawoods and making your own resources by living off the land, I don't think being a NEET sounds so appealing.
 
Oglooger said:
I don't know if wizard chan does this, but I never got the concept taking pride in being NEET.
like they will claim to be free to do whatever they want and be free from "wage slaves". but do they realize they are sucking the tit off tugboat that is powered by these so called "wage slaves".
unless your living inawoods and making your own resources by living off the land, I don't think being a NEET sounds so appealing.

I think a bunch of it comes from, "boo hoo, life isn't fair, so I'll protest it by refusing to live, I'm so hardcore guise look at me I haven't showered or left my room in a month".

Then the echo chamber goes, "Yeah, you show normal society! Fuck life!", "This guy's a wizardly hero!", "tfw I wasn't born a rich idiot who doesn't have to do anything, this is such bullshit", "women have life on easy mode", "I tried to get a job once and didn't get my asspats, baww my feels", etc.
 
Oglooger said:
I don't know if wizard chan does this, but I never got the concept taking pride in being NEET.
like they will claim to be free to do whatever they want and be free from "wage slaves". but do they realize they are sucking the tit off tugboat that is powered by these so called "wage slaves".
unless your living inawoods and making your own resources by living off the land, I don't think being a NEET sounds so appealing.

There's a LOT of cognitive dissonance and rationalizations on wizardchan. They keep going on about how life is unfair and even pointless, but none of them are willing to do anything about, not even to commit suicide. So what they do is basically use their NEET lifestyle as a way of passive aggression against society, living like lazy, unwashed, "philosopher kings", taking advantage of their families who are sometimes to apathetic to do anything about it. Wizardchan is basically a big circlejerk to help them rationalize their situations and ways of thinking. Remember, these are people who were too extreme for 4chan and went off to make their own club house. "NO NORMIES ALLOWED"
 
Pft, under the right circumstances, I wouldn't mind being a NEET - free time to do whatever I want without worry would, theoretically, be nice. Unfortunately, unless you've won the lottery or managed to retire, that means that you're not providing for your own existence. You're completely dependent on someone else to do that for you.

So, no, it's not a choice between NEET and "wage slave". It's a choice between self-reliant or (in the worst extremes) throwing a tantrum like a five-year-old to get Mommy to give you internet access and home-cooked meals because working sucks.

I'd rather be self-reliant. I get some damn self esteem out of the deal, and I get to be able to afford the things I want, like Subway lunches (total freaking addict these days >_<'), vidya...

Hell, I get to provide some nice gifts for dear friends who have gone through tough financial times of their own. In fact, that has been one of the happiest moments in the past several years of my life. I have a good friend who put up with my bullshit and stood by my side during a time in my life when I really needed it. Being able, later on, to get gifts and do things for her and her family when they'd just been through a rough patch where they could barely keep putting food on the table...

There's nothing like that feeling.

Nothing.

And I will never be able to look at manipulative, leeching, NEET wizards with anything but disgust.
 
I'd rather work and feel like I've made something of myself than sucking the teat of Big Daddy Government and know I'm living off of someone else's hard work and taking away from them and their families.
 
You know, I'm going to be honest to you guys.

I'm a NEET, considering that I haven't studied in almost 9 years because I need to give way for my other siblings to finish theirs and the last job that I had was 5 years ago in a call center. By that time my mom went down because of her cervix problem and needs an operation for it. From there on, they cannot handle housework anymore so as free as I am, I have to do whatever I can to contribute. I admit that I'm completely low when it comes to confidence but I don't expect women to actually talk to me simply out of pity. I do want to show and talk to them if I know I have the guns to do it but for now I enjoy researching, vlogging and working on my own game that I've been wanting for years.

Call me a wizard, that depends on you people.
 
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I don't think you can truly be a Wizard until you actively support/condone pederasty. So if you ever find yourself bragging about giving a little girl jesus juice and then rubbing your cock on her you might be a wizard.
 
Oglooger said:
I don't know if wizard chan does this, but I never got the concept taking pride in being NEET.
like they will claim to be free to do whatever they want and be free from "wage slaves". but do they realize they are sucking the tit off tugboat that is powered by these so called "wage slaves".
unless your living inawoods and making your own resources by living off the land, I don't think being a NEET sounds so appealing.

When you delude yourself into leaching off others for long enough you also get this sense of pride for doing it. Like as if you've uncovered some sort of secret that nobody else has thought of.

Crazy Pacer said:
I don't think you can truly be a Wizard until you actively support/condone pederasty. So if you ever find yourself bragging about giving a little girl jesus juice and then rubbing your cock on her you might be a wizard.

Wizards see pedophiles as some sort of oppressed minority like themselves.
 
homerbeoulve said:
You know, I'm going to be honest to you guys.

I'm a NEET, considering that I haven't studied in almost 9 years because I need to give way for my other siblings to finish theirs and the last job that I had was 5 years ago in a call center. By that time my mom went down because of her cervix problem and needs an operation for it. From there on, they cannot handle housework anymore so as free as I am, I have to do whatever I can to contribute. I admit that I'm completely low when it comes to confidence but I don't expect women to actually talk to me simply out of pity. I do want to show and talk to them if I know I have the guns to do it but for now I enjoy researching, vlogging and working on my own game that I've been wanting for years.

Call me a wizard, that depends on you people.


Based on how I'm reading your post, it sounds like you're at home helping with a sick parent. I wouldn't call that being a wizard.
 
Do these people who are trying to get their "autismbux" not realize that if they did get it, it's not all vidya, fapping and sleeping till the end of their miserable days? That what Chris gets away with is the exception? They'd have to be assigned a case worker, a therapist and other things to try to get them better, since 'tism and mental illness are not terminal conditions. If they don't go along with it, then the :tugboat: is going to get torpedoed.
Hell, one trip to the psych ward for suicidal feels isn't going to cut it either. They'd have to have an extensive history documented by multiple doctors to even get considered.
That's what I had to do to get my "Scizobux" which I had earned by working my ass off for 15+ years until I couldn't handle it any more.

I can't stand people like this and I know several IRL due to me following through with my treatment plan.
 
sikotik said:
Do these people who are trying to get their "autismbux" not realize that if they did get it, it's not all vidya, fapping and sleeping till the end of their miserable days? That what Chris gets away with is the exception? They'd have to be assigned a case worker, a therapist and other things to try to get them better, since 'tism and mental illness are not terminal conditions. If they don't go along with it, then the :tugboat: is going to get torpedoed.
Hell, one trip to the psych ward for suicidal feels isn't going to cut it either. They'd have to have an extensive history documented by multiple doctors to even get considered.
That's what I had to do to get my "Scizobux" which I had earned by working my ass off for 15+ years until I couldn't handle it any more.

I can't stand people like this and I know several IRL due to me following through with my treatment plan.

They'd rather go through miserable fucking shit than work.

It's similar to Our Pet Lolcow in one of his Alec calls. Our Pet Lolcow would rather do something easy now that is much harder down the line than do something uncomfortable right now that's easier in the longrun. It's this very child-like mentality that they'd need in order to justify something like this to themselves and others.
 
Actually the Pederasty angle may explain why our Wizard friend is working so feverishly to learn Attic Greek. Fucking children was normal enough to be expected in ancient Greece, especially in Sparta. It was actually abnormal to abstain from molesting children. They actually honored child molesters and gave them status.

Perhaps it's his own form of nostalgia? A way to learn about a time he is sorry he missed?

Now who else honors pedos and gives them status? Who worships the pedophile as a hero? Who seeks to dream lucidly about ascending to that storied rank of Pedophile?

EDIT: I away the reply from our most vaunted friend. I await your big words, and your shit excuses.
 
Springblossom said:
Altissimo said:
And the reason why is I decided, after starting college, without realizing consciously my decision - that I am absolutely not going to be a NEET.

Had my parents pushed me a little bit less, or had I grown up with less drive, I could very well be sympathizing with the wizards, but from the female end of the spectrum.

I've got a similar story.

When I left high school in 2009, I had no idea what the fuck I wanted to do. I did what most people in my situation did; enrolled in my local community college and thought, "Eh, I'll figure out a major later." Well, as it turned out, 'later' never quite came. After my first semester, I started having issues getting motivated and my schoolwork suffered, which only led to falling into depression, which didn't help my motivation much. I spent the next two and a half years in that nasty downward spiral, basically doing nothing productive and wasting time and money.

Summer 2012: I'm a NEET, and had I stumbled across Wizardchan, I would have fit right in. 21 years old, absolutely zero prospects, strained relationships with family, almost no friends, could barely talk to pretty much anyone, and basically wanting to be forgotten by everyone and left to wallow in my own misery and feel sorry for myself. Around that time, I discovered Chris, and read the CWCki to take my mind off my horrible life. One night in early August, I made the fateful decision, and I can remember this like it was yesterday. I was reading the page about Chris' short-lived job at Wendy's, and thought, "What the hell, I'll fill out a few job applications." Four days later, my house got a phone call from a manager at a local Taco Bell.

After about a month of working, when it became clear I could hold this job down, I snapped out of my funk and started reconsidering my prospects and planning for a future I now knew I could reach. I quickly started hating almost everything about the job, and wanted nothing more than to go back to school. Come Fall 2013, I re-enrolled at my old community college.

Fast forward a few months, and I'm a Dean's List student making plans to major in Chemistry at my local four year school.

As for the wizards...they've mostly influenced me in other ways. I've always been kind of a reserved person, similar to the wizards, except I'm capable of social interaction and (according to my friends, anyway) am supposedly fairly entertaining. I laugh at these wizards for missing out on stuff, but I also feel like I've missed out on a lot of that same stuff. Lately, I've been trying to step outside of my comfort zone and do things I wouldn't normally do, just to be less like the wizards.

So thanks, Wizardchan. You're helping to make my life richer.

Also, I just noticed this thread has surpassed the Loveshy thread in page count.

I wonder how many people's lives Chris has inadvertently improved. Lots of people here seem to have stories similar to yours and I know of at least three couples formed from members of the CWCki. Chris is :tugboat: well spent if you ask me.
 
Crazy Pacer said:
Actually the Pederasty angle may explain why our Wizard friend is working so feverishly to learn Attic Greek. Fucking children was normal enough to be expected in ancient Greece, especially in Sparta. It was actually abnormal to abstain from molesting children. They actually honored child molesters and gave them status.

Perhaps it's his own form of nostalgia? A way to learn about a time he is sorry he missed?

Now who else honors pedos and gives them status? Who worships the pedophile as a hero? Who seeks to dream lucidly about ascending to that storied rank of Pedophile?

EDIT: I away the reply from our most vaunted friend. I await your big words, and your shit excuses.

I can give you one out of two as I can be as sesquipedalian as any, though I cannot make an excuse for anything I have discussed herein. That is because according to Oxford, an excuse is a "a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence", and I have not mentioned any fault or offence on my part in this thread.

As to equivocating the study of Attic Greek with paedophilia ostensibly account of certain customs, that is a thinly veiled ad-hominem that does not warrant a reply on my part nor shall you receive future replies from me. You blotted your copybook with such antics.
 
Hróðvitnisson said:
Crazy Pacer said:
Actually the Pederasty angle may explain why our Wizard friend is working so feverishly to learn Attic Greek. Fucking children was normal enough to be expected in ancient Greece, especially in Sparta. It was actually abnormal to abstain from molesting children. They actually honored child molesters and gave them status.

Perhaps it's his own form of nostalgia? A way to learn about a time he is sorry he missed?

Now who else honors pedos and gives them status? Who worships the pedophile as a hero? Who seeks to dream lucidly about ascending to that storied rank of Pedophile?

EDIT: I away the reply from our most vaunted friend. I await your big words, and your shit excuses.

I can give you one out of two as I can be as sesquipedalian as any, though I cannot make an excuse for anything I have discussed herein. That is because according to Oxford, an excuse is a "a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence", and I have not any any fault or offence on my part in this thread.

As to equivocating the study of Attic Greek with paedophilia ostensibly account of certain customs, that is a thinly veiled ad-hominem that does not warrant a reply on my part nor shall you receive future replies from me. You blotted your copybook with such antics.

Your post has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. Thank you for your time and efforts.
 
Hróðvitnisson said:
Crazy Pacer said:
Actually the Pederasty angle may explain why our Wizard friend is working so feverishly to learn Attic Greek. Fucking children was normal enough to be expected in ancient Greece, especially in Sparta. It was actually abnormal to abstain from molesting children. They actually honored child molesters and gave them status.

Perhaps it's his own form of nostalgia? A way to learn about a time he is sorry he missed?

Now who else honors pedos and gives them status? Who worships the pedophile as a hero? Who seeks to dream lucidly about ascending to that storied rank of Pedophile?

EDIT: I away the reply from our most vaunted friend. I await your big words, and your shit excuses.

I can give you one out of two as I can be as sesquipedalian as any, though I cannot make an excuse for anything I have discussed herein. That is because according to Oxford, an excuse is a "a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence", and I have not any any fault or offence on my part in this thread.

As to equivocating the study of Attic Greek with paedophilia ostensibly account of certain customs, that is a thinly veiled ad-hominem that does not warrant a reply on my part nor shall you receive future replies from me. You blotted your copybook with such antics.

Oh fuck off, you can hardly call anyone out on logical fallacies after some of those arguments you made.
 
I'm just going to say it: You guys are embarrassing me.

This is not how you handle a foreign body. These guys are joining up with the sole, expressed purpose of pissing people off and your immediate reaction is to write up 8 paragraph essays frothing at the mouth with pure rage. It's like you can't help yourselves, you can't just chill out and ask questions that would yield productive answers.

I could have just banned these two wizard guys that joined up, and in retrospect I should have, but I didn't because I thought it would be good entertainment like with Rika. I don't think the majority of people can handle the responsibility of not flipping shit when an extremist expresses their views.
 
I'm not going to unlock the thread yet, but I would like to say something about when I do eventually unlock it:

Make sure that if anything like that happens again, contact me, Saney, or one of the global mods or admins rather than starting an 8-page debate. Arguing with an idiot isn't worth it.
 
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