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what do you mean by "more effective"? rifles and shotguns both get the job done perfectly adequately.

Sub 30 yards a shotgun will be way more destructive no argument. People survive rifles in 5.56 all the time, but a load of buck or large birdshot...

I will always, always stan for the Remington 870 Wingmaster made in the 70's and 80's. Not hard to find used copies in good to excellent...