hoe_math / Justin Quirici / Justin Careesi - "HISTORY'S MANLIEST HILARIOUS SEX GENIUS", Makes autistic charts, kicked off the cunt carousel, Chubby Chaser, "discriminated" against for being a white male, wants the Bible to be rewritten, COVID RUINED HIS DREAM JOB!

I suspect it's hoe_math earlier in his 30s (likely pre-COVID mental breakdown), but am mostly guessing. He still talks about being peak gym rat fitness around 24-25.

I thought I've heard him discuss this photo as being "fitter in my 30s than now", but still not 20s fit.

He got bi-polar written all over him with a generous helping of 'tism. Shaved chest and all.

Also I'm surprised Rich Cooper doesn't have a thread here given these were what his days of conquest looked like on his path to supreme masculine chieftan alphahood.

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Apparently there’s old video of before/after of Tupac getting redpilled?

Tupac nice guy tax payer phase. Shock-G said he was still completely nuts then if someone wound him up.

Sort of what women say that, behind every nice guy routine is...
 
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hoe_math addressed his hate for vidya and anime on his Rich Cooper interview yesterday

He feels that society is broken and needs fixing, but instead young men are pursuing unhelpful escapism and wasteful hedonism.

So Cooper asked him how he spent his productive free time now that he gave up his vidya with the OG Xbox and Halo 2 twenty years ago.

hoe_math's retort?

???"I used the time instead to learn how to sing in my car while delivering pizzas"???

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Rich Cooper interview, Apr 1st, 2024 43m53s

Rich Cooper YT interview link

hm can't see the world fixing itself if it falls back on escapism, feeling good/hedonism
RC - Replacement hobbies?
hm - replacements IRL much more productive, just as fun
Replacements
- started learning guitar at 16, improved a lot with quitting vidya in early aughts (not in clip, but gave up vidya with OG Xbox/Halo 2)
- "I learned to sing in the car while delivering pizzas", now practices much more at home
- reads and studies a lot
- learned to read music
- uses spreadsheets to "figure things out"
- currently using spreadsheets of "all musical notes", analyzing frequencies and ratios between notes and perceived emotional reactions (heroism, sadness, royalty, etc)
- not in clip, but Cooper goes on to ask him if he was ever diagnosed on the spectrum
- hm "No", but doctors unsolicitedly ask him due to lack of eye contact, affect, mannerisms
I'm about to have the hottest take of all time: you can do both. Meet in the middle if you will. If you cannot meet in the middle in a relationship it is doomed. You can have your Halo 2 and a wife. You will most likely have to compromise on something however.

This argument also makes the assumption that ZERO (0) women like any of the hobbies that you as a guy like. That is flat wrong, and if you have any level of experience dating you will realize this is caveman levels of retarded ignorance.
 
Because HM decided to kick the hornet's nest by pissing off half of his audience which are young men by saying anime is bad and comparing to pup play
It is hilarious how almost every right wing grifter has their audience turn on them the moment they go after anime.
???"I used the time instead to learn how to sing in my car while delivering pizzas"?
Bet it wasn't even chanting or opera, probably some fast food music.
 
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Reviewing some of the YT comments from hoe_math's interview on Rich Cooper's channel yesterday, Apr 1st, 2025.

Cooper is still slightly bigger than hoe_math, 738k subs to about 676k.

Episode has about 15k views in less than 24 hours.

Some selected comments from the peanut gallery. Commenters seem more like Rich's fans than "Matt's" (or "Moff's"??).

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First Cooper watcher is not a fan of "Moff"?? and his weak beta male voice. Had to immediately turn off the show and demand to know why "The Unplugged Alpha" is platforming undeserving soyboys like "Moff"

Rich does the Alpha thing by offering to organize and fund a boxing ring so betabuxx Moff can bash his face in and reclaim his honor.

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Cut off some irrelevant personal carsperging at the end.

Commenter perhaps picked up on the nuances that weak beta Moff (Matt?) with no interest in fast cars or multiplying like rabbits may not be Alpha enough for this crew.

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This commenter agrees with Rich that it isn't Alpha to fuck your fans.

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Envious sperg (or normie) resents fellow Chad sperg hoe_math for both being a unicorn autist manwhore and indifferent towards continuing the exalted path.

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Pen sperg shows up in Rich's comments. Strange because there were several in hoemath's solo livestream chat as well last night. Unless they are one in the same.

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Conspiratard is not offended that hoe_math has gone down the rabbit hole blaming the Joos for the fall of the West and his dating woes. But disappointed that hoe_math's conspiracy journey didn't go far enough and stopped at antisemtism when it's actually the "Aristocrat/Royals" who are the true culprits.

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This one needs a little context.

In the Rich Cooper interview, hoe_math talked about how Western media had been a misandrist psyop for decades, constantly showing dopey beta husbands being screeched at by harpie, girlboss wives.

In particular, hoe_math chose Everybody Loves Raymond as his flagship example (also showing that hoe_math stopped following pop culture around the same time 25 years ago that he gave up his OG Xbox/Halo)

In the interview, hoe_math talked about how wife Deborah screaming "You Idiot!" at a bumbling emasculated Ray Romano every episode was a seminal example of cultural subversion and also demonstrated all the signs of a high probability of the predictive factors of divorce.

He then referenced John Gottman, some academic that did research on divorce by taking IRL couples and placing them in Bed & Breakfasts while studying their behavior patterns, later compiling factors predictive of divorce.

hoe_math referenced that Everyone Loves Raymond's portrayed relationships had 10/10 of the predictive traits.

Cooper interjected that he read some Gottman and found him lacking in aspects I can't recall.




- Cooper runs a Ladies Night podcast and says 85% of women they platform are irredeemable
- they talk about media promotes hedonism in women, modern fathers are overmatched vs media on their daughters, even if they are strong, daughters are disobedient
- hoe_math says he's "conspiracy minded", gets more paranoid when stressed
- hoe_math thinks media has deliberately portrayed emasculated men as a psyop
- hm things Everybody Loves Raymond is cardinal example, reviewed as such in Psych classes in aughts
- hm cites divorce researcher John Gottman as source of divorce factors
- Cooper listened to Gottman on audiobook in his car, disagreed with some of his more beta takes such as cuddling with a woman who just denied you sex or asking your female partner "What more can I do?" if similarly denied
- hoe_math doesn't believe women telling men "doing chores [for me] is sexy" is actually true/works
- hoe_math compares competing forces of media/Western culture promoting hedonism for women - parties, drinking, fun vs morality and discipline from fathers- makes them seem Amish
- hoe_math regretful his parents didn't teach him anything
- "I'd ask to be taught things as a child does. They told me that's the responsibility of school & TV"

TL;DR/DW - This YT commenter is claiming that the divorce academic John Gottman that hoe_math referenced and Rich Cooper doubted was completely dominated by his IRL wife when she met him at an IRL seminar, supporting Cooper's suspicions.

Addendum: Info on John Gottman

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John Gottman appears to be a living 82 y/o semi-retired pscyhologist who lives with his Julie wife, 73, in WA.

Gottman is Orthodox Jewish and his wife looks very Jewish as well (nee Schwartz)

They have a Gottman Institute YT channel with 178k subs.

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They also have their own website with bios

He claims over 5 decades of research into factors predicting divorce.

The "Gottman Method" seems to take this purported Minority Report ability to forecast marital breakdown to apply it as some sort of framework for couples therapy. They have a videoon their site that claimed their modeling also applies somehow to LGBT relationships and ?potential DV situations
 
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Cut off some irrelevant personal carsperging at the end.

Commenter perhaps picked up on the nuances that weak beta Moff (Matt?) with no interest in fast cars or multiplying like rabbits may not be Alpha enough for this crew.

Matt is trapped here between generational audiences. Oldfags on HGH sniffing each other's farts and LARPing as gladiators that need cars(?) built by other men and ritual combat fantasy.

But Matt more resembles his audience and late millenial/zoomer not giving a shit about attaching your entire sense of manhood to a random vehicle or offspring that will be severely handicapped. I suspect the no-legacy thing is the tell that he's got the biggie and it runs in the family - these dudes are always selling the idea of progeny if you are buying whatever they are selling.
 
Matt is trapped here between generational audiences. Oldfags on HGH sniffing each other's farts and LARPing as gladiators that need cars(?) built by other men and ritual combat fantasy.

But Matt more resembles his audience and late millenial/zoomer not giving a shit about attaching your entire sense of manhood to a random vehicle or offspring that will be severely handicapped.

There were actually quite a few car-related tidbits in hoe_math's recent Lives

From the Cooper interview
- Cooper did some car talk, hoe_math lamented "I'll have a cool car one of these day"
- there was the "Young man!, don’t consume vidya and anime, Learn to sing in your car doing gig job delivering pizza like me" quote that I posted earlier
- he talked about part of his desire to remain anonymous is that he lived in "the best neighborhood" in a major city during BLM/George Floyd riots, only to have a major crime wave sweep his street in "one day", suddenly seeing carjackings, assaults and gunshots from his bedroom window
- he talked about leaving his old apartment and living out of his car, AirBnBs & couchsurfing with friends between Aug '24 & Dec '24, before choosing his new home state and rental. He claims to have done serial cross-country tours, visiting every pretty and tax-free potential state that interested him twice
- he revealed that it was his mother that provided him with a hand-me-down Toyota Corolla that he used as his gig Uber/Lyft chariot
- he called himself not a "car guy", but a "car relier"

In the little bit of his solo Apr 1st live that I actually listened to

- admits to driving a generic light SUV presently
- wants to buy a proper bigger SUV to better be able to nature that he won't shut up about
- really wants to buy a Jeep, but everyone he's told discourages him that they are shit
- also loves Toyota 4-Runner ?Hybrids? for their range, power and towing capacity
- would never want to own a luxury vehicle like a Lamborghini - sees it as expensive & wasteful, would just keep it parked in the garage to preserve it
- drove a Tesla S one time - was bored to tears within 10 mins despite all the hype
 
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HM's been talking about changing his professional handle for around a year and half. He's concerned that the offensiveness of the name limits his shareability among women and normies.

Most of his audience is supportive of the change. People give him suggestions weekly. "Soul_math" seems to be the decided frontrunner, but like many themes in his life, he's indecisive about pulling the trigger or remaining based.





A clip from hoe_math on Fresh & Fit yesterday on April 2nd, 2025 22min.

Nothing particularly revelatory in the episode. I skimmed the YT comments and found nothing particularly interesting. F&F's audience seemed much more receptive to hoe_math than Rich Cooper's the day before. Maybe a generational thing. The F&F hosts talked about being mid-30s, about 5 years younger than hoe_math.

Here's a clip though of hoe_math confirming he's still waffling on changing the "hoe_math" branding to "Soul_math" to placate normies and women to try to branch out to a more female audience.

Not in the clip, but he did mention on the episode that his audience split is still 90/10 male 18 months in.

He also mentioned his more based male audience members have threatened to unsub if he drops the meme title for soc ju appeasement.
 
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Here's a clip though of hoe_math confirming he's still waffling on changing the "hoe_math" branding to "Soul_math" to placate normies and women to try to branch out to a more female audience.

Not in the clip, but he did mention on the episode that his audience split is still 90/10 male 18 months in.

He also mentioned his more based male audience members have threatened to unsub if he drops the meme title for soc ju appeasement.

One taste of female approval and he's got a plan to throw it all away to try to get more. Grifter's bane.

Also LOL@chakra he's gonna be selling healing crystals before this is all over.
 
hoe_math was on for multiple segments with Fresh&Fit yesterday, including a public interview which I clipped from earlier, a paywalled Zoom call and an After Hours segment with a panel of women (that I haven't watched yet).

The regular YT interview segment comment section wasn't very interesting and was almost unanimously pro-hoe_math.

The comment section for the After Hours women panel segment is essentially entirely people complaining that they hate the 304s, that Myron didn't let hoe_math cook and that the show format is very tired and repetitive.

There was one guy in the comments who was very insistent that hoe_math was live in the flesh in the Miami studio with a mask on off-camera, but I didn't see any evidence of that in the solo interview portion.

A few other comments

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Spergy machinist really bothered that hoe_math isn't using digital means to space out his custom handdrawn graphs perfectly, claiming he could do it better.

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After watching a little bit of the episode, this was the chart with hoemath's inability to draw straight grid lines that triggered Mr. Machinist so much.

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hoe_math derisively being compared to Andrew Wilson. Never heard that one before. Guess someone else has seen some of Matt's lukewarm agnostic takes.

Edit: After watching the start of the episode with the bleach blonde praising Jesus for her reality TV career, hoe_math suddenly seeming pious like Andrew Wilson makes more sense.
 
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Nothing really special going, he's ripping on women that like astrology
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Him ripping on astrology girlies given in his 2023 stream he talks about his horoscope sign after one of his paypigs gifts him 100 dollars in total during the stream.
For those curious he's an aries, but in the extended version he's sun aries, moon aries and lion ascendant. Meaning, he was likely born around March 21st to April 19th,
but if we were to compare two other celebs that share the same signs/birth charts as as him it's probably very likely he was born in late March.
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It's also ironic despite his constant ripping on astrology giries he unironically has autistic knowledge about astrology.
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But I guess he does the whole "The thing you like is bad except when I do it" schitck.

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hoe_math addressed his hate for vidya and anime on his Rich Cooper interview yesterday

He feels that society is broken and needs fixing, but instead young men are pursuing unhelpful escapism and wasteful hedonism.

So Cooper asked him how he spent his productive free time now that he gave up his vidya with the OG Xbox and Halo 2 twenty years ago.
Guy is exactly the same as a porn whore who gets famous sucking dick then wants to be taken seriously.

You dont get to do the exact opposite you preach for a huge chunk of your life and then be taken serious.


3) Apparently there’s old video of before/after of Tupac getting redpilled?
Guessing probably like this;

 


April 2nd, 2025, Fresh&Fit After Hours, 18mins Rumble Link

hoe_math asks a TV reality star what it's like out there dating right now after COVID (as he's been in his basement hiding from the world for half a decade). It mostly devolves into complaining about social media, the annoyances of being a D-list? celebrity and a very superficial relationship with Jesus.
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Savannah Miller, 24
Occupation - reality TV actress, model, entrepeneur
Instagram
Appeared on Season 7 of The Circle on Netflix (Sept 2024)
Relationship Status - "it's complicated", in a situationship with fellow actor from the show, no kids
Not on contraception - "Birth control gave me a brain tumor"
She apparently had neurosurgery for a brain tumor 3-4 years ago with a "titanium plate in the back of my head"
Originally from East Texas - Texarkana/Longview, now living in FL
Parents - separated
Education - Texas Tech, double major - Marketing/Advertising & Business Communications
Fourth appearance on F&F
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Kevin "K Fern" Fernandez
Instagram (won't archive for some reason)

Article about her relationship with castmate Kevin Fernandez
Apparently filming wrapped on their show in 2023 and they continued facetiming daily as of Oct 2024

She claims to run a clothing business called Savage, which sounds like some sort of decluttering/consignment business model.
Savannah, 24 - "Everyone is too obsessed with social media"
"Every time they get bored, they just go in their DMs"
"Disrupted what love & commitment was supposed to be
Savannah, reality TV actress dating fellow actor on show
"Everything in public makes everything a lot more scary"
hm - "You have to appear available for your career?"
hm - "Does dating in public eye as celebrities make the relationship less stable?
SM - "Our fans want us to stay together. All our fans are either 13 or 50, no in between." Fans want to keep them shipped.
Sometimes gets jealous due to other temptations in industry or scripted romantic scenes in filming
Myron Gaines - "Do you even look at regular guys anymore?"
SM - "I look at everybody. It's not all about looks"
SM - It's all social media, going through feed, abs, abs, abs
MG - Men don't benefit at all from social media
SM - "That's a lie"
"Men are just jacking off to PornHub anyway"
hm - "Does porn use in men affect dating availability?"
SM - "Of for sure. It affects the brain. There's studies"
SM - Is an avowed Christian, does not believe in porn
hm - "Do attractive guys still have the need for porn?"
SM - "I don't think it matters what you look like for porn use. That's why I try not to look at guys' faces. I'm a Christian and something non-negotiable is that you "Know God". If you don't know God, you don't know love"
SM - Did have sex before marriage despite Christianity.

SM - "I'm still party, crazy, fun" but you can still have morals
SM - doesn't do OF
SM - her relationship with God is non-negotiable, her man needs to "know God"
hm - "What does Knowing God mean to you?"
SM - reading the Bible, communicating with him, "hard to put into words until you've done it"
SM - meditates, seeks answers, "I always get them, but don't always like it"
SM - firm believer that people can change
SM - survived near fatal car accident, multiple near death experiences
hm - "Does God have stuff you have to do? It sounds like your relationship with God is you getting benefits"
SM - faith in God is not a checklist, it's not all benefits, it comes with a lot more negatives because you have to give up everything. If I didn't know God, I'd be out drinking, partying and doing OF. This may pay off in the end and if it doesn't, I've lived a life of honesty
hm - Your relationship with God has changed you?
SM - I've changed so much. Everytime I come on F&F I'm a new person. Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I'm perfect. I need help.
SM - "WOO! Praise Jesus!
"Birth control gave me a brain tumor"
"Reality TV show fans are either 13 or 50, no in between"
"My man has to Know God"
"If you don't know God, you don't know love"
"I meditate and ask God for answers. He always delivers everytime"
hm - "It sounds as though your relationship with God is all you getting stuff, all benefits. Is there stuff you have to do?"
"I still party, be crazy, have fun. But you can still have morals"
 
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The reason a guy like cooper or fresh and fit are so cringe is cause they are selling lies. They say that all you need to do to get women is just to hold the frame bro. Just be a redpilled alpha with confidence and they will come to you bro. While in reality Richard cooper is a sad divorce and Fresh and fit hire hookers to pose as their girlfriends.

They try to tell people who look like this to just be more masculine.
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The reality only a select few men can be "alpha" like that beacuse they have the looks same with women. The more attractive you are to your partner the more shit they will put up with. Dosen't matter if you don't take shit or talk a big game.
 
The reason a guy like cooper or fresh and fit are so cringe is cause they are selling lies. They say that all you need to do to get women is just to hold the frame bro. Just be a redpilled alpha with confidence and they will come to you bro. While in reality Richard cooper is a sad divorce and Fresh and fit hire hookers to pose as their girlfriends.

They try to tell people who look like this to just be more masculine.
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The reality only a select few men can be "alpha" like that beacuse they have the looks same with women. The more attractive you are to your partner the more shit they will put up with. Dosen't matter if you don't take shit or talk a big game.
Come on bro, you don’t look that bad. Shave that gay neckbeard and lose face fat and you’ll be “alpha” too…

…only to discover that women aren’t men and have different preferences.
 


New content drop on his main channel.

It's a video trying to answer the question "How many bodies are too many?"

The response video reviews his breakdown of a very intricate formula trying to quantify the components of body count and "Purity"

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It's honestly a lot more autistic than his usual stuff.

Not sure what to make of it. How much of it is serious analysis and how much of it is silly tongue-in-cheek wit?




This clip from the full video has hoe_math explaining his Purity category that includes body count among other factors.

He shares a personal anecdote where he brought a date to a scenic lookout where she proceeds to fake that she'd never been there before to be polite? And this is an example of Modesty and Purity???




The end of the video officially announced that all his livestreams are going behind the member paywall.

Fans now have to pay a minimum $1/month to view them.

He directly mentions again about obsessing over small 2-digit sub losses after streams and believes a significant portion of his audience hates them and simply wants to watch shortform scripted content.

He also makes the fairly incredulous claim that he'd prefer to make the lowest tier of YT memberships free to keep his streams public, but alas YT is forcing him to charge you.

He has also created tiered memberships all the way up to an Elite $25/month where if he gets enough of them, he will sometimes close chat to all but his whales. Also something about direct access to him for the finest paypigs through exclusive Elite Discord channels.

TBH, hoe_math might be right about most of his audience not caring about streams or caring about free hangouts suddenly requiring a subscription.

The YT comments barely mentioned anything about the streams or the paywalls . Instead it was all the same old echo chamber about body counts.

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"I didn't want to tax you all, my evil YT masters made me do it!"

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Mr. Sex Genius doesn't know what a VOD or livestream channel is?

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For only $2 a stream, you too can make sure your local folkhero cartoon philosopher doesn't go to bed hungry tonight!

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Fame definitely not going to Mr. math's head.

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"people HATE [my livestreams]. people tell me CONSTANTLY like "stop doing so many livestream I only want regular videos"

"the livestream fanbase is not big. [sic] probly 10% or less"

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"changing to paid streams will allow me to do more regional content"

Not revelatory, but confirmation that his worldwide audience is still mostly Burger
 
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being 190 lbs at ideal fitness, still being 80% of his peak fitness now
190 at 6 feet tall? that means this nigga at least 200, he's fat.
for both being a unicorn autist manwhore
100 isn't that high for a guy his age who by the numbers has rarely had sex since he hit 30, he admitted that the majority of his body count is from when he was in college, honestly i wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't had sex in over a decade.
For those curious he's an aries, but in the extended version he's sun aries, moon aries and lion ascendant.
pretty crazy he doxes himself like that.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, total retard war has broke on haggot_math's Twitter. Why is it, you ask? Because HM decided to kick the hornet's nest by pissing off half of his audience which are young men by saying anime is bad and comparing to pup play. It all started with him retweeting a video posted by Ian Miles Cheong featuring a man doing pup play and asking if somebody can explain to him what is this.

HM proceeded to respond with most lefty meme text response.
One of the apparent things that comes across from watching his early interviews from 18 months back right as he was breaking out is that he does suffer from some delusions of grandeur (there are also some screenshots in the OP suggesting he may have had manic episodes in his youth, both being traits of Bipolar Disorder. Also his constant fatigue/sadness/irritability).

Continuing on themes of delusions of grandeur and hoe_math's ego, I thought this part from his MattWalsh-esque "Old Man Yells at Cloud" boomer tier spergout last week over anime and vidya was kind of glossed over and deserves highlighting.

From @Inside your walls 's post

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A while ago, @MattWalshBlog stated (perhaps rhetorically rather than conversationally) that he felt that anime was satanic, though he could not explain why. I offered to explain why in exchange for exposure, which isn't coming (I guess), so I'll reveal the throughline now: Leftists actively hate their own free will. All of this weird shit they do? Those are attempts to rid themselves of responsibility. They don't want to be held accountable for anything. You know, like what we complain about in typical immature women. I'm a dog = I'm just a dumb animal, care for me! (this is why children's cartoons are always animals; animal nature = child nature = innocent = no free will) I'm actually a woman = I'm valuable because I exist, not because of what I DO! Games = I still have to play and learn! I'm not a grown-up yet! Communism = Guarantee me an income even if I do nothing! Even most homosexuality = I'm in the girl's role now! This happens TO me, not because I EARNED it, but because I'm HERE! What does this have to do with anime? Well, there's a reason I use cartoons in my videos. It's because they're simple. Like games. Like A-B-C, 1-2-3. Cartoons are a way of depicting ONLY the parts of something that you want people to look at.

In his wall of text Anime hate posting, he mentions in passing that he personally reached out to Matt Walsh via DMs or hashtags that he wanted to appear on his Daily Wire show with payment in "exposure" in exchange for revealing to Matt Walsh and his goy audience some secret knowledge.

Having been left on read, hoe_math, seemingly still seething, finally imparts on us this transactional pearl of wisdom on the house;

"Leftists actively hate their own free will"

Gee, thanks Mr. Cartoonist Sex Genius, that was definitely worth the wait and the price of admission. I'm sure Matt Walsh and The Daily Wire are really kicking themselves.


AFAICT, Matt Walsh left him on read a second time despite the callout.

Bonus points that within the same excerpt, he:

- calls the majority of women on the planet "immature"
- compares women to dumb, helpless, dependent dogs??
- surmises that cartoon characters usually being anthropomorphic animals is the fault of communists and hoes
- accuses most women of being entitled and undeserving
- lumps gay men into similarly being undeserving entities LARPing as useless women
- insults his own audience by admitting that he too uses childish cartoons because it's the only way you simpletons could ever understand his genius

Edit: To follow-up on the original Anime & Vidya hate rant, this is the Ian Miles Cheong vid tweet last week that somehow set him off inexplicably

 
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