9/16/2021 - Court case gets a continuance

[GypsyBard]

The problem isn't being tarded, but being disobedient.

I know what you mean. My brother is autistic and has been working at Wendy's for about 15 years. If you were to ask his coworkers about him they would say he's a great employee who always shows up on time never misses a day and is nice and quiet.
He is really frugal only really spending money aside from bills and food on vinyl records which he collects. In fact he recently bought a house and we have been helping him fix it up. He is I think 35 now and with the deal we struck with the bank by the time he's Chris's age it will be completely paid off.

The problem is not that Chris is autistic it's that he's lazy rude and has an ego the size of Detroit. Simply put he absolutely refuses to work hard at anything or save money and if you try to suggest to him he do such then his ego will take over and he will sperg out

 

[King Kiwi]

I know what you mean. My brother is autistic and has been working at Wendy's for about 15 years. If you were to ask his coworkers about him they would say he's a great employee who always shows up on time never misses a day and is nice and quiet.
He is really frugal only really spending money aside from bills and food on vinyl records which he collects. In fact he recently bought a house and we have been helping him fix it up. He is I think 35 now and with the deal we struck with the bank by the time he's Chris's age it will be completely paid off.

The problem is not that Chris is autistic it's that he's lazy rude and has an ego the size of Detroit. Simply put he absolutely refuses to work hard at anything or save money and if you try to suggest to him he do such then his ego will take over and he will sperg out

Power to the level.

But good job for your brother, there's nothing wrong at all with being as independent as possible

 

[A Grey Cat]

Just to recap, the cops didn't initially arrest Chris after the report and just barred him from the house and took Barb in for a wellness check. Then about a day after, the cops arrested him.

To me, this doesn't look good, since it implies they found physical and/or other evidence from Barb. In addition to the fact that Barb has apparently not been charged along with Chris definitely suggests that it wasn't consensual.

I don't doubt that's a possibility but you also have to remember that Chris violated the epo which Boss reported to the authorities, and the counties from greene to herico were getting swamped with weens and orbiters.


The small town area sbetween ruckersville and outer Richmond suddenly found themselves at the center of a circus. People staking out the motel Chris was staying at, stealing his car's license plates when we left, and then the grande motherload was Ethan Ralph driving around bugging the staff and guests at the motel and then a mall Chris was supposedly seen at all while live streaming himself over the internet.

Add on how Chris Chan and some variants like chrischandidwhat was trending on Twitter, even over taking the Olympics in some places and I think Virginia was looking for any reason to put the big retard behind bars hoping it would make all the unwarranted attention go away.

 

[Chazzed Up]

I know what you mean. My brother is autistic and has been working at Wendy's for about 15 years. If you were to ask his coworkers about him they would say he's a great employee who always shows up on time never misses a day and is nice and quiet.
He is really frugal only really spending money aside from bills and food on vinyl records which he collects. In fact he recently bought a house and we have been helping him fix it up. He is I think 35 now and with the deal we struck with the bank by the time he's Chris's age it will be completely paid off.

The problem is not that Chris is autistic it's that he's lazy rude and has an ego the size of Detroit. Simply put he absolutely refuses to work hard at anything or save money and if you try to suggest to him he do such then his ego will take over and he will sperg out

The funny thing is he's so lazy and irresponsible that he couldn't even fulfill his Etsy orders once he stopped being intetested in it and got distracted with toys/vidya again. Making things with crayons and clay (probably at a loss, no less) was more than he was willing to commit to as a job. Etsy is full of delusional people who think their homemade crap can be fulltime income but Chris put in even less effort than that.

 

[Lancelout]

You bet your ass there will be! After all, if OJ is innocent, Michael was just looking for pals and the 2020 election was stolen, then hells yea there’s gonna still be gravy for Chrissy. Just not quite as much I would imagine.

Hasnt multiple trials and lawsuits shown michael was innocent though ?

Even passing knowledge of the cases suggests that

 

[D_Tractor]

I don't doubt that's a possibility but you also have to remember that Chris violated the epo which Boss reported to the authorities, and the counties from greene to herico were getting swamped with weens and orbiters.


The small town area sbetween ruckersville and outer Richmond suddenly found themselves at the center of a circus. People staking out the motel Chris was staying at, stealing his car's license plates when we left, and then the grande motherload was Ethan Ralph driving around bugging the staff and guests at the motel and then a mall Chris was supposedly seen at all while live streaming himself over the internet.

Add on how Chris Chan and some variants like chrischandidwhat was trending on Twitter, even over taking the Olympics in some places and I think Virginia was looking for any reason to put the big retard behind bars hoping it would make all the unwarranted attention go away.

Why didn't the prosecution mention him violating the EPO during his arraignment? I don't think it has anything to do with his arrest. They found cummies in mummy.

 

[bbqtool]

Hasnt multiple trials and lawsuits shown michael was innocent though ?

Even passing knowledge of the cases suggests that

Michael was autistic too

 

[Muu]

Guys that was my OC who posted that question not me.

 

[anti SJW]

I can only imagine the bitchfit he will be throwing until his hearing.

It won't be as bad as the bitchfit Chris will have after the hearing when He finds out He still has to stay in jail.

 

[Eydallur]

@Phalanges Mycologist, internet wasn't the reason, it was just a symptom. If there was one thing that could help him it's special ed and good therapist, who Chandlers would take Chris to for actual help, not just to hear "the boy is fine". However, history does not tolerate the subjunctive - maybe he was doomed from the start, maybe he wasn't, we will never know.

This is so naive it hurts a little to read. Is that what people mean by cringe?
I've got an autist in my family. Like Chris born to out of touch older parents but unlike Chris he was sent to special ed and a therapist. Want to know what difference it made? Fuck all.
He would've been better off being bullied in a regular classroom instead of nonchalantly meandering his way through an education on ez modo that got him nowhere that neither encouraged the development of marketable skills or disincentivized his spergy habits.
At least this kid has a job and works full time but like Chris he's completely insufferable, no one likes having him around and as a consequence of his loneliness he's developing some severe issues.

Special ed and therapy isn't some magic pill. In the best case scenario it may help to mitigate difficulties that make a normal education unreasonably challenging and prevent the development of personality disorders but you only need to look at the number of trannies attending therapy to understand it's a rotten business that has a horrible track record of treating pathological behavior.

What does have a pretty phenomenal track record however is parenting.

There's this absurd idea that you owe your child independence from you so that they might explore the world as much as possible on their own terms in order to "know themselves" which for some reason is a prerequisite to living an authentic life. I don't know exactly where this bullshit originates from but I suspect boomers since this is in keeping with the self centered, entitled worldview so often found among members of that generation.
Few things are more destructive to a child, in particular an autistic child, than the abandonment of your responsibilities to them. Abdicating your role as a parent and relying on figures outside the household to impart some sort of ethic when no one but you has the same duty of care is moronic in the extreme. Doesn't matter if it's a therapist or some random kids at the game place, the one who should be maintaining open dialogue, paying attention to your kid's development and correcting them when required is you.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

This is so naive it hurts a little to read. Is that what people mean by cringe?
I've got an autist in my family. Like Chris born to out of touch older parents but unlike Chris he was sent to special ed and a therapist. Want to know what difference it made? Fuck all.
He would've been better off being bullied in a regular classroom instead of nonchalantly meandering his way through an education on ez modo that got him nowhere that neither encouraged the development of marketable skills or disincentivized his spergy habits.
At least this kid has a job and works full time but like Chris he's completely insufferable, no one likes having him around and as a consequence of his loneliness he's developing some severe issues.

Special ed and therapy isn't some magic pill. In the best case scenario it may help to mitigate difficulties that make a normal education unreasonably challenging and prevent the development of personality disorders but you only need to look at the number of trannies attending therapy to understand it's a rotten business that has a horrible track record of treating pathological behavior.

What does have a pretty phenomenal track record however is parenting.

So you have your own Chris and don't want to share with us? Shame.

 

[Eydallur]

So you have your own Chris and don't want to share with us? Shame.

You might also conclude I'm a lonely frustrated manchild grown old who came out the other end with a lot of bitterness and instrospection who now likes to play it off when commenting on Chris Chan hahahaha can you even believe someone would be so dumb? btw my friend is a lonely virgin what can I do to help him?

Or I just care a tiny little bit about my extended family so I don't at least bring their names up when trash talking them online for all the world to see. Either way you read it is fine by me.
I was going to get this guy The Classic for his birthday a couple years ago but besides not being nearly evil enough I'm also a cheap bastard. Hit me up with a link to a cheap knock-off and I will.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

You might also conclude I'm a lonely frustrated manchild grown old who came out the other end with a lot of bitterness and instrospection who now likes to play it off when commenting on Chris Chan hahahaha can you even believe someone would be so dumb? btw my friend is a lonely virgin what can I do to help him?

What? No.

Or I just care a tiny little bit about my extended family so I don't at least bring their names up when trash talking them online for all the world to see.

Is he really as bad as Chris though?

 

[Eydallur]

Is he really as bad as Chris though?

No. For one he's not a rapist. He also isn't a retard like Chris and doesn't share every embarrassing detail about his life with the internet, just those unfortunate to be locked in conversation with him. In other respects though I worry.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

No. For one he's not a rapist. He also isn't a retard like Chris and doesn't share every embarrassing detail about his life with the internet, just those unfortunate to be locked in conversation with him. In other respects though I worry.

You said that special ED and therapy did fuck all, but he doesn't seem too bad.

 

[lowenergy]

You know, I wonder why the defense requested more time to evaluate his mental state...its pretty fucking obvious that Chris is no enigma (and lets face it, both sides have a literal wiki and online documentary to get info out of). Perhaps they are REALLY working hard to try to gather evidence for an insanity plea (even tho Chris shows a lot of times he is actually rather sane, at least in the legal sense where he shows signs he was aware that doing certain things was wrong and yet did them anyway), his defense might be "good" but I dont think he is a miracle maker, he knows they already "lost" the case, now its a matter of getting the lesser sentence for his client and Chris is probably NOT fucking helping at all when they do conversate...probably throwing non sense about toys and stuff when asked very important questions. And its not even an insanity thing, its simply because Chris doesnt care, in his eyes this whole thing will eventually solve itself like the last 2 times he was on court, so why put effort in proving his innocence?

TL;DR: I think this isnt a good sign for the defense, it hints that they are really trying to build a case for the insanity plea and Chris is probably not helping at all

While it could be a sign that the defense is putting all its efforts into building a case based on insanity, I think it’s important to also consider the obligations that attorneys have when working on cases such as Chris’. I would guess that any attorney who had a client like Chris, with a long history of weird rituals and beliefs, would essentially need to get mental health evaluations done or risk being accused of being ineffective down the line during an appeal process. A lawyer’s most important duty is representing their clients as best as they are able, and it seems Chris lucked out with one that is knowledgeable and experienced. I believe it’s just a sign that his lawyer is following all the steps he needs to take to provide the best defense.

It’s also important to consider that there are delays in most courtroom processes due to covid. Trials are taking longer than ever because of all the restrictions, and I think that’s getting even worse with the numbers increasing recently. It’s not as simple as requesting a mental health evaluation and getting it the next day. There’s a limited number of psychiatrists that are contracted with the state, and they have to fit in all mental health evaluations. Even if Chris’ lawyer springs for his own psychiatrist for a mental health eval, they usually have one done by the state as well. It all takes time. Chris is likely not cooperating though, you are correct, and that certainly won’t be helping the process either.

 

[A Grey Cat]

While it could be a sign that the defense is putting all its efforts into building a case based on insanity, I think it’s important to also consider the obligations that attorneys have when working on cases such as Chris’. I would guess that any attorney who had a client like Chris, with a long history of weird rituals and beliefs, would essentially need to get mental health evaluations done or risk being accused of being ineffective down the line during an appeal process. A lawyer’s most important duty is representing their clients as best as they are able, and it seems Chris lucked out with one that is knowledgeable and experienced. I believe it’s just a sign that his lawyer is following all the steps he needs to take to provide the best defense.

It’s also important to consider that there are delays in most courtroom processes due to covid. Trials are taking longer than ever because of all the restrictions, and I think that’s getting even worse with the numbers increasing recently. It’s not as simple as requesting a mental health evaluation and getting it the next day. There’s a limited number of psychiatrists that are contracted with the state, and they have to fit in all mental health evaluations. Even if Chris’ lawyer springs for his own psychiatrist for a mental health eval, they usually have one done by the state as well. It all takes time. Chris is likely not cooperating though, you are correct, and that certainly won’t be helping the process either.

Really we can only imagine the nightmare his lawyer, the jail and the courts are going through to try and get through that thick skull of his how serious this situation is, and to stop it with the damn "dimension merge" bullshit, and claims of being some goddess with superpowers cause it's not helping his case for mental illness it only makes him look like a terrible actor trying to fool them.

 

[lowenergy]

Really we can only imagine the nightmare his lawyer, the jail and the courts are going through to try and get through that thick skull of his how serious this situation is, and to stop it with the damn "dimension merge" bullshit, and claims of being some goddess with superpowers cause it's not helping his case for mental illness it only makes him look like a terrible actor trying to fool them.

I can’t imagine. I’ve been trying to decide whether a mental health evaluation would benefit or hurt his case. After meeting with/listening to Chris sperg on and on about the dimensional merge, Sonichu, and how raping his mom provided relief from her dementia, will a psychiatrist proclaim him totally divorced from reality, or just a retarded manchild who has been enabled for far too long? I think you’re right, it will only make him seem like he is trying too hard to be declared mentally ill.

I’m not sure that will have any positive effect on his case though…he clearly had some idea about the legal concepts of right/wrong when he was committing the crime in question. Not only that, but being declared incompetent to stand trial doesn’t mean the charges go away. Defendants are just sent to hospital prisons and treated until they are competent to stand trial. I wonder what an appropriately medicated Chris would look like.

 

[UCantCCPMe]

I'm not a lawyer, but I did listen to some lawyering binaural beats, so I feel qualified to atleast posit a few points.

A continuance could be just what Chris' attorney needs to craft a viable defense. Barring medically damning evidence (IE vaginal bruising, ect.) or Chris outright spilling the beans to the cops, a good lawyer could argue away most of the other stuff in this case. Even if he can't convince the court that the vc admission to ol fungus tits is coercion, he could argue that Chris believed what he was doing was necessary, as ridiculous as that may sound. It's sort of like "Your honor, I had to pull the trigger, they kidnapped my family and threatened to execute my children if I didn't" style of duress. Not to mention that Chris has in the past been convinced to do things against his better judgement, such as the events of the Idea Guy saga or drawing himself dicking Sonichu in the ass the make his fantasy daughter. It's a longshot, but his lawyer may be able to spin it as that Skanke convinced him not that it was right or moral, but necessary for some bigger goal like the fulfillment of some retarded prophecy. Even if they find DNA evidence, it could be argued as transfer DNA.

All in all, Chris may not get away scott free, maybe not even with a minor sentence, but there's a possibility his attorney could get him a sentence on the lower end of the sentencing guidelines. Maybe 2 or 3 years, out in 18 months with good behaviour. I will of course defer to our resident legal eagles. If what I'm suggesting sounds retarded and infeasible, I'll accept that.

 

[Eydallur]

You said that special ED and therapy did fuck all, but he doesn't seem too bad

I'd put that down to them starting off at different positions of the spectrum. I don't want to denigrate all therapists but finding one that is competent and able to devise a treatment strategy to which an autist will respond is a crapshoot and my point is that instead of rolling the dice hoping for a good outcome in therapy it is first and foremost the duty of the parents to tend to the (special) needs of their child regardless if institutional intervention is of any help and just like Chris, in the case of my family member their parents completely reneged on their duties, prefering not to have to deal with things they thought were difficult or couldn't be bothered to understand.