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Serious illness in Covid-19 presents pneumonia and accompanying respiratory insufficiency. Therefore typical symptoms include breathlessness, cough, weakness and fever. We’re also told that people who suffer deteriorating respiratory failure and who do not receive intensive care, develop acute respiratory distress syndrome with severe breathlessness.

Midozalam induces significant depression of respiration.

Knowing that would you use midazolam to treat people who were suffering pneumonia and respiratory insufficiency allegedly due to Covid-19?
 
Yes. That's exactly what happened. The FDA had a panel of respected doctors, who most importantly have no ties to Pfizer or any of the vaccine manufacturers, report on their finding and they shit on Pfizer and said the quiet part out loud. You are not imagining things. They are telling the FDA to slow the fuck down because the vaccines are causing more people to die than COVID-19.

The FDA's panel of doctors said Pfizer is killing more people than COVID-19.

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Wait I see articles everywhere that this panel recommended the pfizer booster. Did they recommend the vacination despite its deaths:lives saved ratio?
 
Wait I see articles everywhere that this panel recommended the pfizer booster. Did they recommend the vacination despite its deaths:lives saved ratio?

Looks like it. Note the age group the panel still recommended the booster for, and then take another look at the screencap @Bad Take Crucifier posted:

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This is giving me flashbacks to the off-label use of Risperdal in nursing homes in the early 2000s that killed a bunch of elderly dementia patients.
 
I didn't see this posted. From the 15th:
Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN
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From the article, comparing India's Uttar Pradesh(Ivermectin) with Kerala(No Ivermectin) states.
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Uttar Pradesh government says early use of Ivermectin helped to keep positivity, deaths low
 
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Where do you live that GPs/OBGYNs are so concerned?lol.

As a teen I would get my period once every 3+ months, then pass out and vomit from pain when it came. Had 3 different doctors (including female doctors) say "you'll grow out of it", "haha, sucks to be a woman, huh?", "it doesn't really affect anything now, but it may make it hard to conceive someday", or other equally retarded response

The avg endometriosis diagnosis takes, what, 10 yrs? Even when it's causing anemia or collapsed lungs.

9 times out of 10 the response to any menstrual problems = slap a birth control bandaid on it and/or wait it out/take some weak over the counter painkiller. I guess(?) thats a step up from the days when they would give women hysterectomies like it's NBD as a treatment for PCOS, or anything else really, which turned out to significantly increase their chances of cancer, early dementia, and more fun stuff. Oopsies! But still, non-essential hysterectomies are pretty widely available, because why not?

It's about par for the course for doctors not to give a shit when women describe menstrual irregularities that impede normal daily functions, let alone when pesky women's complaints threaten the legitimacy of the vAcCiNeS.

The only thing that really surprises me is the fact that post-MENOPAUSAL women are being told that their bleeding is fine and normal, when normally this would be a sign of cancer.

I do some work with an org that helps women with menstrual issues, and eventually after getting a boat load of questions about irregular bleeding, spotting, etc after getting vaccinated, being the responsible people we are, we went to ask a GP, who sent us this, which has literally nothing to do with the vaccine. Then, basically told us 1- b////es are lying, quit believing them and spreading fake news, the science says they're wrong, 2- Even if they're not lying, it's just "stress" due to lockdowns so it will go back to normal later (another typical answer- we don't care about women's health so we'll attribute anything we can't explain because we didn't bother studying it to "stress"), 3- Long covid

Covid/vaccines didn't create the problem, but hopefully it's exposing it. Probably not, though, because all the women with observable abnormalities are just lying antivaxxers.
Every single one of the women who wrote that are brainwashed, gaslighting traitors to all women, and with women like that we do not need men to oppress us. When and if the dust settles on this I hope people like that, and all and any who furthered and enabled this end up on the wall.
 
Someone I can't remember (source amnesia) said it, but it's telling that AOC's message was "tax the rich", and not "help the poor."

These people care more about punishing dissenters and their "enemies" than they do actually helping those they claim to want to help.

AOC has no problem letting her "abuela" live in squalor and instead of using her own money to fix the house, cry that the government needs to do something. Then she'll virtual signal that "I'm speaking to the LARGER issue." Ok, great. You still look like a shitty granddaughter though.
 
Sort of. But:


I wouldn't get your hopes up too high that this is the clincher.

The speaker was Steve Kirsch, founder of the Covid-19 Early Treatment Fund. 'Early treatment' as in non-vaccine early treatments for Covid-19 (including e.g. Ivermectin and friends). So even though he declared no conflicts at the start of his talk, he and his fund still benefit from the vaccines being shown to be dodgy (even when the vaccines probably are dodgy and he's making correct points, it's still a conflict of interests).

Also, he's not even a doctor. He has a BS/MS in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from MIT, which is impressive don't get me wrong, but it's not a medical credential. In fact, none of his listed staff have medically-relevant credentials. "Big whoop", sure, but it's a point that the soy army will absolutely hold against him and his team here.

Finally, the segment he was speaking in was the FDA's Open Public Hearing Session. Basically this is the 'let's open the line to concerned callers' part of the advisory meeting that they're probably contractually-obligated by stakeholders to host, but that they otherwise don't pay too much mind. Nothing said during the open session is endorsed by the FDA. And if Kirsch's presentation ends up gaining any sort of traction I wouldn't be surprised if they publicly disavowed the guy.

Not to say that Kirsch isn't bringing up good points. There's a lot to be concerned about with the vaccines. I'm just spoiling the story for you on how the media is going to run with this.
Fuck.

Yep, deboonked. Here's an article ranting against them that uses the phrase "horse paste" about 30 times and says smugly "Vaccines, of course, remain the best available precaution against severe Covid outcomes."

So yeah, I can't show this to anyone without risk of being called a conspiracy nut. They are incredibly through and insidious in their propaganda.


 
Someone I can't remember (source amnesia) said it, but it's telling that AOC's message was "tax the rich", and not "help the poor."

These people care more about punishing dissenters and their "enemies" than they do actually helping those they claim to want to help.

AOC has no problem letting her "abuela" live in squalor and instead of using her own money to fix the house, cry that the government needs to do something. Then she'll virtual signal that "I'm speaking to the LARGER issue." Ok, great. You still look like a shitty granddaughter though.
The Left and it's handmaidens are nearly all lazy. They think problems are to be solved by others, not them.

I volunteer at a couple of different charities, and to a one, all of the volunteers are right-leaning Christians and church-goers. We occasionally get some right-on leftard signing up, but they never last.
 
Fuck.

Yep, deboonked. Here's an article ranting against them that uses the phrase "horse paste" about 30 times and says smugly "Vaccines, of course, remain the best available precaution against severe Covid outcomes."

So yeah, I can't show this to anyone without risk of being called a conspiracy nut. They are incredibly through and insidious in their propaganda.


Show them now so in a couple of months when this shit falls apart and they called you a conspiracy theorist you can rightfully point out how much of a fucktard they are.

The FDA rejection is a big deal, couple that with the resignations of heads at the FDA plus the continuing side effects from these notvaxxs plus how bad the Isreal data is, I truly believe the tide is turning. The MSM doesn't know how to address this rejection but they are going to have to address it and while the MSM plebs appear to be a united front(they are) the publications where the elite on the left get their marching orders have published several anti vaxx/lockdown posts in the past couple of weeks. That will trickle down to the plebs. It's going to be a slow ass turn cuz this ship has a big ass but slowly it is turning around.

Ultimately the problem with lying, in anything, is eventually the truth does come out. It may take decades but it does.
 

Here's a longer version. The timeline is wrong, we still don't have the nasal spray. Also, she heard of the conspiracy because a head of state (picture of Hillary Clinton shown) said the great culling was about to begin. At her drug-free practice.
 
Show them now so in a couple of months when this shit falls apart and they called you a conspiracy theorist you can rightfully point out how much of a fucktard they are.

The FDA rejection is a big deal, couple that with the resignations of heads at the FDA plus the continuing side effects from these notvaxxs plus how bad the Isreal data is, I truly believe the tide is turning. The MSM doesn't know how to address this rejection but they are going to have to address it and while the MSM plebs appear to be a united front(they are) the publications where the elite on the left get their marching orders have published several anti vaxx/lockdown posts in the past couple of weeks. That will trickle down to the plebs. It's going to be a slow ass turn cuz this ship has a big ass but slowly it is turning around.

Ultimately the problem with lying, in anything, is eventually the truth does come out. It may take decades but it does.
The thing about lying though, is that you can dilute the truth enough or release it over a long enough period so that it's not nearly as hard-hitting as it can be. Or if your victims are powerless, you can get away by erecting judicial barriers like the Sacklers did with Perdue.

IMO, I honestly would see any form of backtracking involving the return to the 'Trump Vaccine' label, and maybe something about the vaccines losing potency & the boosters not being powerful enough that can be used to ease the minds of the vaxxed and return society back to Step 1 of the whole process. Then Pfizer et al. will come out with their brand name oral medication that treats Covid symptoms and is totally not like Ivermectin, and then this pandemic will be over.

I cannot ever see them ever saying that VAERS or ADE are side effects of this vaccine, as it would cause the medical establishment to lose its last bits of trust in the population. Normies are perennially forgiving if you give them a reason to hope.

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high that this is the clincher.

The speaker was Steve Kirsch, founder of the Covid-19 Early Treatment Fund. 'Early treatment' as in non-vaccine early treatments for Covid-19 (including e.g. Ivermectin and friends). So even though he declared no conflicts at the start of his talk, he and his fund still benefit from the vaccines being shown to be dodgy (even when the vaccines probably are dodgy and he's making correct points, it's still a conflict of interests).

Also, he's not even a doctor. He has a BS/MS in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from MIT, which is impressive don't get me wrong, but it's not a medical credential. In fact, none of his listed staff have medically-relevant credentials. "Big whoop", sure, but it's a point that the soy army will absolutely hold against him and his team here.

Finally, the segment he was speaking in was the FDA's Open Public Hearing Session. Basically this is the 'let's open the line to concerned callers' part of the advisory meeting that they're probably contractually-obligated by stakeholders to host, but that they otherwise don't pay too much mind. Nothing said during the open session is endorsed by the FDA. And if Kirsch's presentation ends up gaining any sort of traction I wouldn't be surprised if they publicly disavowed the guy.

Not to say that Kirsch isn't bringing up good points. There's a lot to be concerned about with the vaccines. I'm just spoiling the story for you on how the media is going to run with this.
I think were some other doctors in the open hearing who also raised some similar issues (and some others who supported boosters), but I do agree that Kirsch will be the focus in terms of any potential pro-vaxx narratives.
 
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I love how that nog's advice to "be your unapologetic self" doesn't extend to allowing people informed consent about irreversible medical devices being put into their bodies.

@Getting tard comed: As my Gramps would be wont to say, "the lies and the truth have one thing in common: Longer they carry on, more apparent they will be".
 
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