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Red Bird said:
Where do you live that GPs/OBGYNs are so concerned?lol.
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First of all I only see female OBGYNs. Men can and will discredit everything and I really don't want someone other than my husband putting their fingers in me. Second of all, I immediately drop doctors if they say anything like what you said in your post. The reason doctors fucking suck is because people put up with care like that. Don't. You have to advocate for yourself. It seems like you're helping other women advocate for themselves now ehich is great. I'm sorry your mother or other female figures in your life didn't help you better as a teen. There's no way my mom would've accepted a doctor saying "sucks to be a female" lmao I don't know anyone who would tbh but again Im not trying to blame you and I'm sorry thats been your experience.

If you do all of the above you will find a good GPs and OBGYNs. If you go to the free clinic, then yea, they will shove you out the door. I go to a female only clinic and they have always been on top of my health. Must be why they're always so busy.
 
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mdrop22 said:
First of all I only see female OBGYNs. Men can and will discredit everything and I really don't want someone other than my husband putting their fingers in me. Second of all, I immediately drop doctors if they say anything like what you said in your post. The reason doctors fucking suck is because people put up with care like that. Don't. You have to advocate for yourself. It seems like you're helping other women advocate for themselves now ehich is great. I'm sorry your mother or other female figures in your life didn't help you better as a teen. There's no way my mom would've accepted a doctor saying "sucks to be a female" lmao I don't know anyone who would tbh but again Im not trying to blame you and I'm sorry thats been your experience.

If you do all of the above you will find a good GPs and OBGYNs. If you go to the free clinic, then yea, they will shove you out the door. I go to a female only clinic and they have always been on top of my health. Must be why they're always so busy.
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Couldn't agree more. Women who put up with that shit and pass their shitty beliefs onto their daughters hamstring the rest of us.

@Red Bird: Locate, install, and read the user manual for your fucking spine, and heaven help and daughters you have.
 
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Lemmingwise said:
Wait I see articles everywhere that this panel recommended the pfizer booster. Did they recommend the vacination despite its deaths:lives saved ratio?
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The speakers discussing the negative points of the vaccines are not doctors from the panel, but people speaking during the open discussion segment of the panel, basically the part of the panel where the public can chime in.
 
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Fliddaroonie said:
Locate, install, and read the user manual for your fucking spine, and heaven help and daughters you have.
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Well geez I wasn't going to go this hard but I guess that's one way to say it. Seriously though this is why women are turning to assisted home births and avoiding ultrasounds. The trust between women and the medical industry is absolutely shattered, for good reason.

Not related but I found this study last night in the "NPs/Noctors" thread (in Community Watch, would probably interest some of you here) and it gave me nightmares:
Discovery of unexpected pain in intubated and sedated patients

No quotes since it's super short but I bet you can tell by the title how horrifying the implications are. Keep this study in mind next time you read about intubation and nurses doing it just to shut patients up.
 
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mdrop22 said:
Well geez I wasn't going to go this hard but I guess that's one way to say it. Seriously though this is why women are turning to assisted home births and avoiding ultrasounds. The trust between women and the medical industry is absolutely shattered, for good reason.

Not related but I found this study last night in the "NPs/Noctors" thread (in Community Watch, would probably interest some of you here) and it gave me nightmares:
Discovery of unexpected pain in intubated and sedated patients

No quotes since it's super short but I bet you can tell by the title how horrifying the implications are. Keep this study in mind next time you read about intubation and nurses doing it just to shut patients up.
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It is ALWAYS the fucking endo patients. ALWAYS. They get shitty medical care, put up with it, and do NOTHING to challenge it except go on Twitter and bitch and snivel about their shitty medical care. They care more about garnering asspats from "WAAAHHH MAH ENDOES! MAH POOR MEDJICAL CARE!!!" because they're sloppy, lazy, slack and don't actually want to do anything to solve anything, because their "MUH OPPRESSHUUUNNNNZZZZZZZ!!!! MUH DISARBILLAARRRRRTEEEEEEEZZZZ!!!" is part of their personality, often all of their personality, really.


They don't want change. EVER. They want it to continue because so long as it does, they get sweet asspats and oppression points.


Edited to add: Women like that do more to shit on women's rights and health and freedoms than the most rabid, incel sexist pricks would ever be able to do. Women like that are the crabs in the bucket holding us all down and I genuinely feel for any child raised by someone with suck backwards-ass, regressive, sexist, stunted and intended-to-cripple-women-and-keep-them-in-their-box mindset.
 
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How does this booster nonsense impact people who didn't get the mRNA vaccines? Is it the inexorable march of Science (TM) that people who didn't get the mRNA vaccine will have to get a mRNA booster? How is that scientific?

I fully expect my university to mandate a booster in the future, which puts me in a weird spot as a J and J recipient. If there's no J and J booster by then, are they going to demand I get a different type of vaccine? What happens when I say that's not medically advisable? Do they just let it go or treat me as a squeaky cog in this bureaucratic system? What about normal workplaces? What about nursing homes, even? This is the most retarded factor in this booster nonsense discourse, but I've yet to see it broached by anyone at all. And you'd think people so gung-ho about science would care about something unscientific like making people mix vaccines.
 
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Tathagata said:
How does this booster nonsense impact people who didn't get the mRNA vaccines? Is it the inexorable march of Science (TM) that people who didn't get the mRNA vaccine will have to get a mRNA booster? How is that scientific?

I fully expect my university to mandate a booster in the future, which puts me in a weird spot as a J and J recipient. If there's no J and J booster by then, are they going to demand I get a different type of vaccine? What happens when I say that's not medically advisable? Do they just let it go or treat me as a squeaky cog in this bureaucratic system? What about normal workplaces? What about nursing homes, even? This is the most retarded factor in this booster nonsense discourse, but I've yet to see it broached by anyone at all. And you'd think people so gung-ho about science would care about something unscientific like making people mix vaccines.
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I genuinely have no idea, but I wouldn't touch that shit with a fifty foot stick. Literally no long term research has been done on mixing vaccines, and frankly, at this point, anyone advocating for it, and the scientists advocating it are like the spastic kids running amok in a kitchen.
 
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Fliddaroonie said:
no long term research has been done on mixing vaccines
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Counterpoint: When has that ever stopped the modern Mengeles, like Herr Fauci, from pushing their authoritarian medical policies?

The actual science of mixing vaccines only matters if you're more concerned with the effects than with pushing vaccine propaganda. Given everything we've seen thus far, I would hesitate to say any liberal-infected institution cares more about health than pushing vaccines.
 
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Discourteous Discourse said:
This is a problem that should be studied, the study specifically being how many retards think they're Superman right after getting a shot.
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I wonder how much of this is the fact that people were originally led to believe that vaccinations were the silverbullet in that being vaccinated meant a return to "normal life" and how many people simply don't care about taking proper care of themselves now that they're vaccinated. I imagine that there's some combination of both at play here.

FriedPickles said:
I don't understand it at all. Ivermectin wont hurt and may help so why not try it? These pharmacists had no problem filling huge opioid scripts for years but now they wont fill ivermectin...
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I recently stumped a doomer into silence over Ivermectin. After the latest media push to discourage use of the drug, I reponded with the fact India seems to be using it rather effectively. They had no response to that or my closing point that if it is working there, it should be looked into to see with what doses and circumstances it works optimally. It's a shame Ivermectin is being treated worse than alcohol in the Prohibition era.

Mealy Mouth Spittle said:
Wouldn't it be better -- if you know people are going to take it anyway -- to at least make sure they have the human form of it and it can be dosed properly?
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Agreed. Just as pets can sometimes take human medications, albeit in lower doses proportionate to their size, humans should be able to take the appropriate form and dose for them. The numbers coming out of India suggest someone managed to figure this out.

Hippopatumus said:
I truly did not expect to hear that. It shows a lack of process that is truly breathtaking.
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Salubrious said:
Someone at the time said it: I think Biden just threw it out there with no notice to see what the reaction would be. Or maybe hope companies would enforce it themselves "ahead to time" just in case.

OSHA may legit never do anything about it.
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From experience, both @Hippopatumus and @Salubrious are right regarding governmental bureaucracy. Ideally, the President would give OSHA a heads up about an executive order affecting so many workplaces so that they could at least begin the process of drafting some sort of policy or regulations. This feels like the executive order was made in an impulsive fashion with no advance notice which leaves everyone confused about what is and isn't acceptable because there's either conflicting directives or none at all.

We've also seen this with conflicting state, county, and local directives. When the average person or business owner asks what they should do to avoid the threatened fines/jail time for noncompliance, those in charge can't even give a straight answer because they haven't even thought that far into the policy making and enforcement process.

Government red tape at its finest.
 
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George Lucas said:
Wait if she’s a molecular biologist, why is she getting a Ph.D. in science education and not, you know, molecular biology?
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Good point. I always thought part of going through years of PhD school is to build your pedagogy skills so you can effectively communicate the hard science behind your research into digestible bits for normal people to understand. The idea of there being a separate field and PhD degree just to study how to teach science is a bit redundant to me.
 
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Car Won't Crank said:
Good point. I always thought part of going through years of PhD school is to build your pedagogy skills so you can effectively communicate the hard science behind your research into digestible bits for normal people to understand. The idea of there being a separate field and PhD degree just to study how to teach science is a bit redundant to me.
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It probably has more to do with political orthodoxy than being a better educator. Probably easier too.
 
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Not a fake name said:
Some Oregon state senators are apparently trying to get a grand jury to look into criminal actions by the FDA and CDC over how they have handled the pandemic: Article ( Archive )
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Its really not the FDA. FDA has approved anything except an EUA it was pressured into that says only the vulnerable should get the shots.


The CDC and Fauci are the criminals here. Fauci's net worth increased by 9 million in 2020. How is that even possible? Nigga the stock market went down.
 
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