@The American Hedgehog socked on CWCki, involved with Watchmen, 'Knights of CWC', and others - This breaks my heart; feat. Fiona, Bella, and yet more Discord leaks...who knew what when?

[Mariposa Electrique]

You should look at the way @Marvin handled this, "I don't care" is a pretty good response, although not the same as "I don't know anything". The fact that a bunch of people showed up to run defence is more interesting than Marvin himself really.

@The American Hedgehog apparently has proof of his innocence that he has refused to release for over two weeks. If he releases it one of these things will happen:

A) He is shown to be entirely uninvolved
B) He is shown to be involved/had knowledge he should have made public

The point is not that he is involved with Bella, rather he seems to have been either working with Sean, been pulled in by Sean against his own wishes or had BTS info on a lot of the bullshit that went on during late july/early august. I hope he decides to post the rips and is shown to be innocent. These will also be good for information on Sean and Bella's interactions with Chris and I have no idea who Hedgehog thinks he is protecting, everyone in this server is likely well known by this point.
Just because they're both ebin oldfags doesn't mean they should be immune from being asked questions, no one is trying to kill them.
I've already made a post about his obsession with Joshua Wise Here and I don't think it's too far fetched to say that he might have traded favours for info.

@Deadpool You're probably right about infighting and I'll be happy to get snarked on when I'm proven to be retarded.

I still think their is a lot of shit going on beyond this. I mean, we know they're hoarding coveted Chris videos. It's not that far of a stretch to assume they're hiding more stuff.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

hoarding coveted Chris videos

I think you need some time away from the farms fren.

 

[Witthel]

I think you need some time away from the farms fren.

In her defense, there is an unreleased phone call of Chris that was made around Bob's death.

Bob Chandler - CWCki

sonichu.com

It is said that some trolls attempted to contact Chris over the phone shortly after Bob's death for unclear reasons; Chris was noted to be audibly upset as he cried throughout the conversation. While the audio was recorded and archived on what is referred to as the "Black Tape" by some Christorians, the contents of the call were never released publicly due to Chris's miserable emotional state, and the trolls who participated in the call realized after the fact that it was simply too soon to try to reach out to Chris in this fashion. The Black Tape either still exists in the hands of the trolls who participated in it, or it has been lost to time.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think you need some time away from the farms fren.

So, they're not when they've admitted to this. They then they can't post it out of respect to Chris or Barb.

In her defense, there is an unreleased phone call of Chris that was made around Bob's death.

Bob Chandler - CWCki

sonichu.com

And Barb being punched on video

 

[StrawberryDouche]

What the howler monkeys seem to be demanding is that TAH prove he didn't personally push Chris's dick into his mother, otherwise, he pushed Chris's dick into his mother while Marvin provided moral support.

So far he is guilty of the high crime of having two accounts on an unrelated site and for some reason, this demanded a mod write a 3287 word OP publicly calling out another mod. @Spooky Bones, I don't understand why you didn't make this thread in a part of the site that isn't accessible to the general public. Those involved in last summer's modpocalypse at least had the grace to do that.

This is profoundly gay.

 

[Deadpool]

In her defense, there is an unreleased phone call of Chris that was made around Bob's death.

Bob Chandler - CWCki

sonichu.com

I don't understand why people want to hear this. I've lost a parent it sucks, and is absolutely devastating. I don't want to hear another human being go through that no matter how shitty they are.

Edit: I do wanna see the Chris punching Barb vid. That sounds hilarious.

 

[A big guy (for you)]

What the howler monkeys seem to be demanding is that TAH prove he didn't personally push Chris's dick into his mother, otherwise, he pushed Chris's dick into his mother while Marvin provided moral support.

So far he is guilty of the high crime of having two accounts on an unrelated site and for some reason, this demanded a mod write a 3287 word OP publicly calling out another mod. @Spooky Bones, I don't understand why you didn't make this thread in a part of the site that isn't accessible to the general public. Those involved in last summer's modpocalypse at least had the grace to do that.

This is profoundly gay.

Hello strawberry, the accusation is not that he had something to do with Chris raping Barb, but that he may have known something about Bella/Sean's coverup and didn't make any of it public, as well as doing some very strange things since.
Given that the accusation is BTS collusion the fact that this is being done publicly is for the best, I know you ebin oldfags seem to think you're immune from scrutiny but there are questions that people want answers to and the age of your account or your status on this site isn't a shield.
You're probably dripping wet over a chance to A-Log spooky but please try to be objective, Hedgehog has claimed he has proof that he won't release.

I don't understand why people want to hear this. I've lost a parent it sucks, and is absolutely devastating. I don't want to hear another human being go through that no matter how shitty they are.

I think it's just that it exists and isn't public, bit morbid for me too.

 

[StrawberryDouche]

Hello strawberry, the accusation is not that he had something to do with Chris raping Barb, but that he may have known something about Bella/Sean's coverup and didn't make any of it public, as well as doing some very strange things since.
Given that the accusation is BTS collusion the fact that this is being done publicly is for the best, I know you ebin oldfags seem to think you're immune from scrutiny but there are questions that people want answers to and the age of your account or your status on this site isn't a shield.
You're probably dripping wet over a chance to A-Log spooky but please try to be objective, Hedgehog has claimed he has proof that he won't release.



I think it's just that it exists and isn't public, bit morbid for me too.

Calm down, angry lady.

 

[Spooky Bones]

This. I can't speak for TAH, but I know @Marvin pretty well. He got an invite to a bunch of CWC Discords by virtue of being the MitPS, and he kinda accepted them all like "yeah, w/e." Aside from popping in once or twice when people were bugging him, he checked out of Chris shit a while ago.

There's a reason I put @The American Hedgehog but not @Marvin in the title. I think the former is actively trying to hide some shit and the latter wound up having some questionable associations he probably didn't know about until it was pretty late in the game. However, it's a game of "who knew what when" and a callback to the earlier controversy involving the Idea Guys.

The overall thing I'd wanted to edit into a page was that there were four people who had been behind a role (before my edit the page had some dated info about there only being two people).

Since it was a leak and not public info, I redacted some usernames in a couple screencaps used as a citation for it - either the usernames weren't relevant to the matter or weren't mentioned in the wiki at that time in connection to the role.

Why redact some usernames or others?

Let's look here:

After I posted this, you wrote to me:

Spoiler

Apart from you sounding like a condescending dick, I had to kind of restrain myself from explaining that there was a method to my madness here, part of which is my being able to make the point I'm about to make now. Not only do your redactions cover only the name and thus it's fairly easy to figure out who is speaking by process of elimination if you know the candidates simply by lining up the text, but the different styles of redaction show two different redactors redacting different names.

Why would I want to do this? Because you felt the need to redact everyone except MKR. I imagine you will say that MKR is well-known enough to have her own article on the CWCki and thus doesn't need to be redacted. Fair enough perhaps, I'm not the MKR Guard, I don't know or give a shit about MKR and have no problem having people know that she said those things, but the fact that you're willing to go to bat for the redaction of Sean's friends and leave his enemies unredacted is suspicious. Why MKR and Naught for the bus and not anyone else?

In fact your whole effort reeks of Sean damage control from the beginning, to the extent that (as I mentioned) I tinfoiled that your first PM to me could literally have been from Sean himself. In fact that's what kicked off my suspicions to begin with. Why you would go to bat for this highly autistic and seriously depraved individual is beyond me, but it's also beyond me how he slithered his way into such a position of "power" to begin with, although that "power" was largely vested in his hours upon hours of autistically manipulating Chris. But Sean apparently has a web of other more interesting associations.

Why carry water for the guy though? The fact that you did (and were in a position to provide allegedly, but not really, exonerating material) is why I began wondering about you in the first place tbh.

I don’t see much post-arrest activity from Marvin to get bent out of shape over anything yet. I had kinda hoped he’d just taken his hands off the wheel like you say after it became obvious that any plans to manage Chris can be easily cucked by a pair of tits and a prone pussy. Regardless of age and relation.

The fuckery, from what I can gather, is in anybody still trying to hide shit/control the narrative post-august 2nd, when it had became pretty clear the last hand has been dealt and it’s time to fold or show your cards.

Yeah, and having peaced out of the Discord server earlier doesn't exonerate. TAH doesn't give a date but I think he's implying he left 7/31-8/1 at the latest, and I'm not sure if I believe him. Either way, he knew stuff. He had a lot of information about Sean to send me after all.

From the facts, I see nothing that says that Marvin and H-Hog were involved with bella shit.

You also, if you read the OP, don't see me accusing of them being "involved with Bella shit" other than by being in the same Discord. The main issue is (a) "H-Hog", carrying water for Sean and (b) both of them knowing various things and keeping them under wraps including when they were active serious issues such as the attempts to frame Fiona. @Marvin, again, I didn't mention nearly as prominently for a reason.

@Spooky Bones I've messaged you privately in the past, and I'll reiterate what I said: your internet detective work uncovering the Chess Club and their gayops was top of the line. Much respect.

But I'm no simp, and watching the investigation veer into the weeds, digging into everyone within six degrees of separation, is eye-rolling.

And I appreciate both your earlier compliments and your current criticism. The "investigation" isn't really even a thing, just people leaking a shitload of stuff and talking about one another. And it's not about "digging into everyone within six degrees of separation", either. Sean warranted a thread for obvious reasons. TAH for inscrutable reasons chose to run damage control for Sean. He declined to continue a conversation with me about it and chose instead to post his point of view on his Wiki (but not here, notably.) As response to this (and only as response to this) I posted this thread.

As for the accusation (by a couple people) that I'm flailing out wildly or clout-seeking, this was essentially brought gift-wrapped to me. I decided to rejoin the CWCki way before this stuff started coming out because I wanted to add some information about some other random weens (and this would be Rosa Rey Ramsey, who even Null would class as a ween) pre-Merge and then ILJ and Sean stuff post-merge. In the course of looking into Sean stuff, I found the sockpuppet account and from there, TAH sent me a few damage control PMs on here; had either of those things happened, we'd never have gotten here.

Since when do ethics come into play on imageboards or wikis dedicated to lolcows? Everyone here spends their time "cyberbullying" (posting mean words) about mentally ill and behaviorally deviant people. Your obligation as a member of the community, however senior, is exactly zero.

If this is the defense that we're going with, fine, it's perfectly valid and I don't really have an answer for it. Yet it's not the argument that either of the individuals we're talking about chose to make.

The argument was more "I joined some random Discord and didn't pay it any mind."

But this is more than "some random Discord," it's the Discord of the individual currently in "control" of Chris (which is a term that I really don't like but don't know what else to use), or rather first Naught's Watchmen and then Sean's schismatic Knights. That's the kind of thing that you would naturally, unavoidably even, open up if major Chris news breaks. I don't believe for a second that either of them, TAH especially, didn't do that.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Hah, the black tape.

I wonder if it getting released someday is more likely than Mother 3 getting a localized release.

It’s easy to imagine what went down in that tape, anyway. Probably a bunch of bawwing, runny noses, and the shocking realization that the Grim Reaper lied to Chris about when Bob will die.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

The Chris crying video always makes me think of the audio of Timothy Treadwell (and his girlfriend) being eaten alive by Grizzlies. Herzog was 100% when he told Momma Treadwell to destroy it and never listen to it. Same goes for the Barb punching video, let the family have at least something semi private.

 

[Hotchick]

Die like a hero or live enought to become a villian

 

[Black Simp Bellamy]

The Chris crying video always makes me think of the audio of Timothy Treadwell (and his girlfriend) being eaten alive by Grizzlies.

Christ, I forgot about that one...

 

[Deadpool]

A lot of these new threads seem to be (at least to me) stretching to keep this sub relevant. Bella and her fungi troops have all gone silent. So now we have to go after somebody because they knew somebody who we don't like, and they didn't give us info that is tangentially related. Maybe @The American Hedgehog didn't divulge all this information because he knew that it would (and did) lead to an autistic witch hunt. Or maybe, just maybe not everyone is obligated to leak every discord they've been in because a crowd of autists have their pitchforks and torches ready. I've read the OP and all the relevant posts with an open mind, and the only thing I feel is why should I even give a shit about this?

 

[Witthel]

why should I even give a shit about this?

Because with Chris himself in the slammer the site's userbase is desperate for any type of content related to their pet tard.

 

[Syntaxion]

and the only thing I feel is why should I even give a shit about this?

to be fair, why even come here if you don't care?

I don't care about Ethan Ralph, so you won't see me go to their subforum and ask "why should I care about this?"

If TAH, Marvin or whoever is connected to Sean or Bella, then it fits to be posted here

 

[Deadpool]

to be fair, why even come here if you don't care?

I don't care about Ethan Ralph, so you won't see me go to their subforum and ask "why should I care about this?"

If TAH, Marvin or whoever is connected to Sean or Bella, then it fits to be posted here

There are some good threads on here. I like the GiBi and Espeon threads, and any new info on Bella is interesting.

 

[Spooky Bones]

Nobody's obligated to care about some convoluted and fairly esoteric metadrama, no. And while I think that what TAH did was fucked up, this thread also serves a more objective purpose in documentation. My interest in this forum is documenting ILJ-related people and incidents and that includes Sean and the broader circumstances surrounding how ILJ and Sean came into contact, and by that standard alone this discussion is relevant. But I do not want to get sidetracked on this too much or indeed in discussions where everyone will just wind up getting angry at each other (meta-metadrama?) so I'm not going to do that. I don't want to see drama about ILJ vs other forums, newfag vs oldfag (and oldfag vs oldfag, seems roughly 50/50) arguments popping off, it won't be helpful to anyone I don't think.

 

[TheMockTurtle]

What I don't understand is:
1. Why people are coming into this thread to run damage control on behalf of people who have abandoned the thread themselves
2. Why people are coming into this thread to prove how little they care
3. Why it's so difficult to produce logs which would definitively prove two things
a. The true depths of Sean Walker's involvement with the barbussy chapter
b. the innocence/guilt of other people involved or not involved with this whole shit tornado
4. Why anyone can dress up like a pickle nigger and still accumulate simps.


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It’s not “running in to do damage control” to point out how gay and malicious an OP is. If this were just about TAH socking it would be whatever, but Spooky doesn’t seem to understand how harmful these other wild accusations are, not only to the people that involved but the community as a whole. We halal when there is something halal worthy but trying to throw Marvin under the bus just because he’s more popular on discord than you are is fucked. Writing a stupidly long and confusing OP where you conflate fact with conspiracy is fucked. You and spooky and all the other loud, cringy tryhard newfags should get fucked. Etc.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

@Spooky Bones, I don't understand why you didn't make this thread in a part of the site that isn't accessible to the general public. Those involved in last summer's modpocalypse at least had the grace to do that.

Now that you mention it, the shit last year with Kamov and Thotto was also Discord shenanigans.

It's almost like Discord is a cancer, or something.

ETA:

What would you think in that situation? You'd drag them into interrogation rooms and you know you would.

Whatever point you might have had was automatically nullified with that cringey photoshop job. Knock that gay shit off, bro.