Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Super-Chevy454]

Klaus Schwab and Fraudci won't be happy about how Sweden deal with the vaccines.

‘Vaccines’ In Sweden Getting Discarded as Covid Deaths Hit Nil

When history books detail the Great Covid Plandemic, they will look fondly on Sweden for multiple reason. They went against

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When history books detail the Great Covid Plandemic, they will look fondly on Sweden for multiple reason. They went against the grain and avoided lockdowns while every other Western nation ridiculed them and accused them of killing off their population. They embraced herd immunity as the pathway to normalcy. They achieved extremely low daily death counts, often zero, ahead of all of the nations who thought lockdowns were the way to go.

If there’s one flaw to their strategy, it’s that they’ve joined most other nations in embracing vaccinations. They’re not at the top of the list, ranking as the 38th most vaccinated in the world at 62.3% fully-vaxxed and another 20% half-vaxxed. But it seems they aren’t going much higher. Health officials are closing down vaccination facilities and tossing the injections in the garbage because the remaining people who are not jabbed appear to want to stay that way.

 

[Drain Todger]

The vaccine is pure bullshit. Not only is it pure bullshit, it could do incredible harm.

Let's Stop Pretending About the Covid-19 Vaccines

As a family physician, I spend my days dispensing advice. I mean, there’s the occasional cast, skin biopsy, or shot, but most of my patients are seeing me for medical counsel. Never have I been

www.realclearscience.com

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses

By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.

www.healthline.com

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Public Health England's Covid-19 surveillance report

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf

It's been discussed already but I want to discuss antibodies



Page 20

We all got that? 98% of the UK's adult population have Covid antibodies, either through vaccination, recovery from Covid infection or a combination of the two.
Also recall that natural immunity has been proven to give durable sterilising immunity against the virus, which means we can eliminate them on a statistical basis as a target population for the virus

Now if my math is correct that means 2% of adults in the UK have no immunity and so can be put in the unvaccinated/non-recovered basket.

There are 52,000,000 people over the age of 18 in the UK. That means that just over 1,000,,000 people in total have no immunity against Covid.

So bear this in mind and lets look at the case numbers.


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113,846 unvaccinated people over the age of 18 have contracted Covid.
Do you see the problem? Over a 4 week period over 11% of people who have no immunity to Covid have caught the bug.


Just like Israel there are simply not enough non-immune people in the population to validate these numbers.
According to the report the recovery rate for unvaccinated adults is 99.5%, which means around 30,000 unvaxxed per week are moving from the non immune to the immune basket.
In other words the unvaxxed are a reducing target for the virus.

Takeaways:

- The UK government is outright lying about the vaccination status of the infected. A population positivity rate of over 10% is ludicrously high and non believable.
- If this is a lie the hospitalisation and mortality numbers are also lies.
- This problem will become more apparent with time. Remember the number of non immune can only fall with time and so the positivity rate must increase if they are to continue to claim that the vaccines are effective.

You are assuming you cant get covid twice. Natural immunity from last year is about as effective as last years vaccine.

I got sick twice. I know people around me on their 3rd infection

 

[General Disarray]

You are assuming you cant get covid twice. Natural immunity from last year is about as effective as last years vaccine.

I got sick twice. I know people around me on their 3rd infection

Did you test? Not like they're accurate.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Did you test? Not like they're accurate.

Yes the first time...the second time my son brought it home and was tested

They are more accurate now. That wasnt the case last year, they would test 4 times on a positive to make sure

 

[Keystone]

Klaus Schwab and Fraudci won't be happy about how Sweden deal with the vaccines.

‘Vaccines’ In Sweden Getting Discarded as Covid Deaths Hit Nil

When history books detail the Great Covid Plandemic, they will look fondly on Sweden for multiple reason. They went against

freedomfirstnetwork.com

Never thought I'd see the day when you could say "Sweden Yes!" with naught a hint of irony.

 

[Getting tard comed]

You are assuming you cant get covid twice. Natural immunity from last year is about as effective as last years vaccine.

I got sick twice. I know people around me on their 3rd infection

Pretty sure that isn't true and natural immunity is 13-27x better than the vaxx at any point in time and is practically permanent considering it "re-ups" everytime you are exposed to it and coronachan is an airborne virus that deers have been found with.

I point this out because unless you got blood work done and an actual anti-body test done, getting a positive nose-swab(rapid test or PCR test) does not nor will ever mean you necessarily got covid. The tests are not mor were ever designed to test for it specifically and the maker of the test told everyone that when they started using them. Also people should have been aware those tests were fuckery when the goverment told us they were recalibrating them to change the tests results and, for autisms sake, when Elon took 4 tests the same day and got 2 negative and 2 positive tests.

A lot of people think they got the coof without actually having had the coof due to those PCR tests and I'm not sure there is any hard data showing that as possible and the data coming out of places bothering to keep track of stuff like that appear to suggest the opposite.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Pretty sure that isn't true and natural immunity is 13-27x better than the vaxx at any point in time and is practically permanent considering it "re-ups" everytime you are exposed to it and coronachan is an airborne virus that deers have been found with.

I point this out because unless you got blood work done and an actual anti-body test done, getting a positive nose-swab(rapid test or PCR test) does not nor will ever mean you necessarily got covid. The tests are not mor were ever designed to test for it specifically and the maker of the test told everyone that when they started using them. Also people should have been aware those tests were fuckery when the goverment told us they were recalibrating them to change the tests results and, for autisms sake, when Elon took 4 tests the same day and got 2 negative and 2 positive tests.

A lot of people think they got the coof without actually having had the coof due to those PCR tests and I'm not sure there is any hard data showing that as possible and the data coming out of places bothering to keep track of stuff like that appear to suggest the opposite.

Ok man.

Im telling you coof aint a one in done thing.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Ok man.

Im telling you coof aint a one in done thing.

Ok. . . and I'm telling you the data("science") coming out from govts actually tracking it is saying it is a one and done thing.

Glad we worked this out. Have a nice day!

 

[Hippopatumus]

Ok man.

Im telling you coof aint a one in done thing.

I'm sorry your bloodline is weak. Your children will not survive the winter.

 

[UVB-76]

Ok. . . and I'm telling you the data("science") coming out from govts actually tracking it is saying it is a one and done thing.

Glad we worked this out. Have a nice day!

If it was a one and done, there wouldn't be 13-27x better immunity - it would be infinitely better immunity due to zero cases. Since there are cases, we can quantify how better it is.
There's just going to be new variants every year and some of us will be more sensitive to them than others. Same as the flu and cold.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I guess Don Lemon will react like a "Donlemonpuff" now then he got some replies from Megyn Kelly.

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In response to his bogus lecture to unvaccinated Americans, Megyn Kelly unleashed on CNN host Don Lemon for shunning Americans who are hesitant to get vaccinated.

The comments from Kelly came on Friday during “The Megyn Kelly Show” on Sirius XM with “The Intercept” founder Glenn Greenwald. The pair talked about how Lemon “took aim” against the unvaccinated where he called them “stupid” and told society to shun them.

“So, it’s time to start shaming people Glenn, because our moral arbiters, Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo, know better,” the Kelly said.


“Don Lemon thought that that Malaysia airplane was sucked up by a blackhole,” Kelly said. “Don Lemon thought a woman being allegedly raped by Bill Cosby could’ve stopped it by biting his penis while she was being forced to perform oral sex.”

“Don Lemon’s an idiot,” she continued. “And Don Lemon is in no position to be lecturing anyone when it comes to morals nor is Chris Cuomo.”


Kelly went on to point out that “Cuomo,” the brother of former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, “decided to dismiss all of the accusers against his brother.”

“He [Chris] didn’t give a “shit about anything his brother had” done and is in no position to lecture us,” Megyn said.

As some losers in informercials said "but wait, there's more". As it wasn't enough Sarah Palin announced then she's unvaccinated because she believe in science.

Sarah Palin Announces That She Is Unvaccinated Because She Believes In “Science,” Dr. Drew Backs Up Her Claims

Sarah Palin has said that she has not received the COVID-19 vaccination shot because she “believes in science” “Gutfeld!” with former Alaska governor Sarah Palin aired on Fox News on Thursday, and she revealed why she hasn’t had the vaccine. “I believe in the science and I have not taken the...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Sarah Palin has said that she has not received the COVID-19 vaccination shot because she “believes in science”

“Gutfeld!” with former Alaska governor Sarah Palin aired on Fox News on Thursday, and she revealed why she hasn’t had the vaccine.

“I believe in the science and I have not taken the shot,” Palin said emphatically.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1438706384347009027

 

[fhqwhgads]

I think the answer is much simpler, and kinda known since the beginning: The PCR test is extremely sensitive and will detect lowest amounts of viral particles, dead or alive. No amount of vaccination or other immunity can prevent a positive PCR test if they came in contact with just a few particles somewhere. That has been an issue since the beginning. Technically, these tests are not false-positives, but the interpretation of the test result is a false positive. Or at least worthless.

And if the unvaccinated are being tested more (eg testing only the unvaccinated when they come into hospital) or if PCR cycles are ran at a higher number for the unvaccinated only, thus resulting in a greater chance of a (false) positive, then inevitably there will be more 'cases' of corona in the unvaccinated.

But this was never supposed to be about cases. It was supposed to be about protecting our healthcare system from being overwhelmed, and considering there are fewer beds being occupied now than before the pandemic, mission accomplished, pandemic over, let's go back to normal life, right?

When will people see it was never about that either?

I've sent multiple people the corona cases over time graphs for Uttar Pradesh vs. Israel, demonstrating 0 cases for the former (at 5.8% vaccinated) and a fuckton for Israel (1, 990 new cases today @ 61.7% fully vaccinated), but this can't possibly be because the vaccines don't work and alternative treatments such as ivermectin do.

No, it must be because Uttar Pradesh is doing a cracking job of contact tracing, working closely with the WHO, a link I was amazingly sent by multiple different people as the counterargument. Clearly every other country must have done a terrible fucking job at contact tracing and desperately needs to step up their game, if shithole Uttar Pradesh managed to get it sorted.

I get it, correlation doesn't equal causation and whatever, but holy fuck, how can you be this blind? If it's not a smoking gun for how fucking useless vaccines are, at the very least, it should be something to follow up on. But not a single person I know seems to think so, they all just follow the narrative, even when the narrative completely changes from one day to the next. No one can think critically anymore, even people I consider to be highly intelligent. What the fuck has happened?

I'm interested to see how strongly social media use plays into this... I've not used social media for bloody years, and when I was on it, I barely used it -- whereas the most Covidian individuals I know are on it all the time. Anecdotal, sure, but I do wonder.

 

[TiddyApples]

America seems to be screwing up the world the most now - at least aside from the commies of China. Woke seems to be coming from America, the "New Normal" and "social distancing" seem to be exceptional American inventions, and Americans seem to be going the craziest with "face masks" and pushing the jab. The globalist tyrants who run the show seem to be operating mainly out of America. The 2008 recession started in America. Not to mention the endless "War on Terror" since 9/11, and the endless "interventions" abroad.

So if American elites invented or financed the creation of the coof, it shouldn't be a surprise.

Yeah American values have become toxic, but other countries still eat that shit up. Your gross "Ex Pats" don't help either. I knew American people who spent the early days of corona harrassing commuters with no masks, recording it and posting it online to the horror of other Europeans.

 

[Getting tard comed]

And if the unvaccinated are being tested more (eg testing only the unvaccinated when they come into hospital) or if their PCR cycles are ran at a higher number for the unvaccinated only, thus resulting in a greater chance of a (false) positive, then inevitably there will be more 'cases' of corona in the unvaccinated.

But this was never supposed to be about cases. It was supposed to be about protecting our healthcare system from being overwhelmed, and considering there are fewer beds being occupied now than before the pandemic, mission accomplished, pandemic over, let's go back to normal life, right?

When will people see it was never about that either?

I've sent multiple people the corona cases over time graphs for Uttar Pradesh vs. Israel, demonstrating 0 cases for the former (at 5.8% vaccinated) and a fuckton for Israel (1, 990 new cases today @ 61.7% fully vaccinated), but this can't possibly be because the vaccines don't work and alternative treatments such as ivermectin do.

No, it must be because Uttar Pradesh is doing a cracking job of contract tracing, working closely with the WHO, a link I was amazingly sent by multiple different people as the counterargument. Clearly every other country must have done a terrible fucking job at contact tracing and desperately needs to step up their game, if shithole Uttar Pradesh managed to get it sorted.

I get it, correlation doesn't equal causation and whatever, but holy fuck, how can you be this blind? If it's not a smoking gun for how fucking useless vaccines are, at the very least, it should be something to follow up on. But not a single person I know seems to think so, they all just follow the narrative, even when the narrative completely changes from one day to the next. No one can think critically anymore, even people I consider to be highly intelligent. What the fuck has happened?

I'm interested to see how strongly social media use plays into this... I've not used social media for bloody years, and when I was on it, I barely used it -- whereas the most Covidian individuals I know are on it all the time. Anecdotal, sure, but I do wonder.

The biggest thing I've gotten out of the past 2 years has been Most People Are Idiots. It doesn't matter how intelligent they are, they aren't using it so they are functionally idiots.

If someone thinks a province in India(for purposes of the argument it might as well be a country with 230 mil people) with an avg income of less than 1k a year is doing a better job of contact tracing than ALL of the countries who have way more money than them and fund the WHO they are retarded functionally. That is NOT a reasonable conclusion to make in any world, PARTICULARLY when you have a much more likely and more plausible conclusion in a drug that wasn't used at first in the region and then once used you saw an immediate drop in cases.

Part of it is confirmation bias, part of it is appeal to authority, and I think there's a not insignificant part of it that is sunk cost fallacy and not wanting to acknowledge they've been hoodwinked and duped into taking something not necessary that will probably cause harm.

MPAI is real, the past two years proved it. Act accordingly.

 

[borsabil]

You are assuming you cant get covid twice. Natural immunity from last year is about as effective as last years vaccine.

I got sick twice. I know people around me on their 3rd infection

Unless you've had a follow up antigen test you can't be sure.

Antigen testing is cheap but they're not offering them to those who throw up a positive PCR. Why?

Natural immunity is proven to be long lasting and sterilising. There is no debate.

Can you catch Covid again? Sure, but it's extremely rare. The naturally immune have good B-cell recall, and even with the few confirmed examples where people have caught it twice there second dose is always extremely mild.

If your second run at Covid was symptomatic likely you had a false positive PCR. This is extremely common and it sucks as there are a lot of people walking around now who think they've had Covid, and so are immune, but either had the flu a cold or in the asymptomatic cases nothing at all.

The UK data is interesting as they're one of the very few health providers who have done population wide antigen testing combined with genomic sequencing for variants.

 

[Meriasek]

Unless you've had a follow up antigen test you can't be sure.

Antigen testing is cheap but they're not offering them to those who throw up a positive PCR. Why?

Natural immunity is proven to be long lasting and sterilising. There is no debate.

Can you catch Covid again? Sure, but it's extremely rare. The naturally immune have good B-cell recall, and even with the few confirmed examples where people have caught it twice there second dose is always extremely mild.

If your second run at Covid was symptomatic likely you had a false positive PCR. This is extremely common and it sucks as there are a lot of people walking around now who think they've had Covid, and so are immune, but either had the flu a cold or in the asymptomatic cases nothing at all.

The UK data is interesting as they're one of the very few health providers who have done population wide antigen testing combined with genomic sequencing for variants.

With the vaccine working by just preventing serious illness, it would then be best to catch the Coof after getting vaccinated to get the benefits of long-lasting natural immunity while reducing the risk of serious symptoms.
But apparently it's a bit of a gamble to catch the Coof after vaccination, so that's kinda hilarious.

 

[borsabil]

With the vaccine working by just preventing serious illness, it would then be best to catch the Coof after getting vaccinated to get the benefits of long-lasting natural immunity while reducing the risk of serious symptoms.
But apparently it's a bit of a gamble to catch the Coof after vaccination, so that's kinda hilarious.

In theory yes and if you're fat or a boomer that might be worth considering.

The downside is if you're vaccinated and a variant comes along that completely ignores the spike antibodies not only will you get no protection from serious illness you might end up totally fucked if the vaccine causes some kind of enhanced infection. The data coming from the UK and Israel increasingly suggests that this is happening, that once the you become seronegative, 3-8 months after your second dose, you end up getting hit extra hard by the virus if you catch it. The only way to know if your antibody titre is dropping below the seroconversion level is monthly detailed blood work, which is never going to happen. Alternatively you can get the 6 month booster and pray to God that a) you don't catch a new variant in between your jabs and b) you're one of those individuals who lose all antibody protection in 3, 4 or 5 months.

Saying all that leaky vaccines should never, ever be used during a pandemic , especially where most of the population have no natural immunity against a novel virus. This is insanely dangerous. Having asymptomatic or mild disease carriers who have 'some immunity' is a perfect breeding ground for an "oh shit" strain to emerge that will fuck everyone. We should not be prepared to put the lives of children at risk to save fat fucks who couldn't resist a third visit to the all you can eat buffet.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

It's not directly related to corona-chan but looks like Ontario will go a step further beyond the vaccine passport with the digital ID program.

Ontario prepares to launch digital ID program and here's how it works

Ontario is preparing to launch a digital identification program in the coming months, meaning people will no longer need to carry a physical driver’s licence or health card.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

TORONTO -- Ontario is preparing to launch a digital identification program in the coming months, meaning people will no longer need to carry a physical driver’s licence or health card.

According to the government, Ontario's digital identification program is scheduled to launch in late 2021.

On Wednesday, the province unveiled more information about the program, saying it will be a "convenient and easy identification solution" for Ontarians.

HOW DOES IT WORK?​

Ontarians will be able to have an electronic version of their trusted government ID – like driver's licences and health cards – which the government says is more safe and secure.

Your ID will be stored in a digital wallet app, which will be available for download onto smartphones and other devices like tablets and laptops.

I think some hackers already rub their hands in the style of the Happy Merchant.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

1. Is it true that the ventilators are a death machine?

No. Ventilators are actually quite effective at dealing with respiratory paralysis. Prior to effective antivenom, and even in conjunction with effective antivenom vents are extremely helpful in keeping people alive through critical phases from bites of certain cobra & Australian elapid snake bites that cause respiratory paralysis (via neurotoxin).
I would assume their use to extends to other respiratory impairment as well.

The issue is, based on the data coming out how most people going on vents for COVID end up dead anyways, it is safe to reason that (generally speaking) ventilators don't work for COVID.
COVID has more to do with inflammation of the lungs, tissue damage, fluid flooding and reduced ability to uptake oxygen than it does "physically unable to operate".

Why they keep using them? I don't know, I'm just a silly field biologist and not a medical doctor (or administrator, since they apparently have even more power than the docs do).

A lot of people think they got the coof without actually having had the coof due to those PCR tests and I'm not sure there is any hard data showing that as possible and the data coming out of places bothering to keep track of stuff like that appear to suggest the opposite.

You're right about everything else, but this is actually the opposite.
More people had the Coof than Branch Covidians would like to admit. Its harder to trace an airborne virus where 20-40% of its carriers will be outright asymptomatic and the majority of its carriers only a mild illness.

That's why there is such a discrepancy between CFR (Case Fatality Rate) and IFR (Infection Lethality Rate). Basically, 1 in 50 recorded cases of COVID results in a death, but recorded cases are biased towards symptomatic and hospitalized patients. However, roughly 1 in 400 to 1 in 500 people who actually catch COVID end up dying from it when you estimate for unrecorded infections based on antibody/seroprevalence data.

Yeah American values have become toxic, but other countries still eat that shit up. Your gross "Ex Pats" don't help either. I knew American people who spent the early days of corona harrassing commuters with no masks, recording it and posting it online to the horror of other Europeans.

I was about to disagree with this post and then I read that you're in Europe.
Americans who expatriate to Europe are an entirely different breed than those who decide to spend the rest of their days in some beach town in Asia or Latin America.

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In other news I'm still having trouble finding a clinic willing to write me vaccine exemption note (in Florida of all places), though some seem unwilling more because I've never been a patient and less that they outright refuse to do it for patients.

The temptation to just fake the fucking card is growing...