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In that case, the Conservatives need to adopt some more PPC-ish policies like opposing mask mandates.
Also, what was turn-out like in this election? For some reason I can't find figures for it.
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In that case, the Conservatives need to adopt some more PPC-ish policies like opposing mask mandates.
Also, what was turn-out like in this election? For some reason I can't find figures for it.
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From the looks of it its still in the works due to the mail in ballots. Lots of mail in ballots and probably higher turnout than 2019. Don't think its "Historic" but the news might push that line
Overall though this was a waste of time.
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Believe it or not this is not that controversial in Canada. Outside Toronto and some suburbs blacks are very, very rare.
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He Theresa Mayed himself. This guy must have thought that he has massive support, so decided to call a snap election now, only to either have his internal polling be absolutely dogshit, or put on a completely spastic campaign.
Theresa May did the same a few years ago. Polls were good for the Conservative party in the UK, so to capitalize on it she called a snap election and proceeded to put on one of the worst and most robotic campaigns that made her lose the majority that David Cameron worked hard to get just two years prior. Took until Boris Johnson went full Brexit, including turfing out most of the wets from his party and promising a full Pro Brexit stance, as well as some convenient anti semitism accusations against Corbyn to win a massive majority and a pact with the Brexit party to stand candidates in hard Labour seats.
Trudeau is May in this situation. Likely the only way he wins another election is to either unfuck all the things that made him lose, or the party has to ditch him for someone else and reinvent themselves. Alternatively, they do nothing because Canadians are retards who love this "sex icon" of a leader.
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As a gun owner and a member of CCFR, I reviewed the PPC gun platform. Surprisingly, if you read their firearm platform there is only 2 differences compared to the CPC. First, the license doesn't expire after 5 years but instead is automatic renewal (CPC had weapon amnesty, where you can hold and possibly use your guns for extra time until you get your new license). Firearm's licenses are like health cards and drivers licenses, they have 5 year renewal. Their second policy is a reversal on the OIC. O'Toole had this policy, but walked it back because Trudeau was making large waves in Toronto with this messaging and it still worked, even with the walk back. It's mostly a ceremonial pledge as they both called for reclassification of the firearms act, meaning the method the OIC was used to ban the AR-15 couldn't be used anymore and would unban those guns. So O'Toole didn't really walk back unbanning firearms, he just walked back getting them immediately, now they would've stayed safe-queens for another few months. But now that CPC didn't win, no firearms are leaving safes because of PPCucks.The cope here is wonderful
I told you PPCucks to abandon hope and start the helicopters but you all played Trudeau's games and "voted with your heart". PPC barely had any platforms apart from no lockdowns and muh guns.
Mask mandates are provincial, as are most health based decisions. The only thing O'Toole did campaign on was optional vaccines unlike Trudeaus mandatory vaccine plan. If anti-vax PPCucks knew anything about tactical voting, they would've voted CPC.
Also, currently the CPC has only lost about 0.3% of the vote while PPC gained 3.5%. A lot of this 3.5% could be coming from the Green Party leavers that are hardcore antivax.
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I think he was also gambling on history repeating itself - his father won a majority at the first time of asking, got reduced to a minority four years later, and then won back his majority two years after that.
The big difference seems to have been that Trudeau Sr. was smart enough to allow the opposition parties to vote his minority government out of office, allowing him to accuse them of needlessly forcing an election. I guess not only does talent skip a generation, but so does basic common sense.
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Castro got reduced to a minority?
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Fun fact ladies and gents, PPCucks gave Trudeau a very strong minority, he can work with any of the 3 parties for individual bills. The end result of this election is exactly how it started, Liberals can choose any of the 3 parties to make and pass a bill, likewise they can block any bill with another party. The other 3 parties (BQ, NDP, and CPC) have to work together to pass anything agaisnt the LPC, which is extremely unlikely as they are all different in terms of what they want. Green is irrelevant as always.
Now lets looks at vote splitting, to the PoorPeopleParty:
If all PPC votes go to conservatives, the Liberals will have 140 seats and the CPC will have 144, meaning we'd have a conservative minority. This would cause 2 things, a new PM, but could also be the end of the modern LPC. Trudeau is the first "good leader" they've had in a while, and without him the LPC could fall behind. With this, parties that go from majority -> minority -> opposition rarely keep their leaders, which could've hurt the LPC for the next ten years. Now not all PPC voters are ex-CPC voters, but its important to see real change was obtainable, but due to one french man being buthurt about not being a PM candidate, we now get a minimum of 18months with Trudeau in power.
Now lets looks at vote splitting, to the PoorPeopleParty:
If all PPC votes go to conservatives, the Liberals will have 140 seats and the CPC will have 144, meaning we'd have a conservative minority. This would cause 2 things, a new PM, but could also be the end of the modern LPC. Trudeau is the first "good leader" they've had in a while, and without him the LPC could fall behind. With this, parties that go from majority -> minority -> opposition rarely keep their leaders, which could've hurt the LPC for the next ten years. Now not all PPC voters are ex-CPC voters, but its important to see real change was obtainable, but due to one french man being buthurt about not being a PM candidate, we now get a minimum of 18months with Trudeau in power.
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Mm disagree with this. Prairie separatism is inherently economic/political rather than cultural and simply lacks a driving issue to grow. For example it would've become a thing if Trudeau dumb enough to cancel the Trans-Mountain pipeline expansion.
The lack of issue is the main challenge separatism currently faces. If Trans-Mountain took the wind out of its sails, Trudeau and Covid ensured it was placed on the back burner. There will inevitably be something which comes up which drives its growth again because (as with other western countries) there's a lot of pain coming down the pipeline and the Libs have made some very pricey promises which will hurt the west.
Also don't think there's no international support, if the prairies did secede the US would recognize it immediately - and they're the only ones needed. The area is too strategically important to ignore and they wouldn't turn up the chance to potentially annex it outright.
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Meh, I voted PPC knowing that my area would go full Liberal without a doubt, so if I'm going to waste a vote, I might as well say fuck you to the current CPC.
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Green party voters are most definitely not anti-vax. In fact the green part and its voters are the most radical liberals in canada. Most of the green party voters are adamant about wanting segregated facilities for anti vaxxers and to treat them as second class citizens.
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cope. Most of those will be Liberal and conservative boomer votes. The news already announced the minority win, its over
CONSEDE
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You would have done more simply jerking yourself off at home, at least then Elections Canada would've counted your riding a little bit faster and let poll workers go home a bit earlier. The "PPC protest vote" makes no sense since they don't have a real platform and you can't tell what you're protesting, lockdowns/vaccines or domestic policy. Your "fuck you to the current CPC" has given Bernier enough votes to reach 5%, becoming an official party, with tax exempt rules, so he can grift harder for the next few years.
For those who don't know, Bernier is the biggest opportunist in the game, here's the history of a "true Canadian":
1. Seperatist,
2. Federalist Minister of Pork for Quebec,
3.Biker Babes (Hell's Angels)
4. anti-mask, anti-vax & anti-facts,
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Can't merge quotes after posting, so double post because I'm a brainlet.
Green party is where the radical-eco-crazies in Canada go, along with the "normal" environmentally conscience voters. Everyone (political teams/pollsters of all sides) talked about Green Party decline and only showing rise to the PPC in some locations, so either there's some crazies there, or an equal portion of voters moved from GPC, to NDP, to LPC, to CPC, to PPC. There's a lot of far-left people in their ranks, you can see how their party leader didn't want to glass Israel and is being removed because of it, since there's a lot hardcore anti-Semites in their caucus.
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Have you looked at their platform? They have as much to do with the environment as any other party in Canada. 80% of their policies have to do with identity politics and the worst kind of leftist viewing points.
Kiwisee
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Obviously they will all be for the sultan
I wouldn’t be surprised if they give the sultan more seats
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Two Green Party MLAs who chose not to vote on a contentious vaccination bill last week are defending the decision to abstain in the face of what one calls "a social media storm."
Progressive Conservative Education Minister Dominic Cardy slammed the abstentions last week, saying the Green MLAs were afraid of "extremists in your base. … Legislators are elected to legislate. You hid."
I don't need to read what their current leaders platform is to know their history of being anti-vax. Keep in mind, their leader was going to be removed by Christmas but an election being called kept her on. The Greens have crazies, seen here in Canada and across the sea in the UK green party as well.
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In that scenario, the combined Liberal+NDP+Green seat count would be 162; not a majority, but still enough to keep the Conservatives out of power unless they somehow manage to get the Bloc on-side. The lack of another right-wing party in parliament really looks to be a problem for them.
Looking at past elections, it seems that there was once another right-wing party (Social Credit) that the Conservatives used to fall back on whenever they fell short of a majority, but they apparently dropped off the map at the start of the 80s. So it seems that two right-wing parties can exist in Canada without buttfucking each other in the process, they just don't seem to have been able to do it for the last four decades.
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