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Immunocompromised people and people with allergies that can't get the vaccines for whatever reason exist.
Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.
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When the Reddit General thread from Community Watch was featured on the front page a couple of weeks ago, A&N showed up and never left. Crossposting from yesterday:
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These people don't believe anyone dies from COVID--they only die with COVID--so 5x the number of lives saved is still 0.
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can you translate that from crippling brain damage to english please? what the fuck does "only die with covid" even mean? is it like claiming how no one actually dies from a gunshot wound, they just die from internal bleeding with a bullet coincidentally inside their liver?
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The author of that piece sounds like the sort of person who thinks that being tolerant means never ever criticizing another person's beliefs, no matter how harmful those beliefs may be.
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I wonder what username he uses when posting in A&N.
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@Lemmingwise also has a bad habit of doubleposting. Come to think of it, a lot of the COVIDiots on this site are doubleposters.
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The source he uses from that post is a doctor, with a podcast where he talks about "controversial and underreported things in medicine", who sources from VAERs when talking on a FDA panel. He also claimed that since 5 more people who got the vax died in the study versus the control group (out of tens of thousands), that the vaccine was more dangerous than covid itself. I always thought doctors had to take statistics courses, but apparently not because he should realize that you gotta factor in the number of people who got vaccinated that ended up not dying of covid that would have without, not just "vaccine control vs vaccine group" in the trial itself.
Basically, a quack doctor cherry picking stuff in a very inaccurate way to get more listeners for his stupid podcast.
More cherry picking from the anti-vax tards
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Most of them think everyone is really dying of old age, diabetes, or obesity. COVID is just kind of there in the background, and even if it did make the person sick unto death, the blame really lies with the other condition. Some of them also believe there is an orchestrated campaign to code non-COVID deaths as COVID in order to inflate the COVID death count for a nefarious purpose.
It's true that most (?) COVID deaths do have some other health condition or are rather elderly--in this COVID is unlike your gunshot example. It's also true some COVID cases are patients whose infection is incidental or even nosocomial. If you show up at the hospital with a broken leg, and you have an asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection, are you really a COVID case? But it's quite a leap to go from these premises to, "Therefore no one actually dies of COVID and there is a conspiracy to say otherwise."
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They often don't really want to count it if you die from say, pneumonia, after COVID complications. Which there's a lot of in that famous 99.8% survival rate. Yeah, you'll survive COVID but your lungs might be all fucked up for a while or whatever.
And I agree to some extent that COVID can be overhyped by the media (much like anything they cover) or self-interested parties, but now that it's so easy to avoid a lot of this with a shot or two... Especially to just turn around and reverse all your arguments to take Ivermectin or monoclonal antibodies, based on some sketchy source, neither of which are approved by the FDA yet and are using the same type of EUA the vaccines used. But at least they aren't cucks!
And I agree to some extent that COVID can be overhyped by the media (much like anything they cover) or self-interested parties, but now that it's so easy to avoid a lot of this with a shot or two... Especially to just turn around and reverse all your arguments to take Ivermectin or monoclonal antibodies, based on some sketchy source, neither of which are approved by the FDA yet and are using the same type of EUA the vaccines used. But at least they aren't cucks!
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this
so instead what they do is generalize, round down, and deny. because it's faster to do that instead of grappling with nuance for two seconds. this is a disease that's barely been around for two years at this point. modern medicine is great and all, but rome wasn't built in a day and we're still trying to figure out a lot of stuff on the fly, especially since this fucking piece of shit keeps mutating every other week.
but hey, since cletus knows so much about immunology/pathology/virology/epidemiology/microbiology, maybe we should ask him how to hit a moving target like this. i bet the meme jpegs he ripped from facebook have some kind of hidden knowledge that's eluded the best and brightest minds.
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on top of like six other things (refusing to get tested while sick, mistaking a mild case for the flu, false positives, false negatives, etc) means that it's going to be really hard for statisticians to get a completely accurate count of true and honest covid-19 cases, even with the power of hindsight once this finally starts tapering off. and it sucks, because when there's so many of these little factors obfuscating the potential scale of what we're dealing with it just makes it even harder for the general public to come to terms with what's happening and the brainlets in the crowd to grasp.
so instead what they do is generalize, round down, and deny. because it's faster to do that instead of grappling with nuance for two seconds. this is a disease that's barely been around for two years at this point. modern medicine is great and all, but rome wasn't built in a day and we're still trying to figure out a lot of stuff on the fly, especially since this fucking piece of shit keeps mutating every other week.
but hey, since cletus knows so much about immunology/pathology/virology/epidemiology/microbiology, maybe we should ask him how to hit a moving target like this. i bet the meme jpegs he ripped from facebook have some kind of hidden knowledge that's eluded the best and brightest minds.
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Part of it, too, is that when you get covid and covid ends up giving you pneumonia or renal failure, it's the pneumonia or renal failure that kills you and not covid. These spazes then think that this doesn't count as a covid death, which is completely retarded. HIV doesn't kill you, but secondary infections do, but it still counts as a HIV death
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I could understand why a red neck hick won’t get the vaccine (because of the opioid crisis) or a black dude (becuase they used to be guena pigs for vaccines or something). However most of the anti vacciner I have seen are middle class Americans and their spokesmen are upper class Americans. People who don’t have any excuse to take the vaccine expect for “muh freedom”. I could understand protesting lockdowns but vaccines are just retarded. Literally just take the jab, and we can get it over with quick.
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Explain to these people that unvaccinated people will contribute to COVID growing stronger. Then we'd be right back to where we started.
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That last one makes it seem like she really was happy for her sister to die
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Upper class Americans who have themselves been jabbed more often than not. The antivax shit is just to rile up their retard army. You can tell the true believers like those radio ranters because they croak of COVID.