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Phil went on a tirade tonight about people who tip and expect the streamer to read it and then when the streamer doesn't because the message is rude they proceed with chargebacks and said that "who do they think they are" and talked about how they expect things for their money. (I think part of the rant where he compared his services to a waiter or bartender)

I found it interesting because doesn't one of his slides or his tip page say any tip above "x amount" will be read on stream and given a shout out ? If thats the case then they have a good claim to charge back. They are paying for a service and not getting it.
 
Phil went on a tirade tonight about people who tip and expect the streamer to read it and then when the streamer doesn't because the message is rude they proceed with chargebacks and said that "who do they think they are" and talked about how they expect things for their money. (I think part of the rant where he compared his services to a waiter or bartender)

I found it interesting because doesn't one of his slides or his tip page say any tip above "x amount" will be read on stream and given a shout out ? If thats the case then they have a good claim to charge back. They are paying for a service and not getting it.
Everyone knows that people go to restaurants just to talk to the nice, positive staff and have a relaxing time
Getting food brought to you is just a bonus, shouldn't be expected
And Phil should know about restaurants more than any of us
 
Phil went on a tirade tonight about people who tip and expect the streamer to read it and then when the streamer doesn't because the message is rude they proceed with chargebacks and said that "who do they think they are" and talked about how they expect things for their money. (I think part of the rant where he compared his services to a waiter or bartender)

I found it interesting because doesn't one of his slides or his tip page say any tip above "x amount" will be read on stream and given a shout out ? If thats the case then they have a good claim to charge back. They are paying for a service and not getting it.
I hate to side with Phil on anything at all, but he's kind of right. And that's also one of the reasons why people who obvious troll tip get called retarded. Even if he has a prstream slide that says he'll read out tips above X, that's not a legally binding contract where he now has to read everything you put. To use a non-Phil example, tons of big kickstarter projects will include you in the name of the credits if you donate a few bucks. If you tried to put your name as Fuck Niggers or something, they obviously won't put that in.

But, if we were just talking about generic messages Phil didn't read out because he missed them or was lazy or whatever, and then he complains about people trying to get money for something, well, he'd naturally be wrong. It sounds more like a "Thanks for the money, dummy" moment, which, yeah, it's dumb to tip Phil just to insult him when you can insult him for free in chat. IMO, it's still dumb, but if you absolutely have to throw money at Phil to "troll" him, at least do something subtle so he will read it out and look dumb.
 
He would actually make a lot of money if he did a 50.00 minimum I'll read whatever you put in the tip if it isn't homophobic/racist or would get him banned or whatever.

Then he would have to suffer through it but all he has to do is read the message out loud, not have any reaction other than "thank you for the tip" and move on.

Cyber Bowling tipped 50.00 and says "I'm addicted to gambling and gin and my life is in shambles thank you cyber bowling for the tip"!

Fapcop tips and says "I love to masturbate to sweaty hulk hogan pics" thank you fapcop for the tip

Agent Proper tipped 50.00 and says OIC wants to wear me as a skin suit" well I hope that never happens but thank you for the 50.

Not suggesting those specific people would tip. Just making examples. You know his wheelchairs and some trolls alike would be all in. Wings did it a time or two and made some good tips. I doubt Phil's pride and ego could handle it though.
 
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Phil claimed that, since their days off got all messed up this week, he and Kat didn't have any food in the house, so they just ordered Chinese food.

First of all, he has apparently moved away from the narrative that he had to move his day off this week because he didn't make enough money for it. Now it's just, abstractly, 'things got screwed up'.
Second, if he couldn't afford groceries, how did he spring for delivery? And why did Kat not go pick it up since she is clearly also off work today? If Kat is off, why is today not Phil's day off?

He started off stream saying that he could use tip money to 'spend tomorrow' on his day off, though. He did not specify groceries, which is a first for the day-before-the-day-off evening stream.
He has absolutely no idea how to beg right now. You can see him fumbling to find an angle but making no firm statements, and there are gaps everywhere in this nonsense.
 
Phil claimed that, since their days off got all messed up this week, he and Kat didn't have any food in the house, so they just ordered Chinese food.

First of all, he has apparently moved away from the narrative that he had to move his day off this week because he didn't make enough money for it. Now it's just, abstractly, 'things got screwed up'.
Second, if he couldn't afford groceries, how did he spring for delivery? And why did Kat not go pick it up since she is clearly also off work today? If Kat is off, why is today not Phil's day off?

He started off stream saying that he could use tip money to 'spend tomorrow' on his day off, though. He did not specify groceries, which is a first for the day-before-the-day-off evening stream.
He has absolutely no idea how to beg right now. You can see him fumbling to find an angle but making no firm statements, and there are gaps everywhere in this nonsense.
I love watching the development of the grocery beg in real time. It started as another bullet on the list of reasons for why he needs so much money. Then it became the only reason whenever he "resolved" the latest bill crisis. Then it turned into "I want to have money for my day off!". And now it's something he can't do because he knows the trolls will be laughing their asses off if he does.
It should've been too pathetic to mention from the beginning, but that's Phil for you.
$300 at Target and Fred Meyer apparently isn't enough to feed his farm family for five days. Sounds good. Hey Phil, you had a sandwich and rice for dinner yesterday, why not have that again? It'll help you save money so you aren't late on your mortgage payment, again.
It's such a joke. I can buy a loaf of bread and some butter at my local bakery for like six dollars. That's breakfast for a week.
 
Second, if he couldn't afford groceries, how did he spring for delivery? And why did Kat not go pick it up since she is clearly also off work today? If Kat is off, why is today not Phil's day off?
Also, why didn't kat just buy some ? doesn't she work in a kroger or something ?
also, missing phil logic here, too lazy to buy groceries but not lazy enough to order Chinese food. He needs actual effort to visit a grocery store.
 
It's such a joke. I can buy a loaf of bread and some butter at my local bakery for like six dollars. That's breakfast for a week.
Remember when Phil said he didn't even have time to butter his bagel

I'm guessing if we found that clip we could identify his spending and find doordashing or eating out that day
 
Jake Lasso tipped $6.66 but didn't get the animation with Phil's ass on fire. His tip message referenced asses on fire. Phil stated that he didn't know why the animation didn't trigger and was very specific that it in his StreamElements list. He then commented that there have been $100 tips that never played the animation. This leads me to believe it was a direct tip and these idiots want to obscure that fact for some reason.

Regardless, Phil said it was unfortunate the animation didn't play. Correct me if I'm wrong, but could he not force the animation to play for the guy? Why would you not do that when you're trying to drum up tips? The guy gave you the money, play him his stupid animation. Or just sit there and feign helplessness and maybe he'll be stupid enough to tip the amount again to try and get it to trigger.
 
Jake Lasso tipped $6.66 but didn't get the animation with Phil's ass on fire. His tip message referenced asses on fire. Phil stated that he didn't know why the animation didn't trigger and was very specific that it in his StreamElements list. He then commented that there have been $100 tips that never played the animation. This leads me to believe it was a direct tip and these idiots want to obscure that fact for some reason.

Regardless, Phil said it was unfortunate the animation didn't play. Correct me if I'm wrong, but could he not force the animation to play for the guy? Why would you not do that when you're trying to drum up tips? The guy gave you the money, play him his stupid animation. Or just sit there and feign helplessness and maybe he'll be stupid enough to tip the amount again to try and get it to trigger.
He 100% can test any animation he wants in his stream. He said it before when he was setting it up citing he had a special 50 or 100 dollar animation and would just have to wait and see when someone tipped (to entice a wheelchair to be the first)

Some other streamers (and detractors) went in to show that they can trigger it if they want to.

In all actuality Phil probably just doesn't know how. For being a full time professional streamer he doesn't know how to do a lot of things that he should.
 
He just got paid by YT, so he just got a boost of cash to placate him,
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Jake Lasso tipped $6.66 but didn't get the animation with Phil's ass on fire. His tip message referenced asses on fire. Phil stated that he didn't know why the animation didn't trigger and was very specific that it in his StreamElements list. He then commented that there have been $100 tips that never played the animation. This leads me to believe it was a direct tip and these idiots want to obscure that fact for some reason.

Regardless, Phil said it was unfortunate the animation didn't play. Correct me if I'm wrong, but could he not force the animation to play for the guy? Why would you not do that when you're trying to drum up tips? The guy gave you the money, play him his stupid animation. Or just sit there and feign helplessness and maybe he'll be stupid enough to tip the amount again to try and get it to trigger.
Game Trekker tipped 6.66 during the hades stream and it didn't show up. I remember he mentioned it in chat, but DSP never said anything about it.
 
Jake Lasso tipped $6.66 but didn't get the animation with Phil's ass on fire. His tip message referenced asses on fire. Phil stated that he didn't know why the animation didn't trigger and was very specific that it in his StreamElements list. He then commented that there have been $100 tips that never played the animation. This leads me to believe it was a direct tip and these idiots want to obscure that fact for some reason.

Regardless, Phil said it was unfortunate the animation didn't play. Correct me if I'm wrong, but could he not force the animation to play for the guy? Why would you not do that when you're trying to drum up tips? The guy gave you the money, play him his stupid animation. Or just sit there and feign helplessness and maybe he'll be stupid enough to tip the amount again to try and get it to trigger.
I'm 100% sure you can play those animations. I think he even did that before.

However, this Jake Lasso is a complete idiot. He always tips $6.66 to see this awful animation, but he just could go back and rewatch the animation from a previous stream. But no, he keeps tipping $6.66 again and again... And they feel offended when we call them wheelchairs.
 
Phil went on a tirade tonight about people who tip and expect the streamer to read it and then when the streamer doesn't because the message is rude they proceed with chargebacks and said that "who do they think they are" and talked about how they expect things for their money. (I think part of the rant where he compared his services to a waiter or bartender)

I found it interesting because doesn't one of his slides or his tip page say any tip above "x amount" will be read on stream and given a shout out ? If thats the case then they have a good claim to charge back. They are paying for a service and not getting it.
His chargeback tale has been debunked by the financials.
 
His chargeback tale has been debunked by the financials.
Well maybe not 100%.
The chargebacks would hit his Paypal,right? So they would not show up in the leaks.

But maybe the really awesome numbers guys (the turbo autist squad) have been able to figure it out with the leaks, and I'm just to retarded to have figured it out (very likely actually)?
 
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