Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[SneedEyeMitch]

Can you believe it? The CDC overruled the FDA panel and recommends more people get boosters.

So how will this legally work?

 

[mdrop22]

TL;DR - I don't think Biden was ever going to officially ask OSHA to do anything. I think Biden is just trying to scare corporations into doing his bidding.

I agree for the most part. I don't think he predicted that so many governors would flat out say no. That creates a really awkward situation for nationwide companies with many employees. Why would they spend the time and money to enforce vaccines on the west coast only when employees in say, Kansas, don't need to follow the same rules. It's not even the state itself issuing these "laws". It makes no fucking sense.

Biden needs to step back and realize this is a states issue. It's up to individual governors to decide what and how to enforce any laws. The blanket federal mandate will never work in a country like the US.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Gilead gamble again with Remdesivir against corona-chan.

Gilead Study Shows Remdesivir Reduced Risk Of Hospitalization When Given To COVID-19 Patients Early | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

The antiviral remdesivir treatment reduced the risk of hospitalization among COVID-19 patients when administered soon after they were diagnosed, according to a new study from Gilead Sciences, which developed remdesivir.

Researchers found that remdesivir cut the risk of hospitalization by 87 percent compared to a placebo that half of the study participants received.

A total of 562 patients, all deemed at high-risk from COVID-19, were enrolled in the trial.

The Phase 3 study was a randomized, double-blind trial, but trial enrollment stopped in April because the company struggled to find enough participants. It continued to follow those who had enrolled, half of whom were given a placebo.

The new study showed a similar safety profile to the placebo and no deaths occurred in either group by the primary endpoint at day 28, though one person who was given the placebo died on day 59, Gilead said.

Gilead plans to share its findings with the Food and Drug Administration and present the full trial results this week at IDWeek, a medical conference.

 

[Salubrious]

I agree for the most part. I don't think he predicted that so many governors would flat out say no. That creates a really awkward situation for nationwide companies with many employees. Why would they spend the time and money to enforce vaccines on the west coast only when employees in say, Kansas, don't need to follow the same rules. It's not even the state itself issuing these "laws". It makes no fucking sense.

Biden needs to step back and realize this is a states issue. It's up to individual governors to decide what and how to enforce any laws. The blanket federal mandate will never work in a country like the US.

I have to disagree with your first point. There was no chance that Biden didn't know that the governors of Republican states would tell him to fuck off. If Biden didn't, then he's actually more senile and out of touch than I thought, and that covers a LOT of ground. Or Biden is in a serious left-wing bubble, which is also possible.

 

[mdrop22]

I have to disagree with your first point. There was no chance that Biden didn't know that the governors of Republican states would tell him to fuck off. If Biden didn't, then he's actually more senile and out of touch than I thought, and that covers a LOT of ground. Or Biden is in a serious left-wing bubble, which is also possible.

What would be the purpose of declaring the mandate then, other than posturing? It seems like it will make him look weaker in the long run if he doesn't put his fist down.

 

[Billy Beer]

UK news suddenly embracing 'covid over by spring' narrative even harder, probably due to the absolute shitstorm brewing over petrol rationing, lack of truckers and food shortages. Boris even asked the Aussies to relax covid restrictions so the Ashes can go ahead and the people can have their circuses and Matt Hancock is having his personal emails and messages searched in relation to Covid contracts. Already seeing huge queues outside petrol stations across the city, haven't seen anything like it since Blair's Fuel Crisis. In other 'the scamdemic has fucked up this country for years to come' news, 200,000 young people have been referred to mental health services in the past 3 months - double pre pandemic levels. Weird PL - Everyone i work/come into contact with has come down with a fairly mean cold/flu lasting 2-3 weeks, but I shook it off in under 3 days, they've all had at least one vax; circumstantial I know but i'm no pinnacle of health, I should have been just as under the weather as them, unless the vax really does fuck with your immune system.

Funny that the shortages and crises are coming from people protesting vaccines or healthy people being forced to stay home after being 'pinged' for exposure to covid, restrictions we placed on ourselves, and not people dropping dead of covid leaving no one to work. Winter will be interesting.

I've had the cold, had the worst bit for a few days then it was just a cough that lasted about five days. No jab

My mate has it and it's kicking her arse, no jab. But she's a bird.

It was discussed up thread and a poster said, quite rightly, that we've had no exposure to flu or cold for over 18 months. If you remember earlier this year, hayfever was really bad for a lot of people.

Winter is going to be bad though.

 

[Salubrious]

What would be the purpose of declaring the mandate then, other than posturing?

I think that's the answer: posturing.

Biden knows from the SC ruling on the rent freeze that he has no legal authority, so he's trying to make corporations do it for him by swaying public opinion. I think the point is that he wants the Democrats and MSM to pressure the companies to enforce something he knows he can't do legally.

 

[mdrop22]

I think that's the answer: posturing.

Biden knows from the SC ruling on the rent freeze that he has no legal authority, so he's trying to make corporations do it for him by swaying public opinion. I think the point is that he wants the Democrats and MSM to pressure the companies to enforce something he knows he can't do legally.

Fair enough but that sounds like a bad idea politically. Like I said, if he doesn't follow through and force compliance in all states it will make Biden look weak. However, maybe the people in charge know Biden isn't going to make it much longer, so it doesn't matter and this is them taking a shot at something crazy and semi-legal. If it doesn't work out they can scapegoat Biden later.

 

[Salubrious]

Fair enough but that sounds like a bad idea politically. Like I said, if he doesn't follow through and force compliance in all states it will make Biden look weak. However, maybe the people in charge know Biden isn't going to make it much longer, so it doesn't matter and this is them taking a shot at something crazy and semi-legal. If it doesn't work out they can scapegoat Biden later.

Literally everything Biden does is a bad idea politically. His first act as President was to ban the Keystone pipeline.

 

[Protistology]

Fair enough but that sounds like a bad idea politically. Like I said, if he doesn't follow through and force compliance in all states it will make Biden look weak. However, maybe the people in charge know Biden isn't going to make it much longer, so it doesn't matter and this is them taking a shot at something crazy and semi-legal. If it doesn't work out they can scapegoat Biden later.

Daily reminder Woodrow Wilson had dementia in office and:

1. Created the Federal Income Tax (Social Engineering to keep the poor poor and strip money from the middle class)
2. Created the League of Nations
3. Created the Federal Reserve
4. Joined World War 1

 

[Bakarina]

At this point Biden is an 'unfortunate' puppet for the Globohomo to test the waters of "The Great Reset", if it works then that's great! If there's too much backlash then they can easily put Biden down and back away for a few years all while chipping away at more and more freedoms until we're all in pods eating bugs while the elite dines on actual food.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Making a vaccine agaisnt a corona virus is basically impossible with today's technology. They have failed everytime they have tried due to how fast they mutate.

So looking back at SARS research supposedly part of the mutation issue was two-fold.
1) the wild-type virus mutates and changes to where the vaccine-induced immunity no longer prevents it
2) the vaccine-type virus actually mutates back to something with lethality similar to the wild-type.

Now for SARS-1, which kills like 10% of those it infects, yeah this is a huge issue. So when COVID first came around and genetically its closest *human* relative (there are still like 3 bat coronaviruses closer to our girl Coronachan), they assumed that someone catching COVID from the vaccine would be a worst-case scenario.

It would also explain why the initial vaccine messaging was all focused around "it can't give you COVID!", as if that's why people were concerned over taking an experimental vaccine for a low-lethality virus.

The shots instruct your body to produce spike proteins to attempt to teach your immune system to fight off spike proteins so that covid cannot attach to any cells once in your body. Now, ignoring the fact that the spike protein is actually toxic by itself and all the complications that means, we now need a way to tell your body what to make and how.

Also ignoring the other surface proteins, mainly the envelope/capsid protein.

Which is *possibly* *one of* the reasons natural immunity is being found to (despite earlier speculation) protect better than the vaccine because your T-cells & B-cells recognize more of the virus beyond just the spike protein.

 

[Parasaurolophus]

Here comes the mRNA messenger shots that send RNA into your cells to produce said spike protein. Now remember, mRNA vaccines like this have failed all animal trials due to the animals dying once they encounter a wild strain of whatever they were trying to protect them agaisnt. The animals immune system attacked itself and the virus went rampant throughout their bodies.

I'm sorry if you have mentioned that before and I just haven't seen it, but would you mind linking to something that covers these cases? Is there an explanation for why this happened? And if it supposedly failed all animal trials in the past, it seems to be pretty successful with humans for now?

 

[Salubrious]

This is the crazy former head of Planned Parenthood doctor that the MSM keeps parading out there.

In 20 seconds, almost literally the same sentence, she claims that the vaccinated may carry MORE of the virus, therefore she needs to protect her children from the UNVACCINATED.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I'm sorry if you have mentioned that before and I just haven't seen it, but would you mind linking to something that covers these cases? Is there an explanation for why this happened? And if it supposedly failed all animal trials in the past, it seems to be pretty successful with humans for now?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-megathread.65421/page-2917#post-9892871

This post linked a few studies.
Most of them are coronavirus-related and deal more with ADE-style infections in the study cohort, rather than the autoimmune disorder side of things, but it's still a start.

This is the crazy former head of Planned Parenthood doctor that the MSM keeps parading out there.

In 20 seconds, almost literally the same sentence, she claims that the vaccinated may carry MORE of the virus, therefore she needs to protect her children from the UNVACCINATED.
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Nool give us our stickers back!

 

[Salubrious]

I have to run, but I'm seeing on Twitter that Scandanavian countries like Norway, Sweden, et cetera are basically lifting ALL restrictions in the next week.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I have to run, but I'm seeing on Twitter that Scandanavian countries like Norway, Sweden, et cetera are basically lifting ALL restrictions in the next week.

It’s only now that the supply chain problems are staring them in the face that the Elites will begin to pivot away from COVID, (not altogether, though. Never altogether), and toward this supply chain issue as yet another “common threat” for all the good folks to band together and fight against. I imagine that we’ll get a speech from Biden at some point, echoing W, telling folks that it’s their patriotic duty to go out there and spend money.

 

[Drain Todger]

They keep finding bizarre nanoparticles and crystalline or self-assembling structures in the vaccines under SEM/TEM microscopy.

Cause of death after COVID-19 vaccination & Undeclared components of the COVID-19 vaccines

https://pathologie-konferenz.de/en/

odysee.com

Well, that’s not good.

 

[Parasaurolophus]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-megathread.65421/page-2917#post-9892871

This post linked a few studies.
Most of them are coronavirus-related and deal more with ADE-style infections in the study cohort, rather than the autoimmune disorder side of things, but it's still a start.




Nool give us our stickers back!

Thank you for the link! That's a lot to read through, but from what I could gather so far (from the first article) is that results seem to vary due to species differences and other factors. It'll be interesting how this applies to our current situation.

 

[Jarolleon]

At this point Biden is an 'unfortunate' puppet for the Globohomo to test the waters of "The Great Reset", if it works then that's great! If there's too much backlash then they can easily put Biden down and back away for a few years all while chipping away at more and more freedoms until we're all in pods eating bugs while the elite dines on actual food.

And even that is just an intensification of how it's been since the 80s, with processed food being so cheap & common.