US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

That would require imagination, or at the very minimum an ability to forsee direct consequences of your actions. In case you haven't noticed neither are in high supply in the people in charge of things.

Read the response of the hospital in long island(?) that cannot deliver babies anymore due to 30 nurses quitting over the vaxx mandate. The "boss" or whoever spoke to the media never even considered the fact people wouldn't take it and what it would mean if the people just left or were fired.

The left cannot and does not and in fact refuses to think about much less look at the consequences of their actions and policies. In the 60's it was at least two or three steps down the line, right now they aren't able to see what's right around the corner. Every week their policies are a rake they step on.

Sure, but this time, I was talking about private enterprises that should have realized vax mandates were going to be like Obamacare and look for ways to evade it whenever possible. Especially when their lawyers are telling them to wait and see.

 

[Rykel22]

Dude, California grows more food than all of Europe combined. The entire place is a farm except for the coasts and one desert bordering Nevada/Arizona.

And yet their power and water come from out if state. Can grow food if water goes bye-bye.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Dude, California grows more food than all of Europe combined. The entire place is a farm except for the coasts and one desert bordering Nevada/Arizona.

Yet we still buy our produce from Mexico.

 

[Puff]

Dude, California grows more food than all of Europe combined. The entire place is a farm except for the coasts and one desert bordering Nevada/Arizona.

Yeah, but they're mostly doing luxury foods. No staples. And the cities surely aren't growing things.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

And yet their power and water come from out if state. Can grow food if water goes bye-bye.

Southern California, ie LA, steals water from NorCal and the Colorado. Take LA out of the equation and California is wholly self-sufficient.

Yet we still buy our produce from Mexico.

Stop growing those fucking almonds.

 

[chiobu]

https://twitter.com/profgalloway/status/1442613458432929794

 

[LurkTrawl]

Make less profit.

Ha, good joke.

This always annoys me when I see the line of thinking "we can't increase minimum wage because companies will charge and more and increase inflation!!". Instead of being a corporate cock-sucker, we could limit the profit that companies could make. Does Amazon need 1 trillion dollars? How about 500 Billion (still an incredible amount of money) and the other 500 billion is spread between the work force?

The sound you'd be hearing shortly after implementing such a policy would be the rushing of untold amounts of monetary value fleeing the country at light-speed.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Sure, but this time, I was talking about private enterprises that should have realized vax mandates were going to be like Obamacare and look for ways to evade it whenever possible. Especially when their lawyers are telling them to wait and see.

Hospitals aren't really private enterprises. Some are supposed to be but it's a weird goverment/private hybrid with all the the problems of both and very few of the benefits of either.

I may be wrong about that, but its the only way the governor could force the Nat Guard to be nurses, legally. I know that doesn't matter and more importantly it won't work but the goverment cannot force a purely private enterprise to fire someone nor fill their staff.

 

[XYZpdq]

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https://twitter.com/profgalloway/status/1442613458432929794

Dang, Harvard is a bunch of nerds.

 

[Socrates]

Isn't that what happened with the big recession that led to the great depression? The rich inflated the prices of the stocks, then all pulled out at the same time to make maximum profits, then the whole thing imploded, only for them to do the same thing a second time (inflate stock prices, withdraw everything at the peak) which led to the great depression?

Basically yes. One of the main things that exacerbated the great depression was the NY central banks loose (for the time, if they saw how things are now they would think we are absolutely insane) monetary policy.

Think about this little tidbit too. By law the banks are required to only keep a fraction of the money they receive from customers on hand. At least they used to, before the Fed decided in 2020 that they don't even have to do that anymore.

That's right, the banks now don't have to make any of their financial decisions on any kind of baseline, they've been given the greenlight to basically do whatever the fuck they want. Can't see anything going wrong there!

 

[Billy Beer]

Dude, California grows more food than all of Europe combined. The entire place is a farm except for the coasts and one desert bordering Nevada/Arizona.

It was an example of a city. Pick any built up, major city in America and deny it food for a while. It doesn't matter if 99% of your food is sat in Alabama if it can't get to the metropolitan areas. I am frequently reminded of how vast of a scale America is. If all of the UK food came from Romania and the romanians couldn't ship it to the UK, we would be fucked. As would France (who would intercept food heading for the UK) etc etc.

No.

Why?

Hyper-capitalism will be the death of capitalism, and the death of billions. Capitalism is the greatest invention mankind has ever come up with. But it was never meant to vacuum money from the population to an extent that Bezos and Billy G have. Create wealth, have a rich class, but don't take the fucking piss like they are doing. OR use the money to improve the lives of the working class/everyday man on the street.

Ha, good joke.

People skate around why we can't do it, without laying out how it can be done, because IT CAN be done, we just don't want to because reasons.

The sound you'd be hearing shortly after implementing such a policy would be the rushing of untold amounts of monetary value fleeing the country at light-speed.

In the 1950's.

We're now a global economy more than we have ever been. Which country will that money go to? Hong Kong? London? Frankfurt? Luxemburg?

The idea that the jews will run away with all the money in Germany is out-dated. On this very forum, in this very thread, Americans have told me how America going bankrupt would end the world. But if all of the wealth transfered to France, for talks sake, what would change? "If France goes bankrupt, it would be the end of the world".

Global economy.

 

[mold]

Employers might be waffling on vaccine mandates but universities sure the fuck aren't.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Yeah, but they're mostly doing luxury foods. No staples. And the cities surely aren't growing things.

Wat? California grows staples, rice is a staple, Cal-Rose is a variety of rice bred specifically to grow in California. Again, the cities don't need to grow anything.

I'm going to blow your mind: California has vast petroleum reserves, enough to meet the needs of Californians for decades and more. It isn't pumped anymore because "muh environment".

But if you are going to allow every illegal to slum in California, then the state cannot meet the needs of everyone and becomes trash. As it is currently atm.

 

[The Big O]

Employers might be waffling on vaccine mandates but universities sure the fuck aren't.

Because colleges and universities have the government's bony hand firmly up their asses that they will do anything. Private employers are clenching their sphincters in anticipation of Biden's mandate attempt getting struck down so they don't invite wrongful termination lawsuits by jumping the gun too soon.

 

[Overly Serious]

Make less profit.

This always annoys me when I see the line of thinking "we can't increase minimum wage because companies will charge and more and increase inflation!!". Instead of being a corporate cock-sucker, we could limit the profit that companies could make. Does Amazon need 1 trillion dollars? How about 500 Billion (still an incredible amount of money) and the other 500 billion is spread between the work force?

Any ideas along those lines cannot work unless you severely limit international trade. The US doesn't allow a company to be bigger than X capitalization? Okay, so the company moves to a country that does and continues to do business in the US. What are you going to do? Introduce big tariffs on foreign business? Well that's my point - you can't do these sorts of ideas without ways of limiting international trade and restricting capital flight.

As to this idea specifically? Companies are legal constructs. People invest in them to make a profit. You're now limiting investment in your country's companies. You're also hamstringing companies' forecasting and potential. "Oh, no! We had a better year than expected. We're going to hit the cap, we'll be forced to break up our company / start giving away our profit". You're essentially incentivising companies to do worse. The practical version of what you're talking about would be less of a cap and more like progressive taxation for companies. Some countries already do this.

There isn't really a one-size fits all approach to "does a company really need X dollars". For one, companies rarely have uninvested money in large quantities. They keep some for liquidity but they're already incentivised not to do that because uninvested money is unprofitable money. It's a risk-balance thing. And that is influenced by the nature of the business and market conditions. Frankly, I do not rate the government's competence to judge such things better than the companies' own self-interests. And if you're talking about profits, then that's bringing us back to it being the investor's money. You'd be better off taxing investor's profits - which is what is done.

I think you're underlying goal is to reduce the power of big companies. To do that I would rather advocate limiting lobbying and the revolving door between business and government ("Congratulations on your election, Senator - we'll pencil in the Goldman Sach's board position for 2028, shall we?"). And also strengthening and purging the institutions that are supposed to patrol companies like the SEC.

With the possible exception of de-privatising the Federal Reserve, I'd say we have a corruption problem more than we have a fundamentals problem. I.e. it's less the design that needs fixing but the implementation. The rot is deep.

 

[mold]

Universities have the government's bony hand firmly up their asses. Private employers are clenching their sphincters in anticipation of Biden's mandate attempt getting struck down so they don't invite wrongful termination lawsuits by jumping the gun too soon.

Most universities also *already* had vaccine mandates which nobody cared about or noticed before all of this fuckery.

 

[LurkTrawl]

People skate around why we can't do it, without laying out how it can be done, because IT CAN be done, we just don't want to because reasons.

It really can't though. Unless you're going to keep the owners of these corporations held in your country at gunpoint or some shit, which is just the beginning of the headfuck-worthy cavalcade of problems that arise when thinking of how to implement such a system without it all devaluing down to Zimbabwe funny money.

In the 1950's.

We're now a global economy more than we have ever been. Which country will that money go to? Hong Kong? London? Frankfurt? Luxemburg?

The idea that the jews will run away with all the money in Germany is out-dated. On this very forum, in this very thread, Americans have told me how America going bankrupt would end the world. But if all of the wealth transfered to France, for talks sake, what would change? "If France goes bankrupt, it would be the end of the world".

Global economy.

You realize there's more than just money involved with the problems that come from such a policy being instituted right?

 

[Overly Serious]

Make less profit.

This always annoys me when I see the line of thinking "we can't increase minimum wage because companies will charge and more and increase inflation!!". Instead of being a corporate cock-sucker, we could limit the profit that companies could make. Does Amazon need 1 trillion dollars? How about 500 Billion (still an incredible amount of money) and the other 500 billion is spread between the work force?

Well that's being done in the UK at the moment. Power companies are capped on how much they can charge per unit. Given the UK's sudden energy crunch leading to 1000% increase in wholesale energy costs and the UK govts. refusal to budge on how much companies are allowed to charge their customers for it (profit capping, essentially), we've had 10 or so energy companies go bust in the last week. By the end of the year, it's projected we might go from 40 energy companies in the UK down to just 7 very big ones. An increase in monopolization. Due to profit capping like you say.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Why?

Hyper-capitalism will be the death of capitalism, and the death of billions. Capitalism is the greatest invention mankind has ever come up with. But it was never meant to vacuum money from the population to an extent that Bezos and Billy G have. Create wealth, have a rich class, but don't take the fucking piss like they are doing. OR use the money to improve the lives of the working class/everyday man on the street.

Capitalism isn't cronyism. What you are complaining about isn't capitalism it's cronyism.

I'm agaisnt a cap on profits for the same reason I'm agaisnt mandating the vaxx. The goverment should never be in control of what people do. Do you trust the goverment to set a reasonable cap? To stick to that cap? To apply it equally to everyone including the private entities that essentially own them? I don't. Since I don't believe they can do any of that, I'd rather not set up a situation that inevitably leads to outright communism.

Here's the other problem, the system cannot be saved. It will collapse. Prepare for the collapse, stop trying to save the system that is literally crumbling before our eyes. Part of these lockdowns has been kicking the financial collapse we are due down the road with all the influx of money to keep this debt based economy afloat. The solution isn't goverment control it's having better human beings in charge who are actually good people and don't think having 30%+ of a country's economy ties into an industry that doesn't actually provide any material benefit to the majority of the population. That problem doesn't get solved by the goverment dictating how much money someone can make.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It was an example of a city. Pick any built up, major city in America and deny it food for a while. It doesn't matter if 99% of your food is sat in Alabama if it can't get to the metropolitan areas. I am frequently reminded of how vast of a scale America is. If all of the UK food came from Romania and the romanians couldn't ship it to the UK, we would be fucked. As would France (who would intercept food heading for the UK) etc etc.

I get what you're saying but California isn't the only state with agriculture. NYC would be boned, but not as boned as you think because upstate NY and Long Island all have large farms. Southern NJ is mostly farmland.

I think NYC would create modern day warlords fighting over territory. A mini Afghanistan on the Hudson, if you will.