Pedophilia and is it possible to eradicate the problem in our lifetime?

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I would like to get even more autistic than usual and want to discuss about pedophilia problem and worrying apathy toward it.

Because I take great interest in morbid subject like serial killers and crimes, the last few days I've been reading on a massive thread https://kiwifarms.net/threads/milwa...t-judge-arrested-on-child-porn-charges.86800/ and it was very enlightening and also interesting to see the discussion on it. I wanted to comment on it to express the absurdity of the case and suggest a potential solution to stop the wide spread but I thought making a new thread to sum up my thoughts was better because I also want to remark on the topic of pedophilia and why I think it is futile to eradicate the problem.

What's interesting about this Milwaukee judge being convicted for pedo is, I was reminded of John Wayne Gacy case. Like Brett Blomme, Gacy was also in a position of power well-loved by his community. He entered the democratic party politics and managed to become the appointed director of Chicago's annual Polish Constitution Day Parade. I know the title wasn't as important as the judge of children's court, but I'm betting he was aiming for that similar important role. There was even a event similar to Drag Queen Story Hour called "Jolly Joker" Clown Club (I bet children's fear of clown may have originated from). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy I would like you to read the page about him and it is fascinating to see how the mind of psychopath works.

As some of us already have known all these 20th centuries philosophers of critical theory and cultural essays are pedophilia advocates or outright pedophiles themselves. And it's no longer a conspiracy theory that the pedophiles seem to be in high ranking position. These elites in the upper echelon being pedos themselves have been normalising pedophilia for a while but they get complacent too fast, they become overconfident every now and then, do the most retarded shit like Netflix producing Cuties or Microsoft collaborating with Marina Abramovich. Even if Pizzagate may be fake, there's without a doubt something or someone is worth investigating include Abramovich herself. And general populace as apathetic as they are, they still draw the line at child sexualisation and exploitation. These elites realising their massive fuckup directs the corporate media to distract the mass with some bullshit stories that shouldn't be big deal and drag them for month like making social pariah out of someone convenient like boomers that get tricked by Feds to do illegal activities such as storming the capital building. I can at least remember 4 or 5 bullshit stories being carefully constructed to demonise the certain set of group of people last 4 years.

I want to clarify the definition of pedophilia referencing few people that spoke about this. It is not just limited to having a sexual preference towards underdeveloped body, rather it is more about having fantasy of having control over weak, vulnerable person smaller than the perpetrator which @Secret Asshole explained in detail. This is why being a pedophile means having a symptom of psychopath and when you see them in social media uncaught, they usually outright express their fetish gleefully without any shame knowing they will not get repercussion. When LGBT got widely accepted in the west, I bet the pedos were over the moon with this news knowing they are the next alphabet in line to be tolerated. Predictably enough, you see how fast progressives push for the next degeneracy. Up to now, we had drag queen story time hour and a trans kid strip dancing last 2 years unsurprisingly praised by corporate media to be "progressive". I find both of these activities that enable pedos to control over minors by dressing it up with pretty words like promoting education, acceptance and diversity. There should have been enough common sense to put the foot down and say no but you know how it is. I'm going to try find all the posts that inspired me to make this thread, I was going to quote them but I thought it was going to get messy in a wall of text.

The current problem of pedophilia is not just the pedophiles themselves but it's the way they conduct, like making a tight-knit group organising child trafficking, trading child porn using the dark web, etc and mocking the general populace with blatant flaunting of their degeneracy with symbols and whatnot because they know they can get away with it. While we cannot completely eradicate the problem, I think we can drastically reduce the number. I think we need to keep a record of people that announced themselves pedo advocates and people that approved Cuties to be made and treat them like second class citizens, especially ones that advertise their degeneracy like how MSM spurs the viewers to treat anti-vaxxers like trash. Ones that already are offender, we basically treat them like subhumans. So by treating pedos like second class citizens or even just third-rate subhumans, that would encourage them to not brag about them being a pedo like those San Francisco gay choir or James Gunn making pedo jokes every chance he gets. And democratic party should perhaps next time vet the individual carefully before electing him into important positions in the future?

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Pedophilia is merely a symptom of a bigger problem. corporate media and the ones, namely the Big tech that keep pushing right stories to the public consciousness. They both have to be done away with to even tackle this pedophilia problem. The reason why pedophiles these days are so blatantly proud to show they are into children is that there seem to be considerable amount of advocates in the high places that manipulate the media to their favour, thus they don't face the proper repercussion at all. Even if they get caught, mainstream media do not do these pedos the same courtesy they did to incels, antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists or Qanon boomers at the insurrection. Look at how people in general look at scapegoats corporate media wagged their finger at with indignation, with disdain and treating them with sheer hostility. So pedophilia problem can only be tackled once we do something about corporate media and Big Tech and therein lies the problem, we know GOP will do jackshit about them. Conservative pundits are mostly made up of wet blankets that only make loud noises, actually not really do anything meaningful. If the society could treat pedos like subhumans, while it will not eradicate the problem, it will reduce the number to a considerable amount. In the end, I don't think pedophiles that brag in social media will go away until more people start caring about this. If it was a ideal world, I would have wanted people that pushed drag queen story time hour investigated. I find it absolutely unfortunate that Brett Blomme case got buried very fast in the mainstream media when it could have made more publicity and investigate his social circle further with fine brush comb but it's obvious that isn't going to happen.

Really looking forward to this one being ignored by the mainstream media because we can’t have normies waking up to the rampant pedophilia within the LGBT that libs help cover up.
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No. People want to shag kids and have shagged kids for 1000's of years. It's a human condition, for some reason, to want to bone 12 year olds, and history is full of examples.

We can either legalise it, and accept it (no) or make a kid fucking simulator using VR and a fleshlight. Anything short of those two will push it in to the fringes and dark web, where people really do get hurt.
 
As an aside, it would help to have a working definition of what we consider a pedo as well.

Clearly, when we are dealing with prepubescent children or artworks thereof it's pretty clear cut what exactly as going on. However as many religious authorities trying to evade lawsuits, MAPs and many Americans when talking about the age of consent in other countries (Particularly Europe) often obfuscate the issue.

In France the age of consent is 15. Now I think this is far too low myself, but it's still higher than several other EU member states and it's something the British often squeal about with their higher age of consent at 16. This in turn is something Americans scream about when their ages of consent are found between 18-21....You can see the pattern and problem.

I think to avoid handing pedos something to distract people from the direct issue at hand we need to actually get more rigid on this. Psychiatry has working definitions but these definitions aren't used by any legal system I'm aware of and with how low they are I wouldn't want them to be used either.

Until the western world can actually decide what legally should be counted as pedo activity it's going to be harder to slap it down. Activists aren't all operating from the same legal code or expectation anymore when they're campaigning for change; increasingly often in foreign territories where opponents of these pedo campaigners ignorant of the way the system works often just end up looking incompetent or like moral hysterics rather than rightfully concerned people.
 
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We should have more strict punishments to dissuade them from offending (life in prison for even attempting), but also try to develop real, safe treatment for those who turn themselves in. If they're too scared to seek help they may just fester until inevitably offending.

Also, any and all attempts at normalizing it must be criminalized. That's seemingly becoming more tolerated, no surprise with this woke shit going on.

But to answer the question, eradication is impossible. The goal should be protecting as many potential victims as possible instead.
 
No. People want to shag kids and have shagged kids for 1000's of years. It's a human condition, for some reason, to want to bone 12 year olds, and history is full of examples.
Humans, like all mammals to a greater or lesser degree, are hard-wired to seek out youth and vitality in a sexually mature mate, as that increases the chance of offspring surviving. Paedophiles have some of their wires crossed for whatever reason, meaning they interpret pre-pubescent behaviours as signs of sexual maturity (something they constantly repeat is that the child was obviously coming on to them)

However, there's a separate issue at play as well: Human sexual maturity occurs between the ages of 9 and 15, much like the other great apes, so it wouldn't be unknown for a 12 year-old to be sexually mature, even if he or she was still mentally immature.

When we were just dumb, vaguely neurotic apes, sexual maturity would have been the only thing that mattered. A young, newly sexually active female is the most desirable to a male, because she can make more strong, robust babies that are more likely to survive and pass on their genes.

This is the position self-defined "ephebophiles" try to argue from, where they consider only physical development when they make their claims that it's actually okay for 50 year-old men to fuck young teens. In the most reductionist sense they kind of have a point, but they're ignoring the fact that young teenagers aren't mentally capable of taking on the responsibilities of sexual activity and its inevitable outcomes. Age of consent laws came about to protect teenagers from both their own poor judgement and lack of understanding of those consequences, but also the potential for abuse and manipulation by adults who only care about letting their instincts dictate their behaviours.

So to sum up: some of it is because of people who have their brains wired wrong, some of it is because of the conflict between instinctive behaviours and social rules that developed based on a greater understanding of mental maturity as separate from sexual maturity. The former is a product of a deformed mind; the latter is a social issue that can probably be mitigated with better education and a little applied violence.
 
Was expected Jacob to appear but thank god he's not there. Praise the Jesus H. Christ.

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It's hardly possible for pedos to dissapear completely. In current time and age we live in they got a lot of vocal freedom, at least in USA and some European countries. There always will be these fuckers who want to diddle minors no matter the social non-acceptance or taboos that are were pointed out long before the birth of almost everyone on this site.

The only way to deal with that is killing the bastards. Unfortunately we will never get such a chance because their lives are protected by federal laws as well.
 
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In a more perfect world we'd be able to somehow nip pedophilia "in the bud" as they say so pedophiles who are otherwise productive members of society could be "saved," especially if they're a pedo who was also molested as a child.

But I don't think that's possible. There's plenty of CSA victims who don't become pedophiles or deviants as adults but we still don't know what causes them to come out "normal" while others become serial rapists, just like we still don't know the root cause of criminality and serial killing and so on. People will be abused and neglected as children and go on to become great parents, while someone else will suffer the same victimization and just continue the cycle. We still don't know the exact cause of this.

And then you also have deviants who think there's nothing wrong with their deviancy and actively want it normalized. They don't want actual help because they don't think there's a problem.
 
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Most cases of pedophilia happen because the parents are too trusting of the schools/churches/gay uncles/etc. If the world was more bigoted and paranoid, most cases of pedophilia couldn't happen. There would still be those kidnappy van types, but they are in the minority. Pedophiles create more pedophiles so stopping pedophilia from happening stops it from reproducing.
 
No. People want to shag kids and have shagged kids for 1000's of years. It's a human condition, for some reason, to want to bone 12 year olds, and history is full of examples.

We can either legalise it, and accept it (no) or make a kid fucking simulator using VR and a fleshlight. Anything short of those two will push it in to the fringes and dark web, where people really do get hurt.
I agree, it's a part of the human condition, unfortunately.
 
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Since murder is just unlawfully taking someone's life, it could be by just not making it illegal.
Murder, defined by common law, is the willful termination of life with intent. Nothing to do with whether or not it's legal
 
You have as much shot at eradicating violence, dishonesty, murder, theft, or rape in our lifetime.

These things have all happened since forever- That doesn't mean they're A-ok, and we shouldn't keep trying to reduce how much they happen (and most stats say that these crimes have already been on a trend of gradually reducing, for centuries). But expecting them to end entirely, even in one or two centuries, is just fantasy.

These things have happened in every single human culture, every moral, religious, legal or political system, in every era, forever. They're not going to vanish in a few decades.
 
It certainly won't under the current systems in the west, but even if let's say that things change you'll still never be able to completely eradicate it.
 
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If the society could treat pedos like subhumans, while it will not eradicate the problem, it will reduce the number to a considerable amount.

Yeah good luck achieving that without media control, without having elites on your side, without having corporate market control, without have internet control of censorship.
 
pedophiles have existed since the beggining of the human race. back during the christ days you had 15 year olds marry 30 year olds.
muhammad married a 12 year old or some shit.
do i think pedophiles are disgusting fucks despite that?
yes i do.
the question is, how do we identify pedos and make sure to stop disasters before they happen.
 
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