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Question: If people are already vaxxed, can the vaxxed people take iverticimin so that they won't die from the disease?

I am just saying that's all.
From anecdotal evidence I've read here and there, Ivermectin and other things can help with vax injury long after vax. And definitely will still help with COVID provided they are taken early in infection.

exactly, most people here don't know history, especially post-ww2 history despite it being the coolest, but the holocaust narrative and civil rights played out similar to this, very quickly people who when polled where 99% aganist X suddenly starting believing X because the journalists, and entertainers, and politicans all started telling them they should. and sure there was a significant percentage that didn't agree and suffered tons of consequences, they have movies now gloating about the FBI and Military causing the non-believers tons of trouble for not believing in X. Even worse, the next generation, they too believed X, maybe not Y but 99.9% believed X. so even when someone did go Rambo, it didn't light the spark that saved the west, instead it was just a blimp on a huge trajectory of people that accepted X.

Its a big reason why they're targeting the under 12 now, its one thing trying to force an adult, they can fight back. no 11 year old has a real ability to go against their parents and authorities, even if their parents agree with them some teach won't and will force her to get X.

now think about this, what things were you taught in elementary school? now imagine if some wingnut started saying "thats not true see i have proof on my fringe website" for most of the population its quite the reach. getting someone to deny the holocaust is one thing, they don't start teaching that until middle-high school, but getting someone to deny the world is round thats something else entirely.

and that goes with the vaccine too. right now 80% agree with the vaxxohoax, and thats before the sunk cost that will happen when we start hitting kids with it, imagine decades from now how many people will disagree with the vaxxohoax especially when its required to go to school or be employed for a job.

Honestly the only real problem with the vax that i see is the forced trip to the pharmacy/doctors twice a year, but i think thats only because i know enough conservatives that haven't gone to the doctor/dentist since they were teenagers. i'm sure most people would be fine with having the vax be part of their twice a year schedule with physicals and teeth cleanings.

I disagree with you, because I know some normies who became radicalized in the last year. NPC are going to npc, no question. But even among the normies there are plenty of people who are able to think for themselves.
 
Its a big reason why they're targeting the under 12 now, its one thing trying to force an adult, they can fight back. no 11 year old has a real ability to go against their parents and authorities, even if their parents agree with them some teach won't and will force her to get X.

now think about this, what things were you taught in elementary school? now imagine if some wingnut started saying "thats not true see i have proof on my fringe website" for most of the population its quite the reach. getting someone to deny the holocaust is one thing, they don't start teaching that until middle-high school, but getting someone to deny the world is round thats something else entirely.
And it helped homeschooling to be more popular.

Btw, some mentionned the left praised corona-chan like a religion and it is from what I saw on that article.

October 4, 2021

COVID has Replaced Climate Change as the Religion of the Left​

By Brian C. Joondeph

Religion is a belief system based on a combination of logic and faith, mostly beyond the realm of what can be proven scientifically. A dictionary definition is, “Religion is belief in a god or gods and the activities that are connected with this belief, such as praying or worshipping in a building such as a church or temple.”
Or in simpler terms, religion can create order and meaning in a random and chaotic world. Religion is also strongly held and deeply personal, not something tossed aside based on the words of a government, politician, or celebrity.
For many, politics has become religion, and as a centuries-old etiquette rule advises, “Never discuss politics or religion in polite company.” Unfortunately, today, science has now become political and entered the realm of religion.

For decades, communism was the primary religion of the left. The fall of the Soviet Union and socioeconomic failures of Cuba, Venezuela, and other communist dictatorships steered the left toward a new god, mother earth or simply the environment. This religion morphed from global cooling in the 1970s to global warming a decade later, now to climate change or extreme weather -- normal cyclic events that have been a part of life on Planet Earth since long before humans existed.

While climate change has been the excuse for massive tax and spend schemes of wealth redistribution and top-down population control, the movement was stalling as the fear mongering became less credible to much of the population. Time for replacing an environmental god with a deadly virus, whose treatment and control may achieve what global warming and climate change could not. The left treats both climate and COVID with the religious fervor of jihad.
Religion has 7 basic elements. How are the religions of climate and COVID similar?
Beliefs – the planet and civilization will be destroyed due to man-made global warming or an man-made (increasingly likely) virus. The left believes this with absolute certainty. Just speak with your liberal friends or listen to cable news for confirmation. Immediate and severe measures are necessary, or we are facing an extinction event, despite ample evidence to the contrary.

Religious organization – both climate and COVID are organized around fear, large powerful government organizations and the media pushing and amplifying such fear, proposing new bureaucracies, or empowering existing ones to make totalitarian decisions confiscating both wealth and freedom.
Emotions – fear is the primary emotion for both belief systems. For climate it is fear of starvation and an end to normal life. For COVID it’s fear of death from a virus with a greater than 99 percent survival rate. Emotional images are used, from a polar bear floating on an ice cap to a crowded emergency room or ICU, even if the photos are staged or have little to do with the issue at hand.

Sacred objects – the climate movement has windmills, solar panels, and electric vehicles as their sacred objects with no acknowledgement that their religious icons are currently doing little to solve the supposed problem they are meant to fix. In COVID, the sacred objects are the almighty face mask, largely symbolic and previously acknowledged to be useless for a respiratory virus by Dr Fauci and others. The vaccine syringe is another sacred object, worshipped by late night political cranks like Stephen Colbert performing an embarrassing and insipid “vaccine dance” featuring dancing syringes. As if Colbert’s foolishness will change the minds of the vaccine hesitant.
 
Got into an argument with family today over the vaccine. Pointed out that the average survival rate was 99.76%, and got the reply 'but what if you're one of the .24%?!'.

I'm really fucking tired of this. I've gotten to the point where I'm developing a positively Pavlovian hate-response to nonsense like this. It utterly burns me to my core. I am so fucking sick and fed up of dealing with this propaganda. When the fuck did rational, sensible people become this insane? It's really easy to laugh and mock Branch Covidians who wear three masks and spent a year and a half cowering in their hovels to try and escape a common cold. It's another thing entirely to watch family members who used to pride themselves on critical thinking skills and evidence-based deductions blindly cite media statistics without the slightest hesitation and get close to tears trying to convince you to ignore the evidence and just get the jab because muh gub'mint asked us to.

This is a country where the vaccine isn't even fucking mandatory. What the fuck is wrong with people?

I'm at the point where even if I knew for a fact that this virus was in the 25-35% lethality range for all ages, I'd still hesitate to take this jab simply because of how crazy people are getting over it. I have never felt so alienated from other human beings over something before.
Join the club brother. :(
 
Welp. Looks like it was exactly as I suspected. The vaccine can trigger autoimmunity. This doctor observed that after the second shot, the innate immune system was up and the adaptive immune system was down. That's the exact opposite of what you want after a vaccine, which is to stimulate adaptive immune system response against a pathogen.


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Man, I'm so glad KF allows for large video uploads. Think of all the shit they're memory-holing even now.
VEI. Anecdotally I'm hearing lots of stories about some of the vaccinated crashing when infected with Covid, as in feeling a little rough one day and dying on a ventilator the next. This is not normal and not the expected progression of Delta Covid in the unvaccinated.

Of course this is only one example but we'll know for sure in the coming months and years. Big spikes in cancer deaths, terrible mortality rates from the seasonal flu, circulating respiratory viruses that are normally just passing nuisances landing people in hospital. Mammals absolutely prioritise long term adaptive immunity, it's literally all that matters when it comes to fighting off whatever endemic bug we encounter day to day.

If the theory that they want to get us hooked on the boosters to stay alive is correct destroying our adaptive immune systems would do it. We'd all become literal AIDS patients dependent on our shots and pills, including our children.

I've always thought that the vaccines are inducing a response more akin to Heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, that our immune system treats the circulating spike as a toxin rather than a pathogen, which would explain the crashing antibody titres and the lack of B-cell recall. Good news is that most will recover from it as long as they aren't exposed to more spike when they're susceptible, but Covid is endemic and we're about to give everyone a booster.
 
VEI. Anecdotally I'm hearing lots of stories about some of the vaccinated crashing when infected with Covid, as in feeling a little rough one day and dying on a ventilator the next. This is not normal and not the expected progression of Delta Covid in the unvaccinated.

Of course this is only one example but we'll know for sure in the coming months and years. Big spikes in cancer deaths, terrible mortality rates from the seasonal flu, circulating respiratory viruses that are normally just passing nuisances landing people in hospital. Mammals absolutely prioritise long term adaptive immunity, it's literally all that matters when it comes to fighting off whatever endemic bug we encounter day to day.

If the theory that they want to get us hooked on the boosters to stay alive is correct destroying our adaptive immune systems would do it. We'd all become literal AIDS patients dependent on our shots and pills, including our children.

I've always thought that the vaccines are inducing a response more akin to Heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, that our immune system treats the circulating spike as a toxin rather than a pathogen, which would explain the crashing antibody titres and the lack of B-cell recall. Good news is that most will recover from it as long as they aren't exposed to more spike when they're susceptible, but Covid is endemic and we're about to give everyone a booster.
You wanna see something really creepy?



Yeah. Shit's fucked.
 
I was listening to AM radio, and they're starting advertising for people to take the flu shot. I wonder what kind of reaction would occur for somebody who got the COVID "vaccines" takes the flu vaccine too. If what our nigga Todger is saying is correct, that this mRNA serum is basically giving people AIDs, I imagine that it won't be good. Especially for those who didn't take the mRNA serum, because we will be the ones blamed for those people getting sick and dying.
 
I was listening to AM radio, and they're starting advertising for people to take the flu shot.
You mean after an entire flu season where they said the flu "dissapeared" thanks to masking being counted as COVID, they want people to get a flu shot? Good luck with that, considering people barely got that already. What a waste of advertising dollars, I want to meet the marketing person who signed off on this.
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You wanna see something really creepy?



Yeah. Shit's fucked.
You know the crazy thing? There are medical practitioners in Australia who are arguing that no one should receive a medical exemption from the vaccines, not a single person. Previous Guillain Barre? Fuck you take the jab. High risk of clotting or hemorrhagic disease? Fuck you take the jab. Likely severe allergic response and anaphylaxis? Fuck you take the jab. These niggers are religious nut jobs not doctors and they control our lives now.

I was listening to AM radio, and they're starting advertising for people to take the flu shot. I wonder what kind of reaction would occur for somebody who got the COVID "vaccines" takes the flu vaccine too. If what our nigga Todger is saying is correct, that this mRNA serum is basically giving people AIDs, I imagine that it won't be good. Especially for those who didn't take the mRNA serum, because we will be the ones blamed for those people getting sick and dying.
First off don't listen to AM radio, if it's anything like here it's wall to wall boomers complaining that they aren't locking children up longer to protect their fat diabetic arses. Second the flu vaccine is an inactivated vaccine and is harmless unless you have an egg allergy. Useless but harmless.

Speaking of which the Australian government has announced that Chinamen can travel to Australia if they can prove they've been 'vaccinated' with the Chink vaccines.


The Chinese vaccine is also an inactivated vaccine, harmless but completely useless at providing any immunity to Covid. Why can't I get jabbed with Sinovac? Oh that's right I'm not a Chinese student or tourist I'm just a fucking citizen.
 
Curious how many people will flee Australia once the border opens up. Could very likely be tens of thousands.
We need to apply for a travel exemption unless we've been fully vaxxed. To get a travel exemption you need to prove some kind of urgent reason to leave the country, e.g. an overseas family member suffering a severe illness, or else be rich and connected, a sports ball player or a celebrity (then you'll get one automatically).

It's very fucking hard to get one but if they do magnanimously agree to let you exercise a basic human right that's great if you plan on never coming back. However if you want to come back into the country you best be prepared to get the jab. If you don't good luck finding an airline that will carry you, Qantas has announced only vaccinated travelers will be allowed to fly with them and there's not many other options. If by some miracle you can book a ticket be prepared to experience the joys of hotel quarantine for 2 or 3 weeks at your own expense.

Looking to the future our government is building a series of quarantine facilities in all the states to handle plague rats, so we get to sit out our quarantine in actual prisons. Of course the tiny number of returning travelers who aren't vaxxed doesn't really justify a national system of quarantine facilities that can house thousands of people at a time, but um I'm sure they'll find other uses for them.

Yes I fucking hate living here.
 
Just checked Ben Garrison's twitter to see if he's ok, responses to his comics are "lolhorsemedicine" and "lolhermaincain", are you sure these are real people?
 
I'm just going to post these here. It's depressing to the extent they've lied to us, they're fucking evil cunts


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The slides are an explanation of US government Medicare CMS data. It's the absolute gold standard in real time data analysis of vaccine efficacy.

The data is relevant to the over 65 demographic, the people who are at risk of severe disease, hospitalisation and death. You know the people who are actually at risk from Covid

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We all clear now? The vaccines are useless after 6 months (confirmed).

Prior infection and recovery from Covid provides major protection and sterilising immunity.

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No the age you get the jab does not effect the vaccines efficacy, they're shit whether you're a boomer or a teenager

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Moderna offers slightly better protection 4 months after the jabs but they're all shit within 6 months

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60% of all hospitalisations are vaccinated. Shocker I know but the pandemic of the unvaccinated is another fucking lie

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The vaccines offer 41% protection against infection and 62% protection against hospitalisation. Impressive? No. This is worse than the flu vaccine and disappears completely after 6 months

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Yes the vaccines are even worse than the most anti vaxxer Trump supporting wing nat farmer could have imagined.

So we've spent countless billions, murdered children with myocraditis and clotting, shut down our economies, thrown people out of work, many of whom have actual immunity from Covid and risked their lives looking after the sick for THIS?

Are you fucking kidding me. Fuck this shit.
 
You know the crazy thing? There are medical practitioners in Australia who are arguing that no one should receive a medical exemption from the vaccines, not a single person. Previous Guillain Barre? Fuck you take the jab. High risk of clotting or hemorrhagic disease? Fuck you take the jab. Likely severe allergic response and anaphylaxis? Fuck you take the jab. These niggers are religious nut jobs not doctors and they control our lives now.
Let's see if these so-called medical practitioners will sing the same song if we grab them and twist their arms to accept a dose of "pzifer-chan".
>once the border opens up
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I think there might be some Aussie who'll ready to cross the "Great Barrier Reef curtain" illegally.
 
Just checked Ben Garrison's twitter to see if he's ok, responses to his comics are "lolhorsemedicine" and "lolhermaincain", are you sure these are real people?
Why are they even latching on to Herman Cain? He died before the vaccines were made, how's he relevant?

Unless it's a veiled attempt to piss on the grave of a black conservative, I don't see the connection.
 
Irresponsible, crazy Sweden who refused to do lockdowns. Crazy bastards, bet they regret that now.
I mean, I still think it was the wrong decision with the information available at the time. Sweden just lucked out when it became apparent that the disease was nowhere near as bad as those of us who were paying attention early on feared.

Good information though and you're absolutely right as far as I can tell. Never thought I'd see the day when the US, Canada, Australia all would be more cucked than Sweden.
 
I mean, I still think it was the wrong decision with the information available at the time. Sweden just lucked out when it became apparent that the disease was nowhere near as bad as those of us who were paying attention early on feared.

Good information though and you're absolutely right as far as I can tell. Never thought I'd see the day when the US, Canada, Australia all would be more cucked than Sweden.
You can read about that whole shit show here if you want

TLDR Sweden based it's pandemic modeling on the Imperial College data set. Yes that's correct they used the ZOMG! Ferguson model to govern their response and they still didn't lockdown.

Why? Because unlike Ferguson their public health experts aren't scumbag liars who make things up for fame and clout.

If memory serves the Swedes were projecting 20,000 deaths in the first year if everything went perfect for them and 30K if it didn't. They made the perfectly rational choice that in a nation of their size the economic and co-related health effects of lockdowns would kill far more than that and further only through natural herd immunity could they put the pandemic behind them. In comparison Ferguson was claiming they'd suffer 50,000 deaths if they did a hard lockdown and 100,000 if they didn't. The pro-lockdown retards were also claiming that natural herd immunity was impossible because Covid was some kind of incurable airborne AIDS (too be fair Todger is still claiming that).

They've admitted they did a terrible job at protecting their nursing home facilities but even so they suffered a total of 13,000 deaths from Covid in 2020. Since then the mortality rate has been negligible and they're now back to living completely normal lives.

It says something about how bat shit insane the world has gotten that Sweden, fucking Sweden, is just about the most based country on the planet.
 
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