Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

Okeefe knocking it out of the park

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"Our hospitals are overloaded. The obvious solution is to fire hospital staff who won't get the vax!"
It's cute how you claim to be a biologist but get your anti-vax talking points from boomer Facebook memes. I am in a good mood tonight, so I will educate you so you'll have something else to google so you can sound smarter next time like usual: I know this is going to be shocking to you since you don't understand science very well, but the vaccine helps prevent the spread of the virus, hence why hospitals want their staff to get vaccinated. Again, I know this is going to overwhelm your noggin, but that's how it works.
 
“High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation. The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.”
The report follows a confidential briefing that the CDC gave to Congress Thursday in which Walensky noted the number of cases are higher than they were at this point in the summer last year and hospitalizations are at the same level — although a vaccine was not available then. That could be driven in part by more public gatherings this year like the one in Massachusetts. The documents shared at the confidential congressional briefing also show that vaccine efficacy has taken a hit from delta. The CDC estimates efficacy may be 75 to 85 percent against the new variant rather than 94 percent effective or more against the original COVID-19 strain. There are 35,000 symptomatic breakthrough cases each week, the presentation shows. Up to 15 percent of deaths in May were among vaccinated people, the presentation shows. That contrasts with previous public CDC data showing deaths occur in a tiny number of vaccinated people, just 0.0005 percent.
What struck me the most in looking around for info on this is that I haven't heard much about this congressional briefing. I'm curious if anyone can confirm the 15% figure, because that is far, far higher than public CDC numbers claim.
 
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Okeefe knocking it out of the park

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I mean, of course your natural anti-bodies are "better" than a vaccine. For the simple reason that your body had way, way more of the active virus destroying the body and potentially killing the host, instead of just inactivated parts of the virus to stimulate a response. But I fail to see the point of that. Get sick and risk dying or having a hell week so I can naturally get inmunity, or get the vax, and have a greatly decreased chance to develop serious symptoms? Hmm..
 
Not necessarily since the spikes the therapy is meant to produce are a major clot risk, but having foreign matter injected into your bloodstream by a bad nurse (IM injections in men can often become IV due to bad needle placement, since men have a higher concentration of blood vessels in the muscles) is something that can cause blood clots as well as pain.

It's theorized that the higher risk for heart problems in the jab for men is due to the higher risk for the gene therapy to enter the blood vessels and heart and cause spike expression (and thus immune response) against cardiovascular tissue.
My father already has a partial arterie blockage, God save him. :'(
 
What in the hell?

What struck me the most in looking around for info on this is that I haven't heard much about this congressional briefing.
Also this part is a head scratcher:
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If we're talking about vaccinated people dying from the virus at a higher percent than the CDC public data shows, wouldn't the idea that those vaccinated dead were the most vulnerable to the virus just prove that the vaccine doesn't work as it should? But there's more here than that.
After everything else we've learned about the vax, now we learn that the "DO IT TO PROTECT YOUR LOVED ONES" argument--which was dumb from the start--isn't even true. Not only do the vaccinated die more from the virus than the CDC publicly let on but it doesn't even prevent spread of the virus. Wonderful.

EDIT: I updated the OP and MEGA for this one, too. Thanks, Shaka
 
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He also makes up shit, splices interviews together and takes shit way out of context. He's like Michael Moore but right-wingers are retarded enough to actually take him seriously
Are the courts right-wing? They are allowing the court case against CNN to procced. They(CNN) used the exact same line you did in their motion to dismiss as well.
 
Are the courts right-wing? They are allowing the court case against CNN to procced. They(CNN) used the exact same line you did in their motion to dismiss as well.
Just because they're not dismissing it doesn't mean the case has merit. CNN can point out how they edited their footage and win the case.

It's funny how much a vaccine is making so many right-winger tardrage, though.
 
Just because they're not dismissing it doesn't mean the case has merit. CNN can point out how they edited their footage and win the case.

It's funny how much a vaccine is making so many right-winger tardrage, though.
CNN has a history of losing court cases over their own lying, not the other way around. Remember when Lin Wood made CNN his bitch in court? That's right, that same Lin Wood.

Don't know why you think those losers are going to win in court against Project Veritas when everyone else who tried it failed miserably.
 
CNN has a history of losing court cases over their own lying, not the other way around. Remember when Lin Wood made CNN his bitch in court? That's right, that same Lin Wood.

Don't know why you think those losers are going to win in court against Project Veritas when everyone else who tried it failed miserably.
CNN lost the one case, which they deserved to lose.

Veritas has lost in court before. An easy example, which cost O'Keefe $100k: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/08/james-o-keefe-settlement-acorn

Most people don't bother to sue them because it's hard to win a libel case, especially against an organization that no reasonable person would take seriously. Then again, anti-vaxers are not reasonable so of course you guys take their claims seriously. You still Trust The Plan and expect Trump back any day now, though, so I should expect you to take Veritas seriously.
 
Wrong. Those were all personal lawsuits against O'Keefe, not Project Veritas itself. Maybe you should stop including CNN itself and other lying rags like The Guardian in your research.
He's the guy who owns Veritas and he did that "expose" before Veritas existed, so Veritas couldn't be sued. Nice technicality, though. I know you being wrong upsets you so much, but take the L here, son. I know you trust more reliable news sources, like random anonymous posts on 4chan for your news source, but you should've learned your lesson by now since you lost your life savings in the DMS scam. I could name off a few more cases of Veritas being retarded, but I'd be wasting my time since your schizophrenia has destroyed what critical thinking skills you ever had.

It's cute how you believe everything you read on the internet like a boomer, though.
 
He's the guy who owns Veritas and he did that "expose" before Veritas existed, so Veritas couldn't be sued. Nice technicality, though. I know you being wrong upsets you so much, but take the L here, son. I know you trust more reliable news sources, like random anonymous posts on 4chan for your news source, but you should've learned your lesson by now since you lost your life savings in the DMS scam. I could name off a few more cases of Veritas being retarded, but I'd be wasting my time since your schizophrenia has destroyed what critical thinking skills you ever had.

It's cute how you believe everything you read on the internet like a boomer, though.
Technicality schmechnicality, the fact still stands. Project Veritas has never lost a lawsuit.

In fact, CNN lost more lawsuits than Project Veritas. Lawsuits about the same thing you're alleging, which is directly lying to their audience. What makes you think things will be different this time?
 
Can you even really call the current jab a vaccine?

By definition doesn't a vaccine provide you protection from a disease? The Covid jab doesn't stop you from catching Covid nor will it stop you from transmitting it, it just lessens the symptoms.

I'd really rather see it labeled as a per-treatment since IMHO all the jab will do it reduces the symptoms and timeline of your infection. Why not spend all these funds on expanding the ICU's and hospitals for the future outbreaks?

Covid is never going away, Covid Zero is and was always a pipe dream, and we need to start accepting this fact and dealing with the yearly spikes in infections. Its possible in a decade or so that Covid will be so mild as to just be another SARS or Flu but for the foreseeable future its here to stay no matter what the WHO, the CIDC or the guberment says.
Pretty sure Mirriam Webster changed the definition of vaccine to accommodate this. He who controls the speech, so controls the narrative, so controls the thought.
 
Technicality schmechnicality, the fact still stands. Project Veritas has never lost a lawsuit.
They would've lost had they existed at the time. They have had members get charged with other crimes. They even once tried to have someone lie to defend that pedo senate candidate from Alabama a few years ago. I thought you QAnoners hated pedophiles?

In fact, CNN lost more lawsuits than Project Veritas. Lawsuits about the same thing you're alleging, which is directly lying to their audience. What makes you think things will be different this time?
Well, for one thing CNN has been around a lot longer than Veritas. And like I said, it's hard to win a libel case because Veritas can just say they are "entertainment" and thus "no reasonable person" would take them seriously, just like the news channel you and your fellow boomers watch did (Fox).

Then again, you were gullible enough to believe the dead man's switch, QAnon, and that Trump would win those election lawsuits. BTW, when is he coming back?
 
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