Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Add "social contract" to that list. Anyone claiming you must get vaxxed to uphold the social contract never considered how contracts actually work. You cannot enforce a contract on someone who never agreed to it or where the conditions of the contract can vary depending on the needs of the politician. Of course, you can never enforce a social contract on those people because they realise it's a bullshit term to begin with.
Mostly people mean it to say something like for the sake of the common good, or common weal, and in general that's a fine enough principle. They've switched to using "social contract" because they've heard bullshit youtube sophists using it and they want to appear similarly sophisticated.

The problem is people use an argument which equates a specific course of action / policy with the common good or the social contract, so that opponents to the policy / candidate / whatever are now against the common good. You now have to demonstrate not only that your position is reasonable, but also that it isn't hateful or inhumane (according to their standards), and that it does not destroy society or break the 'social contract.'
 
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Based on someone else's comment on it here and personal info, sounds like "dec 8th" or sooner, Biden will put in the EO for vax mandates, and will have it set to be enforced in late Jan/ sometime Feb., so that we have our "last chance to get both shots".

Just remember who stood by you and who didn't. Being civil with our enemies is how we got here, learn from you're mistake.
NGL, i was told from fringe covid nuts that the zombie apocolpyse would be happening this month, so the government going "let's wait until after the holidays" sounds like an L for the Condors
They are omitting the fact that is was not a vaccine, but instead scraping a (hopefully somewhat less virulent version of) smallpox into an abrasion on your arm. The lower viral load kept the death rate down somewhat, but I don't think it was possible to do with less than a 1 in 500 fatality rate.
they also don't talk about Washington being permantely disfigured from the same procedure, its literally supervillian-esque. Jack had the same plan in Batman. he also made them work christmas and was Biden-esque when he was president, allowing congress to pass much worse acts than the intolerable acts, there's a reason the federalists vanished once he kicked the bucket.
The more I've been exposed to the weird unhinged vaccine propaganda, the more the population control argument makes sense to me.
Again what you're forgetting is that the one group not breeding like rabits are the ones getting the shots. the groups that make up 70% of new births the last 50 years (asians/africans) aren't taking the shots. so unless the vax is legit and to prepare the population for a new plague; it won't help with overpopulation. look at any graph, the white population (AKA vaxxers) keeps declining on a global scale, killing more of them won't fix shit.
 
A vaccine that uses the actual virus like a vaccine actually does.

Problems, from China. And afaik covid 19 still hasn't been sequenced and coronaviruses mutate quite a bit.
The problem is that it will be deemed not enough. I want to have hope in one of these as well, but I already realized that it will be considered illegitimate because, quite literally "its the same as getting sick with no vax, you NEEEEEDD MRNAAAA".

There is no escape with this, they have proved time and time again that complying must be complete or it is non-existent. The only solutions are direct opposition to it or lying and risk federal prison.
 
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I'm still not on this being a "culling" method. We're heading for a population crash in the productive parts of the world. The only places ostensibly not facing a demographic cliff are the middle east and Africa, although there is question to how accurate their censuses are. It does seem reasonable, with the way all treatments of corona have been demonized and prevented, that this is intended to be a "boomer remover". A clean up of the pension lists and the nursing homes. The primary goal, as far as I can see one, is to add to the stranglehold on the populace that the elites have. So far they are succeeding by leaps and bounds. Not only have they got both the bureaucracy and the corporations pressing down on the population but they've also activated the nigger cattle into a wild stampede.

Hell, this whole recent kabuki theater with Facebook is the same thing. "Oh no, look how effective Facebook is at making people do things advertisers, look at how great their mind control is, isn't it terrible!" Meanwhile that entire outage of the Facebook services certainly reminded a lot of people, specifically small businesses, how much they depend on Facebook products. Those of you not aware should know, that Instagram is the primary vehicle of generating traffic to small businesses. What is being asked for anyway? An enforcement agency for the internet. That's been the play this entire last few years.

I have zero respect for the people still terrified of COVID., unless you have some actual complications that will make it dangerous for you. You folk should be concerned about the flu and your diabetes. Go moo elsewhere, humans do not need to hear this.

On the brightside; the actual implementations, messaging, and proposals have been a giant wet fart. It seems like having to get a subscription injection to go outside has woken up some of the nigger cattle. Now they are mere niggers! What an upgrade!

A vaccine that uses the actual virus like a vaccine actually does.

Problems, from China. And afaik covid 19 still hasn't been sequenced and coronaviruses mutate quite a bit.

Novavax actually specifically doesn't. It's a subunit vaccine that grows its constituent parts from moth cells.
NVX-CoV2373 has been described as both a protein subunit vaccine[20][21][22] and a virus-like particle vaccine,[23][24] though the producers call it a "recombinant nanoparticle vaccine".[25]

The vaccine is produced by creating an engineered baculovirus containing a gene for a modified SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The spike protein was modified by incorporating two proline amino acids in order to stabilize the pre-fusion form of the protein; this same 2P modification is being used in several other COVID-19 vaccines.[26] The baculovirus then infects a culture of Sf9 moth cells, which create the spike protein and display it on their cell membranes. The spike proteins are then harvested and assembled onto a synthetic lipid nanoparticle about 50 nanometers across, each displaying up to 14 spike proteins.[20][21][25]

The formulation includes a saponin-based adjuvant.[20][21][25]

That they're not actually using the fucking spike protein is the selling point to me.
Upon a reread, it seems it is still using the spike protein, derp. It's just not making you the factory of them. Which as far as all the available ones in the west are concerned would put them far and away ahead.
 
The problem is that it will be deemed not enough. I want to have hope in one of these as well, but I already realized that it will be considered illegitimate because, quite literally "its the same as getting sick with no vax, you NEEEEEDD MRNAAAA".

There is no escape with this, they have proved time and time again that complying must be complete or it is non-existent. The only solutions are direct opposition to it or lying and risk federal prison.
Do not comply. They CAN fire us all... but it will fuck them horribly.
 
Came across this on Instagram, the comments are full of pure horseshit as expected
 

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I could be wrong, but assuming it is technically within a business's right to deny service based on jab status (like no shirt no shoes), I say let them.

Let them go broke from going woke, file bankruptcy and run away with their tails between their legs because of those sweet sweet Branch Covidian goodboi points. Even the small ones that were lucky to weather the storm of 2020.

The businesses that do not care about jabs will come out the winner in the end, just like most unvaxxed will if something bigger comes along.
A bit behind, thread's been moving and I'm only occasionally keeping tabs (I think the fundamentals we've established in this thread already are holding pretty steady).

Anyway the problem isn't businesses. Fuck the businesses. I've walked out of every single business that attempted to make me put a rag on (admittedly only a few have tried this in my area) and just gone somewhere else, sometimes literally next door. That shit's a joke and retail fronts are mostly for convenience since you can buy stuff online, and I've yet to find a business that sells "real" hard to get industrial shit that cared. You should buy as little junk as possible anyway.

The bigger problem is the public buildings, the government stuff. Courts, tax collectors, libraries, county and state buildings that house the offices you HAVE to go to, schools too, with no alternative unless you can do it online sometimes. I guess hospitals count even if they're mostly privately owned. These are the places that you can't really just fuck off from, and the most enraging thing is that they're PUBLIC for fuck's sake, they belong to the people. Taxes pay for them and their employees.

As an individual you are pretty much fucked into compliance. Where I'm at, the state has banned forced masking (and vax mandates) in public buildings but several counties have made "requirements" (they're not even 'mandates', they're literally called requirements because there's no legal force behind them). What this means is that when you enter a county building you are forced (illegally) to put a mask on. If you do not, the manager-equivalent or security can call the cops on you and you will be forced to leave under (criminal) trespass law.

They don't care that they're literally breaking state law. In fact, the state law was even upheld in a different county after a court battle, but the fucking shitbags in other counties are just like "haha oh well we're other county so it doesn't apply lmao". The cops don't care either. You cannot litigate with a cop. They get called, ask the gestapo manager if they want you off the premises, and kick you out. Your only recourse is to go to a lawyer and start paying, and paying, and paying. Everyone gets paid except you, the lawyers, the cops, the state goldbrickers, and the county itself - which will use your own tax revenue to violate state law and your rights.

Now, based on how the other test case went and how the state executive order is written, you'd eventually win. But how many thousands of dollars later? It would probably cost several thousand just to get it in front of a judge, and who knows how many more before it was resolved. It really sucks and you're fucked as an individual unless you're rich. I even considered taking up a case but I just can't die on this hill, the lolz are too costly. Mostly I'm blackpilled that other people with way more money than I have are just going along with it, and there seems to be no collective action.

This shit is basically the definition of balkanization. One state where the law is enforced differently depending on where you're at.
 
Personally, I hope it will not happen at my company till Novavax is available, but if I will be out of luck I was considering J&J only because there is a high chance a. I have antibodies to adenovirus b. they are cross-reactive with the vector used in J&J and the damage will be reduced to injection of adjuvants.
I just got the email coming down, Nov 29 to be fully jabbed so have to get it two weeks earlier. So now hope waiting for a 2nd generation shot that won't fuck up my body.
 
The problem is people use an argument which equates a specific course of action / policy with the common good or the social contract, so that opponents to the policy / candidate / whatever are now against the common good. You now have to demonstrate not only that your position is reasonable, but also that it isn't hateful or inhumane (according to their standards), and that it does not destroy society or break the 'social contract.'
Why?
Why not just embrace the anti-social, anti-collectivist, anti-hivemind position?
Why not just openly shit on the social contract that was never signed?

I've been taking the train, where masks are required under threat of a fine, to work, but they don't seem to be enforcing it.
Just went through an airport today and didn't get warned about not wearing my mask once I got past security.
 
As an individual you are pretty much fucked into compliance. Where I'm at, the state has banned forced masking (and vax mandates) in public buildings but several counties have made "requirements" (they're not even 'mandates', they're literally called requirements because there's no legal force behind them). What this means is that when you enter a county building you are forced (illegally) to put a mask on. If you do not, the manager-equivalent or security can call the cops on you and you will be forced to leave under (criminal) trespass law.

They don't care that they're literally breaking state law. In fact, the state law was even upheld in a different county after a court battle, but the fucking shitbags in other counties are just like "haha oh well we're other county so it doesn't apply lmao". The cops don't care either. You cannot litigate with a cop. They get called, ask the gestapo manager if they want you off the premises, and kick you out. Your only recourse is to go to a lawyer and start paying, and paying, and paying. Everyone gets paid except you, the lawyers, the cops, the state goldbrickers, and the county itself - which will use your own tax revenue to violate state law and your rights.
Wear a camera and record how you are treated, from when you walk in the door not wearing a mask all the way through to being trespassed. Say in the video before you leave your car the last time you were in that office for anything, so they cant say you were a repeat problem person they had to trespass. Leak video to media, use it in lawsuit. It sucks but you have to trap them violating your rights if you want to have the courts take their power away. Get it in front of everyone's eyes. Nobody can do anything until the outrage is exposed in some way.
 
Lads, anyone know anything about the proteins from the vaxx/whatever else being sexually transmittable? I've had someone tell me that it is, but that sounds like tinfoil bs.

I've convinced my gf to hold off on getting it, but she's getting pressure from her vaxxed dad (who already had covid...), and emotionally manipulated about Christmas.

It's all so tiring.
 
Lads, anyone know anything about the proteins from the vaxx/whatever else being sexually transmittable? I've had someone tell me that it is, but that sounds like tinfoil bs.

I've convinced my gf to hold off on getting it, but she's getting pressure from her vaxxed dad (who already had covid...), and emotionally manipulated about Christmas.

It's all so tiring.
I'm lazy about sources at the moment, but it crosses the blood brain barrier, and it killed a 4 month old infant because it transmitted through the jabbed moms breast milk. If that's confirmed I wouldnt consider sexual transmission tinfoil.
 
I'm lazy about sources at the moment, but it crosses the blood brain barrier, and it killed a 4 month old infant because it transmitted through the jabbed moms breast milk. If that's confirmed I wouldnt consider sexual transmission tinfoil.
I do remember the breast milk thing, although I thought it was just a bad full body rash. Either way, fuck, might have some tough decisions ahead.
 
The problem with this theory is the people that are obstinate in getting the vaxx are most likely the ones obstinate agaisnt the elites in the first place. I'm not sure if anyone who still hasn't gotten the vaxx will be eager or willing to trust the people they believe to be the orchestraters behind this.
I hope you're right, but I think a large proportion of people are more easily manipulated than that. Our elites wouldn't have survived this long if that weren't the case. And I'm not so vain as to think that my stance on vaccines puts me in the company of perfect free thinkers and skeptics. Everyone is vulnerable to propaganda, and paranoia or tribalism can also inform skepticism on this topic.

Besides, most skeptics wouldn't even know who the real elites (a bunch of largely faceless billionaires) are. The people who run the show would swap out their sock puppets for new ones; their useful idiots are disposable once the deed is done, and they would be perfectly comfortable scapegoating someone like Fauci, Kamala, or Nancy Pelosi.

It reminds me of the situation in Renaissance Venice, where the incredibly rich, ostensibly Catholic, bankers wanted to pay the laborers nothing while war profiteering and banking. Jews offered the solution to all these problems, so the rulers invited them into the city. These patrons probably supplied startup capital, and then let the Jews extend usurious payday loans to their workers. The workers were able to survive on lower wages thanks to these lines of credit, and the investors got a very nice return due to high interest rates. Many, many times the common people went after the Jews and expelled them from town, burning their loan records, and venting their anger on the most proximal source of their suffering. Once the dust had settled, the bankers would invite the Jews back into the city once some time had passed. Only a few times were the big families like the Medici actually expelled from the city. Populist uprisings are dangerous, but many competent ruling classes have managed to redirect them to some ultimately inconsequential (even if pernicious) scapegoat.
 
Some news from the 808, Honolulu Mayor Rick Blangiardi, and Governor David Ige have both hinted on lifting some COVID restrictions, but it sounds like pure :optimistic: :optimistic: :optimistic: to me, as I'd expect them to pull an act of Subverting Expectations, as in either making no chances, extending the restrictions even further, or even showing inspiration from the likes of Australia, New Zealand, and Vietnam, by implementing draconian restrictions so harsh that those country's restrictions would look merciful in comparison.
 
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