Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

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  • The US Trucking Crisis of 2021 works fine

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  • The US Transportation Crisis of 2021

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  • The US Supply Chain Crisis of 2021

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  • Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021

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Glad I bought such a big stash of pasta and rice and whanot last year. Thing is, it's just about past its sell by date now. I'll get through it no trouble. They always give the sell by date as earlier than when these dried goods can be eaten by. I ate a year old pack of noodles the other week as proof of concept. Wasn't great. But it filled a hole and didn't make me ill.

I don't know what the answer is really unless you have multi-year long stash and somewhere you can protect it, cook it. I've been through this scenario a million times (in my head) and it's really not so simple. Still, it's better to be prepared and there is a lot you can do. Lots of good advice given in this thread. Don't have much more to add. Maybe, just get in there now before Xmas goes crazy and you won't get a delivery at all. Buy as much as you can eat, a year or two down the line. Don't be worried about pasta being six months out of date. Tinned goods keep for a good while past the date too, but you don't want to push it too far. If nothing else, they make for a handy weapon.

Bought some beers tonight after a little abstinence. Didn't realise how fucking raped the shelves were. Wine too. Fuck me, it's not a good time to be an alky. Missing all kinds of random shit on the shelves. What was there last week is missing this week, vice versa. Same old fuckeries going on with frozen stuff. Chips! Now, they aren't very nice, and they aren't very nutritious, but they fill another one of those holes when you are having a night off from cooking great food. I even prefer the cheaper ones they do because they are thinner and cook a bit easier and crisper in my little oven.

Never mind, I just made a comment to the guy I know behind the counter. He's a gamer. We chat shit about GFX cards and whatnot when no one is looking. I made a sarcy comment, and he corrected me. He told me it's not so much the drivers to deliver the goods, though that is quite a bit of the problem, it's more the fuckers stacking the shelves to get the goods on to the lorry. A bit like what @Sped Xing talked about before if I'm not mistaken: it's not just the guys driving the trucks, it's the guys loading the trucks - if you got no one to load, then...

They had guys to load, but here was the thing, he told me they kept loading the same fucking stuff. And there wasn't enough of them to load all the other stuff. I meant to question him further, but people came in and I had to shoot.

Anyway, the problem is not so much lorry drivers, it's guys loading the vans. They have stuff in the depot/warehouse, but they don't have enough people to load it properly. The ones they do have just keep loading the same stuff for some reason. I'll try to find out why. Maybe it's lower on the shelf. LOL.

If things are this bad now, yeah, they will be worse by Xmas. Don't care personally, I'll get by. Got no kids to nag me for shit. Folks so old they are thankful for what they get. And I got my own Xmas pressy to myelf all worked out and nearly payed for.

Tbh, not really sure what the guy's argument was. It seemed a bit weird to me. Yeah, they got most of the stuff, lorry/van drivers are in short supply but not the bottleneck. But just not enough stuff in the warehouse to distribute it all, and those that are there, just keep sending more of what they got, rather than evening out the distribution of things they don't have.

Fuck it, I'm nearly wankered and it's only.. shit, it's the next day. Ok, I'm fairly wankered. Another post I probably shouldn't post but fuck it. I love you fam.

If anyone can explain this, I'm all ears.
As for loading trucks-- I'm perfectly capable of loading and unloading my own truck, and did so until 2020 when lumpers became mandatory for "safety." Not only did that change unloading times from around 45 minutes to about 3 hours, but it also added a 100 to 200 dollar charge backwards to the company that was selling in the first place, who in turn raised prices to compensate.

So you have more people getting paid more money to do the same job more slowly. It's less efficient all around.

I don't know if this is going on in Britain, but it's fucking obviously raised the cost of food in America.
 
I don't know what the answer is really unless you have multi-year long stash and somewhere you can protect it, cook it.
Three months supply is the most you should really keep on hand. In any survivable disaster scenario, you generally only need to survive the first month to get through the entire thing. Three months gives you a good hedge on that, but if shit goes on longer than those three months, you're probably dead no matter what.

Canned and dries food lasts way longer than the bbe date, which is only how long the manufacturer claims to guarantee the quality of the product. You can keep that shit around for years, but it's usually a good idea to make it part of your regular meal rotation anyway, just so you don't suffer the shock of switching to it. Also keep lots of spices in stock. Survival isn't much good if you resent having to eat the same bland shit every day.
 
The only reason you should be stocking years of canned garbage food is if you're expecting a nuclear winter.

If you're just expecting social upheaval and bad economic times, you should farm, forage, and hunt.

If you're trying to ride out such a disaster in a city, get guns and friends with guns and learn to rob and run protection rackets, or else live under the thumb of those who do. Stocking a year's supply of baked beans in your apartment is just hoarding something to be stolen.
 
I wonder what the time line is for

no food
eat pets
eat people

3 month? 6 month?
3 days.
3 weeks.
3 months.
(In the city). Really the most logical preper move if you live in a city is to find a good friend that doesn't and learn some basic life skill to justify him housing you (and your close family) in some shed.

All this doomer talk makes me glad that my country made sure farming still exists (even though it completely fucked up food prices).
 
I wonder what the time line is for

no food
eat pets
eat people

3 month? 6 month?
UK, EU, AU, USA?
The USA is the biggest exporter of food in the world. Things would have to get really bad for staples to become unavailable on domestic shelves.. But I could see pre-made frozen shit become even harder to get. If you know how to bake and cook you will be fine. If your urbanite scum that cant cook and eats nothing but takeout/restraints then your going to have a hard time.

Me, personally, I'm looking forward to what this is going to do to Black Friday.
If there is some tool or supplies you have been thinking about getting I think you better get it now. Even if nothing happens and its going to be more expensive in the future.

For me, OCD really helps here. For some reason, I always feel the urge to buy things in pairs
I do that with most things consumable. Even car parts. If I need brake pads or an oil filter I will order 2 from RockAuto. Its stuff I will need again eventually and having it on the shelf already saves me from having to wait again or paying 3x as much at the local autozone if I need it quick.
 
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UK, EU, AU, USA?
The USA is the biggest exporter of food in the world. Things would have to get really bad for staples to become unavailable on domestic shelves.. But I could see pre-made frozen shit become even harder to get. If you know how to bake and cook you will be fine. If your urbanite scum that cant cook and eats nothing but takeout/restraints then your going to have a hard time.
There were some minor shortages where I live for a bit but funnily enough the big slabs of meat and packets of mince were 100% fine (stupid microwave only cunts 🙄)
Speaking of takeout, I've always wondered what's going to happen with fast food places like maccas. Will they run out of food?

I wonder what the time line is for

no food
eat pets
eat people

3 month? 6 month?
I'd eat other people before I'd eat my pet.
 
I'm perfectly capable of loading and unloading my own truck, and did so until 2020 when lumpers became mandatory for "safety." Not only did that change unloading times from around 45 minutes to about 3 hours,
Hmm you Implement Just in time inventory management, and then triple the amount of time it takes to unload something.

That doesn't sound like it would cause issues at all.

:thinking:
 
Lebanon hit by electricity outage expected to last several days

Country’s two main power stations stop working due to fuel shortage plunging cities into darkness

Generator operators have balked at paying dollar rates that are now being demanded for the essential fuel. A 10-fold hike in prices since the currency lost parity with the dollar has left many residents unable to pay for even meagre amounts.
 
I wonder what the time line is for

no food
eat pets
eat people

3 month? 6 month?
In the US? Probably never, as shit as the economy is for the US I don't expect the food to disappear, sure some staples will be scarce but the bulk of it will continue on. Meat will start getting very expensive. There is just so much farmland in the US that it will never be an issue, even if chemical based fertilizer has production issues you can still throw piles of cow shit everywhere. The only pain point I can isolate would be seed production, many of the crops Monsanto sells to farmers do not propagate seeds and farming beyond the "Old Mcdonald had a farm" level requires bulk seeding via tractor, if seeds don't get produced hooo boy get the gun.
 
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Gotta keep adding to that fear:
In August, Gallup surveyed over 3,000 U.S. adults on their understanding of the likelihood of hospitalization after contracting COVID-19 among those who have versus have not been vaccinated. The results show that most Americans overstate the risk of hospitalization for both groups: 92% overstate the risk that unvaccinated people will be hospitalized, and 62% overstate the risk for vaccinated people. At the same time, U.S. adults are fairly accurate at estimating the effectiveness of vaccines at preventing hospitalization, with the median respondent putting it at 80%.

Democrats provide much higher and more accurate vaccine efficacy estimates than Republicans (88% vs. 50%), and unvaccinated Republicans have a median vaccine efficacy of 0%, compared with 73% for vaccinated Republicans. The results suggest that the low vaccine uptake among Republicans may be driven, at least in part, by an inaccurate understanding of the published data on vaccine effectiveness
 
I just assumed there wouldn't be a Black Friday like last year, with places like Walmart having random sales online and in store in the weeks leading up to Thanksgiving. Does anyone really need another hi-def government-bugged tv though?
 
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3 days.
3 weeks.
3 months.
(In the city). Really the most logical preper move if you live in a city is to find a good friend that doesn't and learn some basic life skill to justify him housing you (and your close family) in some shed.

The USA is the biggest exporter of food in the world. Things would have to get really bad for staples to become unavailable on domestic shelves.

Fun fact for you both, Food harvesting in the USA is nearly totally reliant on machinery if you haven't got the power to run those machines the crops wont get to the table, America also mono crops like no other so while corn will be available it wont be available all over the USA same with of grain crops, same with some vegetables etc. To be able to rely on domestic local production you need to have a diverse local food eco system, and not many places do local agriculture like that any more, and the places that haven't have been shagging the soil raw to enable that easily with the over use of fertiliser and pesticides a lot of farmers haven't ever grown food without heavy machinery or fertiliser before so would struggle to make the change.

That's why I say if anyone can grow there own food even just a little bit they should and if they can use older varieties of seeds not only is the food you grow better tasting they are also better for the environment and are less reliant on pesticide and fertiliser use.
 
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