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So over the counter Aspirin is at least as effective as Merck's $60 a pill AIDS drug? I am fully expecting the Australian Therapeutics Goods Administration to ban it's sale on the grounds that it has scary side effects and de-register any doctor who dares to write a script for it.




Well I can tell you what's happening here and it has zero parts of fuck all to do with the hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid patients.

The missus works in a large hospital in eastern Melbourne. They're facing a chronic staffing shortage, as in being asked to take double their normal patient load most shifts. Sick leave is out of control with multiple staff calling in daily because they have a runny nose and need to take 3 days off to get tested. A bunch of staff left/quit when the mandates were brought in. On top of that a whole bunch more staff outright refuse to work in the Covid wards with staff from other units being constantly transferred over which means more burnout and more sick leave. Oh and there's also a mental health crisis going on because of the year long lockdown with many of her colleagues literally losing their shit and needing psychiatric interventions. Combine that with everyone being sent home for 2 weeks every time a staff member returns a positive PCR and the entire system is unraveling.

It's gotten so bad that even here, in Branch Covidian central, the government has had to ease back on quarantine requirements. Secondary contacts no longer need to test and vaccinated staff can carry on working even if they've been in close contact with a positive case.

If they dealt with Covid like every other respiratory virus in human history the hospitals would be fine.
Tinfoil? I think if there aren't enough deaths then they are going to stress the healthcare system enough until there are enough deaths.
This story is straight up crazy




98% vaccination rate? I'm pressing a hard X to doubt

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How are they going to get every single person in a city of 140,000 people to take the jabs? Also why the fuck are they doing this?

This has nothing to do with testing vaccine efficacy, To conduct a vaccine trial an unvaccinated group needs to be available for comparison.

And at the end of the trial, which no doubt will be an incredible success, what lessons will be learned?

Forced vaccination is coming.
Is big pharma trying to get covid to mutate a bit faster to avoid their latest formulation even more? I mean then they they can start this whole thing all over again.

I seem to remember in spring 2020 being told there was a certain pain medication we shouldn't take because it makes COVID symptoms worse or something. It *may* have been Aspirin but I have no idea. I do definitely remember that going around though.
It's aspirin for kids that's not recommended, it could cause Reye's Syndrome. Dangerous brain and liver swelling when they are recovering from a viral illness. Aspirin is linked with that.

I remember when the goalpoast was 60%

Then sometime in april it moved to 75%

Now its like 90%
Lol no, the goalposts have been moved to 100% TRIPLE SSS+ RANKED PLATINUM VACCINATION LEVELS! Here's how I know, all the government's have already put in their early orders for vaccines for the next few years. The orders are sizeable.

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Pay attention to the total population in some of these countries and compare that to the doses ordered, very interesting.

Try typing in "-coutry of interest- government buys vaccine for future" lots of places doing it, and they want you to use them if they are spending billions on this shit.
 
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I've started developing arthritis and some days it is pretty painful. I've wondered if it really is just old age (because I am at the age where that stuff kicks in) or if it is being accelerated by the fact that I got the vaccine. I also had some weird heart palpitations and racing heartbeat for about a week after the second dose, but had an EKG and everything looked okay.

I regret caving into family pressure to get it, but what's done is done. Only time will tell how much of a fuck up that decision was.

I have also been having some sudden inflammatory response since after my second poisoning, as well as what can only be described as ‘air hunger’, along with fatigue. I’ve been brushing it off as my tortured psyche fucking with me but now I’m wondering if it triggered sarcoidosis or RA or something.
serves me right for being a nigger cattle [spoiler/]
 
A legal flashpoint regarding mask mandates in schools is developing in Wyoming. 16 year old honor roll student, Grace Smith, was trespassed by her own school for repeatedly refusing to comply with the mandate (Archive). Police were called and she was arrested and charged (Archive). WY state senator Anthony Bouchard (R-Cheyenne) has taken an interest in this incident.

Videos of her arrest, taken by her father, Andy Smith (Youtube Channel):

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Bouchard and Smith discuss the mandate and her civil disobedience (Facebook):

 
Lol no, the goalposts have been moved to 100% TRIPLE SSS+ RANKED PLATINUM VACCINATION LEVELS! Here's how I know, all the government's have already put in their early orders for vaccines for the next few years. The orders are sizeable.
At this rate they even want 110% and even 1000%.

Btw, one cop in Denver who was forced to have the jab now have a stroke.

After Denver Mayor Michael B. Hancock announced a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for all city employees in August, Jose Manriquez, a seven-year veteran with the Denver Police Department and father of four, reluctantly received his first dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Aug. 22.

That week, Manriquez told “Fox & Friends” co-host Ainsley Earhardt, he began experiencing body aches and pain in his legs. The following week, the pain grew worse.

Driving home from work one evening, he said, he realized he could no longer feel his feet. He told Earhardt he was unable to feel the gas pedal or the brake and had to call for help.

Sadly, Manriquez’s health has reportedly taken a turn for the worse and his attorney, Randy B. Corporon, provided an update on his condition on Monday. He wrote, “Just hung up with Jose and he has authorized me to share this information. He believes sharing his story is more important than his medical privacy.”

“I am uncertain about exact times but, of course, will get medical records and documentation as we move forward,” Corporon noted.

“I believe it was Friday, while at a doctor’s appointment, that Jose experienced symptoms of a stroke, loss of speech, loss of mental clarity, numbness, unsteadiness, etc. He was hospitalized and kept overnight,” he wrote.

“Testing did NOT verify a stroke but, as a result, instead of being told that he can schedule with a neurologist in 6 months or so, they are scheduling him with a neurologist to be seen tomorrow. We will know the time when they call tomorrow,” he added.
I hope then karma will bite Denver Mayor Michael B. Hancock's back asap.
 
A legal flashpoint regarding mask mandates in schools is developing in Wyoming. 16 year old honor roll student, Grace Smith, was trespassed by her own school for repeatedly refusing to comply with the mandate (Archive). Police were called and she was arrested and charged (Archive). WY state senator Anthony Bouchard (R-Cheyenne) has taken an interest in this incident.

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surprised that's happening in wyoming. figured it'd be southern new england or the west coast
 
I just received word that my idiot friend ( 32 ), who decided to get his second pozzing after his girlfriend ( 27 ) developed some pretty serious shortness of breath a mere two days after her second load, has been suffering from general fatigue, extensive muscle ache and now chest pains.

Non-fat, works out, eats well.

gg bro
Long time lurker of this thread, first time commenter, felt compelled to say that my 57 year old mother told me today that she has Crohn’s disease (inflammatory bowel disease) now. She’s double vaxxed with Pfizer and even got her booster too.

I looked up the causes and there could be other answers but it is suspicious. It says on Mayo that diet and stress were originally thought to be causes but now just exacerbate things and that heredity and a malfunctioning immune system play more of a role in its development. Makes sense cause she eats very well and works out.

What sucks is that even if I bring this up to her she probably will not listen to me.
 
https://www.michigancapitolconfiden...on-doesnt-make-msu-vaccine-mandate-irrational

Court: Lack of Natural Immunity Exception Doesn’t Make MSU Vaccine Mandate Irrational

Judge cites battle of the experts over vaccine efficacy vs. natural immunity
A Michigan State University employee was denied a preliminary injunction in her challenge of a university employee vaccine mandate policy. Among the challenger’s arguments was that the mandate doesn’t meet a rational basis test because it doesn’t make an exception for natural immunity obtained from having caught COVID-19 and recovered.

U.S. District Judge Paul Maloney issued the ruling on Oct. 8.

A group called the New Civil Liberties Alliance filed the class action complaint in the United States District Court for the Western District of Michigan on behalf of MSU employee Jeanna Norris, who contracted COVID-19 in late 2020. She argued that having caught and beat the virus gives her a measure of natural immunity, which means she doesn’t need a vaccination.

MSU brought in an expert witness to challenge the efficacy of natural immunity. But the judge ruled that an ongoing debate over the matter did not mean the university mandate lacked a rational basis.

Judge Maloney wrote:

“The Court heard the battle of the experts, and they essentially presented that there is ongoing scientific debate about the effectiveness of naturally acquired immunity versus vaccine immunity … Put plainly, even if there is vigorous ongoing discussion about the effectiveness of natural immunity, it is rational for MSU to rely on …present federal and state guidance in creating its vaccine mandate.”

The judge wrote that MSU had relied on guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services “and other federal and state agencies” when creating its vaccine policy.

While explaining the legal tests a request for a preliminary injunction must overcome, Judge Maloney also stated, “There is no fundamental right to decline a vaccination,” adding “bodily autonomy has not been deemed a fundamental right.” The judge stated the plaintiff was an at-will employee and had no fundamental right to work at MSU.

Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, an immunologist and a former assistant professor of surgery at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, provided expert testimony on behalf of Norris, according to Just The News.

In response to the ruling, he said:

“Ms. Jeanna Norris’ case against MSU is representative of millions of COVID-recovered and already immune Americans, who should not be coerced into getting vaccinated against their will by the state. It’s a shame to see this failure of the American medical establishment to act on robust clinical evidence and basic scientific precepts. Certainly, the Biden administration’s draconian behavior on vaccine mandates in the recently infected and naturally immune is truly unscientific and, likely, unconstitutional. But with the Norris decision, I was disheartened to see our judiciary branch’s weakness on display too. I suppose in national emergencies, reason, science and ethics fail us and fear prevails – it’s happened before in our history.”

MSU notified staff and students they would be required to be fully vaccinated by Aug. 31 or risk disciplinary action, including possible termination of employment. The policy does allow for limited medical and religious exemptions, which have long been protected under a past U.S. Supreme Court ruling.

NCLA has not stated whether it will appeal the ruling.
"Judge Maloney also stated, “There is no fundamental right to decline a vaccination,” adding “bodily autonomy has not been deemed a fundamental right.”"
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Completely sane man wants to let all of you people that haven’t been vaccinated know that it isn’t for a legitimate reason, it’s because you’re afraid!


Never forget people, where they stood. Never forget when they try to resume things as usual and pretend that they love us and the country they stand on. Never forget what side they are ACTUALLY on. Never forget when they want your money. Never forget they want you dead, future destroyed, your children raped and they find it HILARIOUS.

Never. Fucking. Forget. Dont forget their faces, their names, never ALLOW THEM to get away with it.
Hold on, his PhD is in nursing. He's not a doctor of medicine.

Aka, "I wasnt good enough to be a doctor so I became a nurse, which is the consolation prize equivalent."

There is a reason most nurses are female...(and the male ones are usually fucking losers)
My avatar just got the booster (three in total after the first and second doses), wore all kinds of face protection (mandatory since she's a nurse), and still managed to get the virus.

Peak healthcare logic.

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god these people are retarded

They are peak

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How long until Religious Exemptions get banned?

Wait until the muslims get involved...


Oy vey!! SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

Everything was backed up on Archive.org. No way the Elites can be allowed to memory-hole all of that.


Sometimes, I wonder how many people they dragged off who weren't even sick. Just dissidents, informants, people they'd been tracking for months or years already. :stress:

Consider the HK protests were going strong (and this virus just HAPPENED to come into effect when the protests were getting somewhere), I refuse to believe China hasnt used this as an opportunity to get rid of their growing opposition until the guise of "oi, this one has the Covids".

I barely hear anything from the HK protests nowadays now...guess it worked out just fine for the establishment.

Peak viral warfare. What a time to be alive. We truly live in the Deux Ex timeline.
I've started developing arthritis and some days it is pretty painful. I've wondered if it really is just old age (because I am at the age where that stuff kicks in) or if it is being accelerated by the fact that I got the vaccine. I also had some weird heart palpitations and racing heartbeat for about a week after the second dose, but had an EKG and everything looked okay.

I regret caving into family pressure to get it, but what's done is done. Only time will tell how much of a fuck up that decision was.

Look, man, dont joke around with that stuff. Go to the doctor to have that checked.
Maybe we shouldn't run an authoritarian shithole. Wouldn't need as many exemptions if there were less laws.

An ideal society is where we have small government but the PEOPLE are able to educate and maintain themselves for the most part. There are institutions and companies, sure but the people are the ones in charge. Thats an idea society. Not a PERFECT one but its the closest to we can get without coming off as dystopian.
Holy crap. If you catch covid you WILL die (no other option). What a beautiful, touching, soft piece of propaganda they made.
Almost got vax.

It has that vibe of those "true and honest" PTAS that show smoking weed once will turn you into a crack head where you steal from your family (while over acting like your life depends on it). Or those about climatic change where they show a kid about to be run over. Or the countless ones about smoking and piracy that are so absurd they are comical. I cant wait until we get to the day we are mocking these covid ones freely...
 
Was MAGA Catfished?


Former President Trump and several right-wing Republican lawmakers claimed over the holiday weekend that hundreds of canceled and delayed Southwest Airlines flights resulted from pilots and other airline employees resisting vaccine mandates. But the airline, the pilots union and the FAA have all said that Southwest's vaccine requirements had nothing to do with this weekend's issues.

Southwest canceled more than 2,000 flights between Saturday and Monday and at least 1,400 other flights were delayed. The airline blamed severe weather, air traffic control staff shortages and a lack of hotel accommodations for employees for creating a cascading series of issues that led to inadequate staffing on more than one-fourth of Southwest's weekend flights. The union representing Southwest pilots blamed the airline's complicated technological system, which reassigns and reroutes pilots during disruptions, for causing a "domino effect" that forced the company to reassign more than 70% of its pilots over the weekend. Southwest saw a similar string of cancellations in June, which the airline later blamed on overly optimistic projections about how quickly it could scale up flights as passengers began to return over the summer.

This weekend's cancellations came just two days after the Southwest pilots' union asked a federal judge to block the company's vaccine mandate. Republican lawmakers, without evidence, quickly seized on an imaginary link, tying the travel chaos to the company's new policy and President Biden's call for a federal vaccine mandate.

"Joe Biden's illegal vaccine mandate at work. Suddenly, we're short on pilots & air traffic controllers," Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, declared on Twitter — while actually linking to a CNBC article that quoted an airline spokeswoman refuting his claim as an "unfounded rumor" and "inaccurate."

Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., claimed that Southwest employees were "standing up for their rights as Americans."

"You will NEVER be able to comply your way out of tyranny," she tweeted.

Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., said he stands with Southwest employees who are "fighting against these mandates."

"This isn't about a vaccine, this is about freedom," he wrote.

"Shut them down," wrote Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas.

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Donald Trump also sought to link the issues to vaccine mandates, as well as his endlessly repeated false claims about the 2020 election.

"I think it has a lot to do with a lot of things. I think it has something to do with the election that was rigged," he said in a radio interview this weekend. "I think these are big fans of your favorite president, I think that this has something to do with that. I think it has something to do with the ... I think it has a lot to do with mandates."

Donald Trump Jr., also amplified the baseless claim on Twitter, claiming that employees had gone on "strike" over the mandates.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson amplified these unfounded claims to his primetime audience, saying that the flight cancellations were the "direct consequence" of Biden's vaccine mandate.

But there's no evidence of a strike or sick-out by airline employees. The pilots' union has said that pilots called in sick at a normal rate over the weekend.

Asked how much the company's vaccine mandate contributed to the cancellations, Southwest CEO Gary Kelly told CNBC, "Zero."

Kelly said that the rate of employee absences over the weekend was "very normal."

"Understand how airlines work," he said. "When you get behind, it just takes several days to catch up."

The Southwest Airlines Pilots Association said on Saturday that "our pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial action."

"There are false claims of job actions by Southwest Pilots currently gaining traction on social media and making their way into mainstream news. I can say with certainty that there are no work slowdowns or sickouts either related to the recent mandatory vaccine mandate or otherwise," union president Casey Murray said in a statement on Sunday, pointing instead to severe weather in the southeast United States, staffing shortages and the company's operating system, which he said has become "subject to massive failures under the slightest pressure."

The union said last week that it does not oppose vaccines but filed a lawsuit to block the mandate because Southwest had not consulted employees before making the decision.

Murray told the Dallas Morning News that pilot sick rates over the weekend "were exactly in line with where they were all summer with the same kind of operational disasters."

Incoming Southwest CEO Bob Jordan last month blamed the company's months-long issues predating the vaccine mandates on staffing shortages stemming from the pandemic, when thousands of employees accepted buyouts, early retirements or long-term leave.

Southwest COO Mike Van de Ven said in a video to employees that despite "a very aggressive hiring plan ... we are still not where we want to be with staffing," especially pilots.

Industry experts blamed the company's "point-to-point route network" for making the airline more susceptible to widespread issues than other airlines. Delays cause cascading issues at each flight's additional stops and the airline had scheduled more flights than it could handle, Henry Harteveldt, president of the Atmosphere Research Group, told NBC News.

"You screw up Florida, you screw up their whole network a whole lot more because it's connected to the rest of their system. Once it gets screwed up, airplanes are out of place, crews are out of place," added Mike Boyd, an aviation consultant at Boyd Group International. "The crew gets stuck in Omaha and ran out of time, they should be in Orlando. Getting that squared away takes time."

Cruz ignored all of the contradictory evidence and statements from the airline, the pilots and the FAA — which also said there is no evidence that "this weekend's cancellations were related to vaccine mandates" — to accuse the media of Democratic propaganda when his baseless claim was widely fact-checked. He then claimed he had not meant Southwest employees but was referring to air traffic controllers in Jacksonville, where local aviation authorities reported staffing issues over the weekend.

But the statement he posted explicitly refuted the "rumor" that it was impacted by an "organized walkout late Friday by controllers in response to the FAA's mandate that all employees get vaccinated." Instead, it blamed staffing issues on "normal approved leave" and controllers who are required to stay at home for 48 hours after getting vaccinated.

"If you believe the pilots unions, MANY MORE FLIGHT CANCELLATIONS ARE COMING (and not just SWA) because of Biden's illegal vaccine mandate," Cruz wrote.

Nearly all major airlines have now required employees to be vaccinated without encountering the same problems as Southwest, where the issues have persisted for more than four years, according to the pilots' union. While Republicans continue to attack Biden for urging vaccine requirements, most voters support such mandates and data shows that compliance rates have been exceptionally high.

United Airlines, the first airline to require vaccines for employees at a time when its overall vaccination rate was below 70% in August, says that all but about 300 of the company's 67,000 employees have been vaccinated or granted exemptions, a rate of more than 99.5%.

"I did not appreciate the intensity of support for a vaccine mandate that existed, because you hear that loud anti-vax voice a lot more than you hear the people that want it," United CEO Scott Kirby told The New York Times. "But there are more of them. And they're just as intense."


 
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Well, Eric.

First of all, planes aren't brand new experimental tech. Furthermore, said analogous experimental tech hasn't frighteningly managed to kill and maim several of its passengers every time it's entered testing, only to have the FAA fast track its approval just because flying is now an "emergency".

Second of all, Big Airline doesn't have a business model that inherently involves an incentive to poison their customer base to maintain repeat customers. Just maybe a little place where that analogy breaks down.

Third, the government isn't seriously talking about making plane tickets mandatory recurring purchases for the rest of your life.
 
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Probably because it's a public school in the 4th largest city in Wyoming. It's a comparatively small city though. The pozz infects everywhere I guess.

Even the reddest states have these blue islands of pozz. Usually around a university or state/federal government offices. Laramie is the home of the University of Wyoming.
 
It’s been drilled into professionals’ heads since the 70’s that if you don’t follow the rules to the letter and have all your forms signed in triplicate, some humorless men in gray suits will spitroast you and your dog in front of your children.
That's true. In my state, I believe that business owners who didn't comply with the ever-changing regulations were subject to inspections from the state-level OSHA folks and potential five-figure fines -- the perfect insult to injury for small business owners who were trying to keep their businesses afloat while trying to keep up with the COVID-related restrictions that were arbitrary and changed in the most logic-defying ways.

That's why I did the bare minimum when I ran my former boss' business on an interim basis in terms of what was legally required for compliance. It also helped that the majority of the established clients I saw before relocating from the office all thought the situation was a joke.

Suddenly, the science has changed. Aspirin is now dangerous to the olds.
On the way home tonight, the radio broadcast I heard about this stated people shouldn't take low-dose aspirin to prevent heart attacks but that it was still fine for people already taking it to still do so 🤷‍♂️. If it was as unsafe as claimed, why have the equivalent of a grandfather clause for those currently taking it?

This is another example why people have come to distrust medical experts more and instead do what they think is right, for better or for worse. In their mind, a lay opinion can't be worse than an expert's opinion when the experts can't come to a consensus.
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