Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[fhqwhgads]

Saw this doozy on the BBC earlier today, one of their 'reality checks': Covid: Misleading vaccine claims target children and parents https://archive.is/FZNba

Campaigners have been gathering outside schools, handing out what they claim are legal documents or "notices of liability" to head teachers, warning them not to vaccinate children.

Before the government's decision to extend the UK Covid vaccination programme to 12- to 15-year-olds was announced, debate simmered over whether the jab should be offered to healthy children, who are at a much lower risk from the virus than older age groups.

But alongside genuine discussion, campaigners opposed to the vaccine have been spreading misinformation.

I'm glad that this pandemic opened my eyes to what our propaganda arm of the government really means by 'misinformation', i.e. 'things we don't want you to hear'.

Why don't we take a look at the misinformation being touted by the evil anti-vaxxers that hate our children?

Fake consent form​

A fake vaccine-consent letter, pretending to be from the NHS, was sent to schools in England.

• Schools warn about hoax anti-vaccine letters

The letter falsely stated there was a "one in 29,389 chance of dying from the vaccine", comparing that with children's extremely low risk of death from the virus.

Falsely stated? So either BBC means that the source the letter is pulling from is wrong, or they're getting at that it's a case of correlation =/= causation in that a death following a vaccine doesn't necessarily indicate it was due to the vaccine. Because inflating death statistics like that is wrong and misinformation.

Let's have a look at the letter then.

I love how they've plastered a big red 'FAKE' over this. No effort to examine each of the claims made by this document, just FAKE and MISINFORMATION and IGNORE, because it's got an NHS logo on it, and isn't from the NHS. Forget about the actual content.

The figure appears to have been taken from the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency's Yellow Card scheme, for people to report any suspected side-effects after vaccination.

Roughly 49 million people have had at least one vaccine dose and about 1,600 deaths have been logged in the scheme so far.

Alright, so numbers are legit, so this must mean....

But someone dying after a jab does not mean the vaccine is responsible.

People die from all sorts of causes every day and most of the adult population has now been vaccinated, including the vast majority of those most at risk of death - the elderly or those with underlying illnesses.

...that correlation =/= causation and so you must therefore ignore these numbers coming out of the system that is in place to detect adverse effects from vaccination, rather than paying attention and doing further studies and investigations as to why they are so damn high compared to other actual vaccines.

But don't worry when they do the exact same thing to the corona death toll. Everyone testing positive (or false positive) with corona is a corona death, which, when looking at this, is a perfectly legitimate and valid way of recording data.

The MHRA investigates the reported side-effects, including deaths, to see whether they are higher in vaccinated people than would be expected in the population normally - which, generally, they have not been.

Am I missing something here? How could that possibly be the case? I know I'm using data from another country here, but how could you look at VAERS and not come to the conclusion that these cases are higher vs the general population? How could this not be true for the UK as well considering we're using the same vaccines?

As of August, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) had recorded nine deaths to which the vaccine was found to have contributed, five of which had the vaccine as the underlying cause.

This was determined by doctors who examined the patient and had access to their medical records and test results.

That suggests a one in five million risk of dying.

The real misinformation is the reality check itself.

How many of the deaths reported to MHRA have been followed up on to check whether it was caused by the vaccine?

How many deaths never got reported to MHRA in the first place? We all know that it's a system that is going to be vastly underreported to, just generally speaking, but never mind when it's something so politicised and polarising as this. If doctors are told how safe and effective the vaccines are, then when their patient dies not long after vaccination, will their mind jump to the vaccine as a possible cause?

Why mention the MHRA, a system specifically looking at side effects from vaccines, just to ignore it and quote from the ONS in the very next sentence, because those figures are more line with the narrative they wish to weave? Silly me, answered my own question.

On the other hand, the risk of dying of Covid if you are unvaccinated has been estimated at 0.8% or 35,000 deaths per five million for all ages.

You disingenuous fuckers. Why don't we break mortality rate down by age? You know, when the article is talking about anti-vaxxers targeting children? The letter itself does that! Here's a table I grabbed from google demonstrating the same thing. We've had multiple other tables in the thread before that you will have seen.




0.2% for those in secondary school and basically 0 for anyone younger.

Fuck off.

And there have been 161,000 deaths so far where Covid was judged to be an underlying cause, including at least 76 children, according to ONS records.

How many of those actually did die due to corona? Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say those all legitimately were deaths due to corona.

How many of those kids were obese? How many of those kids had comorbidities?

And 76 deaths, especially children, is very sad. But we have around 14m children in the UK. 76/14,000,000 = 0.0005% of the child population has died. Do we need to push this vaccine out when so few are at risk in the first place?

The UK's Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), which produces recommendations for government, said the benefits for 12- to 15-year-olds from the vaccine were greater than the risks.

At least this article is informing me of who to never trust. Although, thanks to everything that's happened, that's my initial stance now, don't trust anyone, not implicitly and not without checking things out for myself first. Just wish I'd learned this lesson sooner in life.

The form also suggests the vaccine may not stop people catching Covid or passing it on.

In fact, the vaccine reduces the chances of catching the virus by about half and, even if someone does catch it, reduces the amount of virus in the system, making it less likely they will pass it on.

Lol'd when I read this the first time. Just love how it contradicts itself in the very next sentence.

"The letter suggests it might not stop you from passing it on. But, actually, you still have a 50% chance of passing it on."

??? So the letter is right then?

The second part, 'even if someone does catch it, reduces the amount of virus in the system, making it less likely they will pass it on", isn't that a lie? Vaccinated still have same viral load so still have the same chance of passing it on.

Maybe it's like thinking that men can become women. If we shout out 'transwomen are women!!' loud enough and for long enough, it'll eventually become true, so maybe it's the same for the vax.

The vaccine is safe & effective!
The vaccine is safe & effective!
The vaccine is safe & effective!

Claims about myocarditis​

Teenage boys' very slightly but genuinely elevated risk of developing a condition called myocarditis - inflammation of the heart - after vaccination has been highlighted by campaigners opposed to Covid jabs.

They emphasise these rare negative events from the vaccine while downplaying the risks to children of catching the virus - including "long Covid".

Most cases of myocarditis after vaccination were resolved quickly following treatment.

• What do under-30s need to know about the vaccine?

It is a case of balancing risks.

Just a bit of heart inflammation, no big deal, nothing to see here. We talked earlier on in the thread about how serious myocarditis can be, I can't remember the specifics, but it is not something that you want to be diagnosed with, especially not as a child who is supposed to have the rest of their life ahead of them.

Also, muh long covid!

Image caption, A meme circulating online riffs on a common comparison of the vaccine to seatbelts as a risk-reduction tool

This pic was even funnier than the last. MORE CONTEXT NEEDED for a joke, you shitting me?

The JCVI estimates a single first dose of the Pfizer vaccine prevents 87 Covid-related hospital admissions per million children but comes with a risk of three to 17 cases of vaccine-induced myocarditis per million children.

The second dose is estimated to prevent a further six hospital admissions per million but comes with the risk of a further 12 to 34 cases of myocarditis - which is why the chief medical officers decided to recommend just one dose.

Myocarditis is actually more common after catching Covid than after the vaccine.

But the MRHA says it is important anyone who experiences a "new onset of symptoms such as chest pain, shortness of breath or feelings of having a fast-beating, fluttering, or pounding heart" after the vaccine seeks medical attention.

So for every 87 children who don't go to hosptial, there's up to 17 children developing myocarditis after one dose of this safe and effective vaccine.

It's so safe and effective, that giving a second dose actually tips this such that there are more children with myocarditis than those prevented from going to hospital.

'Myocarditis is more common after corona than the vaccine', is that in the child population it's talking about there?

Co-ordinated campaign​

It is difficult to pin down how many people are actively campaigning against the vaccine for children - but there is evidence it is fewer than they would like people to think.

Aw shit, only a few other people have issues with the vaccine rollout? Better pack our things up and go home, boys.

Several seemingly grassroots groups have sprung up appearing to be operating separately - but they seem to consist of a relatively small number of overlapping members.

Leaked chat logs from the anti-lockdown Health Advisory and Recovery Team show members discussing putting their message against vaccines out under the banner of another organisation, the UK Medical Freedom Alliance, "if it is too inflammatory for Hart".

• Children targeted by anti-vax protesters at school
• Anti-vax protesters target children at school gate

Another member discussed sharing research from a third vaccine-detracting body, the British Ivermectin Recommendation and Development Group, because "psychologically this then looks like two groups of professionals agreeing with each other (making the content more believable as it looks like two separate groups)".

Members of these organisations also have links to Us for Them, which says it represent parents, and the campaign group Safer to Wait.
Its founder can be seen in the leaked Hart members chat, asking the group to distribute a Safer to Wait leaflet with misleading claims about the vaccine to primary-school parents.

These campaigns appear to be having a wide reach, with protests at schools across the UK.

So which is it? Is barely anyone concerned about this? Or are they having a 'wide reach' with many protests across the country?

That's the article for you. What a load of contradictory nonsensical bollocks. How the fuck did I ever believe the fucking BBC.

 

[borsabil]

The UK Health Security Agency has released it's new Covid tracking numbers and just wow

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf

The signal that the vaccinated are more likely to catch and spread Covid appears to be accelerating. Vaccinated people over 40 are more likely to catch Covid, in the 40-49 age group they're more than twice as likely. In this age group alone 25000 vaccinated people a week are catching the coof.

Australia's vaccine use is similar to the UK's, a mix of Astra Zeneca and Pfizer, although we only have a tiny number of people with natural immunity. Looking at this we're going to see some startling case numbers in the coming months unless the government here decides to stop testing.

Meantime fully vaccinated Singapore is suffering it's worst outbreak of the pandemic. How big? Try four times

Delta Covid is something in the order of 20-50 times less virulent than the Wuhan strain. So they've decided to accept reality

Singapore 'shifting' COVID-19 to 'seasonal flu'

In an editorial titled ‘Living Normally, with Covid-19’ published by the Straits Times, several Singaporean government ministers outlined a roadmap to a ‘new normal’, where COVID-19 is viewed as similar to influenza.

So that makes every Scandinavian country and now Singapore who recognise that Covid has mutated into an annoying chest cold that will occasionally kill an old person and a death fat. Of course they will credit the vaccines but the truth is Covid was done with us in April when the second big infection spike was over and Delta became dominant.

The UK numbers are a worry though. Not because of Covid but what seeing the vaccinated catch the bug at such a high rate means in terms of the damage the vaccines might be doing to their immune systems. It's October and winter flu season will be kicking in soon, so we'll find out soon enough.

 

[borsabil]

fhqwhgads the death rate for under 18's in the UK isn't 0.2% it's 0%

That's accounting for all the fuckery and false positives.

Even deep dive studies by committed Branch Covidians can't find a single healthy child who's actually died from Covid. The vast majority of them either have a mild cold or are completely asymptomatic.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's too bad too since measles was almost eliminated in most western countries thanks to vaccines. Say what you want about the MMR vaccine, but they caused far less negative effects and actually prevented illness and transmission of illness.

I am endlessly salty about Wakefield and his stupid MMR vaccine bullshit. Not only did his sperging about the MMR vax in particular cause a subsequent up-tick in measles cases in the west, but it also discredited any legitimate research into potential, previously undocumented side-effects of both measles vaccination and the live disease itself.

There's some circumstantial evidence that measles may cause gut perforation, alongside a bunch of other inflammatory issues (oh there's that word again). There was also circumstantial evidence that the deactivated virus might have similar effects. The effects weren't anticipated, either because they don't follow the accepted model for how a virus affects the body, or because the knowledge of how the body works in general was lacking at the time. Our understanding of biochemistry is much more advanced now.

But good luck finding any research on the subject. It has become anathema to even consider probing the topic of unknown vaccine side effects. To do so, no matter how good your intentions, gets you immediately labelled as a conspiracy theorist antivaxer.

Fucking Wakefield set back real science by decades with his idiocy. Fuck him. And fuck Private Eye as well for promoting it so heavily.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

And they made the anti-vax movement that used to be fringe that everyone laughed at a decade ago into a real legit thing. Good job cultists you overplayed your hand.

Reminder that the Assad regime released known terrorists from prison anticipating said terrorists would then go on to join and co-opt the FSA, thus discrediting and destabilizing their opposition.

Are these "experts" destroying their credibility deliberately?

This. This is how new variants evolve.
Catching COVID after being vaccinated basically ensures whatever lineage you catch has some form of resistance to the vaccine (and possibly natural immunity) and will then go on to spread and propagate.

Imagine taking penicillin while seeking out to get infected by a penicillin-resistant bacteria.
Actually isn't this what literal bug-chasers do with AIDS? Isn't this part of the super-bug fetish to be the next faggot to get high viral loads while taking PreP or something?

What are your thoughts on many of us having some kind of immunity due to common corona colds? It's considered an alt right conspiracy to nobodies surprise. Covidians say that COVID is too different from the corona type cold (makes up 1/3 of colds roughly?). I have seen reports that it may help to some degree but I'm not knowledgeable enough. If covidians say it's not true then it's at least moderately true.

Yes.

The reason I remember it is because there was a study stating that being exposed to the common cold gave everyone protection, even to the old and the fats. I told my mom then that the coof was a total nothingburger if the common cold gave cross immunity, and she went off on how she didn't get the cold last winter because of the lockdown so people are at risk anyway.
Yeah, who'd have guessed that not being outside would have weakened our immune systems?

In that case it was less about cross-immunity and more about Rhinoviruses (60-80% of all common colds) out-competing COVID in the human body. So basically if you get infected with both the Rhinovirus is better at binding and hijacking your cells than SARS-CoV-2/COVID.

 

[fhqwhgads]

fhqwhgads the death rate for under 18's in the UK isn't 0.2% it's 0%

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That's accounting for all the fuckery and false positives.

Even deep dive studies by committed Branch Covidians can't find a single healthy child who's actually died from Covid. The vast majority of them either have a mild cold or are completely asymptomatic.

What the christ, 4 deaths under 18, where are the other 72 kids they quoted from ONS then? Nothing adds up, and when you point this out to people, it's not a big deal? It just gets handwaved away and forgotten about the next time nothing makes sense.

 

[Fek]

I don't recall seeing this brought up prior to now, so correct me if I'm wrong:

Dr Peter McCullough Oct 2 2021 Must See Association of American Physicians 78th Annual Meeting

This must see presentation by Dr Peter McCullough from the 78th Annual Meeting of the Association of American Physicians was recorded on Oct 2 2021. He sums up the situation with Coronavirus and Genetic mRNA shots very succinctly from a pure and aut…

www.bitchute.com

I couldn't find the video on youtube (with an admittedly quick search because fuck youtube), but that shouldn't matter. Dr. McCullough breaks down the jabs at the annual AAP meeting using data readily available and demonstrates why they should not be in use without resorting to (almost) any shit that would trigger pushback programming in retards. He also proposes "easily" implemented solutions that have demonstrated to be very effective for those who have Kung Flu symptoms beyond a mild cold. Hopefully this helps at least a few of you with your own situations convincing others to not be nigger cattle.

Highly recommend at least listening along to it if you can't watch it properly.

 

[borsabil]

What the christ, 4 deaths under 18, where are the other 72 kids they quoted from ONS then? Nothing adds up, and when you point this out to people, it's not a big deal? It just gets handwaved away and forgotten about the next time nothing makes sense.

These are NHS England's numbers for the past 4 weeks, the 72 deaths may cover the entire pandemic. There have been 350,000 under 18's showing a positive of which 4 died within 28 days. It's not an exact CFR as the reporting periods for mortality won't align with cases which is why they give us a death rate per 100,000 population, which for children is zero. The seasonal flu and especially RSV kills way more children than Covid.

As you can see Covid is infecting children in massive numbers. Likely because they're back at school and mixing but also I imagine lots and lots of false positives as they insist on doing pointless antigen swab and PCR testing on them. Oh nos! This is terrible won't anyone thing of the lil chiilin?

Except none of them are getting sick

And as sure as fuck none of them are dying

This is a GOOD thing. We want children to get proper sterilising immunity. We don't want them to be injected with leaky vaccines that have a high rate of adverse reactions and no long term safety data. Any parent who willingly allows their child to be jabbed should go neck themselves.

 

[fhqwhgads]

These are NHS England's numbers for the past 4 weeks, the 72 deaths may cover the entire pandemic. There have been 350,000 under 18's showing a positive of which 4 died within 28 days. It's not an exact CFR as the reporting periods for mortality won't align with cases which is why they give us a death rate per 100,000 population, which for children is zero. The seasonal flu and especially RSV kills way more children than Covid.

Fair enough about the figures, serves me right for trying to look at this around work! Cheers for always being on point with the stats.

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

I am endlessly salty about Wakefield and his stupid MMR vaccine bullshit. Not only did his sperging about the MMR vax in particular cause a subsequent up-tick in measles cases in the west, but it also discredited any legitimate research into potential, previously undocumented side-effects of both measles vaccination and the live disease itself.

There's some circumstantial evidence that measles may cause gut perforation, alongside a bunch of other inflammatory issues (oh there's that word again). There was also circumstantial evidence that the deactivated virus might have similar effects. The effects weren't anticipated, either because they don't follow the accepted model for how a virus affects the body, or because the knowledge of how the body works in general was lacking at the time. Our understanding of biochemistry is much more advanced now.

But good luck finding any research on the subject. It has become anathema to even consider probing the topic of unknown vaccine side effects. To do so, no matter how good your intentions, gets you immediately labelled as a conspiracy theorist antivaxer.

Fucking Wakefield set back real science by decades with his idiocy. Fuck him. And fuck Private Eye as well for promoting it so heavily.

With all due respect, I don't think it's Wakefield's fault. If genuine debate about safety and efficacy of vaccines was allowed, his research would be just a blip among hundreds of other papers. He is not responsible for the taboo topics in modern medicine. If there could be any silver lining to this insanity with mass vaccination with not properly tested and experimental mRNA vaccines is that it forced many people who would never consider themselves as anti-vaxxers to rethink vaccines. Maybe the critical mass will be reached and it will open the discussion about all the vax?

 

[Fliddaroonie]

The situation in Italy is getting out of control. We're about to get fucked more than ever: electricity and heating gas bills are projected to rise by around 40%. Staple food (flour, milk, eggs, meat and cheese) by 20%. The government (or whatever the EU allows us to run by ourselves) here is discussing a nationwide plan to recalculate the square meter/euro parameters of residential buildings, which according to independent sources would cause an increase of all residential rents between 50 and 100% within the next 5 to 10 years, same for housing ownership taxation. Yes these are correct numbers, I double checked myself.

Oh and national compulsory green pass (aka get your triple shots or don't get paid but don't worry we won't fire you yet because that would be against the constitution) and mask mandate anywhere public and indoor.

Earlier this week, anarchists (whoops, I meant fascist/racist/nazis and white supremacists, even the ones waving hammer and sickle flags) ransacked the national headquarters of a major union in downtown Rome, causing another wave of such propaganda that would make American media blush like a Japanese schoolgirl in a manga involving tentacles (said union prostituted itself for two decades to the Left and its corporation thralls, but let's not mention that anywhere).

What can I say, bleak times ahead. Here at Puerto Pollo's home we've already tuned down heating- Italy is currently experiencing the coldest autumn in years- from 20 to 18 degrees, everyone in the house is wearing hoodies and thermal shirts, sleeping all dressed up in bed, turned off all non essential lights.

I'm also aggressively hunting discount stores promotions for whatever is discounted, haven't renewed my public transportation pass and gave up on signing at a gym...and we're barely scraping by. One bill higher than usual and we'll have to cut fancy foods like ground beef and canned tuna. Already switched from fresh to UHT milk and filled the garage with 5kg boxes of flour, potatoes and dried cereals for a bit of peace of mind.

I'm very concerned about the future and my family is moderately well-off compared to the average Italian household. I can't even conceive how "normal", lower-middle class people will manage to get through this. My formerly ethnically homogenous, wealthy Italian city is becoming more and more like a neighborhood of Los Angeles.

What's even going on in poor regions of Southern Italy? Or Eastern Europe? And why are we still taking thousands of Africans, Pakistani and whatever the third world is regurgitating on us? They even refused the fucking vaccine.

Christ nuke this world already.

Sleep naked. Seriously. Your bed will heat better and faster. hat and socks at a push, but lose the clothes.

Also, while that sucks for you, and it does, I am sorry. It's nice to hear a rebuttal to the grauniad reading, BBC gobbling spastics who are blaming it all on us leaving the EU. How can that be so if it's happening to EU member states as well?

 

[Jarolleon]

So now our betters are talking about extending the "vaccination" passport through next July. So sorry so French, couldn't find an English-language source yet:

Covid-19 : le recours possible au passe sanitaire pourrait être prolongé jusqu’en juillet 2022, annonce le gouvernement

I would really, REALLY like to know what, if any, economic impact the decision to remove 25% of the population from public life has had. My guess is that if the news on that front were good, it would be plastered all over the papers, teevee, and Internet. But it isn't. Every business owner who I have (politely!) declined to spend money with on the ground that they are enforcing the pass has gotten EXTREMELY huffy about it, even by French standards. Something ain't right.

"To be fair 90% of jobs are pointless busywork so the economic impact is close to zero "-Reddit commies, probably.

Edit: merged into previous post.

That's give an other good reason for why parents will homeschool their kids.

I wonder how fragmented America will be when everyone on the right is homeschooling and everyone on the left still uses public school. "Parallel society" has become a bit of a cliche but that would be a very stark example thereof. Would make for a truly horrifying conflict too, it wouldn't be states fighting against one another, but families in the same town.

I assume there's some bullshit reason that "there is no fundamental right to bodily autonomy" doesn't immediately and utterly annihilate all laws barring abortion bans.

Because Roe v. Wade isn't about bodily autonomy, but some weird interpretation of privacy, if Rackets is to be believed.

Probably because it's a public school in the 4th largest city in Wyoming. It's a comparatively small city though. The pozz infects everywhere I guess.

I've noticed that the people most zealous about the coof aren't super progressives, but milquetoast conservatives like Boris Johnson and Doug Ford. Probably something to do with disgust sensitivity correlating with conservatism, the libs support it because it empowers people they like and punishes people they hate, but the normie cons in countries with more tightly controlled media are genuinely scared of the coof.

 

[Puff]

"To be fair 90% of jobs are pointless busywork so the economic impact is close to zero "-Reddit commies, probably.

Well, 90% of white collar jobs ARE just busywork. Problem is these mandates target the personality types that generally actually work.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

How many times are they going to say it could happen and we should investigate it? Every few months they say it, but then later on act like they just discovered it could be true all over again. It's like they put a bunch of Alzheimer's patients in charge of figuring out where this thing came from.

At this point, any damning evidence that may have existed has been scrubbed clean in China and will never be discovered. Even if this was part of some nefarious plot, there will be no way to prove it unless a credible source is foolish enough to come forward and blow the whistle.

Am I correct to assume that he's just bullshitting to try to get my vote and what studies can I look at that proves or disproves what he said?

It will probably be difficult to find truly objective studies and information that would allow for an informed opinion. Nevertheless, remember that most politicians will tell voters what they want to hear in order to get their vote on election day.

 

[Scale Smerch]

At this stage in the game I am honestly thinking the passports are a mechanism designed to deflate the overly inflated economy. This is because we are seeing the same phenomenon just about anywhere in the developed world. Mass influx of immigration even before COVID, social services at the brink of collapse, unemployment rates that are exceeding the normal paradigm despite there are job postings everywhere currently, mandates that cannot be enforced, just because the sheer magnitude of businesses that have to comply in lockstep with the COVID gustapo.

The argument sounds good but IMO doesn't stand up to current events. If the goal was to deflate economies you wouldn't see all the logistical challenges, there wouldn't be issues with manufacturing or production, and governments would do everything possible to keep basic essentials like food and fuel from jumping in price.

Instead? We have rising inflation, chaotic supply, and governments increasingly willing to go all-in on vaccine mandates. If vax passes were to stop inflation you wouldn't be applying them to truckers or airlines, you wouldn't force small businesses to check for them, and you wouldn't fire anyone over not having them - it creates too many problems in critical industries when combined with all the pandemic stimulus flying about.

These passports are I think more likely a knee jerk reaction to coerce high vaccination rates since all politicians care about right now is that "Mission Accomplished" message. There's certainly tendrils of control and subversion of basic rights at play (particularly among the think tank crowd), but it's not the leading objective, at least right now.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

The vast majority of the COVID tests we've done at the clinic have either been negative or positive for enterovirus/rhinovirus, I've noticed.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Do we have any good research on asymptomatic spread? I recall that being deboonked but has that changed?

 

[Blake Chortles]

The vast majority of the COVID tests we've done at the clinic have either been negative or positive for enterovirus/rhinovirus, I've noticed.

Same. Lots of human metapneumovirus too.

Theres far more of other viruses than covid. I’d say covid is a distant 2nd or 3rd in our region right now.

 

[Lichen Bark]

My sister who has given birth recently is dead set on getting vaxx'd with Pfizer. Now I couldn't really care much about her and her devotion to The Science, but I'm worried about side effects being sent to my new little niece via breastmilk from that mrna shit from the vaxx.

Is there a high chance nasty shit getting sent via breastmilk, or do you have any recommended links to show someone to bring them away from The Science?

Ask her if she is planning on signing up for the pregnant women's vaccine registry?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafepregnancyregistry.html

They are really looking hard into this don't worry, look at the "huge" number of people enrolled.

Did she even know this existed? Was she informed about it? They are still studying this stuff lol.

Edit: I realize she's already given birth so I will post this study I posted earlier, it involves lactating women in Canada. They are still looking at this, meaning they don't know everything, meaning there could be unexpected results from all this.
https://covered.med.ubc.ca/

Interesting statement there, they really want to attract unvaccinated pregnant women I think with that "nor do they need to intend to receive the vaccine." disclaimer.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Ask her if she is planning on signing up for the pregnant women's vaccine registry?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/vsafepregnancyregistry.html

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They are really looking hard into this don't worry, look at the "huge" number of people enrolled.
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Did she even know this existed? Was she informed about it? They are still studying this stuff lol.

Cue to that old classic trope: "what could possibly go wrong?"