Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Never Scored]

Or you are part of the gang and heavily armed that helps too . I mean how long before local gangbangers descent to the rural areas for pillaging.

I think you should read up how was like during Weimar hyperinflation . Cities raiding villages and villages buckling up

I think it really depends on where you live. The population in Germany during Weimar was what, 62 million people? Even back then there was north of 130 people per square kilometre. Compare that to say, Montana today which is 80% the size Weimar was geographically, yet you have less than 2% of the population of Weimar Germany with 2.73 people per square kilometre and any major city is hundreds of kilometres away no matter where you are in the state. A gang of kangz ain't gonna to roll hundreds of miles through several states and past cities and through miles and miles of woods and shit to get to your cabin in rural Montana with no guarantee if you have food or not.

I'd be sweating a lot more if I lived in the UK or most other European countries or a state like New York or California or a place like the Golden Horseshoe in Ontario, than I would if I lived in a state like Montana, Alaska, the Dakotas or Wyoming or a province like Manitoba, Newfoundland or Saskatchewan.

 

[Aqua Panda]

My younger brother just graduated college with a bachelors in business and had 3 companies offer him $8 an hour. None of them would budge higher. He obviously walked and said he could make more money working McDonald's.

Wages will have to rise. The minimum wage of 7.25 an hour is effectively 0 an hour in many places. It has been kept low too long. It'll have to be either forced higher through mandate or business realizing they won't survive.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

My younger brother just graduated college with a bachelors in business and had 3 companies offer him $8 an hour. None of them would budge higher. He obviously walked and said he could make more money working McDonald's.

Wages will have to rise. The minimum wage of 7.25 an hour is effectively 0 an hour in many places. It has been kept too low too long.

Frankly, it should've risen to $15 years ago, but even if it did rise to that now, it still wouldn't be enough anymore.

 

[Sped Xing]

I've said it before, but I'm in debt up to my eyeballs. Stop promising me hyperinflation.

Debt to expand my business, not debt from Disneyworld vacations, TYVM.

My younger brother just graduated college with a bachelors in business and had 3 companies offer him $8 an hour. None of them would budge higher. He obviously walked and said he could make more money working McDonald's.

Wages will have to rise. The minimum wage of 7.25 an hour is effectively 0 an hour in many places. It has been kept low too long. It'll have to be either forced higher through mandate or business realizing they won't survive.

Where's the guy who was saying getting a business degree was way better than learning to fix trucks because mechanics have to buy their own tools? Holy shit, the retarded Mexicans who do the nightly sanitizing here make eleven dollars an hour starting out. Eight an hour is Sandwich Artist money.

 

[Never Scored]

Stop promising me hyperinflation.

We're not getting hyperinflation, but I am betting on 4-5% year over year for the next couple of years.

 

[Sped Xing]

We're not getting hyperinflation, but I am betting on 4-5% year over year for the next couple of years.

That's more than my interest, but I'd rather pay it off by selling a potato.

I'll take it, though.

 

[Never Scored]

That's more than my interest, but I'd rather pay it off by selling a potato.

I'll take it, though.

Powerleveling a bit here, but I have a half acre rural lot with a trailer parked on it, kind of our little vacation spot. Anyway, the guy with the lot next to mine put his up for sale. I don't usually like to take on debt, but I bought it with a five-year secured loan because I'm betting on persistant inflation above the fed target and the increasing value of the land will far outpace the interest and now I have a full acre. I'm not talking fuck off money here. I don't live in Toronto. It was under $20k.

 

[Sped Xing]

Powerleveling a bit here, but I have a half acre rural lot with a trailer parked on it, kind of our little vacation spot. Anyway, the guy with the lot next to mine put his up for sale. I don't usually like to take on debt, but I bought it with a five-year secured loan because I'm betting on persistant inflation above the fed target and the increasing value of the land will far outpace the interest and now I have a full acre. I'm not talking fuck off money here. I don't live in Toronto. It was under $20k.

You may hate me, but to powerlevel, my land, house included, was just over 3k an acre.

How do people even live in Canadia?

 

[Never Scored]

You may hate me, but to powerlevel, my land, house included, was just over 3k an acre.

How do people even live in Canadia?

My original half acre was just $4k. Not as cheap as yours, but not bad. Real estate prices have gone retarded in Canada, even in far flung sparsely populated regions like mine. Rich Chinese people are laundering money into the big cities like Toronto to get the wealth offshore so the communist government can't get it, and with remote work normalized all the white collar city people are fleeing for places like Atlantic Canada and the prairies and driving up prices across the board.

 

[Aqua Panda]

Eight an hour is Sandwich Artist money.

My brother basically said this when he got the third $8 offer. He's currently really is employed by McDonalds and has worked there all 4 years of college part time. He hasn't handed in notice yet because he is still job hunting and doesn't want to be stuck with no job while looking for work.

He literally told the last guy that he'd be taking a pay cut to come work full-time for him versus his part-time McDonald's job that pays better. The recruiter just kept saying, "...but it's McDonald's, we are the real deal."

Whole lot of businesses are going to have to find out that they have to compete in the job market. You attract talent with good pay and benefits. Incentavizing people to come work for them.

 

[Sped Xing]

My original half acre was just $4k. Not as cheap as yours, but not bad. Real estate prices have gone retarded in Canada, even in far flung sparsely populated regions like mine. Rich Chinese people are laundering money into the big cities like Toronto to get the wealth offshore so the communist government can't get it, and with remote work normalized all the white collar city people are fleeing for places like Atlantic Canada and the prairies and driving up prices across the board.

Oh, yeah. Similar things are afoot in Texas, but instead of chinks, it's Californians and Rustbelters.

That's way worse. Pray for us.

 

[Rei is shit]

Odd things are missing in the store, and most shelves seem to have only a few items pushed up to the front. There is now a limit of 2 per customer for folgers coffee - but only the big containers. I'm also noticing that expiration dates seem really soon on a lot of things.

On the plus size a gallon of milk is now down to 3.50 form a high of 4. It was ~2.35 a year ago.

Or you are part of the gang and heavily armed that helps too . I mean how long before local gangbangers descent to the rural areas for pillaging.

I think you should read up how was like during Weimar hyperinflation . Cities raiding villages and villages buckling up

How will gangs get anywhere without gas?

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Odd things are missing in the store, and most shelves seem to have only a few items pushed up to the front. There is now a limit of 2 per customer for folgers coffee - but only the big containers. I'm also noticing that expiration dates seem really soon on a lot of things.

On the plus size a gallon of milk is now down to 3.50 form a high of 4. It was ~2.35 a year ago.



How will gangs get anywhere without gas?

They will steal it from others or a refinery will be siezed.

Look at Northern Syria. Petty Criminal enterprises took over the supply chain quickly with no experience in the industry at all.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

People have mentioned expiration dates, they're appearing on things that don't normally have them and they're shorter than usual on things that usually do have them.

What does this mean? A shortage of preservatives and a change in recipes? Less thoroughly processed foods? Subpar raw ingredients? Just social engineering to prevent long term hoarding so people will buy less at once?

 

[Meat Target]

How will gangs get anywhere without gas?

Stealing bikes

 

[Coolio55]

To answer my own question a while back about how McDonalds etc are going to get meat:
https://www.the-sun.com/money/3863742/mcdonalds-mcplant-burger-november-list-available/ (https://archive.is/cJgKq)

The answer was in front of us the whole time...

If you have kids it's nice to be able to hand them the thing they wanted. Like, I feel everyone saying consoomerism is bad and you should give someone something you lovingly made yourself for them, but try telling an autistic kid that the legos that are the only thing they asked for are clearly inferior to the wooden pony you spent hours crafting or whatever.

I'd feel differently if it were July and people were buying toys, but it's pretty obvious Christmas is fucked and I don't personally wish a shitty Christmas on any kid.

But I also feel the people who think worrying about Christmas gifts is lame 'cause I'll admit I haven't gotten any of the adults I know presents due to what's going on and if that means I have to make my mom a macaroni duck or something then so be it.

Just realized that if this goes on for a while my future kids will have to play computer games that I made.

...just kidding, I've got loads of roms! Their future development is saved.

 

[Sped Xing]

How will gangs get anywhere without gas?

They'll use horses. That's why I ate all the ivermectin-- their horses will be slow due to high parasite loads.

 

[Hippopatumus]

We're not getting hyperinflation, but I am betting on 4-5% year over year for the next couple of years.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

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Kek

Why does that chart stop in January

I just looked for an updated version and they said they no longer chart M-1 money supply

Wonder what it looks like now

 

[Art Kassul]

Ultimately, if someone wants your stuff badly enough, they're going to get it. That said, I'm replacing the front door, hardware, and framing. Also installing good-quality security film on my windows. I have some interior lights on a dumb (not on the internet) timer with a randomization function.

Unfortunately, I think that lights, cameras, window bars, etc are likely both a waste of time and a tip-off to would-be thieves that you have something worth protecting.

I'm pretty sure all my neighbors think we're just barely hanging on, and I'd like to keep it that way. It's going to be a lot longer before anyone thinks they want MY stuff. We also didn't tell anyone that our batshit crazy dog died.

Kickdoor burlgars in my area don't tend to think like that. They're not smart, they're brash and somewhat desperate. They will break into anywhere as long as they can get in, not caring if people are home or awake or not. Many like to go door to door down the street. They don't discriminate on targets much.

IMO better to have extra security in place, as the burglars you have to worry about cutting your throat and raping your kids as you bleed out aren't going to be performing the calculus you're ascribing to them.