Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

That's what the staff at Cook Children's say. In Tinslee's case, it probably isn't just pooping that kills her, though. From what I understand, any kind of external stimulus (repositioning her in bed to prevent decubitus ulcers, suctioning her trach, administering medication) causes Tinslee to code. Reportedly, her catastrophic brain damage has also resulted in severe, deforming joint contractures. Nurses have to use a ton of force to physically make her hips and legs bend when changing her diaper. It's so upsetting for them that many refuse to be involved in her care, and those who do apologize to her the entire time they're doing it. :heart-empty:
Are those union nurses? I wonder if they could sue as a group for PTSD or something? Even if just as a stunt to put this kid out of its misery already.

Had family do nursing in a peds psych hospital. It's been years but it seemed there were different rules for nurses there as far as opting out of a specific patients care (a safety thing is my understanding, whereas in typical hospital that is harder to do, but that may have changed latelyq) and they were compensated well in salary but all of them regardless of seniority had to trade off nights wknds holidays . I think back then 5yrs was average before leaving, and then u had the old coots who had been there forever. Also a lot of dl drug use by nurses to cope but still be able to do their job.
 
That's what the staff at Cook Children's say. In Tinslee's case, it probably isn't just pooping that kills her, though. From what I understand, any kind of external stimulus (repositioning her in bed to prevent decubitus ulcers, suctioning her trach, administering medication) causes Tinslee to code. Reportedly, her catastrophic brain damage has also resulted in severe, deforming joint contractures. Nurses have to use a ton of force to physically make her hips and legs bend when changing her diaper. It's so upsetting for them that many refuse to be involved in her care, and those who do apologize to her the entire time they're doing it. :heart-empty:

Does she really code though? Cuz from what I understand coming back from a code isn’t something that happens often let alone mutiple times a day, day in and day out. It doesn’t medically make sense to me.

You’re usually on point with the medical stuff so maybe I do have it wrong. I though it causes her respiratory distress/desaturation.
 
can confirm. (PL)
as someone misdiagnosed with the tism before the dsm-5 was published being in sped was a fucking nightmare. the staff would genuinely beat and abuse the children and i was one of them on multiple occasions. they wonder why kids like this freak out despite being stuck in a classroom full of screeching tards all day. in my 3rd-5th grade class the two downies were treated like actual objects.
declaring its a powerful level doesnt exempt you from the no power level rule you dumb autist
 
That's what the staff at Cook Children's say. In Tinslee's case, it probably isn't just pooping that kills her, though. From what I understand, any kind of external stimulus (repositioning her in bed to prevent decubitus ulcers, suctioning her trach, administering medication) causes Tinslee to code. Reportedly, her catastrophic brain damage has also resulted in severe, deforming joint contractures. Nurses have to use a ton of force to physically make her hips and legs bend when changing her diaper. It's so upsetting for them that many refuse to be involved in her care, and those who do apologize to her the entire time they're doing it. :heart-empty:
Rate me dumb or late, but what does Tinslee suffer from? I admit that I am a bit too squeamish to search the thread, what I've seen on the first few pages was enough.

It sounds rather improbable to me that she codes on every external stimulus, but I can imagine that she loses consciousness. Maybe I have my terminology wrong, though.
 
Rate me dumb or late, but what does Tinslee suffer from? I admit that I am a bit too squeamish to search the thread, what I've seen on the first few pages was enough.

It sounds rather improbable to me that she codes on every external stimulus, but I can imagine that she loses consciousness. Maybe I have my terminology wrong, though.

Ebstein’s anomaly. She has to have a vent and relies on life support and she’s always sedated but not unconscious.
 
Rate me dumb or late, but what does Tinslee suffer from? I admit that I am a bit too squeamish to search the thread, what I've seen on the first few pages was enough.

It sounds rather improbable to me that she codes on every external stimulus, but I can imagine that she loses consciousness. Maybe I have my terminology wrong, though.
"She was born with a rare heart defect called an Ebstein’s anomaly and has undergone several complex surgeries at Cook Children’s in an effort to improve her heart function. Further complicating matters, she also suffers from chronic lung disease and severe chronic pulmonary hypertension."

"She requires significant sedation to help prevent a pulmonary hypertensive crisis, which can be brought on by even minor agitation."

"T.L’s multiple diseases cause life-threatening problems. Almost every day, and often multiples times a day, T.L. has a “dying event” that mandates aggressive medical intervention. These dying events are typically brought on by agitation and can be triggered by routine CICU care such as a daily chest x-ray or respiratory treatment, or even routine baby care such as a diaper change. Sometimes they occur for no apparent reason."

" Because T.L. cannot sufficiently oxygenate her body on her own, she has spent most of her life sedated and paralyzed in order to limit the amount of oxygen her body has to expend to keep her alive. This treatment – which I understand the court has ordered that we continue – has caused T.L.’s body to significantly deteriorate. T.L.’s limbs have become severely contracted. She has developed irreversible drop foot. She is now locked into a “frog-legged” position, and her hips cannot rotate or bend. When I try to draw T.L.’s knees together for therapy, it causes her significant pain. This contracture is so severe that it is impossible for some nurses to change her diaper without assistance, because they cannot grasp her ankles with one hand. We have placed splints on T.L.’s hands to prevent her from making fists.

Because of her treatment, T.L. has never eaten solid food. As a result, her teeth have been unable to erupt normally. She has only one or two teeth. Teeth that cannot erupt have caused cysts and pustules that rupture and bleed.

Her treatment has caused other issues: T.L.’s stomach is swollen with fluid. It is the size of a bowling ball—very abnormal on an 18-month-old toddler. She has significant cyanosis of her extremities. As a result, her skin in those areas is a blue-purple tint and is often mottled.

Because T.L. is isolated—alone 99% of the time (except for medical staff)—afraid, and in pain, I always talk to her when I am caring for her. When I perform a routine neurological assessment, T.L.’s pupils are reactive but she cannot track and follow movement. However, when I touch her, she jolts—her eyes wide—and is panicked, anxious, and agitated. The first thing I say is always, “I’m sorry,” because I know I am causing her pain by touching her. Tears run down her cheeks, but due to the paralytics she is on, her face cannot contort, and she cannot actively cry. If her pain persists, we give her additional medication to try and alleviate this discomfort. "

Here's all the legal data on her:
https://www.thaddeuspope.com/medicalfutility/tinsleelewis.html

Court documents show medical proof that she dies multiple time a day.

Here is her medical breakdown from the case:
  • Tinslee is in dire condition.
    • Because she cannot properly oxygenate her blood, Tinslee is kept on a ventilator, has three tubes down her nose, has multiple intravenous lines for the administration of medication, and is permanently attached to four additional machines to monitor various biological functions. She is swollen and carries more than two liters of fluid. Tinslee requires more than a dozen medications daily. To keep her alive, doctors and nurses must keep her on a constant stream of painkillers, sedatives, and paralytics. As a result, Tinslee is pharmacologically paralyzed at all times. Tinslee’s current appearance is very unlike the smiling days of her first months.
  • Medical treatment is futile.
    • Tinslee cannot be cured or her condition treated. She has months to live. Even with medication and support, Tinslee has “dying events” 2-3 times per day. When she is in distress, Tinslee crashes and medical intervention is immediately necessary. While the exact treatment varies, it includes at least repeated forceful manual inflation of her lungs combined with various IV medications. A nurse must stay in her room with her 24-hours a day to monitor her vital signs. As Dr. Duncan testified, providers can no longer do anything for Tinslee; all treatment now is simply done to her.
  • Life-sustaining intervention causes Tinslee to suffer, with no hope of recovery.
    • As Dr. Duncan and Ms. Lane testified, Tinslee is suffering and in constant pain. The fact that her brain and limbs are healthy makes her situation even more excruciating, as Tinslee is aware of her situation, can feel pain, and would like to be active. Forcing her to lay still, paralyzed and sedated, is – while necessary to keep her alive – simply cruel. The medical treatment itself is causing Tinslee to suffer. Every time that Tinslee receives treatment – whether medication, an examination, or simply a readjustment of her position to prevent bed sores – she reacts to the touching as pain. Many times, the stress that such treatment brings causes Tinslee to crash. The doctors have all stated that continuing to treat Tinslee violates their Hippocratic Oath as they are hurting her for no medical benefit; rather than violate their ethics, as is their legal right,4 numerous nurses at Cook Children’s have simply refused to care for Tinslee.
  • No other hospital or doctor will agree to treat Tinslee.
    • Although Cook Children’s has spoken with dozens of hospitals and doctors about Tinslee, no one has disagreed with their diagnosis and no one has been willing to treat her. Even with the active phone tree of multiple volunteers provided by Texas Right to Life and Texas Fragile Kids, no healthcare provider has come forth. Indeed, just a few days after the hearing ended, Boston Children’s hospital formally declined to accept Tinslee as a transfer.
 
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Thank you, especially @GenociderSyo , for the in-depth explanation. That's a disease I've never heard about before (I do not work in the medical field though), but it certainly explains why she codes on every external stimulus. Holy shit. This makes me MATI. Tinslee should be allowed to die. This is no life, it's neverending suffering, and unlike babies with severe brain defects (anencephaly or alobar holoprosencephaly), she is aware of her suffering, despite being sedated to such a great extent.
 
I don't know how anyone can look at the tinslee case and go "let her live." And didn't pro lifers have her mother around their finger due to lack of education?
Anyway that baby is literally turning blue, can't be touched and can't even cry. I hope she wins her case and can just pass. I hope anyone who had to work on the case is able to get help and her mother as well.
 
I don't know how anyone can look at the tinslee case and go "let her live." And didn't pro lifers have her mother around their finger due to lack of education?
Anyway that baby is literally turning blue, can't be touched and can't even cry. I hope she wins her case and can just pass. I hope anyone who had to work on the case is able to get help and her mother as well.
So far case was taken up as high as it can and the Texas Pro Life has won every time to keep her alive. Not sure where they can go next.
 
I don't know how anyone can look at the tinslee case and go "let her live." And didn't pro lifers have her mother around their finger due to lack of education?
Anyway that baby is literally turning blue, can't be touched and can't even cry. I hope she wins her case and can just pass. I hope anyone who had to work on the case is able to get help and her mother as well.

She also has had sepsis. I don’t know how such a medically fragile child has survived that. A newer article has also stated she has been weaned off paralytics and is “improving” according to the mom. However I doubt this is true. You can’t just recover from a terminal illness and without having moved or developed like a normal kid, she would be a mess physically and I wouldn’t be surprised if she isn’t at least partially brain damaged due to whatever episodes she has during the day in response to diaper changes and whatever.
 
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I don't know how anyone can look at the tinslee case and go "let her live." And didn't pro lifers have her mother around their finger due to lack of education?
Anyway that baby is literally turning blue, can't be touched and can't even cry. I hope she wins her case and can just pass. I hope anyone who had to work on the case is able to get help and her mother as well.
Don't you know? Tinslee is actually doing incredibly well and those doctors and nurses are lying because they want to kill a beautiful black baby.
 
I hope she


She also has had sepsis. I don’t know how such a medically fragile child has survived that. A newer article has also stated she has been weaned off paralytics and is “improving” according to the mom. However I doubt this is true. You can’t just recover from a terminal illness and without having moved or developed like a normal kid, she would be a mess physically and I wouldn’t be surprised if she isn’t at least partially brain damaged due to whatever episodes she has during the day in response to diaper changes and whatever.
Reportedly, her catastrophic brain damage has also resulted in severe, deforming joint contractures.
Yup she's definitely brain damaged. All this hypoxic crap has got to hurt her brain. She has purple hands and feet all the time that are mottled like a corpse.
Trinity Lewis, made public statements regarding her daughter’s medical condition. She highlighted the lack of evidence
Awwww shite, we got Science Shiniqua here.
Unlike some other cases we’ve seen, where families fight to retain treatment for children after brain or clinical death has been determined (still questionable in some cases), Tinslee is responsive to the presence of those she recognizes and is very much alive.
Brain death isn't real guise. That's as stupid as the ppl who don't believe in germ theory.
Finding a balance between a family’s right to direct end-of-life care for fragile loved ones and a medical professional’s right to legally practice medicine within the confines of his moral codes has proven to be almost impossible while the law is in place.
Them: Doctors should have a right to refuse care based on their right to conscience
Tinselee's Nurses: It is against our conscience to torture a toddler to keep her alive
Them: Noooooo not like that! We only meant on birth control and abortion!
 
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Yup she's definitely brain damaged. All this hypoxic crap has got to hurt her brain. She has purple hands and feet all the time that are mottled like a corpse.


Awwww shite, we got Science Shiniqua here.

Brain death isn't real guise. That's as stupid as the ppl who don't believe in germ theory.

Them: Doctors should have a right to refuse care based on their right to conscience
Tinselee's Nurses: It is against our conscience to torture a toddler to keep her alive
Them: Noooooo not like that! We only meant on birth control and abortion!
I have to wonder if Mama Nails Junior gets a tugboat,even though her baby has never been home?
Why is she so intent on torturing her baby????
 
Does she really code though? Cuz from what I understand coming back from a code isn’t something that happens often let alone mutiple times a day, day in and day out. It doesn’t medically make sense to me.

You’re usually on point with the medical stuff so maybe I do have it wrong. I though it causes her respiratory distress/desaturation.
Unfortunately, the court documents suggest I'm correct. An appellate brief filed in the Texas Second Court of Appeals last year says, "Almost every day, and often multiple times a day, T.L. has a 'dying event' that mandates aggressive medical intervention. These dying events are typically brought on byagitation and can be triggered by routine CICU care such as a daily chest x-ray or respiratory treatment, or even routine baby care such as a diaper change. Sometimes they occur for no apparent reason."

The brief also goes on to describe how CICU personnel must use "extraordinary pressures" when manually inflating Tinslee's lungs, likely because there is so much fibrosis from long-term artificial ventilation and these daily resuscitation events that it's almost impossible to force air into them. Lung disease this severe is often fatal on its own; combined with her heart defects and the neurological effects of chronic hypoxia, Tinslee will not ever recover.

The same brief also explains that nurse to patient ratios in the Cook Children's CICU are 1:1 or 1:2, with nurses constantly supervising their patients. In Tinslee's case, not even 1:1 care is sufficient to keep her alive, and staff must follow special procedures for her care "because even a simple touch can trigger a dying event."

I wish I had been wrong on this one.
 
Unfortunately, the court documents suggest I'm correct. An appellate brief filed in the Texas Second Court of Appeals last year says, "Almost every day, and often multiple times a day, T.L. has a 'dying event' that mandates aggressive medical intervention. These dying events are typically brought on byagitation and can be triggered by routine CICU care such as a daily chest x-ray or respiratory treatment, or even routine baby care such as a diaper change. Sometimes they occur for no apparent reason."

The brief also goes on to describe how CICU personnel must use "extraordinary pressures" when manually inflating Tinslee's lungs, likely because there is so much fibrosis from long-term artificial ventilation and these daily resuscitation events that it's almost impossible to force air into them. Lung disease this severe is often fatal on its own; combined with her heart defects and the neurological effects of chronic hypoxia, Tinslee will not ever recover.

The same brief also explains that nurse to patient ratios in the Cook Children's CICU are 1:1 or 1:2, with nurses constantly supervising their patients. In Tinslee's case, not even 1:1 care is sufficient to keep her alive, and staff must follow special procedures for her care "because even a simple touch can trigger a dying event."

I wish I had been wrong on this one.

Right, I know she’s terminal, can never get better, has issues after issue and so on but coding every day, multiple times a day, day in and day out requiring what I can only assume is bagging whenever this happens. Not only is this terrible to Tinslee, but the staff. CPR and bagging and other aggressive interventions are exhausting to have to do.
 
I'm all for Tinslee's uterus donor bringing her home too. Doing so will lead to her quick, hopefully merciful death.
Odd thing is though she states she wants this the hospital itself has said that they rarely visist Tinslee back when they were allowed to talk about it. The mother made them stop giving updates when they weren't all positive things.
 
Right, I know she’s terminal, can never get better, has issues after issue and so on but coding every day, multiple times a day, day in and day out requiring what I can only assume is bagging whenever this happens. Not only is this terrible to Tinslee, but the staff. CPR and bagging and other aggressive interventions are exhausting to have to do.
Yes, my understanding is that they bag her multiple times per day.

I'm wondering if they call a code every time. If so, can you imagine being a parent or family member of another child on the unit? Tearing yourself away from your kid's bedside to take a shower for the first time in days or grab a cup of coffee, only to hear a code being called to the CICU? I'm sure you'd find yourself hoping it wasn't for your child, which is basically the same thing as hoping it's someone else's kid.

The other parents, especially of frequent flyers or long-term patients, have to hate Trinity Lewis.
 
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