Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[Blasterisk]

Inflation exists and eventually wages would have to catch up to justify people getting out of the dole. We could argue against it back in 2015 as a stupid mandate but with how fucked the economy just got and how much everything has accelerated with regards to inflation, we can’t easily justify not raising wages anymore.

minimum wage should be like $3 an hour and you should be able to buy things that don't break with it

 

[Evo]

I’m legitimately surprised by the number of people here who think no-skill workers who can barely read deserve upwards of $15/hour.

They deserve a fair wage that corresponds to their labor, lol - it's not as if the minimum wage market is solely maintained by teenagers and morons; no, there's a litany of veterans, old folk (often due to low social security and pension benefits provided by their state governments and institutions), etc. in the service industry too and you'd tell them they don't deserve a livable wage because they don't have much skill yet their work partially keeps your ass breathing and keeps food in your pantry; if you don't mind a collapsing service industry, that's fine, but be prepared to deal with the consequences of a collapsed service industry too lol.

Being able to insulate yourself from the problems of society is nice, but it doesn't do anything but make you look fucking exceptionally goofy and out-of-touch with issues half the time; have you even done the math for the minimum wage industry and actual teenagers? You realize there's more minimum wage jobs in this country than teenagers, right? Issues with wages all across various industries (including EMT's, who are struggling with low pay in some Southern states for example) leak out to the service industry, leading more and more people to have less and less opportunity in a tightening market with inflationary rates - some of those people end up filtered into the service industry, too; there are worse examples of things like pharmaceutical technicians being paid less than, say, a manager at a place like Sheetz (a gas station): some technicians in some Southern states are paid around $13-$16 - by contrast, the supervisor of a gas station is paid around $17.50. Just causes more folk to leak into the service industry - your notion that everyone in the service industry is there just because they're unskilled is fucking hilarious - were the veterans that landed themselves there due to poor reception coming home unskilled? Were the old folks that worked their entire lives into the system only to be paid back absolute fucking pennies unskilled? By the way, pharmacy tech is considered a low-skilled job.

Service industry continues to grow, in addition, and the teenage population does not come even close to matching it, lol.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

minimum wage should be like $3 an hour and you should be able to buy things that don't break with it

I don’t disagree in the slightest with that, I just know it won’t happen unless we get a river of blood.

 

[Sped Xing]

There is no fair. People deserve that which they can take and keep.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

There is no fair. People deserve that which they can take and keep.

exactly. anyone else see that texas asshole that spends $16K a month on a nanny but complains he can't find someone willing to do hard manual labor for $14/hr so he as to do it himself?

just because charts prove wages should wise doesn't mean business owners agree. look at the lolcows here and think about how many have a much higher expectation of their sexual market value than they're worth. now realize its similar to what a lot of especially small business owners have on the brain. "Goddammit this job pays $8/hr, guys that look like the rock should be lining up to take this job doing it with a smile on their face, back in my day......"

Its why corporations are able to raise wages so quickly and efficiently than these ma+pa set ups. the numbers help against the biases. Having said that i've been looking at areas with $15+ minimum wage, and seeing if any places are offering $21+entry level, so far no real movers. i've noticed from deliveryapp people that their cut from the apps seems to have gone up, but outside of that no one consistently making that much. noticed a few job postings from guys i follow on twitter too, but its factory work in middle of nowhere areas, i'm not spending a winter in Milwaukee to make $27 an hour. Also with the way shits going it won't be long before those upper level jobs come down to the rest of us. Surprised the port unions aren't hiring like mad. beyond that i know UPS's holiday delivery is now up to like $26 an hour for seasonal help if you can get it. its a lot more than amazon will pay out, but the hours are wonky as shit, good luck on making 160hours in december.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Inflation exists and eventually wages would have to catch up to justify people getting out of the dole. We could argue against it back in 2015 as a stupid mandate but with how fucked the economy just got and how much everything has accelerated with regards to inflation, we can’t easily justify not raising wages anymore.

I make higher than minimum wage working the lowest rung job in the company I work in and quite frankly half the lazy retards I work with don't deserve the 13/Hr we get much less another 2.

 

[George Lucas]

Look at this rube who thinks you get full time hours at those jobs.


Right, but what people are arguing is we are in an inflationary scenario where the federal government is printing money, there is a labour shortage and so the market can bear more. Indeed, the big corporations who know how the market works seem to be giving people increases in wages, McDonald's in my area are hiring people for $14.25/hour. The people offering someone $8/hr in our current environment are just boomers who can't get over a mental block.

At the end of the day you can argue all you want about what people deserve, but if a person can't cover rent and groceries working full time, they're just not going to work. If a business does not have employees it will cease to operate. So if you want to keep your business going and you can't find employees, you have to pay those people sitting at home enough to motivate them come work for you or you have to close due to a labour shortage. That's how the market works.

The business doesn’t have to cease, and that’s exactly what we’re seeing in real time. Businesses are cutting various corners to keep they’re business open while keeping their labor costs low. It’s exactly why we won’t see a doomsday economic collapse like all these prepniggers are hoping for, but rather a slow, painful shift into a different type of economy where working-class wages don’t exist whatsoever and you live off the state unless you’re high value enough to get a higher paying job, all because of some stimulus and fear over a virus nobody can prove to me even exists.

People have been saying for years that the ‘rubber band’ on wages is going to snap. The market has naturally found just about every way to avoid that snap.

 

[jje100010001]

Interesting 4Chin thread for the uninitiated who haven't been following closely (i.e. me):

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Some points made:

Amazon has their own ships, their own containers, and unloads in Houston.

The issue is trucking, not ports. And specifically, California trucking with their new green regulations and AB-5 banning owner operators.

The California Version of The Green New Deal and an October 16, 2020, EPA Settlement With Transportation is What's Creating The Container Shipping Backlog - Working CA Ports 24/7 Will Not Help, Here's Why - The Last Refuge

Hundreds of requests for details on the specifics of the container shipping backlog. So, I spent 3 days calling sources, digging for details and gathering information on the substantive issue at hand. The epicenter of the problem is not what is being outlined by financial media, corporate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Watch the video there and see that Amazon has known this was coming for a while. So have the other corporate giants like FedEx, Walshart and others.

>Wtf initially caused the backlog OP?
California, in their infinite wisdom, decided to arbitrarily ban Class 8 trucks older than three years. That cut the number of trucks in the port to shuttle containers from the ship to the train in half. Then they decided, again in their infinite wisdom, to enact rules that make it impossible for owner operators to drive in CA and pick up containers. OOs are the guys that own their truck and have their own authority to be a common carrier. They are a majority of the truck drivers out there. So now, all you have are company drivers with not even half the fleet available. It's a complete shit show.

>When do you think a full on depression level event will go down?
Here is what I know: transportation leads the general economy by 12-18 months. Right now, it is almost impossible to build a new truck. Bodies and chassis are being built, but one company is rebuilding old transmissions to put in new trucks because they can't get transmission control units for the new ones. That's how desperate they are to sell new Class 8 trucks. The mega carriers turn their fleet over every three to five years. They will hold on to what they have which means OOs can't get decent used units. The truck supply will dwindle. I am thinking if it doesn't get better 24 months max.

The only way to bypass the backlog at the container terminals is to hire geared small container ships that held self offloading capabilities. Those can put containers directly onto a truck without needing the ports cranes and so a different dock is available for those ships.

From what I heard its several things. From bills that have been passed in California that strips away independent business owners in the trucking world. Heard that China is hoarding all the containers. The container ship backlog and all the containers on those ships that have not been processed. Covid protocols that decimated several industries including the longshoremen. Flipping the table and trying to pick up pieces after seizing time during a global pandemic is hard to turn over. Printing of the USD and the valuation of the dollar being less. Numerous people quitting and leaving their jobs.

>spend thirty or 40 years turning everything into an extremely thin and long supply chain for small profit gains
>only works in absolute perfect conditions
>greedy elite that set this up decide to just fucking kick the system in the nuts over a flu
>world system collapses

Guess it's not dissimilar to the New York MTA troubles a few years ago, where accumulated neglect, and state meddling and underfunding finally blossomed into persistent delays and unreliable service.

The eco-terrorists and subhuman communist filth that control the effective rogue nation that is the Peoples "Democratic" California Republic are primarily responsible:

Empty Christmas Stockings? Don't Blame COVID, Blame California | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The California Version of The Green New Deal and an October 16, 2020, EPA Settlement With Transportation is What's Creating The Container Shipping Backlog - Working CA Ports 24/7 Will Not Help, Here's Why - The Last Refuge

Hundreds of requests for details on the specifics of the container shipping backlog. So, I spent 3 days calling sources, digging for details and gathering information on the substantive issue at hand. The epicenter of the problem is not what is being outlined by financial media, corporate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Much like their failures to expand their reservoirs and otherwise properly manage their water resources over a four-decade period which has seen their population double, and much like their abject failure to properly manage their land and utilities which has been the biggest contributor to their wildfire problem, they're now creating another problem in an effort to bring down the entire nation.

California is increasingly too dangerous a state to keep intact as-is. It fundamentally needs to be broken into two or three states lest the rest of the US succumb to their mad attempts to throw their weight around.

 

[tehpope]

From @Carlos Danger in the biden thread.

 

[Simple Moving Average]

Kek

Why does that chart stop in January

I just looked for an updated version and they said they no longer chart M-1 money supply

Wonder what it looks like now

You really, really don't want to know.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

From @Carlos Danger in the biden thread.

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Not to be a debunker, but I'm pretty sure that's just a planogram. You use them to show what the layout of the shelf is supposed to look like before you stock it.

I'm not saying stores wouldn't use them to cover up barren shelves, but I do think it would pretty odd for them to suddenly start doing that after over a year of people being used to that sort of thing.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Interesting 4Chin thread for the uninitiated who haven't been following closely (i.e. me):

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Some points made:

Wasn't DeSantis trying to make deals with shipping companies to use Florida ports? I mean I know it's political grandstanding on his part, but this does seem like a decision that could massively fuck over California as a shipping hub. Is the policy in Oregon or Washington as bad yet (okay, we know they always follow Commiefornia's lead, but still)? They have a few container ports too and there's probably a way for transportation industry lobbyists there to convince enough state Democrats not to follow California's example, write exemptions for shipping and trucking, and enjoy getting thousands of new (union) jobs.

But maybe I'm thinking too intelligently since that sort of Democrat is pretty much extinct outside of a few Southern/Midwestern Democrats who forgot to switch their party affiliation to RINO.

California is increasingly too dangerous a state to keep intact as-is. It fundamentally needs to be broken into two or three states lest the rest of the US succumb to their mad attempts to throw their weight around.

Then we'd get two nicely gerrymandered states anchored by LA and San Francisco respectively.

 

[Tour of Italy]

So a family member just messaged our family group chat with: "We should do our secret Santa drawing early so that we can make sure the gifts make it in time!"

Homie, I don't know if that's what you should be prioritizing now. I want my Christmas present to be you not messing around with Christmas presents and instead buying yourself a case of canned food and a half dozen value sized diaper boxes.

 

[jje100010001]

Then we'd get two nicely gerrymandered states anchored by LA and San Francisco respectively.

Of course, which is why I said 2 or more. It ultimately depends on where the splits are made.

I.e. California + Jefferson, or SoCal + NoCal+ Jefferson.

You are right though that if such a process ensures, there's going to be massive attempts at gerrymandering, or attempts to mess around with other states.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Interesting 4Chin thread for the uninitiated who haven't been following closely (i.e. me):

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Some points made:






Guess it's not dissimilar to the New York MTA troubles a few years ago, where accumulated neglect, and state meddling and underfunding finally blossomed into persistent delays and unreliable service.


California is increasingly too dangerous a state to keep intact as-is. It fundamentally needs to be broken into two or three states lest the rest of the US succumb to their mad attempts to throw their weight around.

California is a rogue nation-state.

Change my mind.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

SoCal + NoCal+ Jefferson.

So Sacramento, San Fran, and LA. Okay then.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Of course, which is why I said 2 or more. It ultimately depends on where the splits are made.

I.e. California + Jefferson, or SoCal + NoCal+ Jefferson.

You are right though that if such a process ensures, there's going to be massive attempts at gerrymandering, or attempts to mess around with other states.

No Cal, So Cal, then we glass San-Fran and LA>

 

[DavidS877]

So Sacramento, San Fran, and LA. Okay then.

Nah, Jefferson doesn't start until Red Bluff or so.

Personally I want to sell Portland to California where it belongs though.

 

[benutz]

I don’t disagree in the slightest with that, I just know it won’t happen unless we get a river of blood.

Funnily enough, I was watching those fucking spastics over at arrse argue about the new MP being killed outrage. Someone posted a comment saying it was far worse than what Enoch imagined. Him with his 'Rivers of Blood' speech, of course.

Here is the video. No sound.

It's not Enoch of course, but I'd be grateful if anyone who knows could tell me who this is and what the context is. I think it's probably taken some time after Enoch's speech.

Here is the Rivers of Blood speech for anyone interested:

https://anth1001.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/enoch-powell_speech.pdf

In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man."

I can already hear the chorus of execration. How dare I say such a horrible thing? How dare I stir up trouble and inflame feelings by repeating such a conversation?

The answer is that I do not have the right not to do so. Here is a decent, ordinary fellow

Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that
his country will not be worth living in for his children.


Good luck in finding the video of this in full. I'd also appreciate it if you have it to put it up with a link. I couldn't find it after 20 minutes. My cutoff point.

I'm not even proselytizing Enoch's viewpoint.

It's interesting that we can have transcripts of the words. Just like that unknown video I posted earlier. The guy seems as if he would talk with a fairly educated voice and that would be dangerous. Just like they have cut out the tongue from Powell.

The British Government did this when the IRA were on air, in the form of making Gerry Adams have a funny helium voice. I'm not advocating for Adams. What I think of him is not the point here. But to let a man have his own words, spoken in real time, well, that is something that can not be allowed when the words are powerful, no matter how comedic the voice of the original speaker. It's another way of cutting out the tongue...

Here is the Rivers of Blood transcript again - https://anth1001.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/enoch-powell_speech.pdf

And talking of cutting out people's tongues, those fucking spastics at arrse have really gone to town. It's the same 2 dozen players arguing among themselves, using big words in the Current Affairs part of the forum, then telling other people to 'JKYS' in the arrse hole. They are no worse than Kiwi Farms. In fact, they are worse, because they pretend to uphold some kind of greater moral authority, where as here, we know it's dog eat dog, every man for himself, no honour among thieves.

In fact, someone did end up killing themselves over at arrse and fingers are being pointed. I doubt anyone has the balls to make an OP thread about them, but the cunts deserve it. I don't have the balls. They are too linked to glowie shit. But still, the levels they have fallen to after not reading the site for just a year or two is fucking shocking. They really are a bunch of cunts. I'll say that much.

Anyways, Rivers of blood.

Never mind my bullshit. Just watch that video if nothing else. He sums it up in one good go IMHO.

 

[T0oCoolFool]

I'm going to have to get a second job if these food prices keep going up. Starting to get p nervous with the cost of everything going up.

Also, I'm having the hardest time finding paper towels. There weren't any at Walmart or Sams. Seems like there's plenty of toilet paper this time around, but no paper towels.

(Live in the South)