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I wonder something... While this thread is mostly about funny delusional troons.

There's another type that got mentioned time to time... Why is there so many sunk cost troons who finally recognised that they're just fetishists or trooned out because of some bullshit reason, regretting it, Some even warn others to not go their dark path. but still trying to keep the act up.

They realised how damaging to others and themselves they've been to chase their impossible dream. Yet they're still utilising the last bit of their delusion to detach themselves to keep the lie going instead of coming to term to truly accept themselves?... The type of troon that is "so close, yet so far".. why do we have them?

It is like being a drug addict that tells kid to not do drug but they're still doing it by themselves everyday until they die of OD. This is what I think when we talk about 'sane' troons here. (And being self aware doesn't mean they stop doing coombrain shit)
You’re pretty much spot on here. As a kid I had plenty of smokers tell me not to start smoking. And fat people will tell you not to get fat. It’s easier to recognize your addiction logically than it is to break it.
 
I think both AGPs and Aidens are to some extent using a pre-existing sexual interest or fetish as a way to dissociate and mentally escape from themselves and whatever past trauma and/or current problems they have, which is why misgendering, or anything else that interrupts the dissociation, can be experienced as genuine trauma (note: I am not taking the troon side on misgendering here; it is not society's responsibility to validate people's dissociative states at all costs).

Definitely for the Aidens. Ftm is a completely different thing to typical Mtf troonery, looks like it's less fetishistic and pornified and more about emotional trauma, (nonsexual) mental illness and anxiety.

I don't think the classic AGP (usually middle aged men who've successfully fathered children, held down jobs and been considered masculine men) is dissociative in a clinical sense, tho they may get there (trooning out is extremely bad for mental health).

The Blanchard taxonomy needs updating, because it's not just HSTS (feminine gay guys) and AGP (masculine 'lesbians' or bi guys) anymore. The Hearts of Iron or speedrunning troon is another category of its own - poorly socialized, somewhat autistic young men who share a lot of the same interests as classic AGPs, but are usually social outcasts before trooning out and can be seen as failed men trying to escape themselves.

Thankfully the Kiwi Farms Institute For Curing Troons And Other Retards has the solution.

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Definitely for the Aidens. Ftm is a completely different thing to typical Mtf troonery, looks like it's less fetishistic and pornified and more about emotional trauma, (nonsexual) mental illness and anxiety.

I don't think the classic AGP (usually middle aged men who've successfully fathered children, held down jobs and been considered masculine men) is dissociative in a clinical sense, tho they may get there (trooning out is extremely bad for mental health).

The Blanchard taxonomy needs updating, because it's not just HSTS (feminine gay guys) and AGP (masculine 'lesbians' or bi guys) anymore. The Hearts of Iron or speedrunning troon is another category of its own - poorly socialized, somewhat autistic young men who share a lot of the same interests as classic AGPs, but are usually social outcasts before trooning out and can be seen as failed men trying to escape themselves.

Thankfully the Kiwi Farms Institute For Curing Troons And Other Retards has the solution.

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You're right, and the middle-aged AGP type you mentioned are also the type that you won't find deeply involved in nerdy escapist activities like fandom and video games. You could probably look at "troon emotional reactions to being misgendered" as a spectrum going from pure narc rage (the older typical coomer AGP) to something closer to pure trauma (Aidens, maybe some very autistic transbians). That said, the two emotions would also become muddled because trooning out in general encourages narcissistic behavior and like you said, is bad for mental health in general.

I don't think HSTS fit in anywhere there, although of course any involvement in the modern TRA movement is going to cause some of the other types' behavior and issues to rub off.

I also think we are seeing a new variety of male troon emerge that does not have autogynephilia (or only has a mild version of it) and transitions simply as a way to gain power over and access to women, and/or escape the consequences of their past misbehavior against women and general problematic behavior. Just pure narcissism without the fetish, in other words. Charlotte Clymer and Olly/Abigail Thorne might be good examples.

Gee, it would be nice if psychologists were actually allowed to study this stuff, wouldn't it?
 
If you want to laugh, heres a list of the demands released by the netflix troons.

Over the past few weeks, it has become clear that there are many places where Netflix

still has to grow when it comes to content relating to the trans and non-binary

community. The Trans* Employee Resource Group, which includes trans and

non-binary colleagues as well as our numerous allies, wants Netflix to immediately take

the steps below to begin to repair the relationship between the Company, our

colleagues, and our audience. Specifically, we want the Company to adopt measures

in the areas of Content Investment, Employee Relations and Safety, and Harm

Reduction, all of which are necessary to avoid future instances of platforming

transphobia and hate speech, and to account for the harm we have caused and will

continue to cause until the below measures are put in place.

Content Investment

  • Create a new fund to specifically develop trans and non-binary talent

○ This fund should support both above-the-line (ATL) and below-the-line

(BTL) talent;

○ This fund should exist in addition to the existing Creative Equity Fund;

  • Increase investment in trans and non-binary content on Netflix comparable to

our total investment in transphobic content, including marketing and

promotion;

  • Invest in multiple trans creators to make both scripted and unscripted programs

across genres;

  • Revise internal processes on commissioning and releasing potential harmful

(“sensitive”) content, including but not limited to involving parties who are a

part of the subject community and can speak to potential harm, or consulting

with 3rd party experts/vendors;

  • Increase the ERG role in conversations around potentially harmful content and

ensure we have best in class regional support on complicated intersectional

diversity issues;

  • Hire trans and non-binary content executives, especially BIPOC, in leading

positions;

Employee Relations and Safety

  • Recruit trans people, especially BIPOC, for leadership roles in the company

(Director, VP, etc.) and promote an inclusive environment for them;

  • Allow employees to remove themselves from previous company promotional

content (e.g. allyship and diversity videos, etc.);

  • Eliminate references/imagery of transphobic titles or talent inside of the

workplace, including but not limited to murals, posters, room names, swag;

Harm Reduction

  • Acknowledge the harm and Netflix’s responsibility for this harm from

transphobic content, and in particular harm to the Black trans community;

  • Add a disclaimer before transphobic titles that specifically flag transphobic

language, misogyny, homophobia, hate speech, etc. as required;

  • Boost promotion for Disclosure and other trans-affirming titles in the platform;
  • Suggest trans-affirming content alongside and after content flagged as

anti-trans.

We are employees, but we are members, too. We believe that this Company can and

must do better in our quest to entertain the world, and that the way forward must

include more diverse voices in order to avoid causing more harm. The Trans* ERG

looks forward to working with the Company to make this a better, more entertaining

place for us all.

Sincerely-

Trans* Netflix

It appears these totally sane people want control over the content released so theres no wrongthink.
 
If you want to laugh, heres a list of the demands released by the netflix troons.



It appears these totally sane people want control over the content released so theres no wrongthink.

The ONLY tthing I see happening off that list is a content warning before shows, since Disney does it now and WB put it in front of old racist cartoons.
 
Tbh the mypartneristrans shit absolutely deserves to be in here because it's general troonacy and adds some more visceral horror to the thread.

Plus it's not like the community itself is big enough to overwhelm the thread, most of the big things have already been posted so it'll be a gentle trickle from now on.
Yeah, I have to say not even the kiddy rapist diaper wearing furry horror that is most troonery quite matches the disturbing psycho terror of these hetro AGP skin walkers.
 
Definitely for the Aidens. Ftm is a completely different thing to typical Mtf troonery, looks like it's less fetishistic and pornified and more about emotional trauma, (nonsexual) mental illness and anxiety.

Wrong (as usual). TIFs only seem less like fetishists because they have less of a platform, but they absolutely are into fetishizing what they believe masculinity to be (they have to have facial hair, tattoos, and the biggest silicon strap on they can afford, or they aren't "real men" - not to mention they display the typical radfem habit of attacking/insulting the manhood of any bio male who dares question them). There are multiple examples of all this in this thread - you should really try too read some of it.
 
What should the news sources say??? Black Pregnant Man gets fired from job? Can't they understand how bizarre that sounds?

(also the news doesn't give a shit because No one gives a shit except loudmouthed Troons on twitter)
No one gives a shit about transmen because they are women. Transmen know this but must simultaneously repress it because they do not want to shatter their own fantasy of not being women.

FtMs don't even bother coming up with alternate explanations, they just all seethe together about being ignored and invisible and talked over and stop there because no one can say the true reason out loud (i.e., they are women and the trans movement still perceives them as such, and defers primarily to the biological males), and everyone just ignores the obvious truth like it's a fart in an elevator.
 
Wrong (as usual). TIFs only seem less like fetishists because they have less of a platform, but they absolutely are into fetishizing what they believe masculinity to be (they have to have facial hair, tattoos, and the biggest silicon strap on they can afford, or they aren't "real men" - not to mention they display the typical radfem habit of attacking/insulting the manhood of any bio male who dares question them). There are multiple examples of all this in this thread - you should really try too read some of it.
The idea that it isn’t a sex thing for FTMs is absurd. Have you seen the way they talk about gay men’s bodies? Maybe 25 years ago all FTMs were sad lesbians, but it’s not that way now.
 
I genuinely can't understand what the fuck is being said here; there are so many false-positives I have no idea what actually lost its job.

And if you want to stop people automatically equating 'trans' with troons maybe have a quiet word with the shrieking lunatics who are the face of your movement or, better yet, speak out against them. Kidding, I know you'd never dream of going against the hivemind because it would only guarantee your own expulsion from the cult.
What should the news sources say??? Black Pregnant Man gets fired from job? Can't they understand how bizarre that sounds?

(also the news doesn't give a shit because No one gives a shit except loudmouthed Troons on twitter)
The troon will tell you who got fired, but never why.
 
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I pray she isn't bullied into letting him play out his fetish in the delivery room of all places. She needs to divorce his pornsick ass and run, I wouldn't want that anywhere near my baby.
This is peek troon narcissism. That woman is probably in agony, excited and nervous to have a child, while the "man" who is supposed to be helping her is trying to steal the attention with his budget Ed Gein cosplay, making her feel 10x worse. God forbid anything happens to her or the baby because of this added stress. These people are such subhuman scumbags.
 
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I dunno, dude. I‘ve never made people uncomfortable with my euphoria boner 🤔 archive This person (saying she is AFAB, so handmaiden) is trying to explain why „male socialization“ is a mean concept used to abuse poor transfems by evil AFABs. Then a tranny plugs their own thread on the insidious nature of that term. Yeah, bc it disproves your narc narrative and reveals your lunacy. That is probably the insidious part.

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First tweet of twenty of an elaborate literal self-insert fanfiction of sth probably. archive
Tranny + AGP + plural. Which one of your personalities is the pedo?
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He must be thrilled to know you think of him.

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Okay, thx Amy. That answered zero questions.

Troids answer which phrase is the meanest dogwhistle of them all. Pretty much anything relating to reality, apparently. So much literal violence. Très insidieux!
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Wrong (as usual). TIFs only seem less like fetishists because they have less of a platform, but they absolutely are into fetishizing what they believe masculinity to be (they have to have facial hair, tattoos, and the biggest silicon strap on they can afford, or they aren't "real men" - not to mention they display the typical radfem habit of attacking/insulting the manhood of any bio male who dares question them). There are multiple examples of all this in this thread - you should really try too read some of it.

Learn to read, lil nibba. "Less" =/= "not at all".

Also, Aidens don't have less of a platform. They have the same platform - the internet. The fact they're less likely to compulsively spam social media with pornography and FaceApp selfies as the opposite sex should tell you something.

Idk what to make of their little gnome beards and marzipan peckers, other than lol. It could have a sexual self-gratification element, but it looks more like a dress up roleplay game taken too far to me. That Juno girl looked like she was a child wearing her Dad's suit, if she was getting turned on by that, it didn't show in her sad, haunted, beady little eyes.

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Also: imagine "transitioning" into looking like a 12 year old boy at a wedding. :story:

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I listed my tinder profile as straight to ward off the unicorn chasers and this true and honest woman still tried to match with me:

Troons don’t give a fuck about your sexuality. They believe that they have the right to identify into your sexual orientation. For them, saying “I am a woman” makes them indistinguishable from actual women. After saying those “magic words” and putting on their “feminine costume”, suddenly their obviously male primary and secondary characteristics become female primary and secondary sexual characteristics. Truly retarded reasoning. :story:

But that same retarded reasoning is why they have the audacity to go onto echo chambers like Twitter and say shit like “If you’re a ‘lesbian’ but exclude trans women from your dating pool, then you’re not a lesbian. You are just a vagina fetishist”.

Troons feel so entitled to your sexuality that they believe that they have the right to both identify into your sexual orientation and kick you out your own sexual orientation when you don’t comply with their delusions.
 
Transmen: mimimi, talking about our biology is important and totes valid. This is not excluding transwomen and transfeminines at all! We are erased and oppresshuned.
Also transmen: lol, cis bitches, men get pregnant too so move over!
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Feel more sorry for yourself, why don‘t ya? Not like actual ailments matter more than validation.
I also see troids fantasizing about having uteri and then aborting for max empowerment.

Transmen posting various L‘s.
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Good on her.
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Yeah, nobody knew..
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I guess the swearing makes it male? Is this counting as chemical FGM?
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wow so manly and cool just telling the loser to suck it up and fuck off. I am impressed!
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But still begging for those likes, eh?

Tranny has magical experiences of passing and validation.

The insanity of these people willing to change their DNA if they could. I can't think of anything more unethical.
Even if we could change DNA and magically regrow organs, that shit sounds awful, a horror movie.

But guess what tranny, even in the hypothetical situation where you changed your chromosomes, developed real female genitals and body. I still wouldn't fuck you because you're a man who just changed his chromosomes.
 
Definitely for the Aidens. Ftm is a completely different thing to typical Mtf troonery, looks like it's less fetishistic and pornified and more about emotional trauma, (nonsexual) mental illness and anxiety.

I don't think the classic AGP (usually middle aged men who've successfully fathered children, held down jobs and been considered masculine men) is dissociative in a clinical sense, tho they may get there (trooning out is extremely bad for mental health).

The Blanchard taxonomy needs updating, because it's not just HSTS (feminine gay guys) and AGP (masculine 'lesbians' or bi guys) anymore. The Hearts of Iron or speedrunning troon is another category of its own - poorly socialized, somewhat autistic young men who share a lot of the same interests as classic AGPs, but are usually social outcasts before trooning out and can be seen as failed men trying to escape themselves.

Thankfully the Kiwi Farms Institute For Curing Troons And Other Retards has the solution.

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It's worth noting that the autism connection was always there with AGP - here's an interview from 1999 unironically wondering why so many troons want to be game designers.

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This probably contributed to the higher than average IQ AGPs have been known to have. It's not from the ex military twice divorce meatheads, it's from the autists who perform well on IQ tests.
 
The insanity of these people willing to change their DNA if they could. I can't think of anything more unethical.
Even if we could change DNA and magically regrow organs, that shit sounds awful, a horror movie.

But guess what tranny, even in the hypothetical situation where you changed your chromosomes, developed real female genitals and body. I still wouldn't fuck you because you're a man who just changed his chromosomes.
Imagine how many horrible mutations would occur if we could edit our DNA. One or two things wrong, and you make Quasimodo look like Fabio in comparison. Editing your DNA to chase your fetish is one of the most foolhardy things I can think of doing to yourself. However, it is entirely on brand for troons; doing irreparable damage to your body for the coom.
 
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