And a Child Shall Mislead Them - Arch-"skeptic" Penn Jillette: the latest -- and most ironic -- convert to Troonism

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And a Child Shall Mislead Them

David Cole
October 19, 2021
And a Child Shall Mislead Them

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Penn Jillette


This week, we take a focused look at how the West’s most destructive superstition can grip the mind of even the most strident “rationalist,” and what that means for those of us who don’t partake in the séance.

Penn Jillette, the tall half of the hugely successful magician duo Penn & Teller, is one of the entertainment industry’s most outspoken atheists. For decades, Jillette has smugly condemned all manner of religious, psychic, and pseudoscientific irrationality. He also has a fan base on the right, because as a self-described libertarian, Jillette’s often mused about how “taxation is theft” and government compulsion is bad.

Penn Jillette: a man with no gods, including government. A man who falls for no (to use the title of his Showtime series) “bullshit.”
Then his teenage daughter decided that she’s a man. And the world witnessed how quickly the “smug” vanishes from the rationalist when the bullshit hits too close to home.
About a year or so ago, Jillette’s daughter, Moxie Crimefighter (yes, that’s her name), decided that she’d been “assigned the wrong sex at birth.” And she demanded that her parents no longer use female pronouns for her, like, ever.

Back in 2014, Jillette bragged on his podcast about how he’d raised Moxie to “laugh at God.”

There’s an old saying I just coined: “When you laugh at God, He laughs back and best.” Because now Jillette—Mr. “no pseudoscience,” Mr. “no cults or flimflam”—has become the spokesperson for the biggest pseudoscientific cultlike flimflam of the 21st century. The guy who’s spent a career deconstructing magic (“no, the bouquet of flowers didn’t actually become a rabbit; it was sleight of hand”) is now a true believer that a girl can actually become a boy overnight, by the sheer power of mentalism!

Abracagender!

In theory, none of this is our concern. What transpires in the Jillette household is solely the business of the Jillettes.

But Penn makes it our business.

As part of Jillette’s conversion to spiritualist, he’s publicly renounced his libertarianism (on CNN, no less!), he’s embraced burdensome government, and he’s thrown his support full-throttle behind Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom as they promote policies that strong-arm us to “see” Jillette’s spooks and spirits (Newsom in particular is arguably the most “compulsory” politico in the country when it comes to forcing people to accept tranny theology). Jillette supports politicians who want to force girls to shower, change, and go to the bathroom alongside biological boys. Those same politicians have eliminated cervical cancer smear test outreaches to women (because it’s a hate crime to say that only women have a cervix), and the Mayo Clinic—joining the madness—has scrubbed its cervical cancer awareness page of any mention of women.

“This is cultlike behavior; there’s no other way to put it.”

To be clear, women will die from the elimination of targeted cervical cancer outreach, and girls will be, and have been, raped by boys playing tranny to infiltrate the girls’ bathroom. Jillette used to be a campaigner against “psychic surgeon” frauds who endanger people by pretending to cure their disease, thus prompting them to neglect legitimate treatment. Yet now he supports politicians who put women at risk because of a belief system no less irrational than psychic healing.
Jillette’s also pledged to ban gender pronouns from his CW series Fool Us:

I have tried to eliminate all gender pronouns from our show. That’s very difficult for me, because I’m uneducated. I have that autodidact, irritating quality of reading old grammar books. So it’s very difficult for me to use third-person plural as third-person singular, but I’ve done it. I used to say he or she a lot, but I learned the binary gender thing was impolite and inconsiderate.

Dude’s apologizing for being erudite (he literally says being well versed in grammar means being “uneducated”).

Jillette’s also stopped using the term “female magicians” in favor of “people who self-identify as women in magic” (that’s not even remotely cumbersome). And most batshit of all, he supports the use of “gender-free playing cards,” in which king, queen, and jack are replaced by “gold, silver, and bronze.” It’s not even clear to me why a tranny would be disturbed by a face card; if boys who think they’re girls really are girls, and if girls who think they’re boys really are boys, then what’s offensive about seeing a female queen and a male king? They can identify with whichever one they feel like that day.

Yet Jillette asks no such questions (the “man of logic” is long gone). It’s not possible to overstate the magnitude of the “genderless deck” thing. Here’s a fella who’s devoted his life to magic, not just as a practitioner, but a historian. And yet he favors altering something that’s not only fundamental to his field but historical.
This is cultlike behavior; there’s no other way to put it. He’s obviously a loving father, but in his desire to support his daughter, he’s undergone a personality change. That’s not being a supportive dad; that’s being brainwashed.

Jillette’s podcast, titled Sunday School to mock Christians, has ironically become an actual pulpit, a place where he can preach tranny theology and flagellate himself as a sinner. “Our dinner table conversation is I would say at least one-quarter correcting pronouns,” Jillette revealed on a recent episode, castigating himself for still occasionally calling Moxie “she.” When his cohost responded, “Well, at least it sounds like your children respect the effort,” Jillette, reproaching himself for his failures, bitterly replied, “Maybe I should just do it fuckin’ right.”

Jillette also apologized for having trouble with the proper pronouns for Moxie’s friends, who “have they, him, her, and it and some of them change day by day.” That’s a startling admission (though Jillette’s too blind to understand why): How committed to the bit are these kids if they “change day by day”? It’s one thing to claim that a girl suddenly discovers the boy living within. That’s nutty enough.

But changing “day by day” suggests unseriousness. Yet Jillette supports authoritarian politicians who want to remake society based purely on the “day by day” whims of children.
It’s instructive to recall that six years ago I interviewed a trans activist I’d known since childhood, and I reminded her about a dear mutual friend who was almost raped in the girls’ bathroom at our school. The rape was interrupted by a teacher who saw the rapist enter and ran over to enforce the school’s “no boys in the girls’ room” policy. With boys now welcome in whatever bathroom they “identify” with, I asked the activist, “What’s going to stop assaults like the one our friend endured?”

Her response? “It’s not like suddenly a child is going to school all boy, masculine, maybe even in sports, and then comes to school in a dress declaring they are now a girl. When a child is trans, they know from the get-go. These are not just any boys who declare, ‘I’m a girl now!’”

I knew that answer was bullshit, and Jillette inadvertently confirms that with his “day by day” observation.

On another podcast episode, Jillette condemned Moxie’s grandma for “fucking up the pronouns,” and he called himself “stupid as soil samples” for committing similar infractions.
Tell me that’s not cultish. Cults are all about making you condemn yourself (for your old sinful ways), your family, and your profession. Cults are about forcing renunciation and rebirth. It’s what authors Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman call “snapping.”

Here’s an example of the extent to which Jillette has “snapped”:

In 2014, he was called out by a Muslim journalist for trolling the musician formerly known as Cat Stevens on Twitter, purposely using his “dead name” and not his Muslim name (Yusuf Islam). I’m no fan of Muslims, but to be fair the guy’s been Yusuf Islam since 1977, and Cat Stevens was a stage name anyway.

“Would be nice if you called him by the name he wants to be called,” journalist Shakeel Hashim tweeted to Jillette.

“I think it’s funny to use that name. I do not respect this decision in any way,” Jillette replied.

Jillette basically said, “I do not respect this person’s choice to change his name and identity. In fact, I find it funny.”

But that was back when Jillette was a “skeptic.” Before the cult got him. Indeed, I’d argue that the tranny cult is worse than any religious cult, because it lacks the concept of a loving God. There’s no hope of redemption; only the promise of more haranguing and correction.

As Conway and Siegelman point out, most people “snap” because an emotional weakness is exploited, or because something happens in their life that “disrupts continuity.” The tranny cult got to Jillette through his child, through his obvious love for her, and through the continuity break that occurred when the girl he raised declared she’s not a girl. That’s how they hooked an otherwise intelligent 66-year-old man. But the cult demands more than that he just accept and love his daughter; he needs to cleanse himself of disbelief, and he needs to back politicians who strive to cleanse us.

Many on the right tend to think that the tranny cult targets kids in order to estrange them from their families. And in many cases, that’s true. But as the Jillette example starkly illustrates, hooking the kids can be an effective way to hook the parents. Brainwashing can flow upstream. A loving parent (like Jillette) accepts pseudoscience (a person can think themselves into changing their biological sex). In accepting this as truth, it logically follows that those who disagree—those who see childish fad and body dysmorphia, not “assigned sex vs. willed sex”—are harmful to “trans” children. So they must be stopped.

And that’s how you pull off the magic trick of turning a cynical libertarian into a woke social justice true believer who supports politicians who use all manner of force and coercion in the name of enforcing tranny dogma.

Several weeks ago in a Twitter thread discussing my column (and hey, follow me on Twitter before I get banned!), I was reminded that in Psychopathology of Everyday Life, Freud observed that social pressure to avoid saying something can lead to people no longer thinking the thing they’re not supposed to say. In other words, the mind conforms to the boundaries. We simply stop thinking things we know we can’t speak aloud.

The self-washing brain.

Parents seeking to patronize a child immersed in tranny faddism will soon stop thinking what they’re not allowed to say. Privately harbored skepticism will vanish the longer it isn’t allowed to be verbalized. And soon enough, you have converts. Old knowledge of gender reality is lost, replaced by the cult’s redefinition.
On Fool Us, Penn & Teller award a trophy to any magician who can fool them.

Penn deserves the biggest trophy of all…the dude literally fooled himself.

An impressive achievement, and one that certainly excites those who wish to remake America…just as it depresses the remaining anti-cult holdouts who still cling to the term “rationalist” like it means something.
 
I know small kids probably troon out because they were getting molested by a family member or forced into it by a insane parent. Does it hold for teens, or is that where the social component start pushing in?
The term is ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’ and just like anorexia, bulimia, bipolar, cutting etc were in the past, it’s being heavily pushed on to, and being adopted by, teenage girls seeking something to make them ‘special’. Notice how anorexia et. al. are so rare these days? It’s because they’re passé. Now all the groovy kids got a brand new bag.

The problem we have is that previous fad ’cries for attention’ from teenage girls rarely had severe lifelong consequences and were regarded as treatable mental illnesses. However the transgender crybullies have successfully ensured that their mental illness (unlike, say, playing more than six hours of vidya a week) is no longer regarded as a sign someone needs treatment.

Transgenderism is trendy and fashionable, a way of standing out from your peers and ensuring that nobody can question anything you do. It’s a craze, albeit one with horrible outcomes. And the diagnostic criteria for transgenderism have been made looser than the waistband on Oprah’s thanksgiving pants.

When the pendulum swings back to sanity there will be a lot of troons with buyers’ remorse, and there will also be a lot of people in the transgender industry being sued for overdiagnosis, believe me.

Most trans support centres have a 100% affirmation rate which is extraordinary. And transgenderism is literally the only condition I know of that is regarded as 100% patient self-diagnosable under existing medical criteria. It’s madness.
 
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving blowhard, I find this hilarious.

I was a frequent watcher of his TV show Bullshit and while it made a lot of good points, Penn's atheism and his blatant hatred of Religion so obviously stemmed from him just being an asshole with some kind of emotional hang up about it, not something coldly logical like he'd have you believe.

Hopefully now he'll get a lesson why Religion is important and worthy of respect, because it prevents crazy ideas like trannyism from taking over society.

Seriously, as shitty as our current climate is I can't help but feel a real smug sense of satisfaction when I think back to the "new atheism" movement of the 2000s, we've seen now what happens when you take Religion out of a society and it's nothing good.
I wasn't raised in a regularly churchgoing house, but got deeper into my Catholic faith on my own when I went to college. I wanted to know how to explain and defend my faith, and that, in turn, taught me how to be humble and listen to other people's opinions. It also taught me that it's okay to say "I don't know the answer, let me get back to you on that one."

I want to understand people. I don't like dunking on strawmen and tooting my own horn. I never saw obvious propaganda films like God's Not Dead.

Meanwhile, the kids who were resentful towards their parents for taking them to church as kids became atheists and made "fuck you dad" the bedrock of their worldview. Once they decided that they were Smarter-Than-Thou Freethinkers™️ and Skeptics™️, they concluded that it meant they could never be wrong about anything.

Hence, today, they get apoplectic when any of that freethinkenin' or skepticism gets directed at themselves. They'd rather invent new words and phrases than acknowledge the existence of any opinion that runs afoul of their own.
 
I wasn't raised in a regularly churchgoing house, but got deeper into my Catholic faith on my own when I went to college. I wanted to know how to explain and defend my faith, and that, in turn, taught me how to be humble and listen to other people's opinions. It also taught me that it's okay to say "I don't know the answer, let me get back to you on that one."

I want to understand people. I don't like dunking on strawmen and tooting my own horn. I never saw obvious propaganda films like God's Not Dead.

Meanwhile, the kids who were resentful towards their parents for taking them to church as kids became atheists and made "fuck you dad" the bedrock of their worldview. Once they decided that they were Smarter-Than-Thou Freethinkers™️ and Skeptics™️, they concluded that it meant they could never be wrong about anything.

Hence, today, they get apoplectic when any of that freethinkining or skepticism gets directed at themselves. They'd rather invent new words and phrases than acknowledge the existence of any opinion that runs afoul of their own.
One of my great heroes is Robert Anton Wilson -- a "transcendental agnostic" who questioned everything -- especially his own prejudices.

Many years ago he wrote a book called The New Inquisition about this sort of mindless pseudo-skepticism, which he called Fundamentalist Materialism, long before people like Penn & Teller mainstreamed the mentality. In the book, when he looked at dogmatic-rationalist Martin Gardner, who was sort of the Penn Jillette of an earlier era, he said, "I wish I was as sure of anything, as Mr. Gardner seems to be about everything!"
 
I think it's a bit different than that. People are vulnerable to spirituality, whether you believe in a God or not it is hardwired into humanity, and removing a "greater punishment" has led to loss of morality standards, and cowardice with the ultimate fear being death. Destroying this notion in society has also made people "aimless" as you put it or just lacking purpose, and has mentally damaged many people which has led to this slippery slope freakshow occurring.

It's like the dumb argument that atheist have morality just like religion, the issue comes with it is basing a culture around a group of people who do not innately agree with each other and have no fine lines in the sand and come to the fact that morality if not by a higher being is subjective and enforced by peers lead to moral decay and corruption down the road. Either way pride cometh before the fall, and sooner or later many atheist will be hated for their role in what happened to modern societies of leading to that fall.
I like this, it's an interesting view.

The book Sapiens, talks about how stories bring humans together, from local tribal stories, to stories of companies and countries, to religions, financial and law stories that cut across boundries, genders and ages. Basically, the better the story is, the more people will believe in it on a base human level, leaving behind their catagorical differences of age, race, gender, nationality etc. It's why Christianity is the best story we have invented; because more people from varying backgrounds believe in it, than anything else (maybe closely followed by capitalism)

I always have that in mind when I think about troonery. Because I wonder what the appeal is, what the catch is, over christianity, or islam, or capitalism or any other story we've ever imagined. It's main audience seems to be bored, well-off, educated, young, white males, with their close families/relatives, sometimes getting sucked in to the story.

I can't fathom or understand how woke, sjw or troonery (whatever you want to call it) tells a better story than religion or capitalism (seems as most of them are wierd commie-lites) to the extent that classically intelligent, well reasoned and thoughtful people fall for it hook line and sinker. In all honesty, the only two reasons i can think of are 1) With a lack of humility, people can't accept they were possibly wrong about the total denouncement of religion and/or 2) It is a virus. I am 100% serious when i talk about 2, i often wonder if the 'simulation' theory and 'Ai taking over the world' isn't a mental virus that we haven't discovered or classified yet. We can see cancer, but we can't see trauma, or addiction, or stress, only the physical effects of such conditions.

Sorry for going Off Topic, but with every thread or story like this, i become more and more confused and need to understand or put a reason forward as to why it happens.
 
I like this, it's an interesting view.

The book Sapiens, talks about how stories bring humans together, from local tribal stories, to stories of companies and countries, to religions, financial and law stories that cut across boundries, genders and ages. Basically, the better the story is, the more people will believe in it on a base human level, leaving behind their catagorical differences of age, race, gender, nationality etc. It's why Christianity is the best story we have invented; because more people from varying backgrounds believe in it, than anything else (maybe closely followed by capitalism)

I always have that in mind when I think about troonery. Because I wonder what the appeal is, what the catch is, over christianity, or islam, or capitalism or any other story we've ever imagined. It's main audience seems to be bored, well-off, educated, young, white males, with their close families/relatives, sometimes getting sucked in to the story.

I can't fathom or understand how woke, sjw or troonery (whatever you want to call it) tells a better story than religion or capitalism (seems as most of them are wierd commie-lites) to the extent that classically intelligent, well reasoned and thoughtful people fall for it hook line and sinker. In all honesty, the only two reasons i can think of are 1) With a lack of humility, people can't accept they were possibly wrong about the total denouncement of religion and/or 2) It is a virus. I am 100% serious when i talk about 2, i often wonder if the 'simulation' theory and 'Ai taking over the world' isn't a mental virus that we haven't discovered or classified yet. We can see cancer, but we can't see trauma, or addiction, or stress, only the physical effects of such conditions.

Sorry for going Off Topic, but with every thread or story like this, i become more and more confused and need to understand or put a reason forward as to why it happens.
No, it's all good, these articles I always find good for slight off-topic discussions to better understand our world and how our universe (or the metaphysics within it) work.

See, and there's more correlation to what you just mentioned, Commies, and socialist are primarily atheist, or anti-religious atheist to be specific. It seems that the draw is someone was told "They're going to Hell" and instead of getting over it they decided they would destroy everything in a fit of anger and unhinged delight. If they admit they were wrong about religion they have to take fault in the many atrocities committed by those sharing their ideology and I think many of them would commit suicide over that acknowledgement. Basically in their mind it's a fight for survival because acknowledging the truth would mean that fight is over, though the second proposal is also possible in regards to that:

I wouldn't be surprised, it really does seem that socialism, communism, anti-religious atheism, are a mind virus. Which also sprouts to other mind-viruses like "feminism" "progressivism" and even "leftism."

I think there may be even a better possibility that there are two kinds of mind viruses, though one I wouldn't classify as such. One group influences people to be their best, to improve the world around them almost like a morale boost as a human being, those they influence notice a difference in them and how they impact others. The other group of course would be as you describe these commies, and weird degenerates who seem to want to regress everything to nothing. Just as life and death are on the same coin those who progress humanity and regress it must also be on the same coin and in the same way one can morale boost the other seems to demotivate and degrade humanity. At least some conceptual food for thought.
 
I'm not clever enough to put this thought in to words, but i'll give it a bash.

It's funny/ironic, that those who thought they were high and mighty, poking fun at the belief in the High and Mighty, are now completely lost and grab on to any social dillusion that they would have laughed at ten years ago. It's almost like God (if he exists) has said "Fine. You don't want me around? I'm off, let's see how well you run the show without me", and society has just collapsed without him.

Wether God exists or not, is kind of irrelevant now. It's the idea of God, and being able to base your direction in life on not-God was all well and good, but now there is no God or not-God and people are just lost.

I dunno, ramblings and shit. It's just weird how it's the same type of individual, anti-establishment mind set is the easiest to corrupt.
Think of God as a metaphor for truth as an absolute concept, for truth and what is morally right as something that is beyond humanity.

It's good for a society to structure itself around that, otherwise what you get is humanity being the highest power there is, humanity being who gets to decide truth and we're seeing what that leads to, nothing but chaos, think of it like building a structure, what's going to make it stand? 2+2=4 or 2+2=whatever you want it to? Society is no different than building a structure.

In other words 2+2=4, that's God, God is truth, we being humans of course we want to personify that concept, to think of it as being a conscious deity, it's a matter of personal belief whether that's really the case, but either way truth as an absolute thing is self evident, it's self evident by this point why the alternative, believing truth is subjective, is destructive.
 
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I'm honestly pretty upset and baffled at this article. I seriously can't believe Jillette of all people got sucked up into this BULLSHIT of our current year.
A useful takeaway is that you can't have somebody try and be smart for you. His career arc coincides with the way skepticism degenerated into a brand.

Somebody I knew once said something like: 'They get their politics from stand up comedians, their philosophy from stage magicians and their knowledge of engineering and the scientific method from effects artists. Of course they fucking love science.'

EDIT: Everybody has their price, and aging entertainers are bargains. If you believe in free speech and the associated virtues this is meant to shake your faith. Don't let it.
 
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I still have a lot of legacy respect for Jillette, but let's be honest... his kids were always going to be fucked up. He and his wife had a separate house that was a sex dungeon, for fuck's sake.

Kick a sense of the transcendent or eternal out of your life, and the base passions become your God.
A useful takeaway is that you can't have somebody try and be smart for you. His career arc coincides with the way skepticism degenerated into a brand.

Somebody I knew once said something like: 'They get their politics from stand up comedians, their philosophy from stage magicians and their knowledge of engineering and the scientific method from effects artists. Of course they fucking love science.'
Excellent observation. For people like this, illusionists have informed their entire world-view.
 
You named your kid Moxie Crimefighter. What on Earth were you expecting?

She's a dumb teen pozzed by social media. If she lops off her tits and regrets it then he can buy her a nice set of implants.

This is why you turn off the goddamn internet and tell your kid to go study. She probably spent half her life on social media and became convinced she was trans because she liked football or wearing pants or something ridiculous like that. And all her friends got the same virus. I guarantee she's got a circle of enbies and trannies hovering around her. They all magically realised they were genderspecial at the same time but it's totally not a social epidemic.

Those same politicians have eliminated cervical cancer smear test outreaches to women (because it’s a hate crime to say that only women have a cervix), and the Mayo Clinic—joining the madness—has scrubbed its cervical cancer awareness page of any mention of women.

Erasing women from women's health is not just sexist. It's ableist and racist. Using terms that will confuse learning disabled people and people who do not speak much English just so a few troons won't have hurt feelings about never being a real woman.

I used to like this guy. But he's gone full retard with trying to support his daughter's social disease. Not using gendered language on his show erases the identities of people who are male or female and identify as such. "Magicians who self identify as female"? In Clown World anybody can magically switch genders via feels alone. And this is used to terrify mothers and children at spas and rape classmates in high school bathrooms. Get bent Jillette. :mad:
 
I like this, it's an interesting view.

The book Sapiens, talks about how stories bring humans together, from local tribal stories, to stories of companies and countries, to religions, financial and law stories that cut across boundries, genders and ages. Basically, the better the story is, the more people will believe in it on a base human level, leaving behind their catagorical differences of age, race, gender, nationality etc. It's why Christianity is the best story we have invented; because more people from varying backgrounds believe in it, than anything else (maybe closely followed by capitalism)

I always have that in mind when I think about troonery. Because I wonder what the appeal is, what the catch is, over christianity, or islam, or capitalism or any other story we've ever imagined. It's main audience seems to be bored, well-off, educated, young, white males, with their close families/relatives, sometimes getting sucked in to the story.

I can't fathom or understand how woke, sjw or troonery (whatever you want to call it) tells a better story than religion or capitalism (seems as most of them are wierd commie-lites) to the extent that classically intelligent, well reasoned and thoughtful people fall for it hook line and sinker. In all honesty, the only two reasons i can think of are 1) With a lack of humility, people can't accept they were possibly wrong about the total denouncement of religion and/or 2) It is a virus. I am 100% serious when i talk about 2, i often wonder if the 'simulation' theory and 'Ai taking over the world' isn't a mental virus that we haven't discovered or classified yet. We can see cancer, but we can't see trauma, or addiction, or stress, only the physical effects of such conditions.

Sorry for going Off Topic, but with every thread or story like this, i become more and more confused and need to understand or put a reason forward as to why it happens.
Much of Current Year tomfoolery can be traced to the Whig Theory of history we were taught in school. It portrays history as "a journey from a dark and terrible past to a 'glorious present'".

They unironically think their demands for neopronouns and diversity quotas make them the heirs of Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King. They think setting fire to the homes and businesses of innocent bystanders over a dead druggie felon is the same as storming Omaha Beach.

Now do you see where they get their idea of the "Right Side of History™️?" They assume that, because the winners write the history books, the losers only lost because "they were just big bad racist sexist poopyhead MEANIES!"

They know very well that history is written by the victors, but will either a) haw-haw about their opponents being sore losers, or b) vehemently deny it and defensively sperg out about how unimpeachably EQUITABLE and RIGHT and NOBLE their positions are.

Their brains are incapable of comprehending the concept that they could be wrong.

My refutation of the "Right Side of History" is that I would rather be on the Right Side of Reality.
 
If troonism is true, men and women have different brains. If they have different brains, then perhaps the male brain might be superior (or vice versa) at certain tasks (or all of them). So, if there are intellectual differences between the sexes, then perhaps there are different intellectual differences between the races.

Are liberals really certain they want to go down this slippery slope? They are not going to like where it takes them. It will be funny when this bites them in the ass, though.

I guarantee his daughter was coached to threaten suicide if she isn't allowed to troon out and he has freaked out and decided to be 100% supportive because if he doesn't he thinks he'll end up with a dead daughter. His daughter is probably just a spoiled, manipulative little brat who finally found a way to bypass dad's "no bullshit" persona. I bet she gets whatever she wants now. Teenagers (especially girls) can be little despots if you give them a taste of power.
 
From the subtitle, I assumed Penn trooned out and that would be hilarious. Now that I know it's his daughter, this is just depressing.

e: was going to make a joke here about a troon who doesn't talk and wouldn't that be something but then realized I got his name backwards with teller
 
Fucking hell say it aint so.

I used to love P&T's Bullshit, that was such a based show.
It was a frequently entertaining show, especially when they ripped into leftist concepts or new age stuff.

But it's ironic that it ended before the most bullshit laden era in modern history, we really needed that show throughout the 2010s as society went utterly insane but Penn abandoned it, now he's let us down even further.

In my mind's eye I can imagine so clearly that show if it had gone on and addressed topics like "safe spaces" and other SJW things and it would have been awesome, but nope.

Even in the 2000s though it was shocking to see a TV show go against the grain of accepted left wing beliefs outside of something like Fox News.

Much of Current Year tomfoolery can be traced to the Whig Theory of history we were taught in school. It portrays history as "a journey from a dark and terrible past to a 'glorious present'".

They unironically think their demands for neopronouns and diversity quotas make them the heirs of Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King. They think setting fire to the homes and businesses of innocent bystanders over a dead druggie felon is the same as storming Omaha Beach.

Now do you see where they get their idea of the "Right Side of History™️?" They assume that, because the winners write the history books, the losers only lost because "they were just big bad racist sexist poopyhead MEANIES!"

They know very well that history is written by the victors, but will either a) haw-haw about their opponents being sore losers, or b) vehemently deny it and defensively sperg out about how unimpeachably EQUITABLE and RIGHT and NOBLE their positions are.

Their brains are incapable of comprehending the concept that they could be wrong.

My refutation of the "Right Side of History" is that I would rather be on the Right Side of Reality.
It's absolutely a cult like mindset that cropped up thanks to the religiosity surrounding the 60s movements and figures like Martin Luther King.

What generation wouldn't dream of going down in history like that? The trouble is they were fighting battles that were already won and only fucked everything up by doing so.
 
Like all good forummers, I read the title, subtitle and two lines and assumed Penn had trooned out, which would itself be it's own horror. It's his daughter, but pray to God (I mean it) that she sees sense before doing anything physically irreversible, although that'll be difficult with that smug shithead Dad. I'll pray for him. Troonery is a very bad religion to be pulled into, a heresy, if you like.

Personally, it's years since I heard of him and the Penn and Teller show.
 
This is totally unsurprising to me. While he can be funny and insightful at times, the guy is such a blowhard about his convictions (and in some ways, lack thereof) that it was only a matter of time before the cult of woke consumed him.

A few of my more "liberal" (read: pathologically non conformist unless it's left wing propaganda) friends love all their work, and it's fun in small doses to me, but the veneer is pretty thin, and the delivery gets grating after more than one episode. It's one of the poster shows for the types of people who drive a prius or a cheap electric with a coexist bumper sticker on one side of the bumper, and one that says "if you're not outraged, you're not paying attention" on the other.

It doesn't help matters much that the "progressive left" has slowly been converting skeptics under their sort of "big tent" guise of cultural dilution. They think they're saving the world™️, but it's really just a hyper divisive slog to a featureless grey mediocrity. C'est la vie, I guess.

When it's all said and done, with everything else going on, I can't really say I care all that much that one loudmouth comedian who can make a salient point got caught in the undertow by his unfortunately named daughter's grasp of his heartstrings. I mean, she'll never be a man anyways.
 
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