Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

I found the whole article on Sci-Hub.
Fantastic! Was annoyed something like this was kept behind a paywall but now we have even more available for research. When I update the OP tomorrow I'll add this as well.

Edit: Immediately I can see why this study was considered so important:
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So already we have a field that's barely researched--reporting on AEs (adverse events) from vaccines. Not that AEs aren't reported (they are) but that there seems to be evidence of reporting bias, as I'd call it. The more severe an AE, the more likely it will be reported, leading to higher reporting sensitivity. On the face of it this makes sense since physicians, pharmacologists, etc. would be more compelled to report about life-threatening issues rather than something like a rash. However, the point of VAERS isn't to just catalogue reports of life-threatening AEs but all AEs. Reporting adverse events is even part of the responsibility of Vaccine Safety Coordinators in each state.
I'm not done reading and just adding my 2 cents: What if the bias wasn't just about the particular type of AE but was also about the type of vaccine? What if, as Kirsch speculated and as the VAERS whistleblower (see OP) suggested, physicians and clinicians were reticent to ever consider an adverse effect as an adverse effect because they were convinced the vaccine in question caused no adverse effect?
If you think something is perfectly, universally safe and won't cause AEs then why would you ever connect the symptom a vaccinated patient experiences to the vaccination?

Obviously this is completely anti-science but it's happened before: A documentary called "Generation RX" highlighted how there was a boom of antidepressant prescriptions in the early 90's, among other things. Many psychologists/therapists/whatever were over prescribing these medicines to patients they deemed depressive or otherwise, leading to chemical imbalances in their brains and major--even fatal--consequences. There's a lot to be said about that, Big Pharma and the FDA's role in how things played out but suffice to say that it happens: Despite whatever a doctor sees before their very eyes, if they are convinced for whatever reason that what they are administering cannot be causing trouble then they will not consider the possibility. Doctors are people, after all.

So even without instances where physicians are being told not to report AEs, we still have the potential of bias in favor of not reporting them simply because said physicians are convinced they aren't AEs to begin with, and this possibility has existed long before the Covid vax. How much more when the concern of causing people to be "vaccine hesitant" is on a doctor's mind while the CDC's facile reassurances ring out in their ears?
TL;DR Could it be that the messaging and literal cult-like insistence by certain bodies (especially government) for the Covid vaccines is creating a chilling effect on even considering--let alone reporting--potential AEs? Could it be that all the fervor about making sure people don't become "vaccine hesitant" is making doctors become hesitant themselves?

Not everything is some kinda conspiracy theory. Although it's true that the "Infodemic" push aims to censor contrary information at all costs across the world, and it's true that individuals are bias in favor of/against the Covid vaccines, sometimes things are painfully simple too--like doctors being so overworked they can't report all the adverse events they witness, or doctors simply being disinclined to consider AEs at all, let alone report them.
 
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HHH feels like a left-wing clone of this guy I used to be friends with. He was a staunch Q-anon fucktard. The guy legitimately believed in perpetual motion devices, and he would basically argue every little minute thing into oblivion while simultaneously never being able to admit he was wrong, instead just shifting the entire argument to something else until he was 'right'.

I told him "The sky isn't red" and he literally tried to argue with me for half an hour that it was red in infrared so therefore I'm wrong. It's surreal to see HHH engage in the exact same running-in-circles total idiocy.
I have a similar friend like this. I either get him to cite and justify his nonsense or I spam him with gay porn when refuses to relent.
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Genius, considering how much of a shitshow govt IT generally is by and large I can see this as an entirely useful, extremely secure and well designed app.
 
This or maybe Colin Powell was disposable and the Deep State have no need for him anymore so...
I doubt it was intentional, it doesn't exactly help the Vaccine's case. If they wanted him dead it'd probably be way more under wraps or a different method altogether that doesn't incriminate the vaccine or put it's effectiveness up in the air.
 
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It looks like the feds are going to compensate FEDGOV employees if they're injured by the vaccines: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/owcp/FECA/regs/compliance/DFECfolio/FECABulletins/FY2020-2024
Pretty interesting considering the fact that OSHA isn't enforcing that businesses report adverse reactions to the vaccine. They don't want to ruin the narrative that vaccines probably aren't as safe as advertised.
 

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Pretty interesting considering the fact that OSHA isn't enforcing that businesses report adverse reactions to the vaccine. They don't want to ruin the narrative that vaccines probably aren't as safe as advertised.
Unholy hell they're just so in-your-face about their intentions as to be laughable. Basically saying, "We won't do our job to make sure others are doing their job regarding a necessary part of medical science because we don't want people to be reticent about medical science."
This is beyond exceptionally exceptional bull

It looks like the feds are going to compensate FEDGOV employees if they're injured by the vaccines: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/owcp/FECA/regs/compliance/DFECfolio/FECABulletins/FY2020-2024
Now why on earth would this not be useful evidence for any employee to demand the same compensation by their employer? If it's good enough for the Feds, it's good enough for us, too. I think everyone could take a copy of this link on their phone and present it to their employer if/when being given the ultimatum to get the vaccine.
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Honestly it makes a good argument. However here's where the problem of VAERS reporting bias/under-reporting and OSHA's bull comes in-- You'd have to prove your illness/condition came as a result of the vaccine itself. If everyone in their mother at the FDA and CDC refuse to acknowledge it to begin with, and if hardly no one is reporting correlations between the adverse event you're experiencing and the Covid vaccination you just had, then I'd imagine you're out of luck. Your doctor will be looking at hoof prints in search of zebras while everyone tells you it must be something other than the vaccine because X, Y and Z nonsense.

That's my grim outlook, at least. Experience dealing with something ridiculous like that with a union at the job a while back. They'll find any out they can. Still, it's pretty funny that the feddies are being given something by way of consideration while the private sector continues to race for the crown of biggest fascist.
 
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Now why on earth would this not be useful evidence for any employee to demand the same compensation by their employer? If it's good enough for the Feds, it's good enough for us, too. I think everyone could take a copy of this link on their phone and present it to their employer if/when being given the ultimatum to get the vaccine.
Honestly I think this is a great idea. Like, no joke.
 
Interesting French opinion piece on how the Covid virus seems to shorten telomeres and induce increased aging- and exploring whether or not the spike protein may be responsible for it. Of course, that might have some implications on the vaccines themselves...

The results showed that i) the telomeres of Covid patients were shorter than those in the reference group and ii) the presence of very short telomeres (smaller in size than the 10 percentile for age) was associated with a significantly higher risk. admission to intensive care or death .
And it turns out that Covid is actually an inflammatory and oxidative disease!
The spike protein in vaccines also induces inflammation and oxidative stress by binding to ACE2 receptors found throughout the body ( Lesgards JF, 2021 ).
Several questions arise about the virus:

1 - Is it better to catch the disease randomly and develop a natural global immune response or to try the vaccine experience by incurring the many side effects reported by pharmacovigilance, as well as a risk of increased cell senescence?

2 - Is the deterioration in biological age the same in Covid patients and in vaccinated people? Is one worse than the other? At this stage, no one can give a precise answer to these questions.

Still, this virus causes an increase in biological age in people who contract the disease, the effect of which is probably accentuated by the vaccine injection. With the decline in efficacy on contamination, it is therefore essential to prevent the worsening of the disease and for this early treatment is imperative.

 
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So what are your general thoughts and attitudes towards the future, as in 5 - 10 years from now? Are you feeling optimistic? Doomer? Like things are really going to go sour? I've been talking to a lot of people I know personally about it and I've been pretty surprised by how many people have an optimistic outlook on the semi-near future. Even people I know who are usually total doomers.

Though common consensus among all of them is that it'll definitely get worse before it gets better.
 
So what are your general thoughts and attitudes towards the future, as in 5 - 10 years from now? Are you feeling optimistic? Doomer? Like things are really going to go sour? I've been talking to a lot of people I know personally about it and I've been pretty surprised by how many people have an optimistic outlook on the semi-near future. Even people I know who are usually total doomers.

Though common consensus among all of them is that it'll definitely get worse before it gets better.
A better vaccine will come out as our understanding of the mechanism of action of the virus increases. Wheter we'd have to take a shot yearly from now on till we die... I dunno. But masks and lockdowns won't be making it past 2022. Then again, christmas is close, and you know what that means.
 
So what are your general thoughts and attitudes towards the future, as in 5 - 10 years from now? Are you feeling optimistic? Doomer? Like things are really going to go sour? I've been talking to a lot of people I know personally about it and I've been pretty surprised by how many people have an optimistic outlook on the semi-near future. Even people I know who are usually total doomers.

Though common consensus among all of them is that it'll definitely get worse before it gets better.
Depends on how the next 6 months to a year shake out. TPTB are desperately trying to keep a lid on the rumblings of a highly discontented working class that hates the "new normal." 700k people walked out of work and didn't go back, truckers, dock workers, waiters, construction workers, airline workers and air traffic controllers are striking in various places to resist the vax. Even some public unions have just said "no we're not lol" when told about the federal mandate.

If that actually boils over into mass populism at the ballot box, I'm very optimistic. If it ends up being contained it's going to get much worse.
 
Interesting French opinion piece on how the Covid virus seems to shorten telomeres and induce increased aging- and exploring whether or not the spike protein may be responsible for it. Of course, that might have some implications on the vaccines themselves...
When put as "increased aging" it sounds like a SciFi super weapon. It's not that it's making us rapidly age but that it's accelerating the degredation of our cells' functions, in this case screwing with our DNA. As for shortening telomeres, it's important to remember what a telomere is:
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So let me get this correct: The claim in this article isn't simply that the spike protein, or the virus itself, is liable to cause any number of neurological, respiratory and especially vascular reactions due to the mechanisms at work. Their claim is that on top of all these there is the potential for it to cause damage to a person's very genes?
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Talk about a nightmare. I'm gonna need a bit to read through this. Although in the context of the subject I do find it kinda funny they referenced a Chinese proverb.

I am loving the new subtitle for this thread.
lol Whoever did that must have a fun sense of humor. Or they have a weird word-association Pavlovian response of "autism" to anything vaccine related. Hopefully the former cause it's a funny tagline. Since you're here, what do you think about all this? Thoughts on what's been provided thus far?

So what are your general thoughts and attitudes towards the future, as in 5 - 10 years from now?
Can't even tell what's gonna happen a month from now these days. It's clear that either things will improve by half a mile or the world as we know it is gonna go bust and those nations which didn't go nuts will divide up the spoils of what's left. This current stage of things cannot last. It's utterly unsustainable in every way, especially economic. But that's for another thread.

Unless the current focus is given a sudden and drastic shift, like if China decides to sling one of those nukes it apparently flew around the world recently, thing will only continue as they are until something gives, better or worse. I'm pessimistic about the world but optimistic personally. Just because the house is on fire doesn't mean we have to burn down with it.
 
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