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My Branch Covidian government...

Here's our glorious leader....
That guy looks like the same kid who got stuffed into every locker in his high school, whined hard, worked his way up to a job with the previous NSW premiere....And now you assholes have this:
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I got a good laugh watching a YouTube interview with an Australian the other day. The synopsis was: "Look....I know westerners have this idea of us, that we are these strong individuals, and although that is mostly true, what Australians really want most is to know someone else is in control of their lives and keeping them safe." I can't find the clip.

So much for Crocodile Dundee you faggots. Hollywood actually made a bunch of Australians into a restaurant. Hell, your country was pissed when the US Marines and Navy in 1942 coming back from WINNING Guadalcanal and Midway, also came in and took all your women....after defending you from the Japanese, and it got to the point that there were riots and major brawls: https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Brisbane

This is why American's don't have a parliament, and have guns if the people we elect try, you dolts. (Present company excluded.)
 
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Ontarian here. I'm so fucking sick of vaccine passports. I'm supposed to enforce them at my job, but I've been slacking, and my boss is getting up my ass about it. I told him that I feel incredibly uncomfortable asking people for that information, and that it feels like an invasion of privacy, because, well, it is. He said, "yeah, but it's the law, so we have to do it." I don't give a shit if it's the law. Just because something is legal, does not mean that it's morally correct. I believe that people should have a fundamental right to privacy, especially regarding their medical information. The notion of vaccine passports flies in the face of that. No restaurant/bar/movie theatre should have any right to ask people for medical information, and decide whether or not they should be allowed to utilize their services. based on that information You either allow access to all, regardless of medical history, or you allow access to none. Makes me sick that we're supposed to discriminate based on this, and I'm expected to play gestapo. If Big Daddy Dougie wants gestapo so bad, then he should just hire actual gestapo, and quit expecting a poor bastard like me to do it. I actually have this theory though, that they're trying to make the shit jobs worse and worse to make people quit and suckle at the teet of the government. I don't know, guys. I'm just pissed off about all this, and any time I voice my concerns about the rights I feel are being violated I get hit with a, "but it's for public health!!!" At what point should public health take precedence over the rights of the individual? I don't know, I'm just some schmuck on the internet, but I feel as though a lot of personal rights have been violated in the name of "public health," over the past couple years, and even though it's all theatre, we're not allowed to question it. I'm just so tired. Sorry for the blog post.

tl;dr: fuck vaccine passports, and fuck Doug Ford
should ask him "if the law said we could not service someone because of their race or sex, would you still follow the law?"

you have my sympathy Canada bro. its weird my country is not that crazy and it can be pretty crazy.
 
Apologies if someone has already said this but I have two predictions:

Right now they are forcing us to take the vaccine. What happens once we are all a few boosters in? I think they will engineer a scenario where people are desperate to take the boosters to save themselves and they will use that to keep people tethered closely to the government and also withhold them as a punishment for a low social credit score.

Right now the social medias are doing something that is barely covered for some reason and that is forcing you to give them your phone number to be able to use the platforms (what happens if you don't own a phone?). I reckon that soon you will have to input your international vaccine ID to gain posting access to social media sites (to prevent ANTI VAXXORS from posting FAKE NEWS).


Not to sound like a doomer but it does appear that this 10 year globalist communist ride has come to an end and all we have left is to suffer through decades of living as slaves in a bleak world. When does it get to the point where it's better to leave this world than to push on?
 
Apologies if someone has already said this but I have two predictions:

Right now they are forcing us to take the vaccine. What happens once we are all a few boosters in? I think they will engineer a scenario where people are desperate to take the boosters to save themselves and they will use that to keep people tethered closely to the government and also withhold them as a punishment for a low social credit score.

Right now the social medias are doing something that is barely covered for some reason and that is forcing you to give them your phone number to be able to use the platforms (what happens if you don't own a phone?). I reckon that soon you will have to input your international vaccine ID to gain posting access to social media sites (to prevent ANTI VAXXORS from posting FAKE NEWS).


Not to sound like a doomer but it does appear that this 10 year globalist communist ride has come to an end and all we have left is to suffer through decades of living as slaves in a bleak world. When does it get to the point where it's better to leave this world than to push on?
LOL. Nope.

All you have to do is spend time with people and realize, they all smell the bullshit, and will not let this ever be a thing long term. At least here in the United States. Mostly, people are watching all these policies fail, damn their jobs, and waiting to see what happens next. The President is falling apart moment by moment. There is no reason to rise up against that.
 
At this point I'm genuinely hoping for a hard economic crash. Brutal worse-than-2008 level stuff.

Why? I want people to be made to face reality. I want people to suffer. I want people to realize that they simply don't have time for this nonsense anymore, and that they need to focus on fixing the system rather than wallowing in all this nonsense. I want the entire engine that keeps this artificial gibberish afloat to be smashed at the foundations, so all the silly agreements and under-the-table deals which enable this fake pseudo-economy to function are knocked down all at once.

I'm ready. I'm secure. I can deal with this. I'm tired of the lies.
 
OCTOBER 19, 2021

March 11, 2020, was the day the world stopped. The World Health Organization declared COVID-19 a global pandemic. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson announced that they had the virus and were quarantining in Australia. In Los Angeles County, where I live, all gyms and bars were quickly closed, and a week later California Gov. Gavin Newsom issued a statewide stay-at-home order, urging 40 million residents to shelter in place.
While normal people tried to figure out how to juggle work, child care, and living under the same roof for 24 hours a day, celebrities were having a ball. Locked up with only their phones and without their handlers, the public was treated to an unfiltered parade of narcissism on fire. Distraught about the postponement of Coachella, Vanessa Hudgens took to Instagram Live to lament that “like, yeah, people are gonna die.” Gal Gadot talked about how “we’re all in this together” and gathered a celebrity cast to sing a horrifying version of “Imagine” from their sprawling mansions.
But no one does complete lack of self-awareness like Madonna. Not to be outdone in the tone-deaf celebrity video genre, she took to Instagram on March 22, 2020, naked in a tub filled with water and pink rose petals. As slow piano music played in the background, she described the virus as “the great equalizer.”
“That’s the thing about COVID-19,” she said. “It doesn’t care about how rich you are, how famous you are, how funny you are, how smart you are, where you live, how old you are, what amazing stories you can tell. It’s the great equalizer.” She finished this philosophical rambling by concluding that, “what’s terrible” about the virus is also “what’s great about it.”
The working class recognized what a joke this was from day one. Overnight they became “essential workers,” the heroes who never stopped working through the whole pandemic because they couldn’t. The nurses. The caretakers. The grocery store workers. Firemen. Policemen. Sanitation workers. For these Americans, their jobs only got harder, more dangerous, and more regulated. Their lives at home also became more complicated. Who would care for their children, now home from school, while they continued working? How would they protect their elderly family members? How could they keep their families safe from COVID-19 while coming and going from public-facing jobs?
Despite Madonna’s bathtub prophecy, COVID-19 absolutely cared about how old you are. In fact, the older you are, the more deadly the virus. It also cared about your weight, your job, your preexisting health conditions, your race, where you live, and your socioeconomic status. Not only did low-income minority communities suffer disproportionate consequences in mortality rates, but they also suffered the greatest social and economic repercussions.
Meanwhile, the upper class spent the entire pandemic thanking essential workers for their sacrifice, clapping for the hospital workers from the doorsteps of their West Village brownstones and saluting the Postmates drivers dropping off their $25 bone broth. Of course, while they were patting the poor on the back, they also were padding their pockets. Many studies show that upper-income families only improved their financial circumstances during the pandemic.
Clearly, COVID-19 wasn’t exactly the great equalizer. In fact, it was the exact opposite, revealing existing structural inequalities—many of which were only deepened by the public health response to the virus. Now, as the debate moves from school closures and Zoom workplaces to vaccines and mandates, the policies catering to the “pajama class” and hurting vulnerable people continue—and the delusional, self-serving rhetoric surrounding them only grows more poisonous.

From the outset of the pandemic, there were two types of people: people who could work from home and people who couldn’t. Those people who didn’t have the luxury of working from their couch made it possible for the millions of people who were able to shelter in place and post pictures of their sourdough on Instagram. In my Los Angeles neighborhood, even at the height of the pandemic, a week didn’t pass without the sound of a gardener’s leaf blower, and the nannies I recognized from their daily walks with the children were there when the rest of the city was eerily quiet. Women got manicures in their backyard. Pajama workers got their car washed in their driveways by remote services and their toilet paper delivered through Amazon Prime. There was a dumbbell shortage as everyone attempted to combat the banana bread pounds by beefing up their home gyms.
Meanwhile, in an effort to “protect” its citizens, California began mandating militant public health policies. Public parks were closed, leaving little outdoor space for people crammed in tight quarters in dense urban centers. Schools shut down, leaving families who still had to go to work and couldn’t afford high-speed Wi-Fi and devices for each child to figure out how to get their kids to Zoom school. The local Vietnamese mom and pop, and countless other small businesses, were closed, but the mega-Walmart was allowed to stay open. At their core, these policies were structurally racist and classist, and yet there was no outcry.
Instead, there was a yawning disconnect between the lip service paid to these “vulnerable populations” and the passionate support for policies that hurt them. Going into the pandemic, the liberal media had already spent the Trump presidency talking about how America was a systemically racist country. And when the George Floyd protests kicked off, these condemnations reached a fever pitch.
Black Lives Matter signs appeared all over neighborhoods in Los Angeles. In order to justify millions of Americans marching and yelling en masse in the middle of a pandemic, dozens of public health and disease experts signed a letter that said, “White supremacy is a lethal public health issue that predates and contributes to COVID-19.” Articles highlighting how Blacks and Latinos had a higher death rate from COVID-19 addressed many long-term inequalities like lack of access to health care, or social factors like living in crowded environments, taking public transportation, and having jobs in which they were exposed to the public more often.
These factors are absolutely true, but you wouldn’t know it from the public health response in liberal cities. Retweeting the open letter about white supremacy from the couch while protesting school reopenings aimed at getting vulnerable students back into physical classrooms was just more high-minded lip service. As Batya Ungar-Sargon writes in her forthcoming book, Bad News, “[Liberal elites] needed a way to be perpetually on what they saw as the right side of history without having to disrupt what was right for them and their children. A moral panic around race was the perfect solution: It took the guilt that they should have felt about their economic good fortune and political power—which they could have shared with the less fortunate had they cared to—and displaced it onto their whiteness, an immutable characteristic that they could do absolutely nothing to change.”

Now, of course, vaccines and mandates are the talk of the town, and the class-driven divide between the working class and the elites continues to grow unchecked. Almost overnight when the Biden administration took over, we went from “America is racist to its core” to “trust the government implicitly, take your shot, and show your papers.” Los Angeles County just passed one of the most sweeping vaccine mandates in the country, requiring the shots for everything from bars to gyms to indoor city facilities.
You’ll be forgiven if you suffered narrative whiplash. The sneering contempt many in the left-wing pundit class have demonstrated in their recent rhetoric about the “unvaccinated,” many of whom are lower-income people of color, is in direct opposition to the years of “diversity, equity, and inclusion.” These days, the men and women who worked through the whole pandemic are being shamed and patronized by the very people whose cushy existences they facilitated for a year and a half. The liberal elites who holed up in the Hamptons and didn’t have contact with the outside world for a year are ready to get back to their SoulCycle classes, even if it means firing a few people they once called “frontline heroes.” The irony of the same people who screamed in the faces of policemen at the height of a pandemic turning around to demand that these cops now shut up, stop asking questions, and get vaccinated is almost too much to bear.
Apparently, it’s difficult to comprehend that the people who never stopped working while you were in your bubble, who bore the greatest risk throughout the whole pandemic, are making their own calculated decisions about getting a vaccine. As a society, we seem chronically unwilling to take their arguments and reservations into account (let alone scientific considerations like natural immunity—the vulnerable populations that suffered the most deaths also suffered the largest rates of infection. It’s not out of the question that many already had the virus).
The discourse in the media makes it sound like these criticisms are aimed at the right-wing anti-vaxxer population—and that might be true on a countrywide level—but the numbers tell the truest story about who will be most disproportionately affected by draconian mandates. In L.A. County, only 54% of the Black population and 62% of the “Latinx” population have received at least one dose of the vaccine. Despite all the resources the city ostensibly devotes to equity and inclusion, it’s clear that these minority populations will be most affected by the mandates. If Black lives matter to you so much, shouldn’t you care that Black people will be excluded from restaurants and movie theaters and nail salons?
From my perspective, this is state-sanctioned discrimination, and the righteous moralizing from the pajama class is the highest form of limousine liberal hypocrisy. Aiming uncharitable and derisive rhetoric at the very people you have been screaming should have a seat at the table is a tone-deaf disgrace. It seems like in Los Angeles County, the signs calling essential workers heroes really mean “if you do what we say.”
 
That guy looks like the same kid who got stuffed into every locker in his high school, whined hard, worked his way up to a job with the previous NSW premiere....And now you assholes have this:
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I got a good laugh watching a YouTube interview with an Australian the other day. The synopsis was: "Look....I know westerners have this idea of us, that we are these strong individuals, and although that is mostly true, what Australians really want most is to know someone else is in control of their lives and keeping them safe." I can't find the clip.

So much for Crocodile Dundee you faggots. Hollywood actually made a bunch of Australians into a restaurant. Hell, your country was pissed when the US Marines and Navy in 1942 coming back from WINNING Guadalcanal and Midway, also came in and took all your women....after defending you from the Japanese, and it got to the point that there were riots and major brawls: https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Brisbane

This is why American's don't have a parliament, and have guns if the people we elect try, you dolts. (Present company excluded.)


I'm not going to defend the behaviour of my countrymen at this point but our parliament was in fact modelled on the US congress
 
I'm not going to defend the behaviour of my countrymen at this point but our parliament was in fact modelled on the US congress
No they took the names from the US Congress, House of Reps and Senate, but we operate under a Westminster system.

That guy looks like the same kid who got stuffed into every locker in his high school, whined hard, worked his way up to a job with the previous NSW premiere....And now you assholes have this:
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I got a good laugh watching a YouTube interview with an Australian the other day. The synopsis was: "Look....I know westerners have this idea of us, that we are these strong individuals, and although that is mostly true, what Australians really want most is to know someone else is in control of their lives and keeping them safe." I can't find the clip.

So much for Crocodile Dundee you faggots. Hollywood actually made a bunch of Australians into a restaurant. Hell, your country was pissed when the US Marines and Navy in 1942 coming back from WINNING Guadalcanal and Midway, also came in and took all your women....after defending you from the Japanese, and it got to the point that there were riots and major brawls: https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Brisbane

This is why American's don't have a parliament, and have guns if the people we elect try, you dolts. (Present company excluded.)
He may look like Benedict Cumbermunch on an Atkins diet but he's just knocked his missus up for the 7th time. Under the radar Chad levels. Like all Aussie politicians he's a globohomo dick sucker but not a total psychopath.

At this point I'm genuinely hoping for a hard economic crash. Brutal worse-than-2008 level stuff.

Why? I want people to be made to face reality. I want people to suffer. I want people to realize that they simply don't have time for this nonsense anymore, and that they need to focus on fixing the system rather than wallowing in all this nonsense. I want the entire engine that keeps this artificial gibberish afloat to be smashed at the foundations, so all the silly agreements and under-the-table deals which enable this fake pseudo-economy to function are knocked down all at once.

I'm ready. I'm secure. I can deal with this. I'm tired of the lies.
You won't have much longer to wait. Best case scenario is that they decide that Covid is done and everyone gets back to work. Then we'll only have a horrific recession to look forward to. Worst case they keep this madness going.
 
It really, really doesn't work:

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I had to look up exactly what Relative Risk Reduction (RRR) and Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR) are. They're standard measurements used for assessing all medical treatments in randomized controlled trials. This textbook explains it well and simply: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK63647/ (https://archive.md/pyDSk)

Their example is for a hypothetical randomized trial for a new treatment: 20% of their control group (C) got infected, whereas 12% of the group who got the treatment (T) got infected.

This makes the ARR 8%. That's 20%-12%, the difference of infections between control (C) and treated (T) group.
The RRR is 40%: the formula to get to that is 1-(T/C), so in this example 1-(12%/20%) = 1-(0.6) = 0.4 = 40%

So basically, RRR = 1-(T/C) and ARR = C-T

Rearrange that and you have C = ARR/RRR, and T = ARR/RRR - ARR

For the Covid vaccines we have the ARR and the RRR.

For example in Pfizer: RRR = 0.95, ARR = 0.0084. So you have C = 0.0084/0.95 = 0.01053, and T = 0.01053-0.0084 = 0.0021

So let's say the Pfizer study used 100'000 people in each group (control and treatment). That means that 1053 people in the non-vaccinated group got Covid, whereas 210 people got sick (breakthrough?) despite having the vaccination. So about a fifth. I wouldn't say it "really really doesn't work" but it still seems a bit suboptimal. I don't know how it compares to other traditional vaccines.

Maybe I'm completely off with my maths, correct me if I'm wrong.

The conclusion is that you need both the ARR and the RRR to get a better picture of how the trial worked, if you don't know the percentages that were infected in the two groups.

Why Reuters couldn't just post the simple calculation I just did but instead posted this inconclusive word salad as a "debunk" instead is beyond me: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-thelancet-riskreduction-idUSL2N2NK1XA (https://archive.md/5EOw5)
 
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At this point I'm genuinely hoping for a hard economic crash. Brutal worse-than-2008 level stuff.

Why? I want people to be made to face reality. I want people to suffer. I want people to realize that they simply don't have time for this nonsense anymore, and that they need to focus on fixing the system rather than wallowing in all this nonsense. I want the entire engine that keeps this artificial gibberish afloat to be smashed at the foundations, so all the silly agreements and under-the-table deals which enable this fake pseudo-economy to function are knocked down all at once.

I'm ready. I'm secure. I can deal with this. I'm tired of the lies.
I hope that electroshock will also affect lots of bureaucrats like state employees and unions teachers as well.
 
Yep, it's true. I killed colin powel by being unvaccinated. I'm on the other side of the atlantic and haven't travelled to the US for a decade, but I did it. Me. My unvaccinated body reached across oceans and time to strangle him in his sleep and poison his blood.
 
At this point I'm genuinely hoping for a hard economic crash. Brutal worse-than-2008 level stuff.

Why? I want people to be made to face reality. I want people to suffer. I want people to realize that they simply don't have time for this nonsense anymore, and that they need to focus on fixing the system rather than wallowing in all this nonsense. I want the entire engine that keeps this artificial gibberish afloat to be smashed at the foundations, so all the silly agreements and under-the-table deals which enable this fake pseudo-economy to function are knocked down all at once.

I'm ready. I'm secure. I can deal with this. I'm tired of the lies.
More than anything.

I work with people whose ability to grasp the outside world is pretty diminished, so I was un-surprised that I had to explain over lunch one day that China's real estate market was going tits up, 2/3rds of the country was without power, alongside India, fuel was going through the roof and that the global supply chain was breaking down.

The looks of utter confusion on their faces signalled that when the crash hits (I'm hoping in the next week) that they're all going to freak the fuck out and panic. I'll probably head to the pub one last time before I'm prevented from drinking at restaurants.
You won't have much longer to wait. Best case scenario is that they decide that Covid is done and everyone gets back to work. Then we'll only have a horrific recession to look forward to. Worst case they keep this madness going.
I wonder who will fuck it up worse? Your idiot Prime Minister or ours? The upshot being that no one will give a shit about this pandemic until the ADE kicks in hard.
 
Right now the social medias are doing something that is barely covered for some reason and that is forcing you to give them your phone number to be able to use the platforms (what happens if you don't own a phone?). I reckon that soon you will have to input your international vaccine ID to gain posting access to social media sites (to prevent ANTI VAXXORS from posting FAKE NEWS).
I got locked out of my facebook account a few months ago that was old as dirt and the only way to truly retrieve it (cause I didn't set up any of the back up shit cause it didn't exist in 2008/9) is to send in my ID to "prove" I am who I say I am. Fuck that, I just won't use your platform.
 
Latest is uk.gov has been ruling out "plan b" of bringing back mask requirements, implementing vaccine passports and some form of soft lockdown. Javid is now holding a sudden press conference some time this afternoon, so there's a high chance princess nutnuts has got her claws into boris and scrote-crushed him into another u-turn.
 
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