Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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Why lowered expectations ? should have gone with curb your enthusiasm.
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Virginia post, skip if you want:
Other operatives seem to have told him he's wrongand to stop blabbing.
From the general registrar of Fairfax:
Still not sure if that means we're getting real-time updates or not.
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Now despite all this, GOP/Youngkin seem confident that they've got some traps laid:
Now for some hopium. Even if Youngkin loses, he has ALL the momentum right now.
Just look how much Youngkin gained on education. This is also at the same time that more voters are listing education as a higher priority for them, while fewer are listing COVID. Couldn't find the reference for that.
Some early voting trends (grain of salt on these, since Virginia does not have party registration; these are based on voter files, I believe)
(VPAP.org)
Terry tried to staunch the bleeding with a bizarre ad saying he actually loves parents. The Youngkin campaign pounced.
An attempt to counterattack was made. They're trying to hype this up, but I don't think it's working out for them.
this is so srs u guiz.........
A meme.
Yes, this is the only source I've seen for Fairfax delaying.
Other operatives seem to have told him he's wrong
From the general registrar of Fairfax:
Still not sure if that means we're getting real-time updates or not.
Archive | Link
Now despite all this, GOP/Youngkin seem confident that they've got some traps laid:
That seems to be the case. They have been recruiting poll watchers pretty aggressively.
So this is about Fairfax asking the governor to extend the emergency COVID mandate to allow them to drop the witness requirement. Northam has not taken them up on that. Everyone knows the emergency is over, even if you still wanna mask up, and Northam not even responding to them might suggest that they just don't have the cover to run any dirty tricks this year. This is a hail Mary, basically.
Now for some hopium. Even if Youngkin loses, he has ALL the momentum right now.
Just look how much Youngkin gained on education. This is also at the same time that more voters are listing education as a higher priority for them, while fewer are listing COVID. Couldn't find the reference for that.
Some early voting trends (grain of salt on these, since Virginia does not have party registration; these are based on voter files, I believe)
(VPAP.org)
Terry tried to staunch the bleeding with a bizarre ad saying he actually loves parents. The Youngkin campaign pounced.
An attempt to counterattack was made. They're trying to hype this up, but I don't think it's working out for them.
this is so srs u guiz.........
A meme.
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Stuff like this is why I say that the mere fact that things are this close in VA is a really bad sign for the Democrats and their chances in the 2022 mid-terms. If a state that was leaning blue in the last few elections has this kind of close race, imagine how the actual swing states could look in a year.
:edit: For a bit more context regarding the election in VA, here are the results for the last election that McAuliffe was running in. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...r_cuccinelli_vs_mcauliffe_vs_sarvis-4111.html Note that while McAuliffe won this election, obviously, he underperformed the RCP polling average by slightly more than 4 points. In fairness, this was a three way race and the current election in VA isn't, but he still did worse than all the polls were saying he would. This is probably why the Dems are scared and trying to "fortify" the election again.
Contrast the above with the polls as they stand right now, in the race against Youngkin. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...inia_governor_youngkin_vs_mcauliffe-7373.html If McAuliffe underperforms like he did last time, it's bad news for the Democrats, bad news that election "fortification" may not be able to prevent.
In fairness, I suppose I should point out that Northam did very well in 2017, ( https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ginia_governor_gillespie_vs_northam-6197.html )and theoretically McAuliffe could do that well too if the whole attempt to paint Youngkin as a minitrump pays off and gets all the swamp critters in NOVA to turn out for him.
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Except for the 'trad catholics' which is 99% twitter LARPing.
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What is your opinion on which other countries will be part of the next rat race to superpower status? As you already mentioned, China has a head start here especially with their manufacturing prowess and influence in Africa but as @MarvinTheParanoidAndroid alluded to in his post, their position is precarious at best given that they are nowhere near as stable as the US was when it rose to power after WW2.
I don't particularly see India in a strong position in this race for a while ("superpower 2020" notwithstanding) because they do not have much external influence like China does with Africa. The country has too many internal problems it needs to deal with first and each state has its own language/culture that limits the type of unity that would allow for it to establish itself as a superpower. In addition, while the manufacturing/innovation prowess is increasing it still depends on external investments. Their most valuable export is human labor (in the form of IT) and they only have the advantage here because English is taught as a primary language in all schools. And sure, we might see Indians at the head of major multinationals but that's not really serving to make their native country a superpower.
As for the EU bloc, it seems to me that they are betting on immigration to keep themselves afloat but the vast majority of the immigrants they're importing are leeches at best and destructive at worst. At least with the US, we are/were getting a significant number of immigrants who were net feeding into the tax system. I don't think the same can be said for EU countries. UK/France/Germany seem to be falling to similar issues as the US and the rest of the countries are more or less are dependent on these three to sustain themselves.
I'm not particularly familiar with Russia's economics or society to comment on whether they would re-establish themselves as the premier global force. They certainly exert their military influence in their surrounding countries but as far as economic and cultural influence, I'm not so sure.
Coming to South America, most countries with the exception of Brazil seem to be on the verge of collapse every few years. I'm not familiar with the internal politics of Brazil but I suspect the country is more culturally homogenous than India purely because they have one unifying language. That should give them some advantage in establishing themselves but they shoot themselves in the foot with their internal corruption.
Not sure what country can come out of Africa. Most of the well-to-do countries on that continent are supported in some fashion by either western or chinese investments. What happens to Africa when western countries or China need to withdraw because their own countries are in turmoil.
Given the shitshow Australia is going through, I don't expect much from there.
Ultimately, to me it seems like it's all heading in a direction where the new "superpower" will ultimately be less of a superpower than the US was in the 20th century. I think it's still understated how much influence the US had culturally/economically/militarily all over the world and I'm not sure we'll see another country with the same type of influence in our lifetimes. "America" still means something to a lot of people (smug euros excluded) even with all of the horseshit that goes on here. It will certainly be interesting to see what the new global economic/cultural hegemony will be. Perhaps it'll be a nation that doesn't exist yet.
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If America were to lose influence, so would the pressure keeping Russia and Germany apart and you'd likely see Bismarck's original vision of Russia and Germany as co-hegemons of Europe come to pass. Germany provides advanced industry and Russia provides raw materials.
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You should look to the pre World War I geopolitics for this. Back then, the concept of a superpower was absurd. Sure, the British Empire was the largest in the world, but it was hardly invulnerable and was forced to play nice with its continental neighbours. I think the USA will be slotting into this role for the foreseeable future, except that they have the ability to tell the world to fuck off and go full autarky/isolationist.
In other regions of the world, we'd probably see a reversion to spheres of influences around the biggest countries of the region. China would dominate SEA, Japan would hold the Far East, India will hold the subcontinent + SEA, EU will start leaning on Eastern Europe + North Africa as they used to, etc. Africa will be Africa and divvied up again. The only tricky one is South America. I dont think the US will let go of their influence there, even if Brazil or whoever may think otherwise.
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part of this tendency has already started with the Nord2 pipeline going through, despite all the kvetching by the German press. the only thing preventing it are the leftie morons that Germany just elected seeing that as immoral and ofc French blowhards, who can't stand the thought of not being 'dominant' with their frog bladders pumped at full throttle. but when Russia decides to annex more of Ukraine or integrates Belarus, and the Euro part of NATO realizes they can't stop them without a ton of blood if the US isn't there to carry them, it seems pretty likely to me that Russia's relevance/influence in Europe will inexorably increase in the near future as US withdraws from its 'world police' status, whether the eurocucks here want to admit it or not.
I honestly wish they'd start making plans for this inevitable future (who knows...maybe Nord2 is a tacit admission of preparing for it), but so long as the public discourse in the EU is still the usual self-absorbed globohomo bullshit, there could be some serious mistakes made as it blathers around and pretends it can defend eastern europe from Russia's influence, when no one is fooled on the ground (previous decade of Ukranians getting raped says 'hi'). then again, maybe Russia's military is also likely going to stay far too shit to go much further than Belarus and Ukraine while striking secret deals with the EU too...idk.
I certainly don't see them becoming anything more than a regional power with a ton of resources, tho. Putin would have to go for that and he's not willing to leave any time soon. the only country that has even a sliver of a chance of becoming the new global power would be China, despite the domestic tightrope that they are currently walking and repressing...maybe Japan if they rediscover their old fanatical fervor lol.
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The intention of the founding fathers was for the USA states to all act more or less like a bunch of tiny separate countries held together by the thin glue of the federal government.
Over the years states rights have lessened while the federal government has ballooned in size. When states start going their own way and ignoring federal laws, this is not some kind of "divorce" or prelude to civil war. It is just the states taking back the power that was always supposed to be theirs in the first place.
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All of this talk about the return of a multipolar world, redrawing of borders, China trying crazy shit, mass shortages, and nearly $8/gal of gas reminds me of something. Weren't we supposed to be mad and butthurt over nothing and we wouldn't notice anything different and everything would be the same as the last decade and we were overreacting?
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Unfortunately, that argument was irreparably damaged after the Union defeated the illegal insurrection movement that wrongly thought that state congresses could secede and separate Americans from America. Lincoln's legal arguments became codified by the barrel of a gun, but codified they are, nonetheless. While the federal government ought to lack primacy in any given state for non interstate issues, they effectively act as primate in all states, as long as our national congress okays federal supremacy for any given action.
You aren't going to put the toothpaste back in the tube without social unrest so severe that the federal executive and legislative bodies lose their mandate.
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Well you do have conservative Catholics like most of the Catholics I know form my church are. Those ones tend to despise the democrat catholic politcations. That's why I was shocked when this thread told me Catholics are majority democrat? Because I never saw that in my personal life. Hell the catholic channel is heavily aginst democrats. So you have to understand my confusion.
Also about China. I find it very stupid that they are starting to sound like North Korea is a very odd move. Since their whole thing was how they aren't like Russia or North Korea which got more people to favor them and made others seem crazy. So the fact they decided to drop the act is pretty dumb to me.
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For anyone unaware, DeBlasio yesterday set the vaccine mandate for NYPD & FDNY (same chopping block as teachers and nurses). But it looks like the NYPD/FDNY unions plan to take legal action against it.
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I am not saying that the US is going to definitively revert to some pre civil war form of government, I don't think that is likely. I am just saying that there is a long tradition of states rights vs federal authority in this country and that the current happenings (like 2nd amendment sanctuaries and states ignoring orders from the federal government) are just a part of that long tradition of tug-of-war.
People from outside of the country see stuff like that and without understanding the history of our nation, think it is a ramp up to balkanization or civil war. Maybe they think that because that's what it would be if it were happening in their country, I don't know though.
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Biden's support fading fast, as CNBC survey finds concerns on the economy, Covid and inflation
Just 41% of the public approve of Biden's handling of the presidency, compared to 52% who disapprove.
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I wonder what parallels could be drawn between the Dems and Labour over in Britain. Labour, for reference, has been an absolute dumpster fire since their last election. Not sure where I heard it but someone once said that Britain is 5 years ahead of America politically, and if so that's a pretty good sign for the GOP.
Didn't CNN publish a poll not long ago saying Biden was at 50% approval? Someone's boss is probably mad right now.Joe only has 41% approval now. A most portentous numberBiden's support fading fast, as CNBC survey finds concerns on the economy, Covid and inflation
Just 41% of the public approve of Biden's handling of the presidency, compared to 52% who disapprove.www.cnbc.com
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The people you know and interact with don't determine the overall trend. Using myself as an example, I'm an Israeli American who spends a ton of time around other Israeli Americans and Orthodox Jews. I know only one person who voted for Joe Biden and that's because she was a tds suffering college student who initially wanted Pete Buttigieg to win. Other than that, all die hard trump supporters but when the numbers came out, 80 percent of Jews voted for Biden. The Orthodox and Israeli expats were shown to have overwhelmingly voted for Trump but their number was so small it didn't do much against the greater ethnoreligious population.
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Calling Sinema an Obstacle to Progress, 5 Veterans Quit Her Advisory Council
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The furious members accused the Arizona Democrat of “answering to big donors rather than your own people,” in the latest sign of the political pressure she faces.
WASHINGTON — Five veterans tapped to advise Senator Kyrsten Sinema, an Arizona Democrat, resigned from their posts on Thursday, publicly accusing her of “hanging your constituents out to dry” in the latest sign of growing hostility toward a centrist who has emerged as a key holdout on President Biden’s agenda.
In a scathing letter obtained by The New York Times, the veterans took Ms. Sinema to task for her refusal to abolish the filibuster and her opposition to parts of Mr. Biden’s multitrillion-dollar social safety net, education, climate and tax plan, stances that have stymied some of his top priorities.
“You have become one of the principal obstacles to progress, answering to big donors rather than your own people,” the veterans wrote in a letter that is to be featured in a new advertisement by Common Defense, a progressive veterans’ activist group that has targeted Ms. Sinema.
“We shouldn’t have to buy representation from you, and your failure to stand by your people and see their urgent needs is alarming,” they added.
The resignations add to a crescendo of anger and pressure that Ms. Sinema is facing from erstwhile allies who say they are perplexed by her recent tactics. She has resisted major elements of Democrats’ sprawling social safety net and climate bill, including raising individual income and corporate tax rates to pay for it. Because Democrats control the Senate with only 50 votes, even one defection could spell defeat for the measure, giving Ms. Sinema outsize influence to determine what can be included.
Ms. Sinema has also steadfastly opposed changing the Senate’s filibuster rule, which effectively requires 60 votes to move forward on any major bill, even as Republicans have used it as a procedural weapon to block voting rights legislation and a bill to avert a federal debt default.
Progressive activists have stepped up their campaign to push Democrats to do away with the rule so they can muscle Mr. Biden’s priorities through Congress on simple majority votes, and they have trained their anger on Ms. Sinema and another centrist holdout, Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia.
But while Mr. Manchin hails from a conservative state where he is unlikely to pay a price for breaking with Mr. Biden, Ms. Sinema’s stances have earned her a backlash from onetime supporters in a politically competitive state that is roughly split among Republicans, Democrats and independents.
The veterans who are making a public divorce from her on Thursday have sat on Ms. Sinema’s advisory council since 2019, as part of a group of 20 she selected as her office’s liaison to the Arizona service member community.
“Democrats were out desperately trying to help her win the seat, and now we feel like, what was it for?” Sylvia González Andersh, one of the veterans who signed the letter, said in an interview. “Nobody knows what she is thinking because she doesn’t tell anybody anything. It’s very sad to think that someone who you worked for that hard to get elected is not even willing to listen.”
Ms. Andersh is featured in the advertisement reading aloud the resignation letter, with its harsh assessments of Ms. Sinema. Common Defense, which in recent weeks placed a seven-figure ad buy to pressure Ms. Sinema to support the reconciliation bill, said it would invest another seven figures to aid the new spot.
Ms. Sinema said in a statement that she would “always remain grateful for these individuals’ service to our nation,” and had valued their input to her work.
“While it is unfortunate that apparent disagreement on separate policy issues has led to this decision,” she said, “I thank them for their service and will continue working every day to deliver for Arizona’s veterans who have sacrificed so much to keep us safe and secure.”
A spokeswoman for Ms. Sinema said the senator and her team had engaged in “many” policy discussions with members of the advisory council on a number of issues, including those related to veterans.
Ms. Sinema has come under mounting pressure in recent weeks. She has been mobbed at airports and followed into a restroom by progressive activists who say she is blocking once-in-a-generation change and refusing to meet with them to explain why.
Ms. Sinema condemned the bathroom encounter as “wholly inappropriate” and suggested that it was, at least in part, a result of the heated debate that has surrounded Mr. Biden’s agenda. But she has not found a chorus of defenders from her own party. Top Senate Democrats failed to reach agreement on a statement of outrage on her behalf.
Common Defense’s advertisement, while born from the same progressive frustration, takes a different tack, aiming to erode support for Ms. Sinema among one of her main constituencies.
For years, Ms. Sinema has tried to model herself after Senator John McCain, a Republican combat veteran and former prisoner of war who died in 2018, emphasizing her support for veterans, more than 500,000 of whom live in Arizona. Serving on the Veterans’ Affairs Committee, she has shepherded several bipartisan bills that expanded veterans’ access to health care.
Critics have blasted Ms. Sinema’s ties to corporate interests, including the financial and advertising support she has received from groups funded by the pharmaceutical industry and other business interests. As she resists a leading proposal to lower prescription drug prices, Ms. Sinema has received about $400,000 from the pharmaceutical and health industries over the last five years, according to OpenSecrets, a nonprofit watchdog group.
In the interview, Ms. Andersh singled out Ms. Sinema’s resistance to the drug-cost measure, which would allow Medicare to negotiate the price of prescription medicines, as a betrayal.
“You left us holding the bag, saying you were going to do something about Big Pharma,” Ms. Andersh said.
The furious members accused the Arizona Democrat of “answering to big donors rather than your own people,” in the latest sign of the political pressure she faces.
WASHINGTON — Five veterans tapped to advise Senator Kyrsten Sinema, an Arizona Democrat, resigned from their posts on Thursday, publicly accusing her of “hanging your constituents out to dry” in the latest sign of growing hostility toward a centrist who has emerged as a key holdout on President Biden’s agenda.
In a scathing letter obtained by The New York Times, the veterans took Ms. Sinema to task for her refusal to abolish the filibuster and her opposition to parts of Mr. Biden’s multitrillion-dollar social safety net, education, climate and tax plan, stances that have stymied some of his top priorities.
“You have become one of the principal obstacles to progress, answering to big donors rather than your own people,” the veterans wrote in a letter that is to be featured in a new advertisement by Common Defense, a progressive veterans’ activist group that has targeted Ms. Sinema.
“We shouldn’t have to buy representation from you, and your failure to stand by your people and see their urgent needs is alarming,” they added.
The resignations add to a crescendo of anger and pressure that Ms. Sinema is facing from erstwhile allies who say they are perplexed by her recent tactics. She has resisted major elements of Democrats’ sprawling social safety net and climate bill, including raising individual income and corporate tax rates to pay for it. Because Democrats control the Senate with only 50 votes, even one defection could spell defeat for the measure, giving Ms. Sinema outsize influence to determine what can be included.
Ms. Sinema has also steadfastly opposed changing the Senate’s filibuster rule, which effectively requires 60 votes to move forward on any major bill, even as Republicans have used it as a procedural weapon to block voting rights legislation and a bill to avert a federal debt default.
Progressive activists have stepped up their campaign to push Democrats to do away with the rule so they can muscle Mr. Biden’s priorities through Congress on simple majority votes, and they have trained their anger on Ms. Sinema and another centrist holdout, Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia.
But while Mr. Manchin hails from a conservative state where he is unlikely to pay a price for breaking with Mr. Biden, Ms. Sinema’s stances have earned her a backlash from onetime supporters in a politically competitive state that is roughly split among Republicans, Democrats and independents.
The veterans who are making a public divorce from her on Thursday have sat on Ms. Sinema’s advisory council since 2019, as part of a group of 20 she selected as her office’s liaison to the Arizona service member community.
“Democrats were out desperately trying to help her win the seat, and now we feel like, what was it for?” Sylvia González Andersh, one of the veterans who signed the letter, said in an interview. “Nobody knows what she is thinking because she doesn’t tell anybody anything. It’s very sad to think that someone who you worked for that hard to get elected is not even willing to listen.”
Ms. Andersh is featured in the advertisement reading aloud the resignation letter, with its harsh assessments of Ms. Sinema. Common Defense, which in recent weeks placed a seven-figure ad buy to pressure Ms. Sinema to support the reconciliation bill, said it would invest another seven figures to aid the new spot.
Ms. Sinema said in a statement that she would “always remain grateful for these individuals’ service to our nation,” and had valued their input to her work.
“While it is unfortunate that apparent disagreement on separate policy issues has led to this decision,” she said, “I thank them for their service and will continue working every day to deliver for Arizona’s veterans who have sacrificed so much to keep us safe and secure.”
A spokeswoman for Ms. Sinema said the senator and her team had engaged in “many” policy discussions with members of the advisory council on a number of issues, including those related to veterans.
Ms. Sinema has come under mounting pressure in recent weeks. She has been mobbed at airports and followed into a restroom by progressive activists who say she is blocking once-in-a-generation change and refusing to meet with them to explain why.
Ms. Sinema condemned the bathroom encounter as “wholly inappropriate” and suggested that it was, at least in part, a result of the heated debate that has surrounded Mr. Biden’s agenda. But she has not found a chorus of defenders from her own party. Top Senate Democrats failed to reach agreement on a statement of outrage on her behalf.
Common Defense’s advertisement, while born from the same progressive frustration, takes a different tack, aiming to erode support for Ms. Sinema among one of her main constituencies.
For years, Ms. Sinema has tried to model herself after Senator John McCain, a Republican combat veteran and former prisoner of war who died in 2018, emphasizing her support for veterans, more than 500,000 of whom live in Arizona. Serving on the Veterans’ Affairs Committee, she has shepherded several bipartisan bills that expanded veterans’ access to health care.
Critics have blasted Ms. Sinema’s ties to corporate interests, including the financial and advertising support she has received from groups funded by the pharmaceutical industry and other business interests. As she resists a leading proposal to lower prescription drug prices, Ms. Sinema has received about $400,000 from the pharmaceutical and health industries over the last five years, according to OpenSecrets, a nonprofit watchdog group.
In the interview, Ms. Andersh singled out Ms. Sinema’s resistance to the drug-cost measure, which would allow Medicare to negotiate the price of prescription medicines, as a betrayal.
“You left us holding the bag, saying you were going to do something about Big Pharma,” Ms. Andersh said.
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Yeah about that vaccine:
It is horseshit.
For those who might not watch: This guy goes through the data and it pretty much shows that the vaccines are not what they are being sold as and proves that Biden is fucking lying.
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