General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[What Bubble]

As for something relevant to the thread. I would say that if anything happens with Tenma's new friends, she'd totally protect Pippa. Even if Fishhead booted the rabbit, Tenma would walk out. But I'm not worried about Fishhead, he'd have booted the rabbit by now. Unless he's exceptional and either knows nothing about what she talks about or has done no research after the fact.

Considering he knows about the pony jar and is fine with Uruka having a clip of finding out about it on her channel, I think he's at least not entirely unaware. At the very least he's not "what's wrong with putting figurines in a jar?" levels of oblivious like the trash bear was.

 

[Eddie IX]

Was just poking around randomly, and found that Pochi-sensei played Beat Saber quite a while ago:

I think it'd be a lot of fun to see some VTubers stream it, since it works so well with 3D models (but these are just short videos with no voice).
Smol Shork would be peak, since she's a rhythm gamer, or one of the JP talents since they all have proper 3D, but I'm thinking it's unlikely for Hololive because of permissions. Maybe best suited for indies.

Spoiler: sperging about permissions

There are a bunch of songs literally made for the game, as far as I know they're public domain with no content-ID, so game permission is good enough for those. But there are also built-in songs that the game has licensed, so they probably wouldn't be able to play those on stream, they'd have to be careful about which are which. They could probably get permissions for the Camellia pack.

For custom songs, there are a good number of high-quality Hololive song maps, but the people mapping them and providing them for free are actually violating Cover's copyright. So they'd be allowed to play them except that it would be like explicitly admitting Cover is ok with the copyright infringement, and that's probably not something they want to do.

The only way around that as far as I can think of would be to privately commission song maps themselves, for at least $300-$500 each.

And then there's mods. If the assumption that Cover needs to seek permission for every single mod they use is true...
For a decent view that won't make people sick to watch, you either need:

• LIV (seen in Pochi's vids), which is watermark-or-pay, but probably easy enough to secure permission for,
• or Camera2 + Custom Avatars (won't do full body tracking but that's probably not necessary), which depend on other mods, and would therefore require permissions from 6 individual mod creators.

Disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, just a sperg. All of the above information may be incorrect, but I said it confidently, so you can believe it anyway.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Okay so I watched the video, I have no clue how people actually fall under the influence of tranny groomers. Nor do I understand how people can be "influenced" to do things by other people. I have seen other people get manipulated and hurt by this sort of thing. But never myself. As Assburgers as I am, even as a 8 year old child if people told me to be mean to my friends I had the awareness to think that I shouldn't listen to fuckers telling me to do that. And that maybe the weird man wearing a dress on MSM messenger telling me to take funny pills should be disregarded. It seems more of a woman thing than anything else. I rarely hear of blokes saying shit like "my friend was toxic and made me be mean to my other friends." But I hear the same variation of "person/thing made me do this nasty thing. It wasn't my fault at all." all the time from female friends and aqaintences and also women on the net. What is the difference between me and them that stops them from just establishing causality for their own actions?

pretty simple: be a nerd loser irl

the allure of a better social position makes people do stupid thing like hate their family and friends or dump life savings into obvious mlm scams or throw jews into ovens.

but its also pippa so ymmv.

 

[One Quick Post]

Imagine if they unironically make Twitlongers/literal documents about Phase-Connect & their 'wrongdoings.' And god forbid they find out about Pippa. Tenma telling them to "get out" would literally just serve to fuel their fight against perceived 'injustice.'

The best case scenario would be them finding out right now, flinging some shit at Phase Connect, and then fucking off. Worst case scenario is they like Tenma and become a major source of viewership and revenue, which gives them the ability to pull the rug out from underneath her and "cancel" her once she slips up and they feel "betrayed," which she will, she already called Chris-chan a "special child" and "mentally challenged."

Funny enough, I'm not too worried about Pippa. These people will get filtered from her streams basically immediately, and it's a lot harder to cancel someone when they have the full support of the overwhelming majority of their audience.

It's the internet in 2021, man. It'll happen. It always happens..

Can't have anything fucking nice anymore.

Ain't that the truth. The few good places still around, like this forum, are constantly under attack. Null should not have to jump through the amount of hoops he does to keep this completely legal website up and running. Eventually there'll be an internet where all discussion happens on hyper-censored social media platforms, and the new generations will grow up not knowing what they're missing.

Am I out of the loop with woke culture or has discourse over pronouns gotten even dumber? Why is he asking the void of the internet what Tenma's pronouns are instead of just sending her a DM? And then why even ask other people if he's going to tag Tenma anyway? How can people not see that this is performative nonsense that would never exist in a real conversation?

Remember back in the good ol' days when you heard a girl's voice and knew she was a girl, and not a "xe/xim/xer genderfluid non-binary?" Seriously, don't these people get tired of all this nonsense? Just talking to each other while walking over these eggshells must get exhausting.

 

[EenGevolg]

In regards to the whole stan thing, it may be a tempting thing to sell your soul to, people like Dream or Corpse Husband have exploded in popularity and money on the backs of stans. Hell, some were willing to sacrifice friendships over it, like Quackity and aksel's relations ending as a result of Quackity being a numberfag. It could also be excused by saying Japan already has its own equivalent of stans deeply rooted within the JP market, like fujoshis or gachikois.

That said, is it really worth essentially poisoning the fanbases even more than they already are, like whatever a fandom equivalent of the Aum Shinrikyo saryn attack would be? Sure, you have your numbers, but they're numbers who would be more than willing to stab you in the back and burn you at the stake if you do something against their will. If you want any examples, look at TommyInnit basically getting chased into therapy by how utterly smeared he was by this culture of literal psychopaths, just for being friends with Jschlatt.

These are primarily children and mentally ill (wo[?])manchildren who have failed to develop basic empathy or regard for another human being, any responsibility, self/impulse control, guilt/remorse, or anything else that would make them realise ruining another human's life and driving them to suicidal tendencies might be kinda fucked up, and that's on top of their delusional grandiosity of pretending to fight for justice of others. To me, that shit is infinitely more terrifying than some /vt/ faggot shitting on someone to take the piss or because his waifu won't acknowledge his cum jar, and no amount of numbers or money could justify actively introducing them to the Vtuber market. If there were any definition of why gatekeeping is a necessity, this would definitely be it.

 

[thhrang]

Considering he knows about the pony jar and is fine with Uruka having a clip of finding out about it on her channel, I think he's at least not entirely unaware. At the very least he's not "what's wrong with putting figurines in a jar?" levels of oblivious like the trash bear was.

Let's not forget, Sakana was naive enough to, at the very least, be complacent in asking Null to take down a doxpost before. He might've gotten more aware as time has progressed, but he has generally been behind the curve in the past.

 

[FlappyBat]

Let's not forget, Sakana was naive enough to be, at the very least, complacent in asking Null to take down a doxpost. He might've gotten more aware as time has progressed, but he has been behind the curve in the past.View attachment 2646347

Unless you've delt with the farms specifically, requesting the website to take down a dox is the normal response. Most websites don't allow that and it being left up is just a matter of the mods or site admin not knowing.

Whoever sent it managed to not sperg hard enough to get their own thread in the take that off the internet section.

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I'm watching Kiara's stream of the new WarioWare. Maybe it's just she has something to focus on and so has less time to be neurotic, but I've been enjoying this stream more than her usual one's.

 

[Scuttle]

The Ethyria UNO collab is scuffed due to Ubisoft's capricious servers fucking Reimu over. Nina recommended switching to a Zatsudan before breaking off into individual streams and I'm kinda really hoping they do because I can't deal with her.

I am TOTALLY fine with Nina doing her Boomer RP shit on her own whilst I pray she cuts it out, but she's literally unavoidable when I'm trying to watch the 3 I can enjoy without clenching my ass cheeks.

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

I don't think I show Ina enough appreciation. She's such a sweetie. I can't believe she and Past Ina are the same person.

In regards to the whole stan thing, it may be a tempting thing to sell your soul to, people like Dream or Corpse Husband have exploded in popularity and money on the backs of stans. Hell, some were willing to sacrifice friendships over it, like Quackity and aksel's relations ending as a result of Quackity being a numberfag. It could also be excused by saying Japan already has its own equivalent of stans deeply rooted within the JP market, like fujoshis or gachikois.

That said, is it really worth essentially poisoning the fanbases even more than they already are, like whatever a fandom equivalent of the Aum Shinrikyo saryn attack would be? Sure, you have your numbers, but they're numbers who would be more than willing to stab you in the back and burn you at the stake if you do something against their will. If you want any examples, look at TommyInnit basically getting chased into therapy by how utterly smeared he was by this culture of literal psychopaths, just for being friends with Jschlatt.

These are primarily children and mentally ill (wo[?])manchildren who have failed to develop basic empathy or regard for another human being, any responsibility, self/impulse control, guilt/remorse, or anything else that would make them realise ruining another human's life and driving them to suicidal tendencies might be kinda fucked up, and that's on top of their delusional grandiosity of pretending to fight for justice of others. To me, that shit is infinitely more terrifying than some /vt/ faggot shitting on someone to take the piss or because his waifu won't acknowledge his cum jar, and no amount of numbers or money could justify actively introducing them to the Vtuber market. If there were any definition of why gatekeeping is a necessity, this would definitely be it.

The difference between so called stans and gachikoi/fujoshits is that, unlike in the west, where some fucking faggot that auto-proclaims themselves a "journalist" signal boosts their garbage takes and acts as a flare to draw The Horde and companies that already bought in to the SJW bullshit cut your contracts and banks decide to lock you out of your own fucking money, gachi/fujoshits have no real power other than shitting themselves in a rage and hope their target decides to cave on their own.

If a fujoshit tries to bring their screeching ass into "adult" topics, they get laughed out of the fucking room because no one in their right mind takes the dumb bitch that writes Winchester Brother Incest fics seriously... in Japan, anyway.

Let's not forget, Sakana was naive enough to, at the very least, be complacent in asking Null to take down a doxpost before. He might've gotten more aware as time has progressed, but he has generally been behind the curve in the past.View attachment 2646347

Unless you've delt with the farms specifically, requesting the website to take down a dox is the normal response. Most websites don't allow that and it being left up is just a matter of the mods or site admin not knowing.

Whoever sent it managed to not sperg hard enough to get their own thread in the take that off the internet section.

Sakana (or one of his employees) probably read through Null's disclaimers in a calm manner, unlike 99.98% of shitter that think the internet police are a thing and consequences will never be the same.

I'm watching Kiara's stream of the new WarioWare. Maybe it's just she has something to focus on and so is less time to be neurotic, but I've been enjoying this stream more than her usual one's.

Quick, someone send her the Autism questionnaire, I wanna see her number.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Sakana (or one of his employees) probably read through Null's disclaimers in a calm manner, unlike 99.98% of shitter that think the internet police are a thing and consequences will never be the same.

Quick, someone send her the Autism questionnaire, I wanna see her number.

probably went "man, the server is in america and were dumb canadians"

 

[Scuttle]

Okay, the stream took nearly an hour of technical difficulties to get going and they switched to the Tabletop Simulator version of Uno, which initially involved very little Uno and a lot of Enna fucking around.

Finana came in and saved the stream so now all 5 of them are playing together. Nina is actually funny when she's not roleplaying as a boomer (she got competitive) which I think pisses me off more because she's actively employing a filter on herself that no one likes.

They have a different kind of dynamic than the other waves in that they actually bicker and swear at each other a lot. They'd by far have the best dynamic if Nina wasn't playing a character while the other three just talk shit. It's so weird. Reimu, Enna, and Millie would vibe way better with Elira, Pomu, or Selen who can take what they give out.

 

[KoopsInk]

oh no i dont mean worthless, I mean literally sounds like someone getting deepthroated.

Get laid bro

 

[RainwaterDrop]

I don't think I show Ina enough appreciation. She's such a sweetie. I can't believe she and Past Ina are the same person.

Ina sure is lovely, when I'm working I often put her streams as background noise, so relaxing!

I got into her by watching her clips, there are a lot of clippable moments about her being cute and lovely, Amelia may be funnier with her chaotic hijinks but Ina is amazing in her own right!

Ain't that the truth. The few good places still around, like this forum, are constantly under attack. Null should not have to jump through the amount of hoops he does to keep this completely legal website up and running. Eventually there'll be an internet where all discussion happens on hyper-censored social media platforms, and the new generations will grow up not knowing what they're missing.

Precisely. It really pisses me off, it's not like in China with the Government censoring everyone, it's fucking multi-billionaire corporations either bowing down to some militant retards that can't pay their fucking rent but want to boss everyone else around, or worse, being managed by these fucking retards!

I believe these retards are slowly but surely turning the tide against them. They went after Dave Chapelle for joking about them in a positive way, and he is standing his ground. People are beginning to see there is no way you can actually please these retards without bending your ass to them, and they are virtually powerless when you tell them to fuck off, which will be more common from now on as they are pissing a lot of people off and fast!

I'm watching Kiara's stream of the new WarioWare. Maybe it's just she has something to focus on and so has less time to be neurotic, but I've been enjoying this stream more than her usual one's.

I like watching her short clips, you get the best of the chicken without her self doomposting lol!

 

[Two-bit]

Which of you niggers have clipper channels? I seem to have lost my yt account and now I need to resubscribe with the new one.

 

[masterstocking]

Kronii doesn't have a Minecraft problem. She has a 'sleep is required for humans' problem.

 

[Fucking YTs]

#NotMyNeneMilk

 

[mr.moon1488]

#NotMyNeneMilk

The Gura feet crowd has some competition.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Okay, the stream took nearly an hour of technical difficulties to get going and they switched to the Tabletop Simulator version of Uno, which initially involved very little Uno and a lot of Enna fucking around.

Finana came in and saved the stream so now all 5 of them are playing together. Nina is actually funny when she's not roleplaying as a boomer (she got competitive) which I think pisses me off more because she's actively employing a filter on herself that no one likes.

They have a different kind of dynamic than the other waves in that they actually bicker and swear at each other a lot. They'd by far have the best dynamic if Nina wasn't playing a character while the other three just talk shit. It's so weird. Reimu, Enna, and Millie would vibe way better with Elira, Pomu, or Selen who can take what they give out.

I've said it before but it bears repeating, Finana is the glue that can save any kind of collab stream. Dum horny feesh has magical glue powers.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Who is Tenma colalbing with
sounds like a filthy p*nis haver

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except for lilypichu i got no idea who everyone else is, and can say I care enough to give it more than passing glance

I only know who Toast and Sykkuno are due to everyone playing Among Us last year.
Toast is a very good player.
Also, he gave the world this moment:

 

[Scuttle]

I've said it before but it bears repeating, Finana is the glue that can save any kind of collab stream. Dum horny feesh has magical glue powers.

We've come a long way from calling her a failed Debut TBA V-Tweeter. She is always on standby to troubleshoot other peoples' streams and get their collabs on track. Super underappreciated member of the branch.