US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Gehenna]

And what makes you think the core GOP won't negotiate? Half of why Trump is Trump is that he's petty and vindictive when someone fucks him over. Yes, maybe he's willing to negotiate, but he's also driven by his emotions, and much more willing to make a rash impulsive decision, It's what makes him so scary for the Establishment.

Because he's not actually rash or impulsive. No, seriously. His personality is about 60% acting and 40% legitimate. He is prone to emotion, but hidden behind that emotion is the crude cunning of a buisnessman. He will seize upon an emotion, decide he wants to do something in the general about it, then apply that cunning to determine the best way to go about doing that thing.

Yes, the thing he decides he wants to do can be rash or impulsive, but his method of doing it is almost never so. That is what makes him scary to the establishment. The fact he will decide to do something then actually do it in a way that is effective. If he were purely driven by impulse he'd actually be fairly easy to lead to what they want to do.

 

[northstar747]

They increasingly deeply regret that decision.

I doubt if you insight into that faction but then again your job is writing analyses.

The owners and people that work at big tech definitely have a cultural basis. I remember back in 2016 the russian trolls and cambridge analytics were a popular narrative for how trump wasnt legit. Which I view as a mistake for both the dem party and the media. It was basically cop rather than having a honest "what did trump bring to the table to win some people over"

But if big tech and media basically had a line on "this is what we are going to allow" aka trump can have a voice, conservatives can have a voice, or we will apply the rules as evenly as we can. Aka calling for the deaths of anyone one including white, cis, male, trump supporters etc will get you deplatformed as well.

Could they make it work? because it would mean rejecting the orange hitler meme, it would mean google not allowing anti trump articles to be manipulated by their systems.

I would mean a political reality of "I hate what you say but will defend your right to say it" and I just see it not working for the -TPTB- to have a group reject there propaganda on the vauge hope the people on the other side of aisle whome they hate away would protect them.

Now that I think about it working defang big tech and media makes sense because then they wont be able to jump to the other side of the aisle anyway.

 

[Gehenna]

I doubt if you insight into that faction but then again your job is writing analyses.

The owners and people that work at big tech definitely have a cultural basis. I remember back in 2016 the russian trolls and cambridge analytics were a popular narrative for how trump wasnt legit. Which I view as a mistake for both the dem party and the media. It was basically cop rather than having a honest "what did trump bring to the table to win some people over"

But if big tech and media basically had a line on "this is what we are going to allow" aka trump can have a voice, conservatives can have a voice, or we will apply the rules as evenly as we can. Aka calling for the deaths of anyone one including white, cis, male, trump supporters etc will get you deplatformed as well.

Could they make it work? because it would mean rejecting the orange hitler meme, it would mean google not allowing anti trump articles to be manipulated by their systems.

I would mean a political reality of "I hate what you say but will defend your right to say it" and I just see it not working for the -TPTB- to have a group reject there propaganda on the vauge hope the people on the other side of aisle whome they hate away would protect them.

Now that I think about it working defang big tech and media makes sense because then they wont be able to jump to the other side of the aisle anyway.

Do you mean make a deal whereby they'd even-handedly apply rules rather than their current thing? I'd suspect that would be a requirement of any deal made, and would be rolled into the 230 refinements, Its the lowest pain they could go for, a Damocles sword above their head that could be brought down if they break their end of the deal?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Now this. This is what KF is truly about. I'm so proud of you all.

i am so proud of this community :')

Come for the trenchant insight into political machinations, stay for the dank Magic School Bus memes!

God damn it now I Have to go watch the MR Blue Skye Last of Us 2 Meme Video again.

With the current state of things, sometimes all you can do is laugh.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

With the current state of things, sometimes all you can do is laugh.

Honk Honk.

 

[soy_king]

Because he's not actually rash or impulsive. No, seriously. His personality is about 60% acting and 40% legitimate. He is prone to emotion, but hidden behind that emotion is the crude cunning of a buisnessman. He will seize upon an emotion, decide he wants to do something in the general about it, then apply that cunning to determine the best way to go about doing that thing.

Yes, the thing he decides he wants to do can be rash or impulsive, but his method of doing it is almost never so. That is what makes him scary to the establishment. The fact he will decide to do something then actually do it in a way that is effective. If he were purely driven by impulse he'd actually be fairly easy to lead to what they want to do.

Okay, but if you think McConnell wouldn't gladly take any form of corporate money then I feel like you may be mistaken.

 

[Gehenna]

Okay, but if you think McConnell wouldn't gladly take any form of corporate money then I feel like you may be mistaken.

I fail to see how you think BigTech could make a deal with Congress that doesn't first go through Trump. Stop and think for a bit, Congress requires multiple people to vote on it, any sort of gains will have a considerable Trump loyalist faction in both chambers of Congress. McConnel can want anything he desires, that doesn't mean he has the power to make it manifest without the votes. If Trump hard says no to something., McConnell can pound sand.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

And what makes you think the core GOP won't negotiate? Half of why Trump is Trump is that he's petty and vindictive when someone fucks him over. Yes, maybe he's willing to negotiate, but he's also driven by his emotions, and much more willing to make a rash impulsive decision, It's what makes him so scary for the Establishment.

What? Dude was notorious for elevating people who trashed him. His last act as Prez was to pardon a bunch of angry democrat rappers who hated him and his supporters.

 

[soy_king]

I fail to see how you think BigTech could make a deal with Congress that doesn't first go through Trump. Stop and think for a bit, Congress requires multiple people to vote on it, any sort of gains will have a considerable Trump loyalist faction in both chambers of Congress. McConnel can want anything he desires, that doesn't mean he has the power to make it manifest without the votes. If Trump hard says no to something., McConnel can pound sand.

Trump may have the grassroots support, but the vast majority of the congressmen and Senators are still establishment goons. Enough greased palms and it doesn't matter how vocal the Trump faction is.

 

[Gehenna]

Trump may have the grassroots support, but the vast majority of the congressmen and Senators are still establishment goons. Enough greased palms and it doesn't matter how vocal the Trump faction is.

As you can see with Manchin, you cannot in fact bribe your way to success in congress. Greased palms only matter to tip the balance of a narrow opinion, any sort of hard opposition will not be affected. Trump doesn't need a majority to scupper any sort of plans that he dislikes, he just needs enough to prevent a majority of voting -for- something.

Addendum: I actually want to rip into this more since it kinda annoys me.

1: This would require McConnell to directly move against a sitting president. Great way to just -burn- any political capital he has.
2: This would require McConnell to suddenly forget how congress works.
3: This would require Trump to do nothing against it at all.
4: it would require McConnell to, somehow as an individual not in the executive branch, have the money and capital to even attempt the bribe.

And I could keep going. In no way does this post begin to make sense as a possibility.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Trump wants to make an example of Big tech.
Trump wants to make an example of the Establishment.

I'd invert these two. Big Tech was the one who hurt him personally by cutting his Twitter and the ones who spearheaded TDS in regular people. They also hurt his MAGA grift by restricting platform access. The Establishment cheated him out of the presidency, but that was a dodged bullet for him after Milley's rout. Also, hurting Big Tech will have more lasting pain than the government apparatus. The Feds will always be a monopoly. Twitter and Facebook, not so much.

 

[The Last Stand]

I guess she's......Yellen into the void about that capital plan, huh?
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Try that, and I'll deport your brain out of your body, hijo de puta.

what the fuck am I doing with my life

That gimmick sucks. I don't get it.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Unless you, personally, are a scientist working at the cutting edge of technology, dreaming big doesn’t mean jack shit.

ALL HAIL SCIENTISM

Either FTL is confirmed possible by people way smarter than any of us, or it isn’t. Plebs conflating Star Trek with real life because they don’t understand enough about physics to understand why FTL is almost certainly impossible ain’t gonna speed up their progress.

I'm not talking about FTL, I'm just General Banter.
And you're still a defeatist fag lol

 

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yeah she's like, one of those marvel characters that's more of a background cameo than a full "appearance" in a movie but still not a comics-only character

Read another book being replaced with "watch another movie" I see.

 

[Gehenna]

I'd invert these two. Big Tech was the one who hurt him personally by cutting his Twitter and the ones who spearheaded TDS in regular people. They also hurt his MAGA grift by restricting platform access. The Establishment cheated him out of the presidency, but that was a dodged bullet for him after Milley's rout. Also, hurting Big Tech will have more lasting pain than the government apparatus. The Feds will always be a monopoly. Twitter and Facebook, not so much.

Trump doesn't really care about his Twitter. Yah, he loves to shitpost, but he just made a new way to do that that made them seethe even more. Also, they made it very clear they would and never even pretended they didn't want to. They stabbed him in the front, and were pretty honest about it. That doesn't engender the same sort of need for retribution.

The Establishment meanwhile cheated him out of something, constantly worked against him througout his term, did every dirty deal and backstabbing move they could for four years. That engenders a lot more vehemence.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

It's ok when we do it, but you're a Nazi when you do it.
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Confirmed by a second Fact Checker that Biden is not in fact a white supremacist sending secret signals to his backers:

PolitiFact - No, Biden didn’t flash a white power sign at a Black man during CNN’s town hall in Baltimore

On Oct. 21, President Joe Biden answered audience questions at a town hall hosted by CNN in Baltimore. That night, a cla

www.politifact.com

On Oct. 21, President Joe Biden answered audience questions at a town hall hosted by CNN in Baltimore. That night, a claim about the president purportedly making a derogatory gesture at a Black man in the crowd started to spread on social media.

"Biden flashed the white power sign while a black man was asking him a question," the post says. "I’m literally shaking."

The post includes an image of the president during the town hall holding his hand up to his eye with his thumb and pointer finger joined and his other fingers up — a hand gesture that typically means "OK" but in recent years has been connected to white supremacy.

This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

We reviewed a recording of the town hall and starting around the 13:20 mark, a Baltimore real estate agent named Ben Frederick asked Biden about income taxes.

"IRS data shows that the top 5% of income earners pay 60% of the income taxes in this country," Frederick said. "I hear you repeatedly say that the wealthy are not paying their fair share of income taxes. What is the percentage of income that you believe is fair?"

Biden replied that corporate America "is not paying their fair share."
"You have 55 corporations, for example, in the United States of America, making over $40 billion, don’t pay a cent," Biden said, bringing his fingers forming a circle to his eye as pictured in the Instagram post. "Not a single little red cent."

First, a word of caution about interpreting that gesture as a white power gesture. According to the Anti-Defamation League, in 2017, members of the website 4chan falsely claimed that it represented the letters "WP" for "white power."

"The hoaxers hoped that the media and liberals would overreact by condemning a common image as white supremacist," the Anti-Defamation League says in this article explaining the gesture. While overwhelmingly people use the gesture to signify assent or approval, "as well as other usages unrelated to white supremacy," the league says, it has also been used as a sincere expression of white supremacy.

In this case, however, the context makes clear that Biden is using the gesture to illustrate the number zero, as in how many cents he said some corporations pay in taxes.

 

[Snekposter]

And what makes you think the core GOP won't negotiate? Half of why Trump is Trump is that he's petty and vindictive when someone fucks him over. Yes, maybe he's willing to negotiate, but he's also driven by his emotions, and much more willing to make a rash impulsive decision, It's what makes him so scary for the Establishment.

To add to what Gehenna said, Trump took that Obama mic drop moment about "At least I will be going down in history as a president" very, very personally. As in "Fuck you, I'm going to be the greatest President America's seen in years!" personally. And Trump ran an incredibly successful Presidential campaign, and a surprisingly successful Presidency when you consider he had more stab wounds in his back than Caesar did when he left office. Certainly not the actions of a purely impulsive man. And as he also said, Big Tech was shamelessly open about fucking with Trump and his desires, but it was the Establishment snakes who really did the most damage. You can negotiate with an open enemy, but traitors and backstabbers need to be dealt with in a very decisive manner.

 

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Then I am doing my job. My goal is to not give in to foolish optimism nor foolish pessimism. Both are different flavors of poison.

Still, it's not all bad news if you consider it. The Big Tech wing of the cabal is at the very least supremely disloyal to the cause now that they found the bed they made was filled with ants. They won't magically become a loyal ally to the right, but their desire to get out of the mess they made for themselves does mean it can be used. Depending on how stupid individual actors have been.

More importantly, once they do get out of the trap, they won't go back in it for anything.

That includes mass firings of woke activists. And I'm hoping mass purges of lefty activists on social media who are currently allowed to break the rules.

 

[soy_king]

As you can see with Manchin, you cannot in fact bribe your way to success in congress. Greased palms only matter to tip the balance of a narrow opinion, any sort of hard opposition will not be affected. Trump doesn't need a majority to scupper any sort of plans that he dislikes, he just needs enough to prevent a majority of voting -for- something.

Addendum: I actually want to rip into this more since it kinda annoys me.

1: This would require McConnell to directly move against a sitting president. Great way to just -burn- any political capital he has.
2: This would require McConnell to suddenly forget how congress works.
3: This would require Trump to do nothing against it at all.
4: it would require McConnell to, somehow as an individual not in the executive branch, have the money and capital to even attempt the bribe.

And I could keep going. In no way does this post begin to make sense as a possibility.

I didn't say bribe, I mean our institutionalized corruption called lobbying. All you need is a few senators to derail any real plans, like you see with Manchin. Oh of course Mitch will publicly disapprove, but that doesn't really matter when he's acting behind the scenes, does it?

 

[Gehenna]

I didn't say bribe, I mean our institutionalized corruption called lobbying. All you need is a few senators to derail any real plans, like you see with Manchin. Oh of course Mitch will publicly disapprove, but that doesn't really matter when he's acting behind the scenes, does it?

The system doesn't work like that. You cannot simply slide a big fat envelope of money over with a smile and say "Vote how you should". Lobbying doesn't work that way either.

Nothing you are saying works like that, this is not a Hollywood movie.

Addendum: Also, the phrase "greased palms" -literally- refers to bribes. So yes you did,