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Just some update on the "Kiara collabed got cancelled by management. Seems like a group of people are convinced it's the other side (Niji) that shot down the collab (given the vagueness of the annoucement we may never know WHO really denied the collab)

Lol that reddit post is everything that's wrong with the reddit hugbox circlejerk mentality. The clipper is being thrown under the bus for a couple of clips coz apparently they are ''starting'' drama and showing things out of context.

No you fuckers the one starting drama is you making a big deal out of it. There is no further context in any of those clips, its Kierarara voicing her thoughts on a single topic, what more context do you need?

These clips are just what are needed for seeing the juicy bits of a chuuba, I ain't gonna watch a fucking 3 hour supacha reading, specially not from Kiarara

 
Kronii summary:

1) Not graduating (obviously)
2) Streaming to such a large audience has been more stressful than she anticipated
3) Yes she was sick the last week
4) Apparently people complain she sounds disinterested while streaming? This must be from people who don't watch her that often. She's got a dry delivery, but that's normal for her.
5) Lots of real life stress that occurred before joining Hololive has made this a really rough year for her personally, and mentally dealing with everything has proven very difficult for her

Also shared a story that she had previously sent her voice acting demo reel to a person she looked up to in the industry, and was told to her face that she sucks. And while it affected her quite a bit, she came back with a "Well, fuck you. I'll do fine without your approval" attitude.

Will update with any other info if it's pertinent.

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6) Recognizes she's a bit too into minecraft. She generally plays single player games obsessively, and minecraft has proven an endless outlet for that. Will be toning back those streams
7) She admits to bottling things up too much, and needs to work on communicating stuff more
8 ) Asked about jokes she doesn't chat to say, "I'm not the meme police, you guys can say whatever. I can find humor in what you say" Chat: if we cross a line, tell us immediately please, Kronii: "yea, of course guys"
9) Sleep schedule - Out of Whack; eating schedule - out of whack; need to improve herself overall
10) Zatsudon - Her chatting skills are still a work in progress. Still nervous with that aspect of her repertoire. Wants to do more 'just chatting' streams to build some confidence.
11) Basically acknowledging Twitter comments and Youtube comments are too much of a hugbox to glean actual criticism from.
12) Ooof on this one. Basically admits she's been slacking on behind the scenes project work. "I'm lazy. I need to unlazy. It's something I need to work on."
13) On the subject of burnout, she might have unintentionally burned her self out in conjunction with the above point. She once had creative burnout for over a year. Knows that to beat burnout, you actually need to work and can't just laze around and expect it to go away.
14) Chat: "Kronii, it's been two months. You're going to improve" - Kronii: "You're right Gabrielle, I'm going to improve goddammit!"
15) While acknowledging she needs to grow a thicker skin, she does mention that chat runs some jokes into the ground. Gives people saying "YABE" to everything bugs her a little bit. Later, after saying something else she knows people will say YABE to, she says "I swear, if you guys say YABE I'm going to YaBeat you"
16) On the subject of game choice, she says she prefers Indie games. You can get more interesting ideas from them then triple-A games in her opinion.
17) Going to be taking a one week break due to personal matters sometime in the weeks ahead. No date yet. Jokes "You'll know when it happens because you won't see me log into minecraft for a week".

So Kronii's whole situation is just what every one of the EN girls already went through. I swear to God I've read all of those points already about someone else.

Gura is a failed voice actress, Calli got shut down by someone she respected, Ina had major creative burnout, Kiara struggles with how chat sees her etc etc

Well she has a group of 5 other people who already dealt with this to talk to. She'll live.
She's been through a lot of things that all built up on each other, it's sad but I'm glad she's being more open about herself, instead of bottling it all up. Her doing more chatting streams like last nights will help with this. She said there's projects she wants to work on, hyped for those.
And she's self-aware enough to know she's actually addicted to MC.
 
only cause no one's posted it yet and we're talking about the orange chicken
shieeeet... Calli's a good friend to be playing blockgame this late for her (stream started ~2 hours ago, which means she started block game about 10pm Japan time?)

Also, go beaten by sliced raw fish to the post but from the dork reaper's perspective
 
Lol that reddit post is everything that's wrong with the reddit hugbox circlejerk mentality. The clipper is being thrown under the bus for a couple of clips coz apparently they are ''starting'' drama and showing things out of context.

No you fuckers the one starting drama is you making a big deal out of it. There is no further context in any of those clips, its Kierarara voicing her thoughts on a single topic, what more context do you need?

These clips are just what are needed for seeing the juicy bits of a chuuba, I ain't gonna watch a fucking 3 hour supacha reading, specially not from Kiarara
No, it's just bait to farm clicks, if you consider collab drama or numberfagging the juicy bits of a chuuba you might as well go eat actual shit
Highlighting only the negative clips means actively ruining the perception of the vtuber to the wider public, why would you defend a bad practice?
 
TakaMori finally playing the game of mining and crafting again


I still think their first Minecraft stream is one of the best and most iconic Holo streams ever.
only cause no one's posted it yet and we're talking about the orange chicken
shieeeet... Calli's a good friend to be playing blockgame this late for her (stream started ~2 hours ago, which means she started block game about 10pm Japan time?)

Also, go beaten by sliced raw fish to the post but from the dork reaper's perspective
They got the elytra for Calli and are about to test it out after enchanting it. Kiara is more relaxed now and guiding to Calli as compared to the whole TakaMori shctick before.
 
They got the elytra for Calli and are about to test it out after enchanting it. Kiara is more relaxed now and guiding to Calli as compared to the whole TakaMori shctick before.
That's more or less how the first TakaMori Minecraft stream played out, with Kiara only occasionally making teasing comments about them being a couple or something, but was mostly relaxed.

Edit: Calli taking flight with a rocket for the first time is the cutest damned thing I've seen in a long while.
 
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No, it's just bait to farm clicks, if you consider collab drama or numberfagging the juicy bits of a chuuba you might as well go eat actual shit
Highlighting only the negative clips means actively ruining the perception of the vtuber to the wider public, why would you defend a bad practice?
Well, if you wanna start some shit, you can bring up Rednax's sperg out that we were hug boxing Cover when his favorite porn autist got his contract terminated because he complained for more money than he signed on for with HoloAlt. Said autist than started spewing absolute bollocks about Cover and drumming up Chink supporters until he calmed tf down.
 
No, it's just bait to farm clicks, if you consider collab drama or numberfagging the juicy bits of a chuuba you might as well go eat actual shit
Highlighting only the negative clips means actively ruining the perception of the vtuber to the wider public, why would you defend a bad practice?

Listen here you little shit. Clickbait is when you have a sensationalist title without the content to back it up. Each of the ''drama'' clips are exactly what the titles says. There was no bait in there.

Yes I care about the juicy bits only, if you got a problem with that, then that's on you, idgaff.

Kiara is well aware of people clipping the shit she says my nigga, you think she's completely innocent here? She running her mouth because she wants attention. If this clipper only clips the ''negative'' parts then stop watching and move on to the next clipper.

Besides ''ruining the perception'' is a thing that only happens in your little chicken head. I've been watching her for a year and I know what Kiearararrear is all about. If this is what a new potential watcher is gonna get and he's like ''wait, too much drama for me'' then that's GOOD, he'll be better off watching mumei or Ina.

Sure, clippers have a responsibility but this one hasn't crossed any line, so far all I see is butthurt birdboys
 
Listen here you little shit. Clickbait is when you have a sensationalist title without the content to back it up. Each of the ''drama'' clips are exactly what the titles says. There was no bait in there.

Yes I care about the juicy bits only, if you got a problem with that, then that's on you, idgaff.

Kiara is well aware of people clipping the shit she says my nigga, you think she's completely innocent here? She running her mouth because she wants attention. If this clipper only clips the ''negative'' parts then stop watching and move on to the next clipper.

Besides ''ruining the perception'' is a thing that only happens in your little chicken head. I've been watching her for a year and I know what Kiearararrear is all about. If this is what a new potential watcher is gonna get and he's like ''wait, too much drama for me'' then that's GOOD, he'll be better off watching mumei or Ina.

Sure, clippers have a responsibility but this one hasn't crossed any line, so far all I see is butthurt birdboys
Or you know, the person clipping these is doing so absolutely to wring views over what would've otherwise been a foot note. No one cares if you're only here for drama, but I think defending the clipper is not needed. You don't gotta defend them, they'll make an ass of themselves without you. I get you're defending them as you think they're the drama clipper you've been waiting for.

I don't even think you're a coom brain now, I think you're just attracted to drama because you're bored. But then why do you speak up, you get more to laugh at if you say nothing?

Edit: @Autisticus Eh, it's not defend Kiara, it's more so being done with clippers being annoying. The bird gets flamed and shit posted here plenty.
 
Going off the comments in the tweet, the [SERIOUS] clipper doesn’t seem to have the best reputation.
I mean he seems to be fairly autistic and extremely pissed that his oshi is getting featured in a bunch of clickbait clips that don't really help paint her in the best light.

Bit excited about the sports festival.
 
Listen here you little shit. Clickbait is when you have a sensationalist title without the content to back it up. Each of the ''drama'' clips are exactly what the titles says. There was no bait in there.

Yes I care about the juicy bits only, if you got a problem with that, then that's on you, idgaff.

Kiara is well aware of people clipping the shit she says my nigga, you think she's completely innocent here? She running her mouth because she wants attention. If this clipper only clips the ''negative'' parts then stop watching and move on to the next clipper.

Besides ''ruining the perception'' is a thing that only happens in your little chicken head. I've been watching her for a year and I know what Kiearararrear is all about. If this is what a new potential watcher is gonna get and he's like ''wait, too much drama for me'' then that's GOOD, he'll be better off watching mumei or Ina.

Sure, clippers have a responsibility but this one hasn't crossed any line, so far all I see is butthurt birdboys
Could've said you frequent /vt/ and eat whatever shit they spew with less words than this my man
 
Could've said you frequent /vt/ and eat whatever shit they spew with less words than this my man
Now those comments aren't needed. A lot of people here started with the /jp/ and /vt/ threads, me included. I mean, this site started partly from chan culture.

Edit: Not that it excuses the behavior mind you.
 
Highlighting only the negative clips means actively ruining the perception of the vtuber to the wider public, why would you defend a bad practice?
the clipper in question doesn't only do negative clips, it's like not even 10% of what he clips. I'm beginning to think people have never even looked at the guys channel. I get it when it's reddit, it's kinda just sad when it's here.
 
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This was such an incredible stream. I highly recommend y'all check out the VOD if you aren't allergic to Kiara.

I think we can agree TakaMori is cool when its just two gaijin girls hanging out, having bonded over their experiences and similiarties as two white girls in Japan. It becomes not so cool when Kiara goes full horni and/or the deranged shippers try to push the whole relationship to places that are just vomit inducing.
The way I see it, how Calli acts with her other genmates (and IRyS) is like friendly coworkers or recent friends getting to know each other, thus being nice on every occasion. Whereas with Kiara (and maybe Gura), it's like longtime friends who have much fewer boundaries with banter and teasing.

Y'know how you tend make fun of your friends more than people you've known just recently? Yeah.
 
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