Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Protistology]

My in-laws uninvited my husband and I to Thanksgiving for not being jabbed. And, apparently, some of my (now) ex-friends have been talking trash behind my back, too.

This entire plandemic has turned so many people into sanctimonious assholes. The funny part is that these assholes claim to "care" and claim to be "empaths" all the while they demonize people who don't fall in line with them 100%. Some of the people in my life have basically turned their love and affection into something that is very conditional, and it doesn't feel good at all. Not to PL too much, but some of my doctors have told me to my face that I shouldn't get the jab right now ... And despite me telling people that, these people are still treating my husband and I pretty horribly. So ~*empathetic*~ of them, am I right?

"But surely the reason we do not execute witches is that we do not believe there are such things. If we did – if we really thought that there were people going about who had sold themselves to the devil and received supernatural powers from him in return and were using these powers to kill their neighbours or drive them mad or bring bad weather – surely we would all agree that if anyone deserved the death penalty, then these filthy quislings did? There is no difference of moral principle here: the difference is simply about matter of fact. It may be a great advance in knowledge not to believe in witches: there is no moral advance in not executing them when you do not think they are there."​

-C.S. Lewis

What a sad state of affairs. Without a daily bombardment of fear and doom and it being turned into a massive earner for some people we would all be getting on just fine. I bet that these people who are turning their backs on friends and family had no thoughts or cares as to how many people died of this and that, before covid, and now they are lapping up the bullshit graphs and numbers. Sadly; they have had their minds so bent out of shape that they STILL do not compare covid numbers and outcomes, to the other things that kill/injure us even though a whole new world of info has been made available to them.
I had a discussion recently with someone who is quite practical, switched on and clever and we were looking at some pie charts and stuff and even though it was fucking obvious that covid is minor, compared to other shit, he was all "yes, but covid blah blah" like a stuck record. At the beginning of all of this he was completely normal and his reasoning was spot on, but now he is a compliant brainwashed fuckwit.

"The first and simplest stage in the discipline, which can be taught even to young children, is called, in Newspeak, CRIMESTOP. CRIMESTOP means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. CRIMESTOP, in short, means protective stupidity... orthodoxy in the full sense demands a control over one's own mental processes as complete as that of a contortionist over his body."

-1984

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Interesting, I honestly want to see how I handle any new sickness now that I am not permanently walking around deficient in vitamin D, Zinc, et al. I've had some pretty rough colds in the past, but they all happen when funnily enough I am not getting sunshine. I got some quercetin to, smells a bit like an old boot though. Anyone been taking the quercetin? Apparently a natural source of it is, get this, apples.......so that old saying "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" has truth to it.

I have also been informed that "the data from the UK is being manipulated by right wing extremists" when I brought it up in conversation. wow I am going to chalk that response up to brain damage though.

I will join the choir of those who feel exceptionally healthy due to increased intake of supplements.
Here is my list:
Quercentin with Vit D3 500mg and 1000IU respectively
Vit C 500mg
L-Lysine 500mg
Niacinamide 500mg (I am a follower of dr Ray Peat)
Zinc 30mg
TMG 500mg
Magnesium 200mg
Selenium 100mcg
Colloidal Sulphur 100 mg
Reishi Mushroom extract 100mg

On some days I add 4000IU of Vit D3 with K2, but as my levels are high I sometimes skip it as it gives me insomnia.
Also I can't take melatonin, it has paradoxical effect on me, I can't sleep at all...

If a variant comes along that evades the vaccines you won't be able to fight it as your body will be doing the equivalent of using a straight screwdriver to turn a Philips screw and it won't have anything else in the toolbox to pull out.

Funny thing is that's what I was literally doing yesterday, but in opposite direction, I was trying to use Philips screwdriver on a straight screw. Don't judge, it was hard to see what type of screw it is, and then I changed the screwdriver obviously...

 

[DaBigBopper]

I'll pipe up again about family. My aunt wants to fire one of the women who we hired to check in on my other grandmother during the days we can't be there because she's unvaccinated. Literally no one else gives a damn, the woman is nothing, but kind to my grandmother and one of the only people who didn't try to steal from her. My Aunt is from a large city and works in administration for a school district down there, she avoided us like the plague last year because of Covid. We don't want to put our Grandmother in a home, which depending on where in the US you were could have killed her, but our Aunt doesn't want to talk about that. We then brow beat her with the fact that the lady is Black and considering the history of the US blah blah blah... fun to make people squirm.

Unless your family is asking for proof of vaccination, just say you have immunity. I worked throughout the Pandemic as an essential worker and I quit that recently to go full time at my research job because everyone is hurting for workers and the nerds in charge of STEM actually caved to me asking for more money, they even accepted my religious exemption. Most of my family doesn't give a shit beyond two aunts who don't want to be ostracized from their social groups. If you're family is gonna break up because of gov't pressure make a better family, draw a line in the sand. If you're family solely adheres to worldly authority over family then why the fuck care about family, governments don't give a shit about the average citizen. The organs they could harvest off you wouldn't even make them blink.

 

[LaxerBRO]

My partner's family are trying to bully me into being vaccinated before I fly south to their place for Christmas. It is not a requirement to travel domestically within New Zealand where I live. Apparently if I choose to not get it then I have to "talk it over" with his mother who is a nurse to justify my decision and his grandmother who paid for my plane ticket. It is important so I don't "accidentally spread covid to an untouched part of the country".

This shit is still in the third stage of trialing and I'm not comfortable with this kind of pressure to make a private medical decision on the incorrect basis that it stops the spread because it doesn't.

I'm considering just lying because I don't want to get into this with his family. "No" isn't an answer for them and it would create a massive divide as well as affect the dynamic between his family and I. My partner has already talked down to me a lot when I've displayed hesitancy.

I have nobody else to discuss this with at present so I guess I'm just leaving this here as documentation that social pressure for this is huge and I think it's wrong.

While it's your life and you can do with it as you choose, I would not write them off just yet.

The best method is to appeal to something they like and try to convince them to respect your wishes.

I would stay away from citing the Farms or a random YouTube video. Rather, I would pull out the COVID deaths by age group charts for your country and address your relative risk.

If they have members in the military, ask them if they opposed that member joining. After all, why would they let that person increase their overall risk of death?

If they ride motorcycles or ATV ask why they take that risk. If they are willing to have an intervention for that person why now?

Conversely, you can put yourself in such a situation and ask if they would hold an intervention for joining the military or riding a motorcycle.

I know you are a Kiwi while I am a Burger but acknowledging the risk while asking them to respect your decision as they do with many other risky behaviors behaviors is my approach.

 

[malapropism]

As somebody out of stable employment since the beginning of the coof, what should i do to find employment that ignores jab requirements?. I've noticed that even very small local companies feel obliged to require it out of peer pressure alone, especially for new hires. It is also not something you'll ever see advertised unless you dig deep in the paperwork once signed on. This doesn't help as I was having trouble getting an interview before they fucked over workers under 25 ever harder than before.

I'm in a status of taking care of family so i cannot make a multi state move but a state right over has announced resistance of the OHSA/Biden mandate for whatever that's worth, which i'd be fine with a longer commute/short move. To PL i have a degree, but a large employment gap.

 

[LaxerBRO]

As somebody out of stable employment since the beginning of the coof, what should i do to find employment that ignores jab requirements?. I've noticed that even very small local companies feel obliged to require it out of peer pressure alone, especially for new hires. It is also not something you'll ever see advertised unless you dig deep in the paperwork once signed on. This doesn't help as I was having trouble getting an interview before they fucked over workers under 25 ever harder than before.

I'm in a status of taking care of family so i cannot make a multi state move but a state right over has announced resistance of the OHSA/Biden mandate for whatever that's worth, which i'd be fine with a longer commute/short move. To PL i have a degree, but a large employment gap.

Is their anything tying you to the area you live in now?

I would suggest moving to a redder area:

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[Mrs. Addams]

As somebody out of stable employment since the beginning of the coof, what should i do to find employment that ignores jab requirements?. I've noticed that even very small local companies feel obliged to require it out of peer pressure alone, especially for new hires. It is also not something you'll ever see advertised unless you dig deep in the paperwork once signed on. This doesn't help as I was having trouble getting an interview before they fucked over workers under 25 ever harder than before.

I'm in a status of taking care of family so i cannot make a multi state move but a state right over has announced resistance of the OHSA/Biden mandate for whatever that's worth, which i'd be fine with a longer commute/short move. To PL i have a degree, but a large employment gap.

Don't know where you're at but here in CA, every restaurant is desperate for new hires, and most department stores are looking for holiday workers. It's not glamorous work, but if you can make enough to survive through Christmas, it'll erase your employment gap. Also, I hear they'll hire anybody to substitute teach since Covid's knocking teachers and students out of school all over the place.

 

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As somebody out of stable employment since the beginning of the coof, what should i do to find employment that ignores jab requirements?. I've noticed that even very small local companies feel obliged to require it out of peer pressure alone, especially for new hires. It is also not something you'll ever see advertised unless you dig deep in the paperwork once signed on. This doesn't help as I was having trouble getting an interview before they fucked over workers under 25 ever harder than before.

I'm in a status of taking care of family so i cannot make a multi state move but a state right over has announced resistance of the OHSA/Biden mandate for whatever that's worth, which i'd be fine with a longer commute/short move. To PL i have a degree, but a large employment gap.

Remember it costs you nothing but time to apply for a job and force them to rescind the offer when you turn out not to be vax'd. It costs them a shitload of money and resources to do the same.

Keep doing it and they'll give up, eventually.

Remember also they can't say "vax required" because you are legally entitled to an exemption according to Title 7 of the Civil Rights act. So if you apply and they say "sorry, we require the vax" you say "that's fine, I have a religious exemption" and watch the recruiter / HR drone squirm.

 

[uncleShitHeel]

My partner's family are trying to bully me into being vaccinated before I fly south to their place for Christmas. It is not a requirement to travel domestically within New Zealand where I live. Apparently if I choose to not get it then I have to "talk it over" with his mother who is a nurse to justify my decision and his grandmother who paid for my plane ticket. It is important so I don't "accidentally spread covid to an untouched part of the country".

This shit is still in the third stage of trialing and I'm not comfortable with this kind of pressure to make a private medical decision on the incorrect basis that it stops the spread because it doesn't.

I'm considering just lying because I don't want to get into this with his family. "No" isn't an answer for them and it would create a massive divide as well as affect the dynamic between his family and I. My partner has already talked down to me a lot when I've displayed hesitancy.

I have nobody else to discuss this with at present so I guess I'm just leaving this here as documentation that social pressure for this is huge and I think it's wrong.

I've read the rest of your updates and good luck buddy. I'm in the same boat as you as an akshull nu zilunder watching what I can only assume is collective psychosis as our prime minister behaves like a petty child in spite of logic or reason and the leader of the opposition eggs her on. Our MSM outlets all just parrot this like trained seals and anyone who might have asked questions about this have been fired outright or forced to retire. At this point part of me hopes this fucking experiment goes horriffically wrong over the northern winter as it might finally scare some sanity into these assholes.

Shows you how hopeless NZ is when half of the people in this thread (including me) are from this hellhole.

I think your best bet may be to just lie but having a partner that is disappointed in you will complicate things and she may let it slip. People won't listen, they have to come out of the trance on their own.

At first I was being honest with my grandparents when they kept asking if I had been vaxxed but after a few "I thought you were sensible!" arguments I am just pretending I am a good little transhuman.

Fuck this post humanist data driven technocratic world. I'm tired of us being right and nobody listening to us and everything happening exactly how we knew it would and wished it wouldn't. Look after yourselves out there.

Likewise bud. I'm sure even if I did present irefutable data to someone with some power that outlined why this is a terrible fucking plan I'd probably just get outright denial. Hell I'm curious to just throw the question out there - what happens when the virus mutates and evades the jabs? Do we just shut everyone on their houses again and violate everyones bodily autonomy? Do we just look the border forever?

Any idea on what the end goal is anywhere? Because I cannot see a light at the end of the tunnel on this one.

Just wanted to clarify that Pfizer is still in its third trial phase and by accepting the injection I am participating in a medical trial with zero financial compensation or ability to sue for damages if I experience adverse side effects.

That's what a number of people are likely realising. If you've been paying attention - a month ago the PM put out something on FB regarding vaccinations and got about 13K replies in 4 hours, of which an overwhelming number where pretty negative/complaints about vaccination injury.

So why is this bullshit? Well you wouldn't have antibody titres collapsing at a compounding rate of 40-50% per month if you had B-cell recall. If you don't have B-cell recall you can't have T-cell immunity. If you don't have T-cell immunity you won't have protection of any kind when the spike antibodies fall below seroconversion levels. I have absolutely no doubt that they're lying about mortality rates and I can prove it

When you say lying do you mean tptb are downplaying covid mortality or exaggerating covid mortality?

 

[Mr Bunny]

what happens when the virus mutates and evades the jabs? Do we just shut everyone on their houses again and violate everyones bodily autonomy? Do we just look the border forever?

The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 variant A.30 is heavily mutated and evades vaccine-induced antibodies with high efficiency
archive

Mission accomplished! Nature 1 - Man 0

Well, you're about to find out.

 

[LaxerBRO]

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Remember it costs you nothing but time to apply for a job and force them to rescind the offer when you turn out not to be vax'd. It costs them a shitload of money and resources to do the same.

Keep doing it and they'll give up, eventually.

Remember also they can't say "vax required" because you are legally entitled to an exemption according to Title 7 of the Civil Rights act. So if you apply and they say "sorry, we require the vax" you say "that's fine, I have a religious exemption" and watch the recruiter / HR drone squirm.

Also, you can always change your faith after the OSHA temporary rule expires.

 

[Twitter Hate Mob]

There are days when I hope the vaccine turns out to be this killshot envisaged by the Q brigade - I don't see any particularly bright future without everything burning down (quite literally) first and I don't think anything else would be enough to cause it.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Doctors: The jab is completely safe, you and your child should trust it.
Also Doctors: Stay away from the internet, WE are the only ones you should talk to about it! We have your child's best interest at heart.

I feel bad for the kids, their parents that are eager to jab them are too far gone.

Article: https://longisland.news12.com/paren...-for-young-children-as-approval-inches-closer
Archive: https://archive.md/ptRLS
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Parents look to make COVID-19 vaccine appointments for young children as approval inches closer

Some parents are already trying to make appointments for their children to get Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine.

A COVID-19 vaccine for young children is inching closer after a Food and Drug Administration panel gave its approval for emergency use authorization for children ages 5 to 11 to get the shot.

Dr. John Zaso says hundreds of parents have already expressed interest in getting their children vaccinated.

He says the data shows that the vaccine, which is one-third of the adult dose, is safe for children and is 91% effective against the delta variant.

Zaso says giving the vaccine to young children is another step to ending the pandemic.

"I've been giving it to 12 and overs since June, it's not new to us, we just have a new age indication," he says. "We have been given 2,000-3,000 doses here. I have not seen adverse effects other than chills, which is normal. Nothing bad."

Zaso says he has already ordered vaccines from the government and is just waiting for full approval to be granted.

He also says if parents have questions whether or not to vaccinate their children, they should avoid the internet and discuss it with their child's pediatrician.
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[The Wicked Mitch]

He says the data shows that the vaccine, which is one-third of the adult dose, is safe for children and is 91% effective against the delta variant.

Data shows their immune system is much more effective and very significantly longer lasting.

Parents lining up, you say?

I guess killing them through childhood obesity wasn't good enough.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

There's an NBA player who got the jab and side effects and was told to keep his mouth shut.

NBA Player Suffers Season Ending Injury with Blod Clots After Vaccine - Told to Keep Quiet - Big League Politics

Mainstream media and NBA hides players season ending vaccine injury.

bigleaguepolitics.com

The National Basketball Association now has 95% of its players vaccinated, despite not requiring it except for teams where new local COVID-19 requirements have been enacted such as New York and San Francisco.

We have seen freedom fighters in the league Kyrie Irving and Bradley Beal become lastonishingly outspoken heroes, using their social media platforms to challenge the dogmatic narrative.

Now, Brandon Goodwin, NBA player with the Atlanta Hawks has triggered the mainstream media apparatus and hysteria ridden masses, dropping a bombshell truth on live broadcast despite the league telling him to stay quiet according to the video.

“My back really started hurting bad,” Goodwin said. “Then, I’m like, ‘OK. I need to go to the doctor. That’s when I found out I had blood clots. That all within the span of a month.”


“I was fine until then. I was fine up until I took the vaccine, I was fine. People trying to tell you, ‘No. It’s not the vaccine.’ How do you know? You don’t know. Yes, the vaccine ended my season. One thousand percent.”

 

[Enjoy_the_Soylence]

This made me fucking angry.

Spoiler

https://soundcloud.com/user-6685759...668575910%2Fdr-frank-unblinding-medical-bills

Pfizer shill hems and haws to parents about vaccine-injured child.

 

[NoReturn]

There's an NBA player who got the jab and side effects and was told to keep his mouth shut.

NBA Player Suffers Season Ending Injury with Blod Clots After Vaccine - Told to Keep Quiet - Big League Politics

Mainstream media and NBA hides players season ending vaccine injury.

bigleaguepolitics.com

"Season ending" is a rather optimistic headline, there.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Came across a new study on other mechanisms, besides comorbidities, as to why fat people fare worse from COVID. Long paper, but it can infect fat tissue apparently. They illustrated it can infect it in some experiments, but they also sampled some of the deceased people who died from the disease, and the fat around the heart was all inflamed. Some deathfats must really have insane viral replication if it can access all that fat to infect.

Spoiler: Paper Abstract

The COVID-19 pandemic, caused by the viral pathogen SARS-CoV-2, has taken the lives of millions of individuals around the world. Obesity is associated with adverse COVID-19 outcomes, but the underlying mechanism is unknown. In this report, we demonstrate that human adipose tissue from multiple depots is permissive to SARS-CoV-2 infection and that infection elicits an inflammatory response, including the secretion of known inflammatory mediators of severe COVID-19. We identify two cellular targets of SARS-CoV-2 infection in adipose tissue: mature adipocytes and adipose tissue macrophages. Adipose tissue macrophage infection is largely restricted to a highly inflammatory subpopulation of macrophages, present at baseline, that is further activated in response to SARS-CoV-2 infection. Preadipocytes, while not infected, adopt a proinflammatory phenotype. We further demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 RNA is detectable in adipocytes in COVID-19 autopsy cases and is associated with an inflammatory infiltrate. Collectively, our findings indicate that adipose tissue supports SARS-CoV-2 infection and pathogenic inflammation and may explain the link between obesity and severe COVID-19.

Thought fig. 6 was cool:


Preprint study here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.24.465626v1.full#F6
Archive: https://archive.vn/46Ggt

 

[Super-Chevy454]

"Season ending" is a rather optimistic headline, there.

Indeed, I hope it's not too optimistic.

Edit: The way of saying "optimistic", I hope it's not a bad omen.

 

[SCSI]

This made me fucking angry.

Spoiler

https://soundcloud.com/user-668575910/dr-frank-unblinding-medical-bills?utm_source=clipboard&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=widget&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fuser-668575910%2Fdr-frank-unblinding-medical-bills

Pfizer shill hems and haws to parents about vaccine-injured child.

Archive:

Patrick and Stephanie de Garay’s Phone Call with Pfizer trial Principal Investigator, Dr. Robert W. Frenck Jr., MD, on May 17, 2021

Came across a new study on other mechanisms, besides comorbidities, as to why fat people fare worse from COVID. Long paper, but it can infect fat tissue apparently. They illustrated it can infect it in some experiments, but they also sampled some of the deceased people who died from the disease, and the fat around the heart was all inflamed. Some deathfats must really have insane viral replication if it can access all that fat to infect.
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Preprint study here: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.24.465626v1.full#F6
Archive: https://archive.vn/46Ggt

Paper PDF archive attached.