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I'm going to say it's epic and can't discourse because I want to keep my job ATM. *insert Requiem For A Dream music here*
I hope it's going to be some good news because it's been so long since we have had any. I think I'm going to watch Bladerunner or Robocop so I can see a more optimistic happy future for an hour or two.
 
Sorry, I can't find an English-language source here. If the real French speakers could confirm that I am reading this correctly, I'd be much obliged. It seems that after more than a year and a half, "Les Republicains" (French mainstream center-right party, would be more like moderate Dems in USA) have rediscovered their backbones and are at least SAYING no more blank checks for Macron on this virus passport business. What they claim their goalpost is, is for departments (kind of equivalent to a county) to be able to get rid of the passport once they hit a 75% vaccination rate, but that seems to be 75% total, not 75% of who's eligible for the injections. Will this goalpost move? Don't know. But perhaps this is a glimmer of hope. You all can laugh at me 6 months from now when the goalposts have moved and the government has welded me into my home.

https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/actualite/france/le-sénat-veut-imposer-une-clause-de-revoyure-pour-le-pass-sanitaire/ar-AAQ2sp7?ocid=msedgntp

My personal theory is that the economy is far, far more fucked than TPTB are letting on. People I know who are in the hospitality industry in my city are telling me that their previously very successful establishments are now half-full. The only really nice hotel in town NEVER reopened its restaurant, which previously did reasonably good business, nor did it ever reopen its swanky and somewhat historic cocktail lounge. I think that if the hotels, restaurants, bars, centers of loisirs and all the other places that are banning plague rats
like the assholes at the trampoline park where my daughter is DYING to have her birthday party and i am giving them 200 euros, which they obviously DON'T fear will infect them, so that i can sit in the fucking parking lot like a pariah
were really doing fine, the media would be shouting it from the fucking rooftops. But it's been crickets on that front for several months now.

I really want this goalpost to be a real one, because my department is full to the brim with NPCs and I'd be shocked if 75% of them hadn't had the shot.
 
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Vaccine efficacy is generally reported as a relative risk reduction (RRR). It uses the relative risk (RR)—ie, the ratio of attack rates with and without a vaccine—which is expressed as 1–RR. Ranking by reported efficacy gives relative risk reductions of 95% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 94% for the Moderna–NIH, 91% for the Gamaleya, 67% for the J&J, and 67% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines. However, RRR should be seen against the background risk of being infected and becoming ill with COVID-19, which varies between populations and over time. Although the RRR considers only participants who could benefit from the vaccine, the absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.

ARR is also used to derive an estimate of vaccine effectiveness, which is the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) to prevent one more case of COVID-19 as 1/ARR. NNVs bring a different perspective: 81 for the Moderna–NIH, 78 for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 108 for the Gamaleya, 84 for the J&J, and 119 for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines. The explanation lies in the combination of vaccine efficacy and different background risks of COVID-19 across studies: 0·9% for the Pfizer–BioNTech, 1% for the Gamaleya, 1·4% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·8% for the J&J, and 1·9% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford vaccines.

That just about says it all, doesn't it?
 
I'm going to say it's epic and can't discourse because I want to keep my job ATM. *insert Requiem For A Dream music here*
as a co-worker of yours* ill say it. the vax is a depopulation virus meant to wipe out the jews and faggier whites and people that comply, that way europe and the US will only be for people that truely respect the ideals it was founded on. fortunately 69 and I are high enough on the food chain that we are allowed to save our favorite forum and its members from the genocide, it chose this forum i chose TRS. in 2023 (probably late 2023) we're going to need to start the repopulation program.


*remember; you blew me at the christmas party
 
Two NYC Jab Mandate Related articles:
Article: https://longisland.news12.com/judge-wont-stop-vaccine-mandate-for-nyc-cops-other-workers
Archive: https://archive.md/2Ev57
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Judge won't stop vaccine mandate for NYC police, other workers

A New York judge on Wednesday refused to pause a COVID-19 vaccine mandate set to begin Friday for the city’s municipal workforce, denying a police union’s request for a temporary restraining order.

Judge Lizette Colon said the mandate can take effect as scheduled while also ordering city officials to appear in court Nov. 12 to defend the requirement against a union lawsuit seeking to have it declared illegal.

Police officers, firefighters and most other city workers must show proof they’ve gotten at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine by 5 p.m. Friday. Previously, city workers were able to show proof of a negative test to stay on the job.

Workers who don't comply will be put on unpaid leave starting Monday.

As a result, the city’s fire department said it was preparing to close 20% of its fire companies and have 20% fewer ambulances in service.

Colon, whose court is on Staten Island, issued the ruling hours after hearing arguments from lawyers for the Police Benevolent Association, the city’s largest police union, and the city, which prevailed in arguing the mandate should be implemented without delay.

PBA President Pat Lynch said in a statement that Colon's refusal to halt the mandate “sets the city up for a real crisis" and will “inevitably result in fewer cops available to protect our city.”

As of Tuesday, 73% of police department personnel had gotten at least one vaccine dose, Police Commissioner Dermot Shea told WPIX-TV on Wednesday. More than 60 NYPD employees have died of COVID-19.

The NYPD did not provide specific answers when asked how it will manage personnel levels and public safety if one-quarter of its workforce - including thousands of officers - is put on unpaid leave for noncompliance.

In response to detailed questions, NYPD spokesperson Al Baker provided a one-sentence written statement: “We will be prepared for any changes in personnel due to the mandate.”

The fire department reported a vaccination rate of 68% as of Wednesday. The department, whose EMTs and paramedics were working around the clock in the early days of the pandemic, lost 16 workers to the virus.

A firefighters union said it was holding a rally Thursday outside Mayor Bill de Blasio’s residence to protest the mandate.

Fire Commissioner Daniel Nigro said in a statement Wednesday night that the FDNY “will use all means at our disposal, including mandatory overtime, mutual aid from other EMS providers, and significant changes to the schedules of our members to ensure continuity of operations."

A lawyer for the city said police officers, firefighters and other affected city workers will be given back pay if the judge ultimately sides with the police union, which argued that the vaccine mandate is arbitrary, capricious and an abuse of discretion.

Lawyers for the PBA, which represents about 23,000 current and retired NYPD officers, said in court papers after Wednesday’s hearing that the vaccine mandate forces officers to choose between their careers and their personal beliefs, infringing officers’ “right to bodily integrity.”

The PBA argued that some officers put on leave won’t be able to afford to wait out a legal fight over the mandate and will be forced either to get vaccinated or find new jobs, which it said will mean the loss of seniority and city medical and pension benefits.

Also Wednesday, a federal appeals panel presiding in another mandate-related case seemed to be supportive of arguments that a New York state vaccine mandate for health care workers does not violate their Constitutional rights even though the mandate doesn't provide religious exemptions.

The three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals did not immediately rule, but largely seemed in agreement with oral arguments by a state lawyer. The arguments came after a Utica federal judge ruled that the mandate violated workers’ Constitutional rights.

In an August order, the state required at least a first shot for health care workers at hospitals and nursing homes by Sept. 27, and more recently expanded the requirement to include workers at assisted living homes, hospice care, treatment centers and home health aides.

New York’s deputy solicitor general, Steven Wu, said employers can allow religious exemptions when workers agree not to work directly with patients. Religious exemption requests are as much as 20 to 30 times higher than medical exemption requests in the northern part of the state, Wu said.

Wu also defended the mandate's exemption for medical reasons when the threat to a worker from something like an allergic reaction to a vaccine poses as big a threat as the coronavirus. He said medical exemption requests are generally temporary and affect relatively few workers.

Attorney Christopher Ferrara, arguing for medical workers, said the state had allowed nurses and doctors “to continue doing what they did for 18 months when they were heroes on the front line” before imposing the mandate.

The Christian plaintiffs oppose medical cooperation in abortion as a matter of religious conviction. All of the available vaccines employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development or production, according to court papers, but religious leaders have disagreed over the issue and the Vatican issued a statement last year saying the vaccines were “morally acceptable.”
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Article: https://longisland.news12.com/city-workers-to-rally-at-gracie-mansion-protesting-vaccine-mandate
Archive: https://archive.md/6O98T
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City workers to rally at Gracie Mansion protesting vaccine mandate

City workers are preparing to rally at Gracie Mansion today to protest the looming vaccine mandate for city workers.

The rally comes ahead of tomorrow's deadline for the city workforce to receive at least one shot of the COVID-19 vaccine by 5 p.m. or be placed on unpaid leave until they receive the vaccine.

Unions representing firefighters in the city gathered for a press conference Wednesday, saying the mandate is not only insulting to the men and women of the FDNY, but will also lead to a major shortage of first responders.

The FDNY says that 68% of its members are currently vaccinated. Union members say that means 35,000 members are yet to be vaccinated and are fearing major shortages come Monday.

Sources say there is a potential that 20% of fire companies will be closed, and there will be 20% less ambulances on the road.

Fire Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro says the FDNY will implement mandatory overtime to fill any potential staffing shortages, cancel vacations, return uniformed members in offline positions to the field, and have EMS enact mutual aid from volunteer units and private hospitals.

FDNY-Firefighters Association President Andrew Ansbro says lives will be lost if the city faces a first responder shortage.

"There's fires every day, but there's on average 90 to 100 heart attacks a day," he says. "If those response times climb to 15 minutes, 20 minutes, which is most likely going to happen, a lot of cases, that is a death sentence to someone with a heart attack. I'm assuming that the commissioner is telling the mayor, we got this, I'm telling you, you're wrong."

Mayor Bill de Blasio said during his Wednesday press conference that he expects a surge of city workers to get the vaccine shot on Friday, comparing it to the surge of health care workers and Department of Education workers getting their shots ahead of their respective vaccination deadlines.

"We had this pattern with everyone who works for the Department of Education, which is, by far, our biggest agency - a surge of vaccination right up to the deadline," he says. "And then, some people who didn't get vaccinated by the deadline, but recognize that they're about to be put on unpaid leave, who would then go out and get vaccinated immediately, and then even others who get vaccinated in the days after."

When the mayor was asked about a contingency plan for a potential shortage of first responders, the mayor says the focus will be on shifting assignments to where there is a particular need.

The mayor says there will be resources to account for potential NYPD staffing shortages, including offering overtime and making other adjustments as necessary, and that every agency commissioner is confident they can make the adjustments necessary.

The NYPD's current vaccination rate is 73%, according to the agency.

Police Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch spoke out Wednesday after a New York state supreme court judge denied the police union's request for a temporary restraining order to halt the implementation of the vaccine mandate while its lawsuit to have the mandate declared illegal moves forward.

"The haphazard rollout of this mandate has created chaos in the NYPD. City Hall has given no reason that a vaccine mandate with a weekly testing option is no longer enough to protect police officers and the public," Lynch says. "Instead, police officers are being told to make a possibly life-changing decision in a matter of days to meet a completely arbitrary deadline, while the NYPD's leadership spins its wheels and offers no guidance."

The Department of Correction says 51% of staff have received at least one dose of the vaccine as of Oct. 20.

For the DOC, which has been struggling with attendance and has been on the receiving end of criticism about the conditions of city jails as Rikers recently saw its 13th inmate die this year, is strongly pushing staff to get vaccinated.

Non-uniformed DOC staff and uniformed staff assigned to medical positions must be vaccinated by Friday or be assigned to a non-medical post, while the deadline for uniform employees is later this year to attempt to ease the burden in jails, according to the agency.

Uniform officers have until Dec. 1 to provide proof of vaccination, or be placed on unpaid leave until proving they have received a shot.

Union members including Ansbro say the issue can be fixed if the city puts a testing option back in place, which the mayor has said will not happen.
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Are there any follow-up studies? I see this was published in April 2021 so I'm surprise this was never shown before.
Relative Risk Reduction = what the efficacy would be if you assumed everyone got sick at once. Absolute Risk Reduction = what the efficacy actually is if you include everyone, including those who aren't infected.

Let's say you vaccinated 100,000,000 people with the Moderna vaccine. This may prevent 1,234,567 cases. Since the CFR of COVID-19 in the US is about 1.6%, this means vaccinating 100,000,000 people saves approximately 19,753 lives.

This is what the VAERS data shows for adverse events associated with the vaccines:


It's worse than useless.
 
Relative Risk Reduction = what the efficacy would be if you assumed everyone got sick at once. Absolute Risk Reduction = what the efficacy actually is if you include everyone, including those who aren't infected.

Let's say you vaccinated 100,000,000 people with the Moderna vaccine. This may prevent 1,234,567 cases. Since the CFR of COVID-19 in the US is about 1.6%, this means vaccinating 100,000,000 people saves approximately 19,753 lives.

This is what the VAERS data shows for adverse events associated with the vaccines:


It's worse than useless.
hey if a few hundred thousand have to die to make some karen in a Californian starbucks feel safe that's a small price for everyone else to pay
 
I should add, this is what the CFR of COVID-19 is by age group:

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COVID-19 mortality closely follows the natural mortality curve.

Compare and contrast with what Imperial College London insisted in March of 2020, when Neil Ferguson published this panic piece promoting endless lockdowns:


This is the actual cost-benefit ratio of lockdowns:


Allen highlights that most of the early research on lockdowns only examined their benefits without looking at the costs, and many used faulty models and made assumptions that proved to be wrong.

“Early in the pandemic the Neil Ferguson et al. model appeared to drive many lockdown decisions and was widely covered in the media,” he wrote, referring to Imperial College of London (ICL) professor Neil Ferguson and his March 2020 report, “Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) to reduce COVID-19 mortality and healthcare demand.”

Ferguson predicted widespread death if lockdowns weren’t imposed.

“The Ferguson et al. model was spectacularly wrong; off by factors of 5.88 to 14.71,” Allen wrote regarding Ferguson’s prediction of the number of deaths from COVID.

“Problems with the ICL model were pointed out immediately,” he wrote, such as an overly high transmission rate, an overly high and not age-dependent infection fatality rate, hospital capacity assumed to be fixed and unchangeable, and the assumption that individuals would not change their behaviour in the face of a new virus.


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I'm very worried about how NYC is going to be somehow even shittier than it was last year (which already should've been impossible). I can already see it now. Mayor Bill's mandate means more old-ass boomers in NYC drop dead of heart attacks or whatever because there's fewer ambulances, that boomer's kid/grandkid inherits their money and flees the city because "it's full of crime and homeless people and is too expensive" and then flees to a good state where they vote the same policies as their beloved Mayor Warren Wilhelm Jr. all the while jacking up housing prices.

There's no escape. NYC will pollute the US east of the Mississippi all the while California and the decaying shitholes of Portland and Seattle pollute the west. This virus caused an even worse virus to spread.
 
Am sure this shit is blowing up in these assholes' faces. Bitch, want to know MY address? Tell me yours. Don't want to tell me? I'll fucking find out.




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Took me maybe three minutes. Anyone else can do the same. Feel free to share your thoughts with Jodi.
 
Relative Risk Reduction = what the efficacy would be if you assumed everyone got sick at once. Absolute Risk Reduction = what the efficacy actually is if you include everyone, including those who aren't infected.

Let's say you vaccinated 100,000,000 people with the Moderna vaccine. This may prevent 1,234,567 cases. Since the CFR of COVID-19 in the US is about 1.6%, this means vaccinating 100,000,000 people saves approximately 19,753 lives.

This is what the VAERS data shows for adverse events associated with the vaccines:


It's worse than useless.
Right. Even better the CFR for Delta Covid is a fraction of Wuhan or Alpha Covid, currently at 0.2-0.5% in the unvaxxed. The tendency for respiratory viruses to become less virulent over time should have been factored when considering EUA's for leaky vaccines.

Then there's the issue of how they calculated the relative risk reduction. We now know the vaccines show rapidly declining efficacy over time, which the pharma companies were aware of before the trials. But in considering the EUA efficacy was considered constant. If you have a loaded rifle this would demonstrate a high efficacy in hunting deer as long as the rifle is loaded, when it's emptied not so much. The short time interval of the trials made the efficacy data in prevention of infection unreliable if not outright useless.

Lets be clear, the vaccines weren't approved for emergency use due to their supposed attributes in reducing severe illness, they were approved on the basis that they prevented transmission and infection. They weren't sold to the public as preventative treatments they were sold as vaccines. Once the majority were injected they went through an obvious re-branding.
This talk of third shot plus booster will be very confusing for normies as they were told they only needed two.
Some immunocompromised people can receive a 4th covid shot, CDC says.
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Effectively there's no difference between boosters and third doses, they're the same thing. The Israeli data shows collapsing antibody titres in all age groups. The messaging around the immunocompromised and the old requiring 'third doses' 28 days after the second is, in my opinion, to normalise the idea that a 3 dose program will be needed if/when a new variant emerges that completely escapes the current spike antibody treatments. We saw the same thing with Delta Covid, a strain that emerged in India prior to a single vaccine going into any arms. It's different from the other strains, it's vaccine resistant so the vaccines don't work as well against it. A change to the narrative in explaining why the vaccines don't work as vaccines. I fully expect the 6 month window for the booster dose, which is based on the Israeli data, to be shortened considerably in the coming months, especially if the issue with the lack of b-cell recall persists or worsens after the booster jabs. The alternative is to see ever larger outbreaks in highly vaccinated populations which would be intolerable given the hell politicians have put us through.
 
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