Baked Alaska / Tim Treadstone / Tim Gionet / Anthime Joseph Gionet - White rapper, alt-right "activist", ex-Buzzfeed contributor; got arrested at the March for Trump, and a federal snitch

Kermit Jizz said:
This prosecutor is kind of exceptional. All of this character undermining is spicy, but it's really not the hill to die on. The footage is pretty shut and close, don't piss of the judge before you get there.
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I agree the defense is actually better, but the prosecution has a better case in general. Still a lot of what the case is about is not just the act of macing a bouncer but why he did it. If he believed, even unreasonably, he was defending himself, he's still guilty but he's less reprehensible than if he did mace the guy just maliciously for shits and giggles and shekels.

I mean you still have a video where he's off the property and comes back just to mace the guy, so I don't think his testimony is very credible. So yeah, defense lawyer is definitely better, although I think the prosecution should jack up the aggression, as this guy is pretty low energy.
 
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Retribution said:
I know that, but he shouldn't be doing it. Not a good sign.
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Wrong, a judge can interrupt to ask for clarifications, even raise an objection on the court's own volition, interrupt examination or cross examination, or even summarily rule on the case from the bench, although that is fairly rare.

If you're interrupted by a judge for a clarification of your argument and you don't, you're going to lose.

Some judges are very interlocutory. This guy isn't.
 
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AnOminous said:
Wrong, a judge can interrupt to ask for clarifications, even raise an objection on the court's own volition, interrupt examination or cross examination, or even summarily rule on the case from the bench, although that is fairly rare.

If you're interrupted by a judge for a clarification of your argument and you don't, you're going to lose.
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Yes, on examination. They're supposed to be able to say whatever they want during closing argument. It's not evidence. There's no jury. The judge should stfu and listen. But yeah, the judge can do whatever he wants and there's nothing they can do about it. At least he's interrupting both sides.
 
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GreeneCoDeputy said:
The defense attorney is really trying his best to spin Baked's shit into gold here. It falls flat in the face of the video but he's giving it his best shot.
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He's really going all out on this. He might even knock out one or more of these counts. He's mostly going toward intent, since he can't win on the facts of the act that happened.

I hope they throw the book at him. And I mean as weak and low energy as the prosecution has been, he maces the guy and then goes back and does it again for no reason.

And as far as shit bouncers get away with every day, giving a disruptive trespasser a mild bum's rush to help them leave is potatoes.
Retribution said:
Yes, on examination. They're supposed to be able to say whatever they want during closing argument. It's not evidence. There's no jury. The judge should stfu and listen. But yeah, the judge can do whatever he wants and there's nothing they can do about it. At least he's interrupting both sides.
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There's not really a legal basis for that. There are all kinds of things that can be done improperly during a closing argument, such as introducing arguments based on evidence not in the record, making absolutely outrageous arguments, or in this case just making slightly unclear arguments.

It's not like he's badgering the lawyer, who is answering the completely normal conduct of the judge. Sometimes if a judge does this, the lawyer will ask for added time, and they usually get it. It's not being able to make the argument at all that would be an issue, or abusing a lawyer in a way that prejudices the case.

Guilty, guilty, guilty.
 
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